Why do you think the PS4 is still outselling the XB1?

really? ive been hearing about horrible install times on the xb1.

halo mcc only took 20 min to install

Last gen honestly I think 360 had some great first party stuff early on then GeOW Judgment, Halo 4 and Fable 3 got mixed results and nothing good happened 1st party wise after that. PS3 on the other hand started out pretty slow but by the time LBP, demons' souls Sony was really building some amazing momentum but adding to that the quality and amount of titles PS+ was giving it was easy to be a big Sony fan. Xbox one has put out some amazing 1st party titles already and nothing of Sony's has appealed to me yet but there is Uncharted, Street Fighter, Tear Away and Ratchet&Clank all coming.

I guess I'd just say they just have great momentum and good with propaganda.

really what the **** has xb1 put out thats on pars with gears 1-3, halo 3/reach/odst, mass effect?

i see some shit ggame Sunset overdrive which doesn't appeal to me a shitty racer forza 5 was panned for being anti consumer, and dead rising 3 which runs at 60 fps on pc an doesnt drop anything like the bone version

what the **** has microsoft done on the gaming front? EPIC STUDIOS is not making that gears game, bungie is not making halo 5 (its some squad based shit game now made by a rainbow six dev or some shit)

you out of your mind

ps4 has the only good exclusive game that appeals to the hardcore pc gamer bloodborne xbone has zero and nothing coming in sight while i see ff7r and shen mue 3 lining up for the ps4 an last guardian and uncharted which is made by naughty DOG THE STUDIO WHO HAD MADE THE PREVIOUS ONES UNLIKE THE NEW XBOX titles.

Simply because gamers prefer PS4 over the other consoles !!

Graphics.

There are more gamers who console game primarily than own a gaming PC, and if you don't want a gaming PC the Playstation 4 is by far and away the best console. It's a king of turds, but a king nonetheless.

MS deliver a broken piece of shit that doesn't even work with 10% of its games it shows it was put in a rush to try to have something over sony,they are desperate and MCC and Gears collection prove that.

The games that will get support will be the ones they want,lol is call cripple BC.

Well it wasn't like they could not see it coming,shortly after the PS4 been unveil on February 2013,they confirmed that it would not block used games,fanboys here just didn't believe it because if MS was doing it then sony was to which isn't exactly what we have seen for generations,people still believe that sony change it mind on E3 after hearing MS conference which wasn't true at all.

The backlash was there people complained about those measures since they were leak on 2012 MS had all the time in the world to change them,but since most 360 fans put up with what ever crap MS did last gen they actually believe it that they could pull it off not matter the complains,the biggest outcry wasn't to know that the policies were real but rather that they carry on with them those features have been protested on forums since 2012 when they leak is not like they didn't have time i mean they change the policies in just a few months when they changed their mind.

Sony was everything MS wasn't but it wasn't hard since sony wasn't shooting for that DRM and those extreme policies.

All they had to do was say we are not them and walk away and would have win period,but in the end it was MS own fault because they did not want to listen now they are the best listeners. lol

Oh it shows kid...lol

Yeah no one care about anything but MS games that is the reason the xbox one at $500 dollars is killing the PS4. lol Oh wait is taking a beating Halo MCC charted 1 month and dropped like a stone,Forza Horizon didn't chart sunset over drive didn't chart yeah people love those MS games hell Forza Horizon 2 was on 2 platforms and even combined didn't chart..hahaha

MLB charted 3 months in a row..hahahahaaa

There are more regions that Japan and EU there is also other countries to and the PS4 wins every where including US..lol

Coefficient of imitation. Only the first movers really care about specs and what not. Most everyone else imitates someone else who has gone before. Absent a big differential in price, or a huge differential in named/recognizable games, the generation will follow the same basic trend of the last six months now that the initial launch and first movers is over.

I've never had a bad experience with my Sony consoles, so I've never had a reason to go the MS route. I don't play shooters or online multi-player so the bulk of MS exclusive games, and Xbox Live, carry no appeal to me.

Good marketing I think. It didn't seem to be a "video game console" as they historically are.....and it was cheap.

