Why do people insist on putting Alan Wake and ME2 up there with GOW3 and U2?

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#1 mrarmyman48
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Why do people insist on putting games like Mass Effect 2 and Alan Wake up there with the likes of God of War 3, Uncharted 2, and Killzone 2? lol, if you have comcast digital cable, go to On Demand, go to G4TV, and watch the E3 videos of GOW3 and U2, then watch Alan Wake, and ME2, it literally looks as if you've descended a generation, especially ME2. if you don't believe me, go watch the videos on your TV Alan wake is starting to get way over hyped. people are starting to cling to the stigma Alan Wake got years ago, but with recent footage, the gameplay looks laughably booring, and the graphics are nothing compared to some of the PS3's best looking games. Lemmings love throwing around the word "Generic" very loosely at every title that comes there way, but just look at Alan Wake lol, that game REEKS of generic. it just looks so average. Its not even about PS3 being "the more powerful machine", its just that factually the 360 has no games that compare to Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, or GOW3, and lemmings are just so desperate for the 360 to have a game in the running for best graphics just to compete with cows on here. It is factual that the 360 doesnt have many high profile upcoming exclusives, and lemmings are just clinging to every one, even going as far as to call Halo: Reach graphics king. im just saying, GOW3 is an automatic AAA title and judging by Uncharted 2s critical acclaim so far, im pretty sure we can agree it is too, but alan wake? come on lemmings, I love the 360, hell im a cow and im still gonna get a 360 for of Splinter Cell: Conviction, and enjoy many 360 exclusives, but i just hate seeing people cling to the game just for the sake of saying "We have one too!". Not turning this into a 360 vs PS3 games catalog debate, but just stop with the unnecesarry hype already, your just setting yourself up for dissapointment. As for Mass Effect 2, I dont know anything about it, apperantly it is decently acclaimed, but stop hyping it for its graphics, GOW3 and U2 actually deserve their graphics hype. you are free to hype ME2 as AAA, as the first ones shown it can achieve it, but right now alan wake is looking like nothing more than an AA title. Discuss
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#2 bronxxbombers
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Oh and U2 is overhyped? They are all at the same level graphicaly for the most part. I think the mojority of SWs agree. U2 may be the best looking, but games such as SC:C are right behind, Not sure about Alan wake though, could be better or about the same.
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#3 Alpha-Male22
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Graphically I see you can be right about ME2, but Alan Wake is looking great.


Haven't seen too much of ME2.

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U2 is the only decent looking game GoW3 is still just a simple hack n slash that looks pretty. No one cares about KZ2 anymore and even more so with COD:MW2 coming out.

Alan Wake looks neat and is worth a rent, and ME2 will be good I guess not in to those types of games and never played the first one by the people I know that did play it really liked it.

Why did you leave out Halo:ODST it's going to be better than U2, and KZ2

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Why do people insist on putting games like Mass Effect 2 and Alan Wake up there with the likes of God of War 3, Uncharted 2, and Killzone 2? lol, if you have comcast digital cable, go to On Demand, go to G4TV, and watch the E3 videos of GOW3 and U2, then watch Alan Wake, and ME2, it literally looks as if you've descended a generation, especially ME2. if you don't believe me, go watch the videos on your TV Alan wake is starting to get way over hyped. people are starting to cling to the stigma Alan Wake got years ago, but with recent footage, the gameplay looks laughably booring, and the graphics are nothing compared to some of the PS3's best looking games. Lemmings love throwing around the word "Generic" very loosely at every title that comes there way, but just look at Alan Wake lol, that game REEKS of generic. it just looks so average. Its not even about PS3 being "the more powerful machine", its just that factually the 360 has no games that compare to Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, or GOW3, and lemmings are just so desperate for the 360 to have a game in the running for best graphics just to compete with cows on here. It is factual that the 360 doesnt have many high profile upcoming exclusives, and lemmings are just clinging to every one, even going as far as to call Halo: Reach graphics king. im just saying, GOW3 is an automatic AAA title and judging by Uncharted 2s critical acclaim so far, im pretty sure we can agree it is too, but alan wake? come on lemmings, I love the 360, hell im a cow and im still gonna get a 360 for of Splinter Cell: Conviction, and enjoy many 360 exclusives, but i just hate seeing people cling to the game just for the sake of saying "We have one too!". Not turning this into a 360 vs PS3 games catalog debate, but just stop with the unnecesarry hype already, your just setting yourself up for dissapointment. As for Mass Effect 2, I dont know anything about it, apperantly it is decently acclaimed, but stop hyping it for its graphics, GOW3 and U2 actually deserve their graphics hype. you are free to hype ME2 as AAA, as the first ones shown it can achieve it, but right now alan wake is looking like nothing more than an AA title. Discussmrarmyman48

I'm not entirely sure if this is a thread about graphics or the quality of the games. Certainly some games can be AAA titles and not the greatest at graphics.

