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HD DVD vs Blu Ray specs : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/415/2DazKurupt

wow. that link is bs. first off, dual layer blu-rays hold 50gb, not 54 gb. second, buena vista doesn't support hd dvd because they're owned by disney. thirdly, disney does not support hd dvd.

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The real question here is what format will Pulp Fiction be released on?

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#104 miss_kitt3n

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Let me borrow a line from the sheep:

"Sales figures is all that matters"

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The real question here is what format will Pulp Fiction be released on?air0123

the answer is blu-ray. pulp fiction was distributed by miramax studios in the us. miramax is a subsidiary of the walt disney company. it's distributed worldwide by buena vista, also a subsidiary of the walt disney company.

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[QUOTE="DazKurupt"]HD DVD vs Blu Ray specs : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/415/2rage8669

wow. that link is bs. first off, dual layer blu-rays hold 50gb, not 54 gb. second, buena vista doesn't support hd dvd because they're owned by disney. thirdly, disney does not support hd dvd.

You do know that there is already a bd that holds 100 gb ? You want a link dont you tiring.

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#107 fatzombiepigeon

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Let me borrow a line from the sheep:

"Sales figures is all that matters"
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But DVD is outselling Blu-Ray by millions. Or were you just pointing out their blatant stupidity?

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Bluray will become cheap as dvds, and stores will sell blank bluray discs 50 packs one day for $20. Isn't it obvious thats whats gonna happen. Its next generation media..sure its expensive..so where dvds when they came out.

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Bluray will become cheap as dvds, and stores will sell blank bluray discs 50 packs one day for $20. Isn't it obvious thats whats gonna happen. Its next generation media..sure its expensive..so where dvds when they came out.Vicious_T

exactly.

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[QUOTE="air0123"]The real question here is what format will Pulp Fiction be released on?rage8669

the answer is blu-ray. pulp fiction was distributed by miramax studios in the us. miramax is a subsidiary of the walt disney company. it's distributed worldwide by buena vista, also a subsidiary of the walt disney company.

Well, thats good to know, I guess that means Clerks will be BR then also. I just might have to get a stand alone BR player when the prices go down.

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Blu-ray has better data transfer rate (40 mbps against HD-DVDs 30 mbps, that's a great difference), has more space (up to 200 GB proven, so with time we can get 100 GB, 200 GB Blu-ray discs, and we can already get 50 GB discs on the market) and is more resistant to scratches (protective layer).

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[QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"][QUOTE="daytona_178"]
I was just wondering why Blue-Ray is so hyped up..... i mean iv heard it cant be read from as fast as a HD-DVD, and i know it has more space... but i dont think games developers could actually fill all that space up. But im not too smart so please tell me which one you like and why.
P.S. im not a Microsoft fanboy.... I have a PC, and a DS Lite... Im neutral!
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Next Gen pc vendors are adopting blu ray drives not hd drives from what ive seen at alienware and velocity micro. So pc games will be blu ray in the future . Ps3 games = blu ray. Next gen medium for gaming and movies = blu ray. Hd-dvd is toast imo.

while alienware, dell, and velocity micro may have blu-ray in their computers, hd dvd drives can be found in computers from hewlett-packard(HP), samsung, acer, LG, toshiba, and fujitsu. also, companies that were once blu-ray exclusive are now making hd dvd products, example, samsung, HP, and LG. apple, once blu-ray exclusive, is as of now undecided about what format to use. also, china is producing hd dvd players that cost less than those sold here in america and will soon be here, example of one such company is lite-on. china has chosen to use hd dvd with their own codec because it cost less to produce, all you have to do is change the codec and you can sell the hardware and software anywhere in the world. europe, as of now, has hd dvd leading the market with 85% . hd dvd's don't have region coding meaning any hd dvd bought anywhere in the world can be played using an hd dvd player from another part of the world. example, and hd dvd from america can be played on an austrailian hd dvd player.

i hope that at least one blu-ray fanboy can answer this, if the bda has 2 million blu-ray players on the market while the dvd forum only has 250,000 hd dvd players on the market, then why is blu-ray only outselling hd dvd by 2:1 instead of 5:1 or higher?

hd-dvd computer listing: link
hd dvd europe: link
european hd dvd promotional group: link 1
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blu-ray/hd dvd sales compared: link

Because it takes time for people to adopt new technology, Note your pc vendors comparison Alienware , Dell xps, Velocity micro pc's = Pc's built for gaming. Samsung , Hp, apple those are more like multimedia pc's. HD-dvd drives have yet to do anything for gaming....at all.

wow, dude, you just self-owned yourself. gaming pc's use cd's and dvd's for games not blu-ray. blu-ray for pc gaming is a moot point. the reason they sell it is because they support blu-ray and want to raise the blu-ray hardware sales. also, people with gaming pc's also watch movies, not just play games, also a reason blu-ray is in their computers. a better way to blu-ray in computers is to make them an option for computers starting at $1000, not computers starting at $3000.

