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This. In order for me to buy a PS3 and all the replacement games, i'd have to spend like $600-$700. Or I could pay $100 and get my 360 replaced. I chose the $100. Plus I play alot of multiplats, which are always crummy on PS3 when compared to the 360.1.) its a great system
2.) they invested enough money into it (XBL/Games)
3.) dont perfer games on a different system.
4.) because they can..
Really, was this thread even needed?
Pinkyimp
[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]This. In order for me to buy a PS3 and all the replacement games, i'd have to spend like $600-$700. Or I could pay $100 and get my 360 replaced. I chose the $100. Plus I play alot of multiplats, which are always crummy on PS3 when compared to the 360. total it up with the amount you spend for your first xbox > a ps31.) its a great system
2.) they invested enough money into it (XBL/Games)
3.) dont perfer games on a different system.
4.) because they can..
Really, was this thread even needed?
Senor_Kami
i never witness this many fanboys in my life. people act its okay because oohhhhhhh m$ fix it for free. it should had never broke in the first place. and you act like you cant trade all you "investments" for credit for a ps3.
[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]This. In order for me to buy a PS3 and all the replacement games, i'd have to spend like $600-$700. Or I could pay $100 and get my 360 replaced. I chose the $100. Plus I play alot of multiplats, which are always crummy on PS3 when compared to the 360. total it up with the amount you spend for your first xbox > a ps31.) its a great system
2.) they invested enough money into it (XBL/Games)
3.) dont perfer games on a different system.
4.) because they can..
Really, was this thread even needed?
dthach614
i never witness this many fanboys in my life. people act its okay because oohhhhhhh m$ fix it for free. it should had never broke in the first place. and you act like you cant trade all you "investments" for credit for a ps3.
In your world, there are people who can jump through time. Sadly, I live in the real world where there isn't time travel. I can't undo my original purchase. I can only look to future. My options were spend $600-$700 and miss out on the sequels to my favorite games this gen, Mass Effect & Lost Odyssey, or pay $100. I'm not saying its good that my 360 broke, but I think its stupid to suggest I pay $600-$700 additional dollars for the same or lesser gaming experience rather than paying $100. Thats like if your PS3 breaks rather than pay an additional $100 to fix it, you go out and pay an additional $700 to get a 360, Blu-Ray Player and the multiplats that you already own.[QUOTE="dthach614"][QUOTE="Senor_Kami"] This. In order for me to buy a PS3 and all the replacement games, i'd have to spend like $600-$700. Or I could pay $100 and get my 360 replaced. I chose the $100. Plus I play alot of multiplats, which are always crummy on PS3 when compared to the 360.Senor_Kamitotal it up with the amount you spend for your first xbox > a ps3
i never witness this many fanboys in my life. people act its okay because oohhhhhhh m$ fix it for free. it should had never broke in the first place. and you act like you cant trade all you "investments" for credit for a ps3.
In your world, there are people who can jump through time. Sadly, I live in the real world where there isn't time travel. I can't undo my original purchase. I can only look to future. My options were spend $600-$700 and miss out on the sequels to my favorite games this gen, Mass Effect & Lost Odyssey, or pay $100. I'm not saying its good that my 360 broke, but I think its stupid to suggest I pay $600-$700 additional dollars for the same or lesser gaming experience rather than paying $100. Thats like if your PS3 breaks rather than pay an additional $100 to fix it, you go out and pay an additional $700 to get a 360, Blu-Ray Player and the multiplats that you already own.1. you dont have to replace the games that your already have. if i bought a ps3, i would be buying mgs4 lbp, resistance 2, etc. as for them multiplats games, you can trade your old games in. and once again you DONT have to buy the multplat that you already own. you're not force too. I wouldnt do either. i just buy the games that i havent get the chance to play yet. so now do the math without the exageration. I buy games to play them, not to keep a collection. so after im done with them and there's no replay value left, Ill trade them in.