Graphically, so far I haven't seen anything on Mass Effect 2 or Alan Wake that make them look as good as or better than Uncharted 2 or Killzone 2.

Overall, I expect Mass Effect 2 to be AAA and I expect Splinter Cell Conviction to be amazing as well. On the overall issue of what to think of Alan Wake I'm not sure what to expect ATM.

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[QUOTE="xxyetixx"]

U2 is the only decent looking game GoW3 is still just a simple hack n slash that looks pretty. No one cares about KZ2 anymore and even more so with COD:MW2 coming out.

Alan Wake looks neat and is worth a rent, and ME2 will be good I guess not in to those types of games and never played the first one by the people I know that did play it really liked it.

Why did you leave out Halo:ODST it's going to be better than U2, and KZ2

Halo ODST better then u2 and KZ2? Your gonna get slaughtered. Maybe Reach, but not ODST. I mean ODST is a purchase for me, but only because i havent bought Halo 3. Graphicly it wont even be close. And this is coming from a lemming.
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U2 is the only decent looking game GoW3 is still just a simple hack n slash that looks pretty. No one cares about KZ2 anymore and even more so with COD:MW2 coming out.

Alan Wake looks neat and is worth a rent, and ME2 will be good I guess not in to those types of games and never played the first one by the people I know that did play it really liked it.

Why did you leave out Halo:ODST it's going to be better than U2, and KZ2

xxyetixx
How does no one care about Killzone? People play it daily and it's a great game. Also, this is another graphics thread to my knowledge, otherwise the TC would have been eaten alive if he was talking about U2 and GOW3 being the better games.
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Mass Effect 2 is not hyped for graphics at all, though it looks great non-the-less. Alan Wake, ever since the screens back in 2005 which looked amazing has always had some hype graphically.
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Actually i think Alan Wake is looking great. Uncharted2 looks great aswell. Both God of War 3 and Mass Effect 2 will probably be 2 of the best games next year, and it has nothing to do with their graphics.

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U2 is the only decent looking game GoW3 is still just a simple hack n slash that looks pretty. No one cares about KZ2 anymore and even more so with COD:MW2 coming out.

Alan Wake looks neat and is worth a rent, and ME2 will be good I guess not in to those types of games and never played the first one by the people I know that did play it really liked it.

Why did you leave out Halo:ODST it's going to be better than U2, and KZ2

xxyetixx

I haven't seen anything on Halo ODST that really excites me yet. What has you excited about it? Not trying to flame or say it will suck, just wondering where the hype is coming from. Is it just that it's got the Halo name or is there something more to it?

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And I have to add, GoW 3 doesnt look all that great, no where near the level of U2.
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Oh and U2 is overhyped? They are all at the same level graphicaly for the most part. I think the mojority of SWs agree. U2 may be the best looking, but games such as SC:C are right behind, Not sure about Alan wake though, could be better or about the same.bronxxbombers
U2 is getting all its hype from game critics and websites, Alan wake and mass effect are getting their graphics hype from lemmings. while mass effect may actually warrant some of its critical hype, the graphics are terribly overrated. Alan wake has done absolutely nothing to warrant the insane amount of hype its getting, the graphics are average, and the gameplay looks laughably booring (running around with a flashlight, woopee!). The game REEKS of generic in every area from gameplay, to graphics, to art direction, especially for a game thats been in development as long as it has. hell there are 360 games that look better, including SC:C like i mentioned. I think people are just holding onto the stigma Alan Wake got years ago. also im fully aware that graphics dont make a game, but it has average looking gameplay as well. GOW3 and U2 actually have excellent graphics and gameplay, so they deserve their hype.
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ME2, U2 wii is better the both 2!!!! 'nuff said

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Because they'll be better games with better narrative. Nuff said.

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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]Oh and U2 is overhyped? They are all at the same level graphicaly for the most part. I think the mojority of SWs agree. U2 may be the best looking, but games such as SC:C are right behind, Not sure about Alan wake though, could be better or about the same.mrarmyman48
U2 is getting all its hype from game critics and websites, Alan wake and mass effect are getting their graphics hype from lemmings. while mass effect may actually warrant some of its critical hype, the graphics are terribly overrated. Alan wake has done absolutely nothing to warrant the insane amount of hype its getting, the graphics are average, and the gameplay looks laughably booring (running around with a flashlight, woopee!). The game REEKS of generic in every area from gameplay, to graphics, to art direction, especially for a game thats been in development as long as it has. hell there are 360 games that look better, including SC:C like i mentioned. I think people are just holding onto the stigma Alan Wake got years ago. also im fully aware that graphics dont make a game, but it has average looking gameplay as well. GOW3 and U2 actually have excellent graphics and gameplay, so they deserve their hype.

