Why do the majority of people prefer gaming on consoles rather than Pc?

This thread is wrong from the start since more people play on PC.Arach666

[QUOTE="Arach666"]This thread is wrong from the start since more people play on PC.Decrate

Obviously System Wars represents the entire world.

Oh wait... It doesn't...

[QUOTE="Decrate"][QUOTE="Arach666"]This thread is wrong from the start since more people play on PC.Eggimannd

Obviously System Wars represents the entire world.

Oh wait... It doesn't...

[QUOTE="Darth_DuMas"]For example I saw the sale thread on steam today and was about to get bioshock 2 but at the bottom it says it needs games for windows and also installs secure rom. I'd rather pay a little more for the plug and play console version.Vandalvideo

Then there are the outsourced devs that do the PC ports. What good is it releasing a console game on the PC when they can't be bothered to do the job properly.

Games for windows has caused me issues in the past, on one of those poor ports Red Faction Guerilla, as soon as it kicked in on the menu screen, it disabled the control pad. That was one of the last times I trust console ports, this dev that was outsoursed took 3 months to send out one patch literally. One of the reasons for some of the delays was getting it through the games for windows process. Apparently MS need to review the patch it before sending it through their client.

I had to uninstall Crysis to get Windows performance back, so maybe drm does affect some people. But one of my points was that it is needless to have this on versions running off steam. Do those versions really need any other drm, or even Games for Windows which seems to be a waste of time on PCs. The point of live on Xbox is that everything runs through it and its the centre piece of the xbox experience, while on the PC its just an annoying piece of the PC experience, since it seems to be a half hearted attempt at the same thing. Steam is the centre piece of gaming for me on the PC, it works my games and takes care of everything, publisher nonsense and GFW on top of that just ruins it. Plus Ubisoft DRM, which definately turns me away from the PC versions of any Ubisoft game using it. And again i'm guessing the Steam version has it too.

I don't know what you're talking about with macs and bioshock forums :|.

Ghostbusters didn't even go into a game properly on my PC but since I got it cheap on steam, I didn't mind too much and let it go and I put that one down to me given the score, but I have heard it has some performance issues. Saints Row 2 is supposed to have abysmal performance on the PC and this is according to gamespot as well. Splintercell conviction, they said they made no attempt to adapt it to the pc so there was no difficulty. The force unleashed I hear is even more sloppy than the console versions.

And you say the ports are better, where a lot of the time the ports are direct and make no attempt to make use of PCs advantages so end up being the same game at better resolutions.

I'm sure the majority of ports are fine, but I never said "all" I said that they outsource the PC versions to lazy devs who don't do a good enough job.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]This thread is wrong from the start since more people play on PC.Decrate

[QUOTE="Decrate"][QUOTE="Arach666"]This thread is wrong from the start since more people play on PC.Birdy09

Seems like System Wars is populated by alot of teens.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]This thread is wrong from the start since more people play on PC.Decrate

I mean everywhere,not just gamespot users...

And that poll was added long after the thread was created, in every other poll I´ve seen here the PC always wins.

Besides,it´s one system vs three and it still holds it´s own,that alone should tell you something.

I prefer the games, I prefer a controller over a mouse and keyboard, I've always been a console gamer, and majority of my friends are console gamers.

Games for windows has caused me issues in the past, on one of those poor ports Red Faction Guerilla, as soon as it kicked in on the menu screen, it disabled the control pad. That was one of the last times I trust console ports, this dev that was outsoursed took 3 months to send out one patch literally. One of the reasons for some of the delays was getting it through the games for windows process. Apparently MS need to review the patch it before sending it through their client.

I had to uninstall Crysis to get Windows performance back, so maybe drm does affect some people. But one of my points was that it is needless to have this on versions running off steam. Do those versions really need any other drm, or even Games for Windows which seems to be a waste of time on PCs. The point of live on Xbox is that everything runs through it and its the centre piece of the xbox experience, while on the PC its just an annoying piece of the PC experience, since it seems to be a half hearted attempt at the same thing. Steam is the centre piece of gaming for me on the PC, it works my games and takes care of everything, publisher nonsense and GFW on top of that just ruins it. Plus Ubisoft DRM, which definately turns me away from the PC versions of any Ubisoft game using it. And again i'm guessing the Steam version has it too.

I don't know what you're talking about with macs and bioshock forums :|.