2. you said its stupid to switch over. no it is stupid to stay with M$ after they just **** you over. if i got the money to buy a ps3, dont you think i got the money to get a arcade 360? it aint all about the money, i already paid for my 360 and I SHOULD NOT BE CHARGE AGAIN FOR SOMETHING I HAD ALREADY PAID FOR. I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HASSLE FILL REPAIR ORDER. what dont you people get?
3. you said you will miss out the sequals on the 360. what about you missing out on the games that are exclusive for the ps3? and btw it looks like mass effect going to multiplat.
4. from i read and heard, the ps3 is very reliable.
I personally think it's outrageous, a console is not cheap your paying #200 + for a videogame console and it's not even reliable ? Reability should be the main focus that is why microsoft has so many lawsuits and is losing money left and right they already lost more than $2,000,000 and they start screwing consumers more many which had to buy new 360s I could not imagine myself paying another $200 + for a console I already purchased with my hard earned money because the people at microsoft are incompitent and can't make a reliable system. Not only that many of the lawsuits came because of consumers having their games broken by scratches made by the system microsoft would not even refund their games yet alone their machine so they had to call a class action lawsuit.
I have no clue why people would support microsoft you may not like the PS 3 and wii games but at least the companies that make those machines care enough about their consumers and work hard to give a reliable system.
I personally think it's outrageous, a console is not cheap your paying #200 + for a videogame console and it's not even reliable ? Reability should be the main focus that is why microsoft has so many lawsuits and is losing money left and right they already lost more than $2,000,000 and they start screwing consumers more many which had to buy new 360s I could not imagine myself paying another $200 + for a console I already purchased with my hard earned money because the people at microsoft are incompitent and can't make a reliable system. Not only that many of the lawsuits came because of consumers having their games broken by scratches made by the system microsoft would not even refund their games yet alone their machine so they had to call a class action lawsuit.
I have no clue why people would support microsoft you may not like the PS 3 and wii games but at least the companies that make those machines care enough about their consumers and work hard to give a reliable system.
tek91
AMEN
Why would they buy another one? It gets replaced for free.LoseEagles1245who cares if it's repaired for free...it's only repaired for free if its the rrod but what about disk scratching and all the other problems it has. It's only free for a certian amount of time, and you are actually paying an arm and a leg every year with your $50-$90 subscription fees. Any other product would get sent to the better business buerro and no a recall and rebate would be in order. Not so with M$, why? they can bribe the bbb... It's pathitic all the stupid people in my country- USA that fall for this.. and then go back to it. I got a zune last year and now it's got the white line of death it froze and there is no repairing it without sending it in and having to pay ms...horrible crap hardware. I will never buy a ms product ever! I have a lot of sony hardware -ps1, psp, ps3 w810i phone, bravia 32" tv etc.. and all work flawlessly. Seriously the games on ps3 are better the hardware is better the only thing is the price. But xbox cost more in the long run and breaks...PS3 is the better system period!
I personally think it's outrageous, a console is not cheap your paying #200 + for a videogame console and it's not even reliable ? Reability should be the main focus that is why microsoft has so many lawsuits and is losing money left and right they already lost more than $2,000,000 and they start screwing consumers more many which had to buy new 360s I could not imagine myself paying another $200 + for a console I already purchased with my hard earned money because the people at microsoft are incompitent and can't make a reliable system. Not only that many of the lawsuits came because of consumers having their games broken by scratches made by the system microsoft would not even refund their games yet alone their machine so they had to call a class action lawsuit.
I have no clue why people would support microsoft you may not like the PS 3 and wii games but at least the companies that make those machines care enough about their consumers and work hard to give a reliable system.
Just like Sony their ps1/ps2 wasn't reliable and had DRE and were sued for it and people still support and bought ps2 knowing about Dre on ps2 systems My 360 is just findI personally think it's outrageous, a console is not cheap your paying #200 + for a videogame console and it's not even reliable ? Reability should be the main focus that is why microsoft has so many lawsuits and is losing money left and right they already lost more than $2,000,000 and they start screwing consumers more many which had to buy new 360s I could not imagine myself paying another $200 + for a console I already purchased with my hard earned money because the people at microsoft are incompitent and can't make a reliable system. Not only that many of the lawsuits came because of consumers having their games broken by scratches made by the system microsoft would not even refund their games yet alone their machine so they had to call a class action lawsuit.