Okay, First off, Alan wake is anything but generic. How many games are like Alan Wake? None. And, from the gameplay vids we'vet looks very, very nice graphicly. And to come back from that, you say Alan Wake looks boring, when GoW, you just run around, button mashing, and gorely decapacitating people. And, GoW, really, does not look to be nearly at the same level graphicaly as U2 and Alan Wake. Mass Effect isnt really being hyped for its graphics, not sure where that one came from.
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I'm not talking about you specifically (so you can't mod me!!!!) but I think people who think the hype around ME2 is for it's graphics are total and complete clowns. The elements that ME2 is hyped for will blow the identical elements in GOW3 and U2 (I'd ague Alan Wake as well) totally out of the water.

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Why do people insist on putting games like Mass Effect 2 and Alan Wake up there with the likes of God of War 3, Uncharted 2, and Killzone 2? lol, if you have comcast digital cable, go to On Demand, go to G4TV, and watch the E3 videos of GOW3 and U2, then watch Alan Wake, and ME2, it literally looks as if you've descended a generation, especially ME2. if you don't believe me, go watch the videos on your TV Alan wake is starting to get way over hyped. people are starting to cling to the stigma Alan Wake got years ago, but with recent footage, the gameplay looks laughably booring, and the graphics are nothing compared to some of the PS3's best looking games. Lemmings love throwing around the word "Generic" very loosely at every title that comes there way, but just look at Alan Wake lol, that game REEKS of generic. it just looks so average. Its not even about PS3 being "the more powerful machine", its just that factually the 360 has no games that compare to Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, or GOW3, and lemmings are just so desperate for the 360 to have a game in the running for best graphics just to compete with cows on here. It is factual that the 360 doesnt have many high profile upcoming exclusives, and lemmings are just clinging to every one, even going as far as to call Halo: Reach graphics king. im just saying, GOW3 is an automatic AAA title and judging by Uncharted 2s critical acclaim so far, im pretty sure we can agree it is too, but alan wake? come on lemmings, I love the 360, hell im a cow and im still gonna get a 360 for of Splinter Cell: Conviction, and enjoy many 360 exclusives, but i just hate seeing people cling to the game just for the sake of saying "We have one too!". Not turning this into a 360 vs PS3 games catalog debate, but just stop with the unnecesarry hype already, your just setting yourself up for dissapointment. As for Mass Effect 2, I dont know anything about it, apperantly it is decently acclaimed, but stop hyping it for its graphics, GOW3 and U2 actually deserve their graphics hype. you are free to hype ME2 as AAA, as the first ones shown it can achieve it, but right now alan wake is looking like nothing more than an AA title. Discussmrarmyman48

I have watched videos for both uncharted 2 and splinter cell convictions back to back and i hate to break it to you but their practically on the same level, but how both game actually play interests me more.

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[QUOTE="mrarmyman48"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]Oh and U2 is overhyped? They are all at the same level graphicaly for the most part. I think the mojority of SWs agree. U2 may be the best looking, but games such as SC:C are right behind, Not sure about Alan wake though, could be better or about the same.bronxxbombers
U2 is getting all its hype from game critics and websites, Alan wake and mass effect are getting their graphics hype from lemmings. while mass effect may actually warrant some of its critical hype, the graphics are terribly overrated. Alan wake has done absolutely nothing to warrant the insane amount of hype its getting, the graphics are average, and the gameplay looks laughably booring (running around with a flashlight, woopee!). The game REEKS of generic in every area from gameplay, to graphics, to art direction, especially for a game thats been in development as long as it has. hell there are 360 games that look better, including SC:C like i mentioned. I think people are just holding onto the stigma Alan Wake got years ago. also im fully aware that graphics dont make a game, but it has average looking gameplay as well. GOW3 and U2 actually have excellent graphics and gameplay, so they deserve their hype.

Okay, First off, Alan wake is anything but generic. How many games are like Alan Wake? None. And, from the gameplay vids we'vet looks very, very nice graphicly. And to come back from that, you say Alan Wake looks boring, when GoW, you just run around, button mashing, and gorely decapacitating people. And, GoW, really, does not look to be nearly at the same level graphicaly as U2 and Alan Wake. Mass Effect isnt really being hyped for its graphics, not sure where that one came from.