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dell supports blu-ray but it can't be added to there computers at this time. alienware has it as a $900 dollar option for the aurora 7500 which has a $1,799 base price. HP provides hd dvd as $250 dollar option for the m7790y desktop computer which has a $929 base price. both otical drives are options and are read only. (note: the blu-ray drive provide dvd burning but the blu-ray portion is READ ONLY, ie, you cannot burn blu-ray disks, even though blu-ray is 2x. it's 2x because even sony said movies need to be on 1.5x disks and drives in order to function as it should.)

whats your point here ....... Alienware and velocity micro ....known for gaming systems support blu ray ....ps3 already uses blu ray for gaming ........ self 0wned pfft...hd dvd used for movies still even if we were to look at hd-dvd vs blu ray purely for movie aspects. Blu ray still has superior data transfer rate and capacity....self owned ? Come on.

they support it but they can't use it for gaming because blu-ray is not the optical standard. they only system to use it for gaming purposes is the ps3 and even then it's not as good as the 12x dvd drive in the 360 because the data transfer is not as fast hance why ps3 games have to install on the ps3 before you can play them. and yes you are self owned because you were alluding to the use of blu-ray as gaming medium for the pc. as far as pc gaming is concerned, dvd will be the standard until there's a next gen optical winner; there's no point to use one of the new optical formats and have the medium you chose become obsolete. also, not everyone has hd dvd or blu-ray for their pc's and most are not willing to buy one until there is a clear winner.

on a personal note, you did not provide any links or proof to what you said. you did not reubtt anything i said. thus, you merely provided your opinion. you were also defensive in your response meaning you know you got self owned and are afraid admit it.

blu-ray good for gaming?: link

Your wrong , dvd9 transfer rate is 5x slower then blu ray , i really dont want to argue... Pointless since Hd- dvd isnt used for gaming , while blu ray is. Ive already done the posting links to show these facts months ago on a similar thread , dont really feel like repeating the process. Your like way off the subject of the post man. He ask why blu ray is hyped up......Because its used for gaming and will be used for gaming in pc's imo....its all good.

no links = no proof. no proof = self owned. blu-ray isn't popular because it's used in gaming. it's popular because its advertised more than hd dvd. blu-ray will not be used for pc games because dvd is sufficient. games like half-life 2, doom 3, fear, and crysis are all on ( or in the case of crysis, will be on ) dvd. just because your a blu-ray fan and want hd dvd to fail so that you can justify you waste $600, doesn't in any way, shape or form mean that you're right. in other words, you fail.

uh i havnt bought a ps3 yet heh you should already know this if your going to argue but heres a link http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/415/2 You keep saying dvd is sufficient ....why are their new mediums in the first place if that were so.... They dont make new forms of holding data for their health. Sure for last gen or current gen dvd is enough but were talking next gen mediums .....I care not if Hd dvd fails or not im just not impressed by its specs and lack of any use in a gaming console. Though it does have some cool features for playing movies.

if you'd read my other post, you'd know that site is inaccurate. the site claims dl bd is 54 gb, but is actually 50gb. it says buena vista and disney support hd dvd but in reality, they don't.
the reason for the new formats is because a high capacity medium is required to hold the amount of data needed for hd movies. as of this moment, games do not require a new format because compress exists in which can hold a game like crysis on one dvd. in the future, probably next gen with the arrival of the xbox 720 ( or as i like to call it, the X3), a new high capacity format will be needed. by then there should only be one hd disk format. many people state that online distribution is the next step in delivering a movie home, but at this time internet bandwidth to home pcs are high enough to stream and hd movie, nor is it high enough that a high quality, high bit-rate video can be downloaded in less than 1 hour. until the time it can, optical mediums will be the choice for games and movies.

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[QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="air0123"]The real question here is what format will Pulp Fiction be released on?air0123

the answer is blu-ray. pulp fiction was distributed by miramax studios in the us. miramax is a subsidiary of the walt disney company. it's distributed worldwide by buena vista, also a subsidiary of the walt disney company.

Well, thats good to know, I guess that means Clerks will be BR then also. I just might have to get a stand alone BR player when the prices go down.

clerks and clerks 2 will be on hd dvd. they are distributed by weinstein company, and hd dvd supporter.