I have no clue why people would support microsoft you may not like the PS 3 and wii games but at least the companies that make those machines care enough about their consumers and work hard to give a reliable system.
Just like Sony their ps1/ps2 wasn't reliable and had DRE and were sued for it and people still support and bought ps2 knowing about Dre on ps2 systems My 360 is just find Dont even bother man lol. check his posting history, he's not gonna listen no matter how much sense it makes, but i bet he had multiple PS2's last gen like we all did, and he never said a wordI personally think it's outrageous, a console is not cheap your paying #200 + for a videogame console and it's not even reliable ? Reability should be the main focus that is why microsoft has so many lawsuits and is losing money left and right they already lost more than $2,000,000 and they start screwing consumers more many which had to buy new 360s I could not imagine myself paying another $200 + for a console I already purchased with my hard earned money because the people at microsoft are incompitent and can't make a reliable system. Not only that many of the lawsuits came because of consumers having their games broken by scratches made by the system microsoft would not even refund their games yet alone their machine so they had to call a class action lawsuit.
I have no clue why people would support microsoft you may not like the PS 3 and wii games but at least the companies that make those machines care enough about their consumers and work hard to give a reliable system.
Just like Sony their ps1/ps2 wasn't reliable and had DRE and were sued for it and people still support and bought ps2 knowing about Dre on ps2 systems My 360 is just find what a load of ****. the ps1 was perfectly fine. hell, my launch ps1 still works great, not a problem. i understand there are ppl that had some issues with it, and the ps2 was far less reliable but still, dre isn't nearly as widespread as 3rod. also, a dre issue is fairly easy to fix unlike 3rod. there are some major differences between the two. and before you lable me a fanboy, i personally hated the ps2. xbox was my system of choice last gen. this is perhaps the most laughable argument lems have about 3rod. "but but the ps2, blah blah blah..." no one here wants to hear it... MS is screwing every last lem here and its terrible ppl still support them. after I recieved my third I promised myself i wouldn't give those idiots anymore of my hard earned money...[QUOTE="kyacat"][QUOTE="tek91"]Just like Sony their ps1/ps2 wasn't reliable and had DRE and were sued for it and people still support and bought ps2 knowing about Dre on ps2 systems My 360 is just find what a load of ****. the ps1 was perfectly fine. hell, my launch ps1 still works great, not a problem. i understand there are ppl that had some issues with it, and the ps2 was far less reliable but still, dre isn't nearly as widespread as 3rod. also, a dre issue is fairly easy to fix unlike 3rod. there are some major differences between the two. and before you lable me a fanboy, i personally hated the ps2. xbox was my system of choice last gen. this is perhaps the most laughable argument lems have about 3rod. "but but the ps2, blah blah blah..." no one here wants to hear it... MS is screwing every last lem here and its terrible ppl still support them. after I recieved my third I promised myself i wouldn't give those idiots anymore of my hard earned money... I too, never had a problem with my ps2.I personally think it's outrageous, a console is not cheap your paying #200 + for a videogame console and it's not even reliable ? Reability should be the main focus that is why microsoft has so many lawsuits and is losing money left and right they already lost more than $2,000,000 and they start screwing consumers more many which had to buy new 360s I could not imagine myself paying another $200 + for a console I already purchased with my hard earned money because the people at microsoft are incompitent and can't make a reliable system. Not only that many of the lawsuits came because of consumers having their games broken by scratches made by the system microsoft would not even refund their games yet alone their machine so they had to call a class action lawsuit.