GOW3 is boring yet 3 games have been released in the series so far, each entry averaging over 91% on gamerankings (including the psp game, which was a "watered down rehash of the first 2" still managed to snag AAA)???. Having played GOW, many call it the best game on ps2. onto Alan Wake, it looks generic because its art direction looks just like any other 360 game. nothing about it stands out. generic looking character, generic looking setting. and like I said, go look at the videos on your tv,(not your computer) of Alan Wake, and GOW3, and it looks almost like a generational difference (Much more so with Mass Effect 2)
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Question:Why do people insist on putting Alan Wake and ME2 up there with GOW3 and U2?

Answer: Because they will probably turn out to be just as good.

And I can say with some certainty that I will enjoy all of them more than GOW 3.

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[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]

I'm not talking about you specifically (so you can't mod me!!!!) but I think people who think the hype around ME2 is for it's graphics are total and complete clowns.

The elements that ME2 is hyped for will blow the identical elements in GOW3 and U2 (I'd ague Alan Wake as well) totally out of the water.

Yeah, you shouldn't challenge the Godking Bioware. Hell, if we are talking about story, Remedy and Bioware are gods. And I am not saying that because ME2 and Alan Wake are not on the PS3, everyone that has been gaming since atleast last gen should know they know how to make great stories.
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="mrarmyman48"] U2 is getting all its hype from game critics and websites, Alan wake and mass effect are getting their graphics hype from lemmings. while mass effect may actually warrant some of its critical hype, the graphics are terribly overrated. Alan wake has done absolutely nothing to warrant the insane amount of hype its getting, the graphics are average, and the gameplay looks laughably booring (running around with a flashlight, woopee!). The game REEKS of generic in every area from gameplay, to graphics, to art direction, especially for a game thats been in development as long as it has. hell there are 360 games that look better, including SC:C like i mentioned. I think people are just holding onto the stigma Alan Wake got years ago. also im fully aware that graphics dont make a game, but it has average looking gameplay as well. GOW3 and U2 actually have excellent graphics and gameplay, so they deserve their hype. mrarmyman48
Okay, First off, Alan wake is anything but generic. How many games are like Alan Wake? None. And, from the gameplay vids we'vet looks very, very nice graphicly. And to come back from that, you say Alan Wake looks boring, when GoW, you just run around, button mashing, and gorely decapacitating people. And, GoW, really, does not look to be nearly at the same level graphicaly as U2 and Alan Wake. Mass Effect isnt really being hyped for its graphics, not sure where that one came from.

GOW3 is boring yet 3 games have been released in the series so far, each entry averaging over 91% on gamerankings (including the psp game, which was a "watered down rehash of the first 2" still managed to snag AAA). Having played GOW, many call it the best game on ps2. onto Alan Wake, it looks generic because its art direction looks just like any other 360 game. nothing about it stands out. generic looking character, generic looking setting. and like I said, go look at the videos on your tv,(not your computer) of Alan Wake, and GOW3, and it looks almost like a generational difference (Much more so with Mass Effect 2)

Alan Wake is not generic! The gameplay and plot are very different then anything we've seen before. The point I was making with GoW, is that calling Alan Wake boring is like calling GoW boring. I mean, its not like hteres not a ton of games very similar to GoW.
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Actually i think Alan Wake is looking great. Uncharted2 looks great aswell. Both God of War 3 and Mass Effect 2 will probably be 2 of the best games next year, and it has nothing to do with their graphics.

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Question:Why do people insist on putting Alan Wake and ME2 up there with GOW3 and U2?

Answer: Because they will probably turn out to be just as good.

And I can say with some certainty that I will enjoy all of them more than GOW 3.

heretrix
and i can say with some certainty that almost all of the game critics and websites will dissagree with you
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[QUOTE="mrarmyman48"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Question:Why do people insist on putting Alan Wake and ME2 up there with GOW3 and U2?

Answer: Because they will probably turn out to be just as good.

And I can say with some certainty that I will enjoy all of them more than GOW 3.

and i can say with some certainty that almost all of the game critics and websites will dissagree with you

You doubt Bioware and Remedy, boy?
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Um, who cares? I think we can all agree that the games will probably turn out great (especially Mass Effect 2 :P ), and though certain titles may look marginally better than others, its really not worth arguing over.

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Mass Effect looks great graphically. Heck, the first Mass Effect is still better than most games graphically.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Question:Why do people insist on putting Alan Wake and ME2 up there with GOW3 and U2?

Answer: Because they will probably turn out to be just as good.

And I can say with some certainty that I will enjoy all of them more than GOW 3.

mrarmyman48

and i can say with some certainty that almost all of the game critics and websites will dissagree with you

Lol. I don't care what they think.

