Why Do You Think "Crysis 2" Underperformed?

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#1 KevinPlanet
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The game had commercials running on a lot of basic cable networks. Hulu has the ad running nonstop. So how did a high profile multiplatform game that had a successful multiplayer BETA (on 360 at least), chart so low?

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#2 finalstar2007
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People got used to Call of Duty and Crysis didnt play like call of duty

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#3 SaltyMeatballs
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IDK... it was one of the later games I guess.
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Crysis is a PC franchise. Consolites outside of System Wars didn't know the game was even coming out on consoles or didn't know about the game, period. Regular Joe only knows about Halo and Call of duty, everything else is crappy. I'm pretty sure those that did know about it were PC gamers that were gonna get it on PC, regardless if it was multiplatform or not.
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#5 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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PC elitists on every forum whining about it made the game seem fail. But then again you have DA2, still I don't see how two worse games beat Crysis 2 in sales.
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#6 GTSaiyanjin2
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How much did it sell ? I dont think you can expect something like Crysis 2 to sell at the level of other high profile shooters. Especially on consoles since they are not familiar with the series. Homefront did better, because of the massive advertisement they did with the game. Even I was interested in homefront till I actually played the game.

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Crysis is a PC franchise. Consolites outside of System Wars didn't know the game was even coming out on consoles or didn't know about the game, period. Regular Joe only knows about Halo and Call of duty, everything else is crappy. I'm pretty sure those that did know about it were PC gamers that were gonna get it on PC, regardless if it was multiplatform or not.nintendog66
http://au.gamespot.com/news/6308732.html I think the sales were for all 3 platforms. Still the game was advertised everywhere, Homefront is a new franchise too, your statement doesn't explain why.
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#10 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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consoles SAGE_OF_FIRE
DA2 and Homefront are way more consolized. And worse games in general.
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Because it didn't have a lot of foliage.

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The game had commercials running on a lot of basic cable networks. Hulu has the ad running nonstop. So how did a high profile multiplatform game that had a successful multiplayer BETA (on 360 at least), chart so low?

KevinPlanet

because it sucks? i mean crysis 1 > 2 even in terms of graphics (imho) and it was released 3 or 4 years ago.

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]consoles ocstew
DA2 and Homefront are way more consolized. And worse games in general.

but they had a huge fanbase to back them up, at least DA 2 because it was made by bioware and it was the sequel to the awesome DA:O, i mean i got that garbage just because i thought it was gonna be half as awesome as the first one. Too bad i was wrong, and i can bet more than one person bought it for the same reason, we fell for EA cashing the success of DA:O

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#13 KevinPlanet
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How much did it sell ? I dont think you can expect something like Crysis 2 to sell at the level of other high profile shooters. Especially on consoles since they are not familiar with the series. Homefront did better, because of the massive advertisement they did with the game. Even I was interested in homefront till I actually played the game.

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I've seen more "Crysis 2" ads on TV than "Homefront" ads

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#14 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

The game had commercials running on a lot of basic cable networks. Hulu has the ad running nonstop. So how did a high profile multiplatform game that had a successful multiplayer BETA (on 360 at least), chart so low?

Krelian-co

because it sucks? i mean crysis 1 > 2 even in terms of graphics (imho) and it was released 3 or 4 years ago.

Yeah and DA2 and Homefront suck even harder yet still beat Crysis 2. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/33708/Saling_The_World_Crysis_2_Heads_Domestic_Multiplatform_Sales.php Compare these sales, where Homefront is no where to be found To http://au.gamespot.com/news/6308732.html Of which the OP is talking about
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#15 topgunmv
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Mention the game Crysis to people in the real world (outside these forums) and you usually get back blank stares. I think the majority of console owners had never heard of Crysis 1 and had little to no interest in a sequel to a game they'd never heard of in the first place. Also I think we're starting to see some FPS fatigue in the gaming market...thank God.getyeryayasout

I wouldn't be surprised if crysis2 ends up making less overall than crysis 1 when costs (development and advertising) are subtracted.

Serves them right.

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#16 IndianaPwns39
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Probably not a huge amount of people like this, but: I know about 10 people who won't play the game because they never played the first. A lot of people I know buy games for story progression or familiarity with the series. They know Mario, so they'll play it. They've played all the Halo games, so they continue playing those. The overwhelming conversations I have concerning Crysis 2 is a shrug followed by "Never played the first" so they don't care.

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#17 mythrol
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People got used to Call of Duty and Crysis didnt play like call of duty

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wut? Crysis 2 plays a lot like CoD. I think that is one of the main reasons it underperformed. Instead of trying to stay true to it's roots of a PC shooter, it tried to be CoD.
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#18 MIYAMOTOnext007
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The average FPS gamer wants a great multiplayer, not a great singleplayer.

Crysis 2 had a great singleplayer, not a great multiplayer.

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The average FPS gamer wants a great multiplayer, not a great singleplayer.

Crysis 2 had a great singleplayer, not a great multiplayer.

MIYAMOTOnext007
Explain DA2 then
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[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]

The average FPS gamer wants a great multiplayer, not a great singleplayer.

Crysis 2 had a great singleplayer, not a great multiplayer.

ocstew

Explain DA2 then

I clearly said "the average FPS (first person shooter) gamer"

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#21 Macka9000
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The game completely missed the point, and that's why they don't deserve sales.

I understood that they were going for an entirely new audience(PC gamers to mass market console gamers), but they have completely missed the point and haven't actually succeeded in meeting that new audience's needs. However at the same time they cut out what made the first 2 crysis games good.

The setting for crysis 2 is amazing. They really should have worked on this and created an atmosphere with amazing characters and story that drage you into and SUPPORTS the gameplay. Emotions tied to gameplay make a game much more fun than the gameplay mechanics on its own (look at the chronicles of riddick escape from butcher bay for a good example of emotions create by the atmosphere that are tied to gameplay)

Instead of focusing on this, Crytek have created an amazing looking atmosphere that doesn't feel as believable as it looks. It's empty and crytek should be ashamed at themselves. It is pathetic to say the least. They spent so much effort on creating this engine, and then haven't put it to good use. Shame on you Crytek.

I do however hope that some other skilled developer that actually KNOWS how to engage its target audience is able to use CRYTEK's engine. Crytek probably deserves money for getting this engine to work on consoles.

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#22 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]

The average FPS gamer wants a great multiplayer, not a great singleplayer.

Crysis 2 had a great singleplayer, not a great multiplayer.

MIYAMOTOnext007

Explain DA2 then

I clearly said "the average FPS (first person shooter) gamer"

Sorry my bad
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[QUOTE="nintendog66"]Crysis is a PC franchise. Consolites outside of System Wars didn't know the game was even coming out on consoles or didn't know about the game, period. Regular Joe only knows about Halo and Call of duty, everything else is crappy. I'm pretty sure those that did know about it were PC gamers that were gonna get it on PC, regardless if it was multiplatform or not.ocstew
http://au.gamespot.com/news/6308732.html I think the sales were for all 3 platforms. Still the game was advertised everywhere, Homefront is a new franchise too, your statement doesn't explain why.

NPD doesn't cover PC sales, and if they do(they may have started soon), they would only cover retail PC not DD, that we know is less 25% of total PC sales.
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[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="nintendog66"]Crysis is a PC franchise. Consolites outside of System Wars didn't know the game was even coming out on consoles or didn't know about the game, period. Regular Joe only knows about Halo and Call of duty, everything else is crappy. I'm pretty sure those that did know about it were PC gamers that were gonna get it on PC, regardless if it was multiplatform or not.nintendog66
http://au.gamespot.com/news/6308732.html I think the sales were for all 3 platforms. Still the game was advertised everywhere, Homefront is a new franchise too, your statement doesn't explain why.

NPD doesn't cover PC sales, and if they do(they may have started soon), they would only cover retail PC not DD, that we know is less 25% of total PC sales.

Hmmmm. Well that still doesn't explain why Homefront faired better when it's obviously the worse game.
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Everyone I asked if they bought Crysis 2 replied with "I didn't even know there was a Crysis 1" The first being a PC exclusive hurt the sales of the second. The PC fanboys are going to jump all over me over this but it's the truth. I really don't care. *Going to play Crysis 2 now*
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#26 topgunmv
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Everyone I asked if they bought Crysis 2 replied with "I didn't even know there was a Crysis 1" The first being a PC exclusive hurt the sales of the second. The PC fanboys are going to jump all over me over this but it's the truth. I really don't care. *Going to play Crysis 2 now*GoldenElementXL

Targeting people who didn't know there was a crysis 1 is what hurt the sales of the second.

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[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="nintendog66"][QUOTE="ocstew"] http://au.gamespot.com/news/6308732.html I think the sales were for all 3 platforms. Still the game was advertised everywhere, Homefront is a new franchise too, your statement doesn't explain why.

NPD doesn't cover PC sales, and if they do(they may have started soon), they would only cover retail PC not DD, that we know is less 25% of total PC sales.

Hmmmm. Well that still doesn't explain why Homefront faired better when it's obviously the worse game.

It was marketed much more and mass console players love shiny marketing, plus it looks and plays JUST LIKE Call of Duty.
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#28 exiledsnake
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There was way more hype for Crysis in the gaming community than Crysis 2.
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#29 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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I think Crytek should of made this a spin off, that would of pleased PC gamers and attracted console gamers.
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#30 AugustusGraham
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Crysis is a PC franchise. Consolites outside of System Wars didn't know the game was even coming out on consoles or didn't know about the game, period. Regular Joe only knows about Halo and Call of duty, everything else is crappy. I'm pretty sure those that did know about it were PC gamers that were gonna get it on PC, regardless if it was multiplatform or not.nintendog66
Don't blame 'consolites', A LOT of people played the demo and REALLY loved it. In fact a lot of people I know bought the game and liked it at first. They simply began complaining that the game was "Alright at best." and thats what the verdict is across the board. Deal with it. Game isn't that great

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Not many people cared all that much about the Red Dead games. Redemption came around and was purchased on the merits of it being a SUPERB game. If this were the case with Crysis 2, it would have gotten similar reviews, sales, and all of that. Game is B quality.