I have no clue why people would support microsoft you may not like the PS 3 and wii games but at least the companies that make those machines care enough about their consumers and work hard to give a reliable system.
ninjaxmas
[QUOTE="ninjaxmas"][QUOTE="kyacat"] Just like Sony their ps1/ps2 wasn't reliable and had DRE and were sued for it and people still support and bought ps2 knowing about Dre on ps2 systems My 360 is just find dthach614what a load of ****. the ps1 was perfectly fine. hell, my launch ps1 still works great, not a problem. i understand there are ppl that had some issues with it, and the ps2 was far less reliable but still, dre isn't nearly as widespread as 3rod. also, a dre issue is fairly easy to fix unlike 3rod. there are some major differences between the two. and before you lable me a fanboy, i personally hated the ps2. xbox was my system of choice last gen. this is perhaps the most laughable argument lems have about 3rod. "but but the ps2, blah blah blah..." no one here wants to hear it... MS is screwing every last lem here and its terrible ppl still support them. after I recieved my third I promised myself i wouldn't give those idiots anymore of my hard earned money... I too, never had a problem with my ps2. Just like some people (me included) have never had a problem with the 360
[QUOTE="dthach614"][QUOTE="ninjaxmas"]what a load of ****. the ps1 was perfectly fine. hell, my launch ps1 still works great, not a problem. i understand there are ppl that had some issues with it, and the ps2 was far less reliable but still, dre isn't nearly as widespread as 3rod. also, a dre issue is fairly easy to fix unlike 3rod. there are some major differences between the two. and before you lable me a fanboy, i personally hated the ps2. xbox was my system of choice last gen. this is perhaps the most laughable argument lems have about 3rod. "but but the ps2, blah blah blah..." no one here wants to hear it... MS is screwing every last lem here and its terrible ppl still support them. after I recieved my third I promised myself i wouldn't give those idiots anymore of my hard earned money...navyguy21I too, never had a problem with my ps2. Just like some people (me included) have never had a problem with the 360well good, hope your luck continues. i personally don't know of one person, be it friends, family, co-workers, ect, that havn't had at least one die on them.
[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="ninjaxmas"]i dunno how ppl can support MS after this whole mess started. i havn't bought a game for my 360 in over a year because i refuse to give them my hard earned money. after my 2nd died i canceled my live account and sold all my games except for two and bought a ps3. best gaming choice i've ever made...ninjaxmasSame can be said about the ps2 and its problems. Honestly though you are boycotting because you had bad luck with your system is a little childish. You are missing out on all the great games. yeah well, i didn't much care for the ps2 last gen either. had one for about 6 months and got rid of it. dre was part of the reason i waited so long to get one too. i like a reliable console. the original xbox was amazing enough to keep me happy and i never had problems with it. as far as missing out on great exclusives, i still get to play them through gamefly. and if i feel the need to buy one i'll pick it up used so they won't see that money. i also see nothing wrong with boycotting a console. it'd be flat out stupid to invest money into something that'll break every 6 months. you calling that childish is horribly inaccurate...
I agree. My 10 month old 360 died last week, sold it yesterday. I know I could have had M$ fix it for free, but it would probably just break again.
Why do some women return to husbands that beat them? Change is hardr er to deal with than mistreatment sometimes. ANeuralPathwayi know your trying to just joke around, but that's really not funny. and its not a similar comparison at all. the psychology behind domestic abuse goes much, much deeper than any fear of change.
[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]I love my 360, I miss my 360. So even after its Red Ring (thats right, one ring killed me) I'll do whatever I have to to get it fixed.tek91
your second one will break also
how do you know? there's no clear indicator of whether or not a 360 will RROD. my second system, one which uses the older chipset, has been going strong almost 2 1/2 years.4. Again, I could pay an additional $100 for the same gaming experiences, or an additional $400.