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[QUOTE="mrarmyman48"] and i can say with some certainty that almost all of the game critics and websites will dissagree with youSparkyProtocol
You doubt Bioware and Remedy, boy?

well, seeing that all three of the current iterations of GOW (including the psp game) have consistently outscored ME1 on both platforms its been on, it wouldn't exactly be that far of a stretch..............
Alan Wake is not generic! The gameplay and plot are very different then anything we've seen before. The point I was making with GoW, is that calling Alan Wake boring is like calling GoW boring. I mean, its not like hteres not a ton of games very similar to GoW.bronxxbombers
GOW has carved a deep enough niche in the gaming market as an iconic character. what other game character do you know of who has friggin swords chained to his arms that glow orange when he throws them? the gameplay has differentiated itself enough from all the other games in its genre. a guy with a flashlight isnt exactly that original
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[QUOTE="mrarmyman48"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Question:Why do people insist on putting Alan Wake and ME2 up there with GOW3 and U2?

Answer: Because they will probably turn out to be just as good.

And I can say with some certainty that I will enjoy all of them more than GOW 3.

heretrix

and i can say with some certainty that almost all of the game critics and websites will dissagree with you

Lol. I don't care what they think.

thats cool, your entitled to your opinion, just know that the majority dissagrees with you. hell i think LBP is boring as hell and just from playing the demo in the stores id rate it a 5.5. doesnt stop it from being the 2nd highest rated exclusive this gen on gamerankings now does it?
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]Oh and U2 is overhyped? They are all at the same level graphicaly for the most part. I think the mojority of SWs agree. U2 may be the best looking, but games such as SC:C are right behind, Not sure about Alan wake though, could be better or about the same.mrarmyman48
U2 is getting all its hype from game critics and websites, Alan wake and mass effect are getting their graphics hype from lemmings. while mass effect may actually warrant some of its critical hype, the graphics are terribly overrated. Alan wake has done absolutely nothing to warrant the insane amount of hype its getting, the graphics are average, and the gameplay looks laughably booring (running around with a flashlight, woopee!). The game REEKS of generic in every area from gameplay, to graphics, to art direction, especially for a game thats been in development as long as it has. hell there are 360 games that look better, including SC:C like i mentioned. I think people are just holding onto the stigma Alan Wake got years ago. also im fully aware that graphics dont make a game, but it has average looking gameplay as well. GOW3 and U2 actually have excellent graphics and gameplay, so they deserve their hype.

Its clear that when you mention gameplay in a game that has not even come out yet you have no idea what you are talking about, also based on your logic uncharted 2 also reeks of generic gameplay and art direction. A third person shooter, what game does that remind me of? oh yeah gears of war, but then there is the stealth gameplay, hmmmm oh wait splinter cell and the metal gear series.The art direction is simply an ingame representation of an actual real life location, thats almost every GTA game to ever come out.

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#32 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="mrarmyman48"] and i can say with some certainty that almost all of the game critics and websites will dissagree with youmrarmyman48

Lol. I don't care what they think.

thats cool, your entitled to your opinion, just know that the majority dissagrees with you. hell i think LBP is boring as hell and just from playing the demo in the stores id rate it a 5.5. doesnt stop it from being the 2nd highest rated exclusive this gen on gamerankings now does it?

I would never judge a game just from a demo and then brag about how other games are better from review scores.

I said I would enjoy all those other games more than GOW3, I don't need review scores or anyone else to validate that.

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#33 LoseEagles1245
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People keep bashing ME2's graphics but after replaying ME and seeing videos of ME2, I have to say its my personal console graphics king. Maybe U2 and K2 look better. But its not by much. The character models and faces in ME and ME2 are simply amazing. I expect ME2 to win the 2010 GOTY.
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[QUOTE="mrarmyman48"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]Oh and U2 is overhyped? They are all at the same level graphicaly for the most part. I think the mojority of SWs agree. U2 may be the best looking, but games such as SC:C are right behind, Not sure about Alan wake though, could be better or about the same.bronxxbombers
U2 is getting all its hype from game critics and websites, Alan wake and mass effect are getting their graphics hype from lemmings. while mass effect may actually warrant some of its critical hype, the graphics are terribly overrated. Alan wake has done absolutely nothing to warrant the insane amount of hype its getting, the graphics are average, and the gameplay looks laughably booring (running around with a flashlight, woopee!). The game REEKS of generic in every area from gameplay, to graphics, to art direction, especially for a game thats been in development as long as it has. hell there are 360 games that look better, including SC:C like i mentioned. I think people are just holding onto the stigma Alan Wake got years ago. also im fully aware that graphics dont make a game, but it has average looking gameplay as well. GOW3 and U2 actually have excellent graphics and gameplay, so they deserve their hype.