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I was just wondering why Blue-Ray is so hyped up..... i mean iv heard it cant be read from as fast as a HD-DVD, and i know it has more space... but i dont think games developers could actually fill all that space up. But im not too smart so please tell me which one you like and why.
P.S. im not a Microsoft fanboy.... I have a PC, and a DS Lite... Im neutral!
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It's because the developers won't fill it up that makes it better. It took 1.5 generations of consoles (360's DVD9 will most likely be overflowing a year and a half from now) for DVD to get filled, with some games from just the first generation (GTA:SA on PS2, Xenosaga 2/3, and Star Ocean 3) taking up more than one DVD. Cartridges were around for 3 generations, CD's for just one. Blu-ray's ability to withstand time by allowing more space is a GOOD thing. Why anyone would support a disc that has a slightly faster read time, but almost half the space, is beyond me. Smaller, slightly faster games > much bigger, slightly slower games?

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Blu-ray has better data transfer rate (40 mbps against HD-DVDs 30 mbps, that's a great difference), has more space (up to 200 GB proven, so with time we can get 100 GB, 200 GB Blu-ray discs, and we can already get 50 GB discs on the market) and is more resistant to scratches (protective layer).SambaLele

200 gb disks require that the laser in the player can read 8 layers. currently, the players can only read 2 layers. the same goes for hd dvd. the reason the 51gb hd dvd is not on the market yet is because none of the players available can read 3 layers.

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[QUOTE="DazKurupt"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"][QUOTE="daytona_178"]
I was just wondering why Blue-Ray is so hyped up..... i mean iv heard it cant be read from as fast as a HD-DVD, and i know it has more space... but i dont think games developers could actually fill all that space up. But im not too smart so please tell me which one you like and why.
P.S. im not a Microsoft fanboy.... I have a PC, and a DS Lite... Im neutral!
rage8669

Next Gen pc vendors are adopting blu ray drives not hd drives from what ive seen at alienware and velocity micro. So pc games will be blu ray in the future . Ps3 games = blu ray. Next gen medium for gaming and movies = blu ray. Hd-dvd is toast imo.

while alienware, dell, and velocity micro may have blu-ray in their computers, hd dvd drives can be found in computers from hewlett-packard(HP), samsung, acer, LG, toshiba, and fujitsu. also, companies that were once blu-ray exclusive are now making hd dvd products, example, samsung, HP, and LG. apple, once blu-ray exclusive, is as of now undecided about what format to use. also, china is producing hd dvd players that cost less than those sold here in america and will soon be here, example of one such company is lite-on. china has chosen to use hd dvd with their own codec because it cost less to produce, all you have to do is change the codec and you can sell the hardware and software anywhere in the world. europe, as of now, has hd dvd leading the market with 85% . hd dvd's don't have region coding meaning any hd dvd bought anywhere in the world can be played using an hd dvd player from another part of the world. example, and hd dvd from america can be played on an austrailian hd dvd player.

i hope that at least one blu-ray fanboy can answer this, if the bda has 2 million blu-ray players on the market while the dvd forum only has 250,000 hd dvd players on the market, then why is blu-ray only outselling hd dvd by 2:1 instead of 5:1 or higher?

hd-dvd computer listing: link
hd dvd europe: link
european hd dvd promotional group: link 1
link 2
blu-ray/hd dvd sales compared: link

Because it takes time for people to adopt new technology, Note your pc vendors comparison Alienware , Dell xps, Velocity micro pc's = Pc's built for gaming. Samsung , Hp, apple those are more like multimedia pc's. HD-dvd drives have yet to do anything for gaming....at all.

wow, dude, you just self-owned yourself. gaming pc's use cd's and dvd's for games not blu-ray. blu-ray for pc gaming is a moot point. the reason they sell it is because they support blu-ray and want to raise the blu-ray hardware sales. also, people with gaming pc's also watch movies, not just play games, also a reason blu-ray is in their computers. a better way to blu-ray in computers is to make them an option for computers starting at $1000, not computers starting at $3000.

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dell supports blu-ray but it can't be added to there computers at this time. alienware has it as a $900 dollar option for the aurora 7500 which has a $1,799 base price. HP provides hd dvd as $250 dollar option for the m7790y desktop computer which has a $929 base price. both otical drives are options and are read only. (note: the blu-ray drive provide dvd burning but the blu-ray portion is READ ONLY, ie, you cannot burn blu-ray disks, even though blu-ray is 2x. it's 2x because even sony said movies need to be on 1.5x disks and drives in order to function as it should.)

whats your point here ....... Alienware and velocity micro ....known for gaming systems support blu ray ....ps3 already uses blu ray for gaming ........ self 0wned pfft...hd dvd used for movies still even if we were to look at hd-dvd vs blu ray purely for movie aspects. Blu ray still has superior data transfer rate and capacity....self owned ? Come on.

they support it but they can't use it for gaming because blu-ray is not the optical standard. they only system to use it for gaming purposes is the ps3 and even then it's not as good as the 12x dvd drive in the 360 because the data transfer is not as fast hance why ps3 games have to install on the ps3 before you can play them. and yes you are self owned because you were alluding to the use of blu-ray as gaming medium for the pc. as far as pc gaming is concerned, dvd will be the standard until there's a next gen optical winner; there's no point to use one of the new optical formats and have the medium you chose become obsolete. also, not everyone has hd dvd or blu-ray for their pc's and most are not willing to buy one until there is a clear winner.