That's ridiculous. Sony is turning their customer into loyal customers because they offer a fantastic product. I'm not a brand loyal guy for the most part. I'm only loyal to three brands, and it's because I've been overly happy with their products: Honda for automotive, Mizuno for golf irons, and Sony for video game consoles.

Propaganda? If people buy a brand and have good experiences with it then I don't think you can call it propaganda. That's fan boy talk for when one's choice isn't doing well.

Lots of opinion there. Personally, I would flip the sign to ">". I couldn't even muster a **** to give about Halo, Gears, Forza, or Tomb Raider.

I would say it's first impressions and all the momentum afterwards. I was pretty much set on a followup for the 360 (my console of choice last generation) until the 2013 reveals and then went for PS4. I mean momentum could swing the other way. We will see.

Better gaming machine. Simple.

That green monster is going to cause back problems...

No, if that were the case then people wouldn't have bought a PS3 after the DRE problems on the PS2 or have purchased the PS4 after all the issues with the PS3. Hardware issues have nothing to do with XOne not selling as well as the PS4.

Haven't been around in ages. "Nice" to see that tormentos still is as deluded as ever.

I think PS4's success over Xbox One can be traced back all the way to E3 2013. Microsoft still haven't recovered from shooting themselves in the foot and getting slaughtered by Sony. Sony basically won over the hardcore crowd on that week coupled with the Playstation brand always having a foothold in the masses.

Many posters here have touched on it, but it is a combination of reasons really. The PS4 sold extremely well out of the gate, largely because of MS's poor reveal in 2013. The whole always online, drm thing has been a far harder image to change than even MS feared. A couple of weeks ago, I overheard some guy at Gamestop telling another guy not to buy an XB1 because it doesn't play used games. The stigma is still out there for a lot of buyers.

Sony really played all their cards just right. They abandoned their own drm plans when they saw how people reacted to MS's presser. They then pushed the whole 1080p vs 900p about as far as pr can be.

Another piece of the puzzle, is the simple fact that PS owners are fiercely loyal. The Sony fanbase does much of their pr work for them. I've run into people at both best buy, and Walmart who are quick to tell anyone who'll listen, how much better the PS4 is, and how the XB1 spies on you and doesn't play used games. Anyone shopping online for a console will find that the comments and review sections are filled with Sony fanboys spewing misinformation. Stuff like that certainly has an impact on the casual consumer. It is likely one of the reasons why games such as madden, fifa, and cod have more players on PS4, when the XB used to do better.

All that being said. Sony has lost some of it's initial surge. Over the past year, the year over year sales for the PS4 has been trending down, while the XB1 has been trending upwards. At this point they sell about 1/1 in the US. A year ago, the PS4 was selling significantly better than than the XB1 in the US. That trend started going down late last summer, and the XB1 sold far better during the holiday season months of Oct-Dec. Sony sold marginally better during the first couple of months of 2015, but has continued to slide. The XB1 won April by a small amount, with Sony winning May by a small amount. At this point, it seems they are selling at the same rate.

So to answer the TC question. The PS4 doesn't continue to outsell the XB1 anymore. At least not in the US. As for WW sales, Sony always sells better in europe. WW, the US has an image problem, and so do the products headquartered there. MS being a huge US based company has a bad reputation in many parts of the world simply because it's US based, and because surely no company could become that big without screwing people over.

You trying to compare those issue to RROD? That is a totally different level we are speaking of!

DRE was EVERY bit as big. Sony even got sued because of it. Sony's consoles have always been plagued with hardware issues. Not all at the same lvl but still issues.

So yeah, i'm comparing.

yea but then I have to wait 500 posts to use system wars. its fine.

Microsoft tripped coming out of the gate with all of their anti-consumer crap. plus the creepy as hell always on camera.

That turned many people off, myself included as I owned a m$ system as my last gen main console, but don't plan on owning one this gen.

Those things are still haunting them too, I spoke to somebody a few months ago who was thinking of buying a PS4, and 'I asked him why not an xbox1?' and he told me he didn't like that games were perma-locked to one system and you always had to be online.

Honestly, **** microsoft, I won't support them for even thinking those things were good ideas. I hope they crash and burn this gen.