Okay, First off, Alan wake is anything but generic. How many games are like Alan Wake? None. And, from the gameplay vids we'vet looks very, very nice graphicly. And to come back from that, you say Alan Wake looks boring, when GoW, you just run around, button mashing, and gorely decapacitating people. And, GoW, really, does not look to be nearly at the same level graphicaly as U2 and Alan Wake. Mass Effect isnt really being hyped for its graphics, not sure where that one came from.

You must not be a fluid gamer! I can give you a game title that has game play just like alan wake! Remember Lugi's Manshion for GameCube? Well you run around with a flash light to spot hidden enemies and then suck them up with a vaccum. Alan wake you run around with a flash light and you shoot enemies, Ummm yeah owned!
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[QUOTE="mrarmyman48"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]Oh and U2 is overhyped? They are all at the same level graphicaly for the most part. I think the mojority of SWs agree. U2 may be the best looking, but games such as SC:C are right behind, Not sure about Alan wake though, could be better or about the same.solid20

U2 is getting all its hype from game critics and websites, Alan wake and mass effect are getting their graphics hype from lemmings. while mass effect may actually warrant some of its critical hype, the graphics are terribly overrated. Alan wake has done absolutely nothing to warrant the insane amount of hype its getting, the graphics are average, and the gameplay looks laughably booring (running around with a flashlight, woopee!). The game REEKS of generic in every area from gameplay, to graphics, to art direction, especially for a game thats been in development as long as it has. hell there are 360 games that look better, including SC:C like i mentioned. I think people are just holding onto the stigma Alan Wake got years ago. also im fully aware that graphics dont make a game, but it has average looking gameplay as well. GOW3 and U2 actually have excellent graphics and gameplay, so they deserve their hype.

Its clear that when you mention gameplay in a game that has not even come out yet you have no idea what you are talking about, also based on your logic uncharted 2 also reeks of generic gameplay and art direction. A third person shooter, what game does that remind me of? oh yeah gears of war, but then there is the stealth gameplay, hmmmm oh wait splinter cell and the metal gear series.The art direction is simply an ingame representation of an actual real life location, thats almost every GTA game to ever come out.

[quote="Awards uncharted 2 has recieved from gaming websites so far"] GAME CRITICS AWARDS: Best of Show Best Console Game Best Action / Adventure Game IGN: Best Action Game - PS3 Best Graphics Technology - PS3 Best Multiplayer Experience - PS3 Achievement for Technology Excellence - PS3 PlayStation 3 Game of Show Best Graphics Technology - Overall GAMESPOT: Best Graphics Best PS3 Game 1UP.COM: Best of Show Best of E3 PS3 Game X-PLAY: Game of Show Best PlayStation 3 Game GAMESPY: PS3 Game of Show GAMEPRO: Gold Medal GAMETRAILERS: Best Graphics Best Third-Person Shooter YAHOO! GAMES: Best of E3 2009 CRISPY GAMER: Best PlayStation 3 Game GAMES RADAR: Most Surprisingly Awesome Demo 411 MANIA: Best Action Game / Best PS3 Game GO ONLINE GAMES: Best PS3 Title PLATFORM NATION: Game of Show Best Console Game Best Action / Adventure Game

apperantly all the reviewers love uncharteds gameplay........as far as GOW3, we've played GOW,(or at least I have) and we know how the game plays. like ive said, according to all the sites and critics both GOW3 and U2 are deserving of their praise
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Alright, TC please wake up. GoW3 graphically is not that impressive. It's just GoW2 with fresh coat. I am a huge GoW fan, and still can't wait for this game but graphically it was nothing mind blowing. ME and ME2 have the most intense realistic character facial animations I've ever seen. U2 looks great, the first is my favorite PS3 title, but let's give it some breathing room here. Everyone is smothering it. And none of these has to be cutting edge graphically. Can people here really not play a game unless it's pushing the bar graphically? I'm loving Hitman, Hitman 2, Deus EX, No More Heroes, Ico, among other games even though there are better graphics out right now.
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Meh, I think ME2 definitely can compete with GoW3 and U2. I have no clue about Alan Wake, though.
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="mrarmyman48"] You doubt Bioware and Remedy, boy?mrarmyman48
well, seeing that all three of the current iterations of GOW (including the psp game) have consistently outscored ME1 on both platforms its been on, it wouldn't exactly be that far of a stretch..............
Alan Wake is not generic! The gameplay and plot are very different then anything we've seen before. The point I was making with GoW, is that calling Alan Wake boring is like calling GoW boring. I mean, its not like hteres not a ton of games very similar to GoW.bronxxbombers
GOW has carved a deep enough niche in the gaming market as an iconic character. what other game character do you know of who has friggin swords chained to his arms that glow orange when he throws them? the gameplay has differentiated itself enough from all the other games in its genre. a guy with a flashlight isnt exactly that original

Okay. Last time buddy. NAME A GAME THTAS JUST LIKE ALAN WAKE! Then you can say its not original. But alas, there are none, and Alan wake gets an A for originality. Games like GoW you say? Prince of Persia, Heavenly Sword, Ghost Rider, The Darksiders(i think thats the title) DMC, Ninja gaiden, must i go on even more?
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[QUOTE="mrarmyman48"][QUOTE="heretrix"]Lol. I don't care what they think.

heretrix

thats cool, your entitled to your opinion, just know that the majority dissagrees with you. hell i think LBP is boring as hell and just from playing the demo in the stores id rate it a 5.5. doesnt stop it from being the 2nd highest rated exclusive this gen on gamerankings now does it?

I would never judge a game just from a demo and then brag about how other games are better from review scores.

I said I would enjoy all those other games more than GOW3, I don't need review scores or anyone else to validate that.

im not judging the game. i was proving a point that im allowed to have my opinion on a game (as are you) but that I was in the vast minority (as are you). its fine that you dont need a review score to validate your enjoyment of the game, but your just in the minority. the consensus is that GOW is better, and your opinion doesnt change that
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Answer: Alan Wake looks just as graphically impressive as U2 and ME:2 is awesome. Better Question: Why did you bother to make this thread?
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="mrarmyman48"] thats cool, your entitled to your opinion, just know that the majority dissagrees with you. hell i think LBP is boring as hell and just from playing the demo in the stores id rate it a 5.5. doesnt stop it from being the 2nd highest rated exclusive this gen on gamerankings now does it?mrarmyman48

I would never judge a game just from a demo and then brag about how other games are better from review scores.

I said I would enjoy all those other games more than GOW3, I don't need review scores or anyone else to validate that.

im not judging the game. i was proving a point that im allowed to have my opinion on a game (as are you) but that I was in the vast minority (as are you). its fine that you dont need a review score to validate your enjoyment of the game, but your just in the minority. the consensus is that GOW is better, and your opinion doesnt change that

That is an appeal to popular opinion fallacy.

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I've done GOW (Gow1 and Gow2), and while i enjoyed them, i'm tired of hack and slash button pushing games.
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apperantly all the reviewers love uncharteds gameplay........as far as GOW3, we've played GOW,(or at least I have) and we know how the game plays. like ive said, according to all the sites and critics both GOW3 and U2 are deserving of their praisemrarmyman48
Why are you so hung up on reviews?

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[QUOTE="solid20"]

[QUOTE="mrarmyman48"] U2 is getting all its hype from game critics and websites, Alan wake and mass effect are getting their graphics hype from lemmings. while mass effect may actually warrant some of its critical hype, the graphics are terribly overrated. Alan wake has done absolutely nothing to warrant the insane amount of hype its getting, the graphics are average, and the gameplay looks laughably booring (running around with a flashlight, woopee!). The game REEKS of generic in every area from gameplay, to graphics, to art direction, especially for a game thats been in development as long as it has. hell there are 360 games that look better, including SC:C like i mentioned. I think people are just holding onto the stigma Alan Wake got years ago. also im fully aware that graphics dont make a game, but it has average looking gameplay as well. GOW3 and U2 actually have excellent graphics and gameplay, so they deserve their hype. mrarmyman48

Its clear that when you mention gameplay in a game that has not even come out yet you have no idea what you are talking about, also based on your logic uncharted 2 also reeks of generic gameplay and art direction. A third person shooter, what game does that remind me of? oh yeah gears of war, but then there is the stealth gameplay, hmmmm oh wait splinter cell and the metal gear series.The art direction is simply an ingame representation of an actual real life location, thats almost every GTA game to ever come out.

GAME CRITICS AWARDS: Best of Show Best Console Game Best Action / Adventure Game IGN: Best Action Game - PS3 Best Graphics Technology - PS3 Best Multiplayer Experience - PS3 Achievement for Technology Excellence - PS3 PlayStation 3 Game of Show Best Graphics Technology - Overall GAMESPOT: Best Graphics Best PS3 Game 1UP.COM: Best of Show Best of E3 PS3 Game X-PLAY: Game of Show Best PlayStation 3 Game GAMESPY: PS3 Game of Show GAMEPRO: Gold Medal GAMETRAILERS: Best Graphics Best Third-Person Shooter YAHOO! GAMES: Best of E3 2009 CRISPY GAMER: Best PlayStation 3 Game GAMES RADAR: Most Surprisingly Awesome Demo 411 MANIA: Best Action Game / Best PS3 Game GO ONLINE GAMES: Best PS3 Title PLATFORM NATION: Game of Show Best Console Game Best Action / Adventure GameAwards uncharted 2 has recieved from gaming websites so far
apperantly all the reviewers love uncharteds gameplay........as far as GOW3, we've played GOW,(or at least I have) and we know how the game plays. like ive said, according to all the sites and critics both GOW3 and U2 are deserving of their praise