on a personal note, you did not provide any links or proof to what you said. you did not reubtt anything i said. thus, you merely provided your opinion. you were also defensive in your response meaning you know you got self owned and are afraid admit it.

blu-ray good for gaming?: link

Your wrong , dvd9 transfer rate is 5x slower then blu ray , i really dont want to argue... Pointless since Hd- dvd isnt used for gaming , while blu ray is. Ive already done the posting links to show these facts months ago on a similar thread , dont really feel like repeating the process. Your like way off the subject of the post man. He ask why blu ray is hyped up......Because its used for gaming and will be used for gaming in pc's imo....its all good.

no links = no proof. no proof = self owned. blu-ray isn't popular because it's used in gaming. it's popular because its advertised more than hd dvd. blu-ray will not be used for pc games because dvd is sufficient. games like half-life 2, doom 3, fear, and crysis are all on ( or in the case of crysis, will be on ) dvd. just because your a blu-ray fan and want hd dvd to fail so that you can justify you waste $600, doesn't in any way, shape or form mean that you're right. in other words, you fail.

uh i havnt bought a ps3 yet heh you should already know this if your going to argue but heres a link http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/415/2 You keep saying dvd is sufficient ....why are their new mediums in the first place if that were so.... They dont make new forms of holding data for their health. Sure for last gen or current gen dvd is enough but were talking next gen mediums .....I care not if Hd dvd fails or not im just not impressed by its specs and lack of any use in a gaming console. Though it does have some cool features for playing movies.

if you'd read my other post, you'd know that site is inaccurate. the site claims dl bd is 54 gb, but is actually 50gb. it says buena vista and disney support hd dvd but in reality, they don't.
the reason for the new formats is because a high capacity medium is required to hold the amount of data needed for hd movies. as of this moment, games do not require a new format because compress exists in which can hold a game like crysis on one dvd. in the future, probably next gen with the arrival of the xbox 720 ( or as i like to call it, the X3), a new high capacity format will be needed. by then there should only be one hd disk format. many people state that online distribution is the next step in delivering a movie home, but at this time internet bandwidth to home pcs are high enough to stream and hd movie, nor is it high enough that a high quality, high bit-rate video can be downloaded in less than 1 hour. until the time it can, optical mediums will be the choice for games and movies.

50 , 54 your arguing over 4 gb even at 50 gb its still 15 more gb then HD DVD and The Data transfer rate of blu ray beats both dvd and hd... Just because there are 50gb blu rays now doesnt mean they wont make a 100 gb bd later. Dude if next gen gaming pcs and consoles are adopting blu ray . Its speaks for itself. If Hd ends up doing the same so what for now like i said b4 , blu ray is used for gaming thus it is hyped.

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[QUOTE="SambaLele"]Blu-ray has better data transfer rate (40 mbps against HD-DVDs 30 mbps, that's a great difference), has more space (up to 200 GB proven, so with time we can get 100 GB, 200 GB Blu-ray discs, and we can already get 50 GB discs on the market) and is more resistant to scratches (protective layer).rage8669

200 gb disks require that the laser in the player can read 8 layers. currently, the players can only read 2 layers. the same goes for hd dvd. the reason the 51gb hd dvd is not on the market yet is because none of the players available can read 3 layers.

yep, i already knew all that, that's why i told you "with time" we can get those 100, 200 GB discs, by them it won't be that expensive to get a good player that reads 4 to 8 layers. But by now, you don't need a special player to read 50 GB Blu-rays i believe? But to read your dual layereds HD-DVDs you'll have to get a new player...
but thanks to the contribution.

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[QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"]HD DVD vs Blu Ray specs : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/415/2DazKurupt

wow. that link is bs. first off, dual layer blu-rays hold 50gb, not 54 gb. second, buena vista doesn't support hd dvd because they're owned by disney. thirdly, disney does not support hd dvd.

You do know that there is already a bd that holds 100 gb ? You want a link dont you tiring.

100gb and 200gb disks are prototypes to show that the disk can hold those capacities given the extra layers (4 for 100gb and 8 for 200gb.) it is highly unlikely that these will ever come to the consumer market due to the high cost to produce said disks.

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Bluray will become cheap as dvds, and stores will sell blank bluray discs 50 packs one day for $20. Isn't it obvious thats whats gonna happen. Its next generation media..sure its expensive..so where dvds when they came out.Vicious_T

the same can be said for hd dvd. also, with the chinese companies that will produce the new low cost hd dvd players set to hit the us later this year, we can expect to see hd dvd player costing less than $200 by christmas 2007.

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Ridiculous man , this argument was done with cd to dvd , ff7 had so many discs. which dvd would have held easily. Its the same here take any mmorpg today like everquest 2 or vanguard soh. That requires 20 gb just on the hdd to run , now think 20 gb thats already like 2/3rds capacity of a hd-dvd that holds 30 gb ..... You say its not needed? I know for a fact that it is needed, you think data compression helps games that dont install to hdd and run directly from the drive?

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I was just wondering why Blue-Ray is so hyped up..... i mean iv heard it cant be read from as fast as a HD-DVD, and i know it has more space... but i dont think games developers could actually fill all that space up. But im not too smart so please tell me which one you like and why.
P.S. im not a Microsoft fanboy.... I have a PC, and a DS Lite... Im neutral!
daytona_178

Dvd's have been filled up and BD's will too , If Hd dvds are used in gaming they will be filled up too. Simple fact all mediums become obsolete in a matter of time.

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#123 orangeonxbox

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[QUOTE="venture00"]Also HD DVD has better image qualityR-Dot-Yung

No it doesnt HD DVD is officialy dead anyway when Blu Ray is slowly growing, more space, more movies, BD DVD is the future whether you want it or not

BS. To be officially dead it would need a press release from Toshiba. Also, lets not kid our selves here, both formats are a joke compared to DVD. Neither has 100% Hollywood backing, neither has sales that can match anything like those of DVD, and while fan boys of both bash each others melons in over who has the longest...oops I meant better system, 720p via broadband is picking up pace. I know system wars loves history repeats, but this one is the mother of them all; not Betamax vs. VHS, but SACD and DVD Audio getting their rears kicked to mars by iTunes because the people behind them would not agree and kept fighting. If both sides are still fighting this time next year, then it is thank you and good night to both of them, end of story. People will go from upscaled DVD to digital download and pass this nonsense by.

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[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"][QUOTE="venture00"]Also HD DVD has better image qualityorangeonxbox

No it doesnt HD DVD is officialy dead anyway when Blu Ray is slowly growing, more space, more movies, BD DVD is the future whether you want it or not

BS. To be officially dead it would need a press release from Toshiba. Also, lets not kid our selves here, both formats are a joke compared to DVD. Neither has 100% Hollywood backing, neither has sales that can match anything like those of DVD, and while fan boys of both bash each others melons in over who has the longest...oops I meant better system, 720p via broadband is picking up pace. I know system wars loves history repeats, but this one is the mother of them all; not Betamax vs. VHS, but SACD and DVD Audio getting their rears kicked to mars by iTunes because the people behind them would not agree and kept fighting. If both sides are still fighting this time next year, then it is thank you and good night to both of them, end of story. People will go from upscaled DVD to digital download and pass this nonsense by.

If that were to happen every device would need one of those 1 terabyte HDD's

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[QUOTE="daytona_178"]
I was just wondering why Blue-Ray is so hyped up..... i mean iv heard it cant be read from as fast as a HD-DVD, and i know it has more space... but i dont think games developers could actually fill all that space up. But im not too smart so please tell me which one you like and why.
P.S. im not a Microsoft fanboy.... I have a PC, and a DS Lite... Im neutral!
DazKurupt

Dvd's have been filled up and BD's will too , If Hd dvds are used in gaming they will be filled up too. Simple fact all mediums become obsolete in a matter of time.

finally, something we can both agree on. gaming aside, just an hd movie can fill up the disk.

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[QUOTE="orangeonxbox"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"][QUOTE="venture00"]Also HD DVD has better image qualityDazKurupt

No it doesnt HD DVD is officialy dead anyway when Blu Ray is slowly growing, more space, more movies, BD DVD is the future whether you want it or not

BS. To be officially dead it would need a press release from Toshiba. Also, lets not kid our selves here, both formats are a joke compared to DVD. Neither has 100% Hollywood backing, neither has sales that can match anything like those of DVD, and while fan boys of both bash each others melons in over who has the longest...oops I meant better system, 720p via broadband is picking up pace. I know system wars loves history repeats, but this one is the mother of them all; not Betamax vs. VHS, but SACD and DVD Audio getting their rears kicked to mars by iTunes because the people behind them would not agree and kept fighting. If both sides are still fighting this time next year, then it is thank you and good night to both of them, end of story. People will go from upscaled DVD to digital download and pass this nonsense by.

If that were to happen every device would need one of those 1 terabyte HDD's

also, everyone needs to have a high speed connection of at minimum 20Mbps for quality video. online distribution will not be full scale for another 5 years.

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#127 Runningflame570

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wow. that link is bs. first off, dual layer blu-rays hold 50gb, not 54 gb. second, buena vista doesn't support hd dvd because they're owned by disney. thirdly, disney does not support hd dvd.
rage8669

Hmm...I believe the cartridge version of BD did in fact hold 54GB but thats irrelevant now. But yeah..if it has Buena Vista as supporting HD-DVD its definitely BS.