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#32 jjccjj92
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The average FPS gamer wants a great multiplayer, not a great singleplayer.

Crysis 2 had a great singleplayer, not a great multiplayer.

MIYAMOTOnext007

Its singleplayer was mediocre, so it failed on both fronts.

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Just like our old friend Alfred Wesker said:

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Wonder what Crytek will say when Cry2 sells less than Cry1.
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Wonder what Crytek will say when Cry2 sells less than Cry1. SAGE_OF_FIRE

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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Wonder what Crytek will say when Cry2 sells less than Cry1. slimjimbadboy

The pirates had allied with the ninjas to sabotage the foliage. Zombies could not be found.

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[QUOTE="nintendog66"]Crysis is a PC franchise. Consolites outside of System Wars didn't know the game was even coming out on consoles or didn't know about the game, period. Regular Joe only knows about Halo and Call of duty, everything else is crappy. I'm pretty sure those that did know about it were PC gamers that were gonna get it on PC, regardless if it was multiplatform or not.AugustusGraham

Don't blame 'consolites', A LOT of people played the demo and REALLY loved it. In fact a lot of people I know bought the game and liked it at first. They simply began complaining that the game was "Alright at best." and thats what the verdict is across the board. Deal with it. Game isn't that great

Not blaming anyone. I know the game is nowhere near as good as the original. Crytek wanted to get an audience that they can't get and screwed over their established fanbase, they'll get what's coming to them.
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The MP beta was the only "demo" of the game, and it was enough to make me think twice about paying more than $30 for it.

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#40 hypoty
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I don't know about sales, but after release week I noticed a dramatic loss of interest towards the game, not only on various websites but in the real world as well. I think that's because it was seen as just another multiplat shooter, and they're a dime a dozen these days. People still bring up Crysis four years after it's release, I doubt Crysis 2 will share that.

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It tried to be too much like Call of Duty, but failed.
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#42 Solid_Tango
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The MP beta was the only "demo" of the game, and it was enough to make me think twice about paying more than $30 for it.

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Same here, i played the demo on the 360 and was like heck no, and they tried the pc demo and was like ok a little better. I loved the first crysis and warhead but i had no interest for this one ( i hate that they made it into the city instead of the youngle) I was really dissapointed at the trailers and stuff, but i will still pick up the pc version in a week or two. A shame really this game couldve been alot better if it was PC only;(
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The game completely missed the point, and that's why they don't deserve sales.

Macka9000

That sums up my thoughts on the game.

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The game completely missed the point, and that's why they don't deserve sales.

I understood that they were going for an entirely new audience(PC gamers to mass market console gamers), but they have completely missed the point and haven't actually succeeded in meeting that new audience's needs. However at the same time they cut out what made the first 2 crysis games good.

The setting for crysis 2 is amazing. They really should have worked on this and created an atmosphere with amazing characters and story that drage you into and SUPPORTS the gameplay. Emotions tied to gameplay make a game much more fun than the gameplay mechanics on its own (look at the chronicles of riddick escape from butcher bay for a good example of emotions create by the atmosphere that are tied to gameplay)

Instead of focusing on this, Crytek have created an amazing looking atmosphere that doesn't feel as believable as it looks. It's empty and crytek should be ashamed at themselves. It is pathetic to say the least. They spent so much effort on creating this engine, and then haven't put it to good use. Shame on you Crytek.

I do however hope that some other skilled developer that actually KNOWS how to engage its target audience is able to use CRYTEK's engine. Crytek probably deserves money for getting this engine to work on consoles.

Macka9000
The environments are plenty believable. It's New York occupied by a PMC engaged in a rivalry between the US government. At the same time alien forces have spread a virus throughout the city, infecting it's citizens. They didn't miss the point at all.
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i blame the demo had a very negative response on all 3 platforms i think going for a sp level like the first would have been better but then again the levels lacked the openness of the first.
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It just isnt that good though its far from bad. It did modestly better than i thought it would saleswise which isn't saying much because i was convinced it was going to tank badly. In 2 weeks time i'll probably uninstall this and never miss it while the Crysis and Warhead shortcuts will still grace my desktop. But to answer the OP, they were targeting an audience that just didnt care about crysis while taking for granted the one that did.
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Not many people cared all that much about the Red Dead games. Redemption came around and was purchased on the merits of it being a SUPERB game. If this were the case with Crysis 2, it would have gotten similar reviews, sales, and all of that. Game is B quality.

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forgetting a crucial thing it wasn't called red dead revolver 2!

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It's called Karma.

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#50 Elann2008
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Everyone I asked if they bought Crysis 2 replied with "I didn't even know there was a Crysis 1" The first being a PC exclusive hurt the sales of the second. The PC fanboys are going to jump all over me over this but it's the truth. I really don't care. *Going to play Crysis 2 now*GoldenElementXL
I'm a PC gamer and I called this from the very beginning. The console gamers don't even know what Crysis 1 is.. So they're going to buy Crysis 2 knowing nothing about the franchise. Not a great way to sell games on consoles when it was an already established franchise on the PC.