This is what were trying to tell you why are you paying an additional $100 for something you already have and it wasn't your fault it broke ? You didn't spill coffee on the 360 or banged it on the floor so why do you have to pay as if you did ? microsoft built the faulty system not you.
with all due respect microsoft is suckering you that $100 does not belong to them you could use that for games or to save but to pay $100 to fix a system that microsoft could built right from day one is robbing you might as well take $100 and just throw it in the toilet.
major rip off
4. Again, I could pay an additional $100 for the same gaming experiences, or an additional $400.
This is what were trying to tell you why are you paying an additional $100 for something you already have and it wasn't your fault it broke ? You didn't spill coffee on the 360 or banged it on the floor so why do you have to pay as if you did ? microsoft built the faulty system not you.
with all due respect microsoft is suckering you that $100 does not belong to them you could use that for games or to save but to pay $100 to fix a system that microsoft could built right from day one is robbing you might as well take $100 and just throw it in the toilet.
major rip off
you mean like the time i had to buy a brand new PS2 because of the DRE issue at the time? yep, sony suckered me out of about $200. see what i did there? honestly tek91, could you for once post something that is not complete sony propaganda?[QUOTE="tek91"][QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]I love my 360, I miss my 360. So even after its Red Ring (thats right, one ring killed me) I'll do whatever I have to to get it fixed.clone01
your second one will break also
how do you know? there's no clear indicator of whether or not a 360 will RROD. my second system, one which uses the older chipset, has been going strong almost 2 1/2 years.You must be a lucky survivor I heard alot of reports of systems breaking up to 6 times.
I Just hope for your sake that it don't break in the next couple of days or months and continues like that.
4. Again, I could pay an additional $100 for the same gaming experiences, or an additional $400.
This is what were trying to tell you why are you paying an additional $100 for something you already have and it wasn't your fault it broke ? You didn't spill coffee on the 360 or banged it on the floor so why do you have to pay as if you did ? microsoft built the faulty system not you.
with all due respect microsoft is suckering you that $100 does not belong to them you could use that for games or to save but to pay $100 to fix a system that microsoft could built right from day one is robbing you might as well take $100 and just throw it in the toilet.
major rip off
you mean like the time i had to buy a brand new PS2 because of the DRE issue at the time? yep, sony suckered me out of about $200. see what i did there? honestly tek91, could you for once post something that is not complete sony propaganda? He really cant, check his posting history lol. Some of these hardcore sony fans just make me feel sorry for them lole really cant, check his posting history lol. Some of these hardcore sony fans just make me feel sorry for them lol
im dead serious when it comes to this my friend expirienced rrod and that's one of the reason I didn't buy all three machines M$ dropped the ball.
For the same reason people kept buying PS2's after the DRE.
It's a great console with a great selection of games.
Again, the concept of "Sunk Cost" eludes you guys. I can not undo my 360 purchase. I can't get that money back. I can't time travel to November 2007 and tell the Senor_Kami thats standing in best buy, "its gonna break!!!!!!!!!" Even if I could, that Senor_Kami would have left the store empty handed. He wouldn't have been like, "well then, i'll just drop $500 on a system!!!" He would have said, "well looks like I sit this gen out for another year." In 2008 i'm sure that Senor_Kami would have purchased a 360 though. Just like in 2007, he'd have read that there are new chips that greatly reduces issues, he still would have wanted to play Bio-Ware games, he still would have had faith in Rare (especially after they released a AA platformer, a genre he was sad to see die), and he would still be checking out video game sites and seeing that 9/10, multiplats are better on 360. When he walked into the store and saw, good gaming experience for $200 (really $244 since he wants XBL) and good gaming experience for $400... it would have been a no-brainer. But all that assumes time travel is possible. Maybe for you guys it is, but for me it isn't. My options are to pay an additional $400 for the same gaming experiences or pay $100 for the same gaming experiences. Or do a silent protest and leave my 17 xbox games forever unplayed/worthless and wait until I eventually could justify paying $400 for a video game console. You guys are making price a zero factor, which I think is a critically flawed way to look at it.4. Again, I could pay an additional $100 for the same gaming experiences, or an additional $400.