Blu-ray has better data transfer rate (40 mbps against HD-DVDs 30 mbps, that's a great difference), has more space (up to 200 GB proven, so with time we can get 100 GB, 200 GB Blu-ray discs, and we can already get 50 GB discs on the market) and is more resistant to scratches (protective layer).SambaLele

Amidst all this bickering this guy comes in and explains it all so simply and accurately.

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#128 henry_the_horse

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Blu-ray is better. If you say otherwise you're a tool to HD DVD. Blu-ray offers a better value to consumers and is an ever expanding technology that will always be one step ahead of HD DVD. Triple-layer 51gb HD DVD: who cares when its not even on the market yet and the current standard Blu-ray disc is 50gb? On top of that a quad-layered 100gb BR disc is on its way to the market and a six-layered 200gb BR disc is also being finalized. How can HD DVD ever touch that especially now that you can buy a $500 PS3 which is no more than the cheapest HD DVD player and movies on both formats cost the same, $25 - $35.

Blu-ray is simply the better technology, value and overall product for all of us consumers. If HD DVD succeeds it proves consumers cannot control products on the market that benefit them and rather let products take over that only benefit the corporations.

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#129 m3Boarder32

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[QUOTE="daytona_178"][QUOTE="2largeadults"][QUOTE="daytona_178"]
I was just wondering why Blue-Ray is so hyped up..... i mean iv heard it cant be read from as fast as a HD-DVD, and i know it has more space... but i dont think games developers could actually fill all that space up. But im not too smart so please tell me which one you like and why.
P.S. im not a Microsoft fanboy.... I have a PC, and a DS Lite... Im neutral!
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it doesn't matter which one you like hd-dvd is finished check the news

I guess this is the type of response i should expect from the sytem wars forum! I should have know better...

... That wasn't an opinion pal. Here's the link form since you aren't the sharpest crayon in the box: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2104850,00.asp

So HD-DVD is dead because Bluray has sold like 10K more movies?
I guess that means PS3 has already been burried since Xbox 360 has sold 10's of millions more games!

Give me a break...the war is far from over...You can't end a war with a software lead of under 10K..

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#130 m3Boarder32

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Blu-ray is better. If you say otherwise you're a tool to HD DVD. Blu-ray offers a better value to consumers and is an ever expanding technology that will always be one step ahead of HD DVD. Triple-layer 51gb HD DVD: who cares when its not even on the market yet and the current standard Blu-ray disc is 50gb? On top of that a quad-layered 100gb BR disc is on its way to the market and a six-layered 200gb BR disc is also being finalized. How can HD DVD ever touch that especially now that you can buy a $500 PS3 which is no more than the cheapest HD DVD player and movies on both formats cost the same, $25 - $35.

Blu-ray is simply the better technology, value and overall product for all of us consumers. If HD DVD succeeds it proves consumers cannot control products on the market that benefit them and rather let products take over that only benefit the corporations.
henry_the_horse

If Bluray is such a superior technology why do HD-DVD movies on average have more extras? And how is Java working out for teh superior technology?

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#131 m3Boarder32

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[QUOTE="DazKurupt"][QUOTE="orangeonxbox"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"][QUOTE="venture00"]Also HD DVD has better image qualityrage8669

No it doesnt HD DVD is officialy dead anyway when Blu Ray is slowly growing, more space, more movies, BD DVD is the future whether you want it or not

BS. To be officially dead it would need a press release from Toshiba. Also, lets not kid our selves here, both formats are a joke compared to DVD. Neither has 100% Hollywood backing, neither has sales that can match anything like those of DVD, and while fan boys of both bash each others melons in over who has the longest...oops I meant better system, 720p via broadband is picking up pace. I know system wars loves history repeats, but this one is the mother of them all; not Betamax vs. VHS, but SACD and DVD Audio getting their rears kicked to mars by iTunes because the people behind them would not agree and kept fighting. If both sides are still fighting this time next year, then it is thank you and good night to both of them, end of story. People will go from upscaled DVD to digital download and pass this nonsense by.

If that were to happen every device would need one of those 1 terabyte HDD's

also, everyone needs to have a high speed connection of at minimum 20Mbps for quality video. online distribution will not be full scale for another 5 years.

Batman Begins has average bitrates of 11Mbps, and movies are going to continue to look better and better with lower and lower bitrates.

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#132 Orpheus_1986

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beta was the superiour technology...look what happend to that liitle technological gem.