Come on! nothing was ever as big as RROD! seriously Close to 50% failure rate was un heard of!

I cannot disagree with that. Sony crushed MS at E3 2013. So many mistakes made by MS; both in actual policy, and in getting people to understand what they were trying to do. They may not ever totally recover this gen. But, they have a shot in NA before it's all said and done.

That wasn't the case last gen. Microsoft's reveal pretty much killed them. I doubt they will make that mistake again though. The XB1 is still an incredible system and the games are just going to get better and better. Not going to matter much if they catch up to the PS4 or not. The XBox 360 and PS3 still haven't caught the Wii and they've sold over 80 million units each.

They don't like Western game consoles. Believe it or not the XBox 360 is the first western game console to break the 1 million mark in Japan. It sold 1.6 million units in Japan. No other Western game console can say that. The XB1 probably won't even break the 500K mark in Japan at this point. If Microsoft ever launches another console in Japan they should release it at 1/2 the price of it's competition at launch with at least 30 Japanese style games.

DRE was probably over 50%. The only difference was it didn't happen in the 1st 6 months of purchasing a new console but it did happen none the less. Sony got sued over it so my point stands. Hardware failures from last gen has nothing to do with Sony's success and MSs lack of this gen.

With the way Phil has been turning things around I think x1 will be back on top in near future.

Because consumers are smart and choose quality first regardless of price. The XBOX is a polished turd.

Why would a educated consumer purchase a chevrolet cobalt over a honda civic.

So by your theory, everyone should drive the same car, own the same TV, same cell phone, same laptop, same tablet and every industry should be a monopoly? Last year the civic was the 9th best selling car, the #1 was the ford F-series. silverado, ram, camry, accord, corolla, altima, and CR-V outsold it. So what you are saying is that sales =/= quality? Nice self ownage ;)

Really why would i have it.? I own a PS3 so if i need to play my PS3 games i use my PS3.

Sony should put out a banner saying ""PS3 STILL WORKS WITH PS3 GAMES AFTER THE PS4 LAUNCH ODD BUT TRUE'''

MS will never recover you freaking forget how crazy the damn PS2 sold and how Sony brand even on its worse days still manage to catch MS,The xbox one is $349 with 2 games and some new bundles claim Free batman as well as ASU and ASBF and still people buy more the PS4.

Post like this show how out of touch with reality some fanboys are.

1-The only reason the crappy xbox one took off sales wise was because MS dropped $150 dollars from the damn regular price in just 12 damn months,by month 7 it was already $399 and still was losing,it didn't started at summer in fact the PS4 outsold the xbox one on June when the XBO hit $399 and july and august as well,on september it freaking destroy the xbox one sales wise on US selling more than half a million units that month and officially doubling the xbox one sales,even that MS was giving freaking Destiny free and sony was charging for it,not even with free destiny people wanted it.

It begin to sell when it hit $349 with 2 free games and a damn $50 gift card effectively making the xbox one price $199 or less.

2 Games $110

$50 gift card so yeah effectively xbox one sold on November 2 and over were been sold basically at $199,if you take into account that you got $50 on the spot back and to free games including a damn hot new release from a popular series.

If sony would have do that it would have destroy the xbox one sales wise.

2-What the fu** are you smoking the PS4 has outsold the xbox one 4 out of the 5 months of this year that NPD has account the only month the xbox one won was April and by 13k,to put it on perspective on march sony sold 100k more than the xbox one on US..lol

So unless you live in a parallel universe where the xbox one outsold every month the PS4,you are full of shit..lol

DRE wasn't as big you blind fanboy and the Xbox,xbox 360 and xbox one all suffer DRE,in fact all xbox consoles have in fact scratch disc to,DRE was more common on PS2 than the original xbox because the damn xbox sold like utter garbage,i use to mod xbox in those days and the Thompson drives were freaking horrible and bad you can google it if you like.

DRE on PS2 wasn't even close to the damn 50% fail rate of the xbox one which some say it was even higher.

Off course it wasn't $600 1 year late..

Bullshit number pulled from deep deep down your ass,as always.