That was my fault when i was talking about gameplay i meant alan wake, you have never played the game so how do you know the gameplay is generic, also you still have not shown me anything to disprove my point all you have shown me is awards for graphics,multiplayer and best action adventure game on the PS3.First off i never mentioned graphics, Secondly you havent addressed the issue of the games art direction and lastly all those awards do not stop the game from being generic it just means its' a really well done generic game.

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#46 mrarmyman48
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[QUOTE="mrarmyman48"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] Alan Wake is not generic! The gameplay and plot are very different then anything we've seen before. The point I was making with GoW, is that calling Alan Wake boring is like calling GoW boring. I mean, its not like hteres not a ton of games very similar to GoW.bronxxbombers
GOW has carved a deep enough niche in the gaming market as an iconic character. what other game character do you know of who has friggin swords chained to his arms that glow orange when he throws them? the gameplay has differentiated itself enough from all the other games in its genre. a guy with a flashlight isnt exactly that original

Okay. Last time buddy. NAME A GAME THTAS JUST LIKE ALAN WAKE! Then you can say its not original. But alas, there are none, and Alan wake gets an A for originality. Games like GoW you say? Prince of Persia, Heavenly Sword, Ghost Rider, The Darksiders(i think thats the title) DMC, Ninja gaiden, must i go on even more?

those games are all vastly different than GOW in both art direction, and gameplay. like I said no character has gameplay like kratos, that is the first character to have blades chained to his arms with which he can throw. with your logic mario is just like every other 2d platformer from the SNES (remember, almost all SNES games were 2d platformers) but he differentiated himself enough to create his own niche in the market. halo was not the first dual analog FPS, Timesplitters came first, but again, halo carved enough of its own niche in the market.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="mrarmyman48"] thats cool, your entitled to your opinion, just know that the majority dissagrees with you. hell i think LBP is boring as hell and just from playing the demo in the stores id rate it a 5.5. doesnt stop it from being the 2nd highest rated exclusive this gen on gamerankings now does it?mrarmyman48

I would never judge a game just from a demo and then brag about how other games are better from review scores.

I said I would enjoy all those other games more than GOW3, I don't need review scores or anyone else to validate that.

im not judging the game. i was proving a point that im allowed to have my opinion on a game (as are you) but that I was in the vast minority (as are you). its fine that you dont need a review score to validate your enjoyment of the game, but your just in the minority. the consensus is that GOW is better, and your opinion doesnt change that

you aren't proving anything. And what is this VAST minority that you speak of? It is pretty much common knowledge that Mass Effect 2 and Alan Wake are 2 games made by Quality developers and will be just as good as Uncharted 2 or GOW 3.THere isn't a vast majority of people that will disagree with this.

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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="mrarmyman48"] GOW has carved a deep enough niche in the gaming market as an iconic character. what other game character do you know of who has friggin swords chained to his arms that glow orange when he throws them? the gameplay has differentiated itself enough from all the other games in its genre. a guy with a flashlight isnt exactly that originalmrarmyman48
Okay. Last time buddy. NAME A GAME THTAS JUST LIKE ALAN WAKE! Then you can say its not original. But alas, there are none, and Alan wake gets an A for originality. Games like GoW you say? Prince of Persia, Heavenly Sword, Ghost Rider, The Darksiders(i think thats the title) DMC, Ninja gaiden, must i go on even more?

those games are all vastly different than GOW in both art direction, and gameplay. like I said no character has gameplay like kratos, that is the first character to have blades chained to his arms with which he can throw. with your logic mario is just like every other 2d platformer from the SNES (remember, almost all SNES games were 2d platformers) but he differentiated himself enough to create his own niche in the market. halo was not the first dual analog FPS, Timesplitters came first, but again, halo carved enough of its own niche in the market.

He asked you a pretty simple question: name a game that's like Alan Wake. I have to wonder why you're being so evasive.

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ME2 looks ball-tighteningly good.
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#50 silentobi
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Just finished looking at the Alan Wake gameplay vid. I like itsrefreshing take on gameplay and narrative. Graphics are really good also. Can easily put it up there with U2.