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#133 henry_the_horse

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[QUOTE="henry_the_horse"]Blu-ray is better. If you say otherwise you're a tool to HD DVD. Blu-ray offers a better value to consumers and is an ever expanding technology that will always be one step ahead of HD DVD. Triple-layer 51gb HD DVD: who cares when its not even on the market yet and the current standard Blu-ray disc is 50gb? On top of that a quad-layered 100gb BR disc is on its way to the market and a six-layered 200gb BR disc is also being finalized. How can HD DVD ever touch that especially now that you can buy a $500 PS3 which is no more than the cheapest HD DVD player and movies on both formats cost the same, $25 - $35.

Blu-ray is simply the better technology, value and overall product for all of us consumers. If HD DVD succeeds it proves consumers cannot control products on the market that benefit them and rather let products take over that only benefit the corporations.
m3Boarder32

If Bluray is such a superior technology why do HD-DVD movies on average have more extras? And how is Java working out for teh superior technology?

You aren't too bright, more extras doesn't mean anything about the technology. It's actually really simple. Blu-ray and HD DVD are basically the exact same thing as far as you need to be concerned, minus storage which BR is leaps and bounds above HD DVD. More space means less compression and audio & video closer to completely being uncompressed. So the lack of extras may have to do with BR focusing on the HD aspect of these next-gen discs by using the space for higher video/audio quality.

And for your last part about Java I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Java is working great with Blu-ray. Java is a great technology and its offering a grander amount of things for Blu-ray movies to do, specifically in the menus, etc. Not sure what you're trying to say there.

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#134 m3Boarder32

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[QUOTE="DazKurupt"]HD DVD vs Blu Ray specs : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/415/2rage8669

wow. that link is bs. first off, dual layer blu-rays hold 50gb, not 54 gb. second, buena vista doesn't support hd dvd because they're owned by disney. thirdly, disney does not support hd dvd.

Reign of Fire is from Buena Vista right??

Reign of Fire is on HD-DVD...

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[QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"]HD DVD vs Blu Ray specs : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/415/2m3Boarder32

wow. that link is bs. first off, dual layer blu-rays hold 50gb, not 54 gb. second, buena vista doesn't support hd dvd because they're owned by disney. thirdly, disney does not support hd dvd.

Reign of Fire is from Buena Vista right??

Reign of Fire is on HD-DVD...

Reign of Fire is not on HD-DVD in North America.

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#136 henry_the_horse

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beta was the superiour technology...look what happend to that liitle technological gem.Orpheus_1986

Beta is a little different. Beta was better quality than VHS but it had less duration. So if anything HD DVD is the beta of the past because of its lack of storage. Blu-ray's much larger storage not only offers higher quality but it also offers more duration. So Blu-ray is almost like a VHS-Beta hybrid in comparison; the best features of both squared and none of their flaws along with next-gen technology.

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[QUOTE="Orpheus_1986"]beta was the superiour technology...look what happend to that liitle technological gem.henry_the_horse

Beta is a little different. Beta was better quality than VHS but it had less duration. So if anything HD DVD is the beta of the past because of its lack of storage. Blu-ray's much larger storage not only offers higher quality but it also offers more duration. So Blu-ray is almost like a VHS-Beta hybred in comparison; the best features of both squared and none of their flaws along with next-gen technology.

Betamax was also a proprietary Sony format and they hoarded the technology. JVC was very liberal with licensing VHS and made it easier for studios and hardware companies to use the format. Sony learned their lesson and have taken JVC's method with Bluray this time around.

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#138 Random__Guy

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beta was the superiour technology...look what happend to that liitle technological gem.Orpheus_1986

beta was owned by sony ^ you beat me you bastard ^

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Maybe because it is.
http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
http://www.tvpredictions.com/bluraywins102306.htm

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#140 m3Boarder32

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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"]HD DVD vs Blu Ray specs : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/415/2ramey70

wow. that link is bs. first off, dual layer blu-rays hold 50gb, not 54 gb. second, buena vista doesn't support hd dvd because they're owned by disney. thirdly, disney does not support hd dvd.

Reign of Fire is from Buena Vista right??

Reign of Fire is on HD-DVD...

Reign of Fire is not on HD-DVD in North America.

So North America is all that matters in the format wars?:|

I think your logic is retarded, but regardless, i can still order Reign of Fire on HD-DVD, and it will play on my HD-DVD player...And i live in North America..

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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"]HD DVD vs Blu Ray specs : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/415/2m3Boarder32

wow. that link is bs. first off, dual layer blu-rays hold 50gb, not 54 gb. second, buena vista doesn't support hd dvd because they're owned by disney. thirdly, disney does not support hd dvd.

Reign of Fire is from Buena Vista right??

Reign of Fire is on HD-DVD...

Reign of Fire is not on HD-DVD in North America.

So North America is all that matters in the format wars?:|

I think your logic is retarded, but regardless, i can still order Reign of Fire on HD-DVD, and it will play on my HD-DVD player...And i live in North America..