Ghostbusters didn't even go into a game properly on my PC but since I got it cheap on steam, I didn't mind too much and let it go and I put that one down to me given the score, but I have heard it has some performance issues. Saints Row 2 is supposed to have abysmal performance on the PC and this is according to gamespot as well. Splintercell conviction, they said they made no attempt to adapt it to the pc so there was no difficulty. The force unleashed I hear is even more sloppy than the console versions.

And you say the ports are better, where a lot of the time the ports are direct and make no attempt to make use of PCs advantages so end up being the same game at better resolutions.

I'm sure the majority of ports are fine, but I never said "all" I said that they outsource the PC versions to lazy devs who don't do a good enough job.

Darth_DuMas

-it;s not Games for Windows that's causing your problems, that's just a brand, a piece of graphics you put on box. The thing that's causing the problems is Games for Windows LIVE, different thing, GFW is a brand name, GFWL is a service. Fortunately it looks like even the few remaining supporters of this crap are giving up and putting one nail after another into GFWL coffin. Just this month two more devs annouced they are dropping it in favor of Steamworks.

-second, you are right that there are some sloppy ports on PC, but the same could be said about console games, there are numoerous cases of great pc games ported sloppily to consoles. Red Alert 3, CnC3, Tropicop 3...all vastly inferior on consoles...SupCom 1-2, they look like PC version on low..and with crippled gameplay. RISEN is yet another example, great PC RPG, but 360 version was outsourced to crappy dev and the end results suck like hell. So while it is true that PC sometimes gets sloppy ports, the very same thing could be said about consoles.

preference...nuff said

[QUOTE="Darth_DuMas"]

Games for windows has caused me issues in the past, on one of those poor ports Red Faction Guerilla, as soon as it kicked in on the menu screen, it disabled the control pad. That was one of the last times I trust console ports, this dev that was outsoursed took 3 months to send out one patch literally. One of the reasons for some of the delays was getting it through the games for windows process. Apparently MS need to review the patch it before sending it through their client.

I had to uninstall Crysis to get Windows performance back, so maybe drm does affect some people. But one of my points was that it is needless to have this on versions running off steam. Do those versions really need any other drm, or even Games for Windows which seems to be a waste of time on PCs. The point of live on Xbox is that everything runs through it and its the centre piece of the xbox experience, while on the PC its just an annoying piece of the PC experience, since it seems to be a half hearted attempt at the same thing. Steam is the centre piece of gaming for me on the PC, it works my games and takes care of everything, publisher nonsense and GFW on top of that just ruins it. Plus Ubisoft DRM, which definately turns me away from the PC versions of any Ubisoft game using it. And again i'm guessing the Steam version has it too.

I don't know what you're talking about with macs and bioshock forums :|.

Ghostbusters didn't even go into a game properly on my PC but since I got it cheap on steam, I didn't mind too much and let it go and I put that one down to me given the score, but I have heard it has some performance issues. Saints Row 2 is supposed to have abysmal performance on the PC and this is according to gamespot as well. Splintercell conviction, they said they made no attempt to adapt it to the pc so there was no difficulty. The force unleashed I hear is even more sloppy than the console versions.

And you say the ports are better, where a lot of the time the ports are direct and make no attempt to make use of PCs advantages so end up being the same game at better resolutions.

I'm sure the majority of ports are fine, but I never said "all" I said that they outsource the PC versions to lazy devs who don't do a good enough job.

AdrianWerner

-it;s not Games for Windows that's causing your problems, that's just a brand, a piece of graphics you put on box. The thing that's causing the problems is Games for Windows LIVE, different thing, GFW is a brand name, GFWL is a service. Fortunately it looks like even the few remaining supporters of this crap are giving up and putting one nail after another into GFWL coffin. Just this month two more devs annouced they are dropping it in favor of Steamworks.

-second, you are right that there are some sloppy ports on PC, but the same could be said about console games, there are numoerous cases of great pc games ported sloppily to consoles. Red Alert 3, CnC3, Tropicop 3...all vastly inferior on consoles...SupCom 1-2, they look like PC version on low..and with crippled gameplay. RISEN is yet another example, great PC RPG, but 360 version was outsourced to crappy dev and the end results suck like hell. So while it is true that PC sometimes gets sloppy ports, the very same thing could be said about consoles.

Thank you for a non defensive reply. :)

Yes I did mean GFWL, I didn't expect people would think I mean't the brand (others have pointed this out to me in this thread). It's good to hear publishers are giving up on it though.

I agree it can go both ways I just never really looked at it like that since I avoid playing PC games on consoles and console games on the PC. I just have an expectation of the entertainment on the different platforms and that entertainment is different too. Console games can feel too arcadey on the PCs and PC games can feel a little too serious on consoles.

Don't ask me why I feel this way its weired, because they're both machines, I shouldn't really affiliate certain experiences with either I guess. Didn't stop me trying them out on steam, who can pass up a good deal right? :P

But you're right.

So to sum up 56 pages: PC gamer - The Pc is the BEST! It does EVERYTHING! You're consoles are WEAK! Why do you even bother with them? Console gamer - PC's aren't the best. Getting games to run can be troublesome. They're expensive, user-unfreindly, patch heavy..... PC - NAI! I refuse to listen! PC is the BEST! Why do you bother with consoles!? Console - Sigh..... it's a preference thing. Does it really matter? PC - Yes it matters! PC's are the BEST! Consoles are teh SUCK! Why do you bother with them?! Console - *grits teeth* LOOK.... I just prefer after a long day at work just to come home, pop a disc in, and I'm gaming - simple. PC - PC's are the BEST! I don't care for your reasoning! PC's are the BEST! Why do you bother with consoles!? Console - o...m...f...g ..................? *walks away*Smileyvirus

[QUOTE="Smileyvirus"]So to sum up 56 pages: PC gamer - The Pc is the BEST! It does EVERYTHING! You're consoles are WEAK! Why do you even bother with them? Console gamer - PC's aren't the best. Getting games to run can be troublesome. They're expensive, user-unfreindly, patch heavy..... PC - NAI! I refuse to listen! PC is the BEST! Why do you bother with consoles!? Console - Sigh..... it's a preference thing. Does it really matter? PC - Yes it matters! PC's are the BEST! Consoles are teh SUCK! Why do you bother with them?! Console - *grits teeth* LOOK.... I just prefer after a long day at work just to come home, pop a disc in, and I'm gaming - simple. PC - PC's are the BEST! I don't care for your reasoning! PC's are the BEST! Why do you bother with consoles!? Console - o...m...f...g ..................? *walks away*Arach666

I know for myself that the console is cheaper, although not exactly friendly for the long run.

I personally prefer the PC because i take into account the long term.

So to sum up 56 pages: PC gamer - The Pc is the BEST! It does EVERYTHING! You're consoles are WEAK! Why do you even bother with them? Console gamer - PC's aren't the best. Getting games to run can be troublesome. They're expensive, user-unfreindly, patch heavy..... PC - NAI! I refuse to listen! PC is the BEST! Why do you bother with consoles!? Console - Sigh..... it's a preference thing. Does it really matter? PC - Yes it matters! PC's are the BEST! Consoles are teh SUCK! Why do you bother with them?! Console - *grits teeth* LOOK.... I just prefer after a long day at work just to come home, pop a disc in, and I'm gaming - simple. PC - PC's are the BEST! I don't care for your reasoning! PC's are the BEST! Why do you bother with consoles!? Console - o...m...f...g ..................? *walks away*Smileyvirus

Consoles have the best graphics, exclusives, online, extras, etc.tigertechie

This post makes no sense. Apart from the opinionated parts, how can it have the best graphics? :?

[QUOTE="tigertechie"]Consoles have the best graphics, exclusives, online, extras, etc.lundy86_4

This post makes no sense. Apart from the opinionated parts, how can it have the best graphics? :?

[QUOTE="tigertechie"]Consoles have the best graphics, exclusives, online, extras, etc.lundy86_4

This post makes no sense. Apart from the opinionated parts, how can it have the best graphics? :?

Consoles have the best graphics, exclusives, online, extras, etc.tigertechie

This post makes no sense. Apart from the opinionated parts, how can it have the best graphics? :?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="tigertechie"]Consoles have the best graphics, exclusives, online, extras, etc.tigertechie

This post makes no sense. Apart from the opinionated parts, how can it have the best graphics? :?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="tigertechie"]Consoles have the best graphics, exclusives, online, extras, etc.tigertechie

This post makes no sense. Apart from the opinionated parts, how can it have the best graphics? :?

Boosters?

You can have an LED HDTV with a PC as well.

[QUOTE="tigertechie"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

This post makes no sense. Apart from the opinionated parts, how can it have the best graphics? :?

lundy86_4

Boosters?

You can have an LED HDTV with a PC as well.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="tigertechie"] Because you can have boosters and have an LED HDTV.tigertechie

Boosters?

You can have an LED HDTV with a PC as well.

We're not talking about ease of use here. Obviously PC's are more difficult for the general population.

You said it has the best graphics, so why are you changing your argument?

[QUOTE="Smileyvirus"]So to sum up 56 pages: PC gamer - The Pc is the BEST! It does EVERYTHING! You're consoles are WEAK! Why do you even bother with them? Console gamer - PC's aren't the best. Getting games to run can be troublesome. They're expensive, user-unfreindly, patch heavy..... PC - NAI! I refuse to listen! PC is the BEST! Why do you bother with consoles!? Console - Sigh..... it's a preference thing. Does it really matter? PC - Yes it matters! PC's are the BEST! Consoles are teh SUCK! Why do you bother with them?! Console - *grits teeth* LOOK.... I just prefer after a long day at work just to come home, pop a disc in, and I'm gaming - simple. PC - PC's are the BEST! I don't care for your reasoning! PC's are the BEST! Why do you bother with consoles!? Console - o...m...f...g ..................? *walks away*lowe0

You forget also

Console: Im afraid of change, If it looks like any work I reject it, Then I bash it if it's is better then what I have. When Im presented with facts and others points of view I reject them while in denial speak falsehoods and half truths to make me look better while trying making my favorite console look better so I feel better.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Smileyvirus"]So to sum up 56 pages: PC gamer - The Pc is the BEST! It does EVERYTHING! You're consoles are WEAK! Why do you even bother with them? Console gamer - PC's aren't the best. Getting games to run can be troublesome. They're expensive, user-unfreindly, patch heavy..... PC - NAI! I refuse to listen! PC is the BEST! Why do you bother with consoles!? Console - Sigh..... it's a preference thing. Does it really matter? PC - Yes it matters! PC's are the BEST! Consoles are teh SUCK! Why do you bother with them?! Console - *grits teeth* LOOK.... I just prefer after a long day at work just to come home, pop a disc in, and I'm gaming - simple. PC - PC's are the BEST! I don't care for your reasoning! PC's are the BEST! Why do you bother with consoles!? Console - o...m...f...g ..................? *walks away*04dcarraher

You forget also

Console: Im afraid of change, If it looks like any work I reject it, Then I bash it if it's is better then what I have. When Im presented with facts and others points of view I reject them while in denial speak falsehoods and half truths to make me look better while trying making my favorite console look better so I feel better.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] You forgot: PC: You must just be too ignorant to learn to use a PC. I mean, I know I enjoy fixing problems when things go wrong, so that means you must enjoy it too.lowe0

You forget also

Console: Im afraid of change, If it looks like any work I reject it, Then I bash it if it's is better then what I have. When Im presented with facts and others points of view I reject them while in denial speak falsehoods and half truths to make me look better while trying making my favorite console look better so I feel better.

I still want to know what boosters are. I'm a 360 only gamer, and I want some boosters!Ravensmash

Now that you mention it, I also wan't to know what boosters are! :x

Simple, because I feel more comfrotable gaming one a console. I just don't enjoy PC gaming that much. I don't know why.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]I still want to know what boosters are. I'm a 360 only gamer, and I want some boosters!glez13

Now that you mention it, I also wan't to know what boosters are! :x

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]I still want to know what boosters are. I'm a 360 only gamer, and I want some boosters!glez13

Now that you mention it, I also wan't to know what boosters are! :x

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] You forgot: PC: You must just be too ignorant to learn to use a PC. I mean, I know I enjoy fixing problems when things go wrong, so that means you must enjoy it too.lowe0

You forget also

Console: Im afraid of change, If it looks like any work I reject it, Then I bash it if it's is better then what I have. When Im presented with facts and others points of view I reject them while in denial speak falsehoods and half truths to make me look better while trying making my favorite console look better so I feel better.

[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]I still want to know what boosters are. I'm a 360 only gamer, and I want some boosters!tigertechie

Now that you mention it, I also wan't to know what boosters are! :x

Why are PC gamers always trying to "Convert" or just talk down on people that don't play PC. Just play games on the system of your choice and be happy. Stop trying to convert people to just playing on PC.