This is what were trying to tell you why are you paying an additional $100 for something you already have and it wasn't your fault it broke ? You didn't spill coffee on the 360 or banged it on the floor so why do you have to pay as if you did ? microsoft built the faulty system not you.
with all due respect microsoft is suckering you that $100 does not belong to them you could use that for games or to save but to pay $100 to fix a system that microsoft could built right from day one is robbing you might as well take $100 and just throw it in the toilet.
major rip off
tek91
e really cant, check his posting history lol. Some of these hardcore sony fans just make me feel sorry for them lol
im dead serious when it comes to this my friend expirienced rrod and that's one of the reason I didn't buy all three machines M$ dropped the ball.
So what do you call what sony did??? The first year and a half was absolutely horrible and you know it. Even bigger than that, sony lost so much money, and so much marketshare this gen. and you say MICROSOFT dropped the ball??? wake up man! Stop drinking the kool-aid!I love how people who support the 360 in these threads are always like "just chill, you can get it fixed for free". Yes, you can, but you shouldn't have to. Why should you just accept that every couple of months you have to box up your 360 and ship it out for a week to get fixed? If M$ can't fix the problem then they had no business selling them in the first place.SlorgieNelI agree with you, we shouldnt HAVE to deal with it, it seems somewhat unfair sometimes. But consoles or anything else you buy is an investment, and with any investmen there are risks, This was one with really high risks, but people dont mind that risk because of the joy that it provides. I agree, it does suck, but the experience is well worth it. I would do the exact same IF my PS3 broke, i love the games so i would get it fixed for Uncharted and MGS4 alone. But to suggest that someone is wrong because they dont feel the way you feel, or do what you do, is kinda wrong dont you think?? Maybe YOU wouldnt do it, but if other people want to take that risk, who are you to critisize that??
I love how people who support the 360 in these threads are always like "just chill, you can get it fixed for free". Yes, you can, but you shouldn't have to. Why should you just accept that every couple of months you have to box up your 360 and ship it out for a week to get fixed? If M$ can't fix the problem then they had no business selling them in the first place.SlorgieNelexactly
[QUOTE="SlorgieNel"]I love how people who support the 360 in these threads are always like "just chill, you can get it fixed for free". Yes, you can, but you shouldn't have to. Why should you just accept that every couple of months you have to box up your 360 and ship it out for a week to get fixed? If M$ can't fix the problem then they had no business selling them in the first place.navyguy21I agree with you, we shouldnt HAVE to deal with it, it seems somewhat unfair sometimes. But consoles or anything else you buy is an investment, and with any investmen there are risks, This was one with really high risks, but people dont mind that risk because of the joy that it provides. I agree, it does suck, but the experience is well worth it. I would do the exact same IF my PS3 broke, i love the games so i would get it fixed for Uncharted and MGS4 alone. But to suggest that someone is wrong because they dont feel the way you feel, or do what you do, is kinda wrong dont you think?? Maybe YOU wouldnt do it, but if other people want to take that risk, who are you to critisize that??because by supporting a company that pulls that garbage, the consumer is basically saying its ok. we as gamers should demand better...
[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="SlorgieNel"]I love how people who support the 360 in these threads are always like "just chill, you can get it fixed for free". Yes, you can, but you shouldn't have to. Why should you just accept that every couple of months you have to box up your 360 and ship it out for a week to get fixed? If M$ can't fix the problem then they had no business selling them in the first place.ninjaxmasI agree with you, we shouldnt HAVE to deal with it, it seems somewhat unfair sometimes. But consoles or anything else you buy is an investment, and with any investmen there are risks, This was one with really high risks, but people dont mind that risk because of the joy that it provides. I agree, it does suck, but the experience is well worth it. I would do the exact same IF my PS3 broke, i love the games so i would get it fixed for Uncharted and MGS4 alone. But to suggest that someone is wrong because they dont feel the way you feel, or do what you do, is kinda wrong dont you think?? Maybe YOU wouldnt do it, but if other people want to take that risk, who are you to critisize that??because by supporting a company that pulls that garbage, the consumer is basically saying its ok. we as gamers should demand better... you mean YOU would demand better??? but you dont have to worry about it because you dont have one. Why are you so concerned about how other people should and should not feel??? does it hurt you that bad that a broken console is outselling the one you chose??
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