I think you and I both know that the average North American hidef consumer won't be ordering Japanese imports when they can get a Bluray copy of the same move in the states. And it would be cheaper and faster by the time you factor shipping.

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[QUOTE="Orpheus_1986"]beta was the superiour technology...look what happend to that liitle technological gem.henry_the_horse

Beta is a little different. Beta was better quality than VHS but it had less duration. So if anything HD DVD is the beta of the past because of its lack of storage. Blu-ray's much larger storage not only offers higher quality but it also offers more duration. So Blu-ray is almost like a VHS-Beta hybrid in comparison; the best features of both squared and none of their flaws along with next-gen technology.

wrong. betamax lost because it cost more than vhs, just like blu-ray now. the movies maybe around the same price but the lowest cost hd dvd player is $400 while the cheapest blu-ray player is $600 (not the ps3, a standalone player.)

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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"]HD DVD vs Blu Ray specs : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/415/2m3Boarder32

wow. that link is bs. first off, dual layer blu-rays hold 50gb, not 54 gb. second, buena vista doesn't support hd dvd because they're owned by disney. thirdly, disney does not support hd dvd.

Reign of Fire is from Buena Vista right??

Reign of Fire is on HD-DVD...

Reign of Fire is not on HD-DVD in North America.

So North America is all that matters in the format wars?:|

I think your logic is retarded, but regardless, i can still order Reign of Fire on HD-DVD, and it will play on my HD-DVD player...And i live in North America..

i call bs. reign of fire was distributed by buena vista on blu-ray. it is not on hd dvd. here's proof

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#146 m3Boarder32

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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"]HD DVD vs Blu Ray specs : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/415/2ramey70

wow. that link is bs. first off, dual layer blu-rays hold 50gb, not 54 gb. second, buena vista doesn't support hd dvd because they're owned by disney. thirdly, disney does not support hd dvd.

Reign of Fire is from Buena Vista right??

Reign of Fire is on HD-DVD...

Reign of Fire is not on HD-DVD in North America.

So North America is all that matters in the format wars?:|

I think your logic is retarded, but regardless, i can still order Reign of Fire on HD-DVD, and it will play on my HD-DVD player...And i live in North America..

I think you and I both know that the average North American hidef consumer won't be ordering Japanese imports when they can get a Bluray copy of the same move in the states. And it would be cheaper and faster by the time you factor shipping.

But the main poit is. North America is not all that matters, Europe and Japan can get Reign of Fire on HD-DVD

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#147 m3Boarder32

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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"]HD DVD vs Blu Ray specs : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/415/2rage8669

wow. that link is bs. first off, dual layer blu-rays hold 50gb, not 54 gb. second, buena vista doesn't support hd dvd because they're owned by disney. thirdly, disney does not support hd dvd.

Reign of Fire is from Buena Vista right??

Reign of Fire is on HD-DVD...

Reign of Fire is not on HD-DVD in North America.

So North America is all that matters in the format wars?:|

I think your logic is retarded, but regardless, i can still order Reign of Fire on HD-DVD, and it will play on my HD-DVD player...And i live in North America..

i call bs. reign of fire was distributed by buena vista on blu-ray. it is not on hd dvd. here's proof

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=PCHE-50005

No matter how you slice it, Buena Vista is not Bluray exclusive.

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#148 ralphikari

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but i dont think games developers could actually fill all that space up.daytona_178

Yes they can!

while (fputc(rand(), ofDummyFile) != EOF); // There you go. :)

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[QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="DazKurupt"]HD DVD vs Blu Ray specs : m3Boarder32

wow. that link is bs. first off, dual layer blu-rays hold 50gb, not 54 gb. second, buena vista doesn't support hd dvd because they're owned by disney. thirdly, disney does not support hd dvd.

Reign of Fire is from Buena Vista right??

Reign of Fire is on HD-DVD...

Reign of Fire is not on HD-DVD in North America.

So North America is all that matters in the format wars?:|

I think your logic is retarded, but regardless, i can still order Reign of Fire on HD-DVD, and it will play on my HD-DVD player...And i live in North America..

i call bs. reign of fire was distributed by buena vista on blu-ray. it is not on hd dvd. here's proof

No matter how you slice it, Buena Vista is not Bluray exclusive.

that has to have been releassed by a different sudio because buena vista/disney onnly released it on dvd and blu-ray, not hd dvd. see pic.

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[QUOTE="dru26"]Personally I like the image quality of HD-DVD 's 720p, over Blu-Rays 1080i, but HD-DVD has no chance. Sony gobbled up too many exclusives.Runningflame570

Uhm...both formats support resolutions up to 1080P, do you have any idea what you're talking about?

Blu-Rays do not play in 720p, leaving most of us without 1080p sets to watch movies in 1080i. I own both an HD-DVD add on and a ps3. A little research never hurt, btw.

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