MS was sue for RROD they just repair the units before people started to round up.

They were sue for RROD and for the xbox 360 damaging disc.

That's it ^.

When the Xbone was announced it was an underpowered/relatively overpriced steaming pile of dump on consumer. MS tried to sell the thing with lies and deceit.

1. Xbone needs Kinect to function - LIE

2. Xbone will not let you share games - Later fixed after backlash

3. Have you seen Titan Fall??? - A symbol for the recurring problem of buying out timed exclusives leaving no real money for 1st party true exclusives

It's still suffering the backlash from these and so many ill advised decisions. Add insult to injury, Sony keeps getting damn near everything right with the PS4. Xbox can be $200 for all I care, but the majority have chosen the PS4 as their home.

@speak_low: The average consumer will not have a clue about games being 1080p/900p.

the average consumer will see that xbone downloads games slow as **** and installs them slow as ****, if they use it they see it literally and if a friend has a ps4 and gthey see how that one works differently they might want that one instead dont u think?

While they didn’t say exactly how many people were polled – just that they asked console owners over 13 – a new US survey from consumer report company Nielsen reveals that the #1 factor for people buying a PlayStation 4 was the improved resolution over Xbox One and Wii U.

Other factors for consumers buying the PS4 include the blu-ray player, game library, faster processing power, and “what family wants.”

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/02/26/survey-ps4-better-resolution-is-the-1-reason-people-buy-a-ps4/

@tormentos: I'll telly you why: because it is all over your posts. BC isn't even available yet, but you are all sour grapes about it because not every single 360 game will be available when it first launches.

You're so preoccupied with MS and the XBox One - perhaps you should just go out and buy one?

Is not available because it doesn't even support 5% of the games on xbox one..hahahhaaa

Only a handful of games and most with problems,but again how is that a big deal? How would that make me get an xbox one.? I already have a 360,so there is no selling point for me there when all my games work on my 360 without problems,unlike on xbox one which until now still is a empty promise.

BC is great the broken shit MS will deliver is not.

I dunno. moxy?

Just as big moron and you know it. Don't respond to me idiot. I don't care what you think or feel especially when it comes to anything MS or Sony. You're just a loser that lives in his moms basement and not worth my time.

They were able to do it with the 360 and first XBox, so why not with the XBox One? And that 5% is just the games that have been announced already. Everyone knows that the list will get better, you are just to big of a fanboy baby to admit it.

Again, sour grapes on your part. It's not MS's fault that Sony charges its customers to play PS3 games on a PS4. Deal with it.

I guess my question is..HOW do you know how many consoles are sold? AND how can you trust those numbers? AND I still hear more people out and about talking of xbox..so how does one really know the sales? AND anyone can fudge numbers all they want..

Because emulating a single core Pentiun 3 at 733mhz was far easier with a 6 threads 3.2ghz CPU and a much weaker GPU calls than what the xbox one has to do with the xbox 360,forget about the speed as it is irrelevant the architectures are different that Jaguar on xbox one is more efficient than the xbox 360 CPU,but in then end is a different structure.

But since not all games use the same amount of CPU is challenging,all xbox games used 1 core at 733mhz that all the xbox had,the 360 has 3 cores 6 threads no all games use them and some games also use it for non traditional things like AA.

Come on man the xbox 360 had better bc than the xbox one does.

Again there is no sour grapes dude it is broken as hell and even the games that do work have problems,but again how does that affect me,i don't need a PS4 to play PS3 games and i don't need an xbox one to play 360 games i own those platforms now.

Sony doesn't charge to play for PS3 game on PS4,PSN Now i a rental service and work regardless of you owing a game or not,and you don't even need a PS4 to use PSN Now,PSN now is not a replacement for backward compatibility nor is Backward compatibility is a rental service of games ON THE DEMAND much like netflix.

No is wasn't where is your proof.?

Link back up your shit...lol

Yeah that is what i though...lol

A year or two in it did - not when it first launched. A hand full of games and Halo 2 were all that was there.

Proof was in the lawsuit loser. Proof is also in AAALLLLLL those PS2's that that eventually suffered the DRE, pre slim model.