Why does Nintendo seem to have the most untainted reputation in SW?

I mean they have more of a history of mistreating people in general and making money grabs but people allways bash Microsoft and sometimes bash Sony as being to corporate... It is getting ridiculous as people claim Microsoft mistreated rare do to some fansite claiming so.

I mean Nintendo are known as the heralds of inovation and it is claimed that Kinect is a rip off of the Wii despite being revolutionary and using no buttons/plastic.

To me it seems Nintendo has copied alot more then the other companies and innovated more because they have been in longer. Nintendo stole the idea for CD's from Sega as well as the analog stick. Then the GC used dual analog (playstation) . The Wiimotes are wireless (360) The 3DS will have an analog and home button as a portable (psp) etc.

Achievements are supposedly to be stolen and put on the 3DS wonder what they will call them (Sony did trophies lol maybe they will be medals)

Some of the things you listed are just natural progression.

They also have the reputation of being the company that's done more for gaming than anyone else.

They also have the reputation of being the company that's done more for gaming than anyone else.

waltefmoney

seriously again?

please do some research.

Nintendo stole CDs from Sega when NEC was the first to introduce CD based consoles.. sure

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They also have the reputation of being the company that's done more for gaming than anyone else.

Banjo_Kongfooie

but the gamecube had wireless and was their own version if I remember correct and with the whole some 3rd party suing sony and microsoft for using their idea for wireless

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They also have the reputation of being the company that's done more for gaming than anyone else.

Banjo_Kongfooie

i freaking loled, have you not heard of the video game crash? alot of atari games were used as dumpster fillers(aka, garbage). nintendo got us out of that one

but the gamecube had wireless and was their own version if I remember correct and with the whole some 3rd party suing sony and microsoft for using their idea for wireless

Mitazaki

It wasn't over wireless it was over rumble. Which is the reason PS3 controllers didn't have rumble at first.

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They also have the reputation of being the company that's done more for gaming than anyone else.

HailedJohnDman

i freaking loled, have you not heard of the video game crash? alot of atari games were used as dumpster fillers(aka, garbage). nintendo got us out of that one

Yes and how did Nintendo get us out by none other than reintroducing Cartridges and basically copying the Atari but having quality control and good games. The carts still damaged the enviroment and NEC (though Nintendo was going to use CDs because their competitor Sega) introduced CD's which helped boom the industry as well

I'm pretty sure Nintendo got the analog stick from Vectrex, not Sega.

and I don't see how they're copying when dual analog is just based on analog/d-pad(as seen with N64, and the fact that Sony brought out a dual-analog controller after Nintendo introduced the use of Analog/dpad). which is strikingly similar to WASD/Mouse. (of course the analog has less accuracy)

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but the gamecube had wireless and was their own version if I remember correct and with the whole some 3rd party suing sony and microsoft for using their idea for wireless

waltefmoney

It wasn't over wireless it was over rumble. Which is the reason PS3 controllers didn't have rumble at first.

And it wasn't a normal controller. The 360 had wireless controllers standard as well as wired. I mean the DS had wireless abilities but not infrastracture from the start.

I'm pretty sure Nintendo got the analog stick from Vectrex, not Sega.

and I don't see how they're copying when dual analog is just based on analog/d-pad. which is strikingly similar to WASD/Mouse. (of course the analog has less accuracy)

HavocV3

The Vectrex didn't use an analogue stick, it used a joystick.

I'm pretty sure Nintendo got the analog stick from Vectrex, not Sega.

and I don't see how they're copying when dual analog is just based on analog/d-pad. which is strikingly similar to WASD/Mouse. (of course the analog has less accuracy)

HavocV3

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but the gamecube had wireless and was their own version if I remember correct and with the whole some 3rd party suing sony and microsoft for using their idea for wireless

Banjo_Kongfooie

It wasn't over wireless it was over rumble. Which is the reason PS3 controllers didn't have rumble at first.

And it wasn't a normal controller. The 360 had wireless controllers standard as well as wired. I mean the DS had wireless abilities but not infrastracture from the start.

the wirelss controller for 360 isn't standard either though.

if you meant that it had the infrared detector built into the console, then yes, you're correct in some way. but you can't give that credit to MS.

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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"] Which is subjective, I could say Microsoft pioneered the online gaming community we all enjoy today (used to be the splitscreen BS)Banjo_Kongfooie

i freaking loled, have you not heard of the video game crash? alot of atari games were used as dumpster fillers(aka, garbage). nintendo got us out of that one

Yes and how did Nintendo get us out by none other than reintroducing Cartridges and basically copying the Atari but having quality control and good games. The carts still damaged the enviroment and NEC (though Nintendo was going to use CDs because their competitor Sega) introduced CD's which helped boom the industry as well

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

It wasn't over wireless it was over rumble. Which is the reason PS3 controllers didn't have rumble at first.