Plus why limit your gaming to just PC when you can game on everything?

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

You forget also

Console: Im afraid of change, If it looks like any work I reject it, Then I bash it if it's is better then what I have. When Im presented with facts and others points of view I reject them while in denial speak falsehoods and half truths to make me look better while trying making my favorite console look better so I feel better.

Birdy09

Why are PC gamers always trying to "Convert" or just talk down on people that don't play PC. Just play games on the system of your choice and be happy. Stop trying to convert people to just playing on PC.

Plus why limit your gaming to just PC when you can game on everything?

CajunShooter

[QUOTE="Smileyvirus"]So to sum up 56 pages: PC gamer - The Pc is the BEST! It does EVERYTHING! You're consoles are WEAK! Why do you even bother with them? Console gamer - PC's aren't the best. Getting games to run can be troublesome. They're expensive, user-unfreindly, patch heavy..... PC - NAI! I refuse to listen! PC is the BEST! Why do you bother with consoles!? Console - Sigh..... it's a preference thing. Does it really matter? PC - Yes it matters! PC's are the BEST! Consoles are teh SUCK! Why do you bother with them?! Console - *grits teeth* LOOK.... I just prefer after a long day at work just to come home, pop a disc in, and I'm gaming - simple. PC - PC's are the BEST! I don't care for your reasoning! PC's are the BEST! Why do you bother with consoles!? Console - o...m...f...g ..................? *walks away*Arach666

Actually the guy is right on the money. Its the same ole same every day here. I really wish I had never found this place or any other forum for that matter. Its all bickering and aruging and b^&* and moaning and you are wrong im right ...I know the internet is the greatest invention in the last 50 years but its totally ruined my thinking process and made me lose sleep many a night..

I game on consoles (Xbox 360) because I have always played the consoles.

The general reasons in why people like consoles more then Pc gaming.

1. Its quick and simple to starting gaming.

2. The games that they like are only on their console or comsoles.

3. Consoles is all they know about, venturing to a different form of gaming is intimidating.

4. Fanboyism plays a big role in bashing, denial, and telling lies to try to make their favorite item be on top when its not.

Then general facts of Pc gaming.

1. Dont need a zillion dollar Pc to play games. A simple $100 upgrade on a 3-4 year old Pc can spruse a family Pc into a Pc that can game equal or better then current console graphics abilities.

2. Gaming on Pc has gotten alot easier with new OS's like Windows Vista / 7 , Programs like Steam unifying gaming into a single package like consoles do.

3. Pc technology goes leaps and bounds over consoles by the time a new generation comes out Pc is already there and will be ahead.

4. Connecting Controllers and TV's is not hard, but very easy.

5. Pc gaming isnt dying but expanding,

The general reasons in why people like consoles more then Pc gaming.

1. Its quick and simple to starting gaming.

2. The games that they like are only on their console or comsoles.

3. Consoles is all they know about, venturing to a different form of gaming is intimidating.

4. Fanboyism plays a big role in bashing, denial, and telling lies to try to make their favorite item be on top when its not.

Then general facts of Pc gaming.

1. Dont need a zillion dollar Pc to play games. A simple $100 upgrade on a 3-4 year old Pc can spruse a family Pc into a Pc that can game equal or better then current console graphics abilities.

2. Gaming on Pc has gotten alot easier with new OS's like Windows Vista / 7 , Programs like Steam unifying gaming into a single package like consoles do. 3. Pc technology goes leaps and bounds over consoles by the time a new generation comes out Pc is already there and will be ahead.

4. Connecting Controllers and TV's is not hard, but very easy.

5. Pc gaming isnt dying but expanding,

04dcarraher

Why are PC gamers always trying to "Convert" or just talk down on people that don't play PC. Just play games on the system of your choice and be happy. Stop trying to convert people to just playing on PC.

Plus why limit your gaming to just PC when you can game on everything?

CajunShooter

3. Consoles is all they know about, venturing to a different form of gaming is intimidating.

04dcarraher

4. Fanboyism plays a big role in bashing, denial, and telling lies to try to make their favorite item be on top when its not.

04dcarraher

I still want to know what boosters are. I'm a 360 only gamer, and I want some boosters!Ravensmash

:lol: Boosters. Wtf?