HavocV3

And it wasn't a normal controller. The 360 had wireless controllers standard as well as wired. I mean the DS had wireless abilities but not infrastracture from the start.

the wirelss controller for 360 isn't standard either though.

if you meant that it had the infrared detector built into the console, then yes, you're correct in some way. but you can't give that credit to MS.

Um wireless was standard... it was one of the bundles ( sorry some companies give you options on features)

For some reason Nintendo alwasy gets a free pass and its the good guy out of the three. J-WOW

really a free pass? you must be new here, as there has been countless threads about how nintendo is killing gaming because of the wii, teh kiddie, the milkage, the no new ips, ect.

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i freaking loled, have you not heard of the video game crash? alot of atari games were used as dumpster fillers(aka, garbage). nintendo got us out of that one

kejigoto

Yes and how did Nintendo get us out by none other than reintroducing Cartridges and basically copying the Atari but having quality control and good games. The carts still damaged the enviroment and NEC (though Nintendo was going to use CDs because their competitor Sega) introduced CD's which helped boom the industry as well

I am saying the SNES and NES were not innovative and they stuck with N64 cartridges despite CDs being more ecofriendly (imagines landfills of Superman 64 )

I mean Nintendo copied the DS cards from Nokia's N-gage

I mean they have more of a history of mistreating people in general

The Wiimotes are wireless (360)

Banjo_Kongfooie

Nintendo's customer service is much better than sony's or MS IMO and the wii motes have to be wireless or people would be breaking their consoles all the time...

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And it wasn't a normal controller. The 360 had wireless controllers standard as well as wired. I mean the DS had wireless abilities but not infrastracture from the start.

Banjo_Kongfooie

the wirelss controller for 360 isn't standard either though.

if you meant that it had the infrared detector built into the console, then yes, you're correct in some way. but you can't give that credit to MS.

Um wireless was standard... it was one of the bundles ( sorry some companies give you options on features)

that means it wasn't standard:?

what if there was a Gamecube bundle with a wireless controller for all we know?

put down Achievements or something for MS, IDC, that can't really be argued.

[QUOTE="J-WOW"]For some reason Nintendo alwasy gets a free pass and its the good guy out of the three. Mitazaki

really a free pass? you must be new here, as there has been countless threads about how nintendo is killing gaming because of the wii, teh kiddie, the milkage, the no new ips, ect.

I think what he means is that many people here see Nintendo as a harmless kid that draws the same picture over and over and wants to do new stuff with the picture like add 3-D! but they are as much a Corporation as the other two.

seriously people, this whole thread is a joke,

i wont even start pointing out the flaws because il just be waisting my time.

the point is. TC didnt even give us any links, any proof, everything he has is some sorta alien logic to provide us with.

Supposedly, Nintendo are too great of a developer to ever be criticized, or are even capable of doing wrong.

Nintendo is probably the most hated on company out of the big three here on Gamespot.

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I mean they have more of a history of mistreating people in general

The Wiimotes are wireless (360)

Espada12

Nintendo's customer service is much better than sony's or MS IMO and the wii motes have to be wireless or people would be breaking their consoles all the time...

Okay first off I have seen the Dark knight so that picture does not scare me...

Secondly Nintendo's customer services are obviously easier because they are just a game company. I was saying as a whole Nintendo has done way worse then the rumored mistreatment of Rare people throw at Microsoft.

Finally they did copy standardising Wireless because Microsoft did it first (it doesn't matter if they needed to be wireless the fact is they copied)

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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

I mean they have more of a history of mistreating people in general

The Wiimotes are wireless (360)

Banjo_Kongfooie

Nintendo's customer service is much better than sony's or MS IMO and the wii motes have to be wireless or people would be breaking their consoles all the time...

Okay first off I have seen the Dark knight so that picture does not scare me...

Secondly Nintendo's customer services are obviously easier because they are just a game company. I was saying as a whole Nintendo has done way worse then the rumored mistreatment of Rare people throw at Microsoft.

Finally they did copy standardising Wireless because Microsoft did it first (it doesn't matter if they needed to be wireless the fact is they copied)

This is true. It's hilarious when people start going "Microsoft ruins developers, ruuuuun!" Jesus, Microsoft treat developers the same way Sony and Nintendo do.

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the wirelss controller for 360 isn't standard either though.

if you meant that it had the infrared detector built into the console, then yes, you're correct in some way. but you can't give that credit to MS.

HavocV3

Um wireless was standard... it was one of the bundles ( sorry some companies give you options on features)

that means it wasn't standard:?

what if there was a Gamecube bundle with a wireless controller for all we know?

put down Achievements or something for MS, IDC, that can't really be argued.

Yea but Nintendo didn't copy Achievements yet that was Sony.

And it was standard I meant that you were given the choice of two SKU's from the start.

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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

Um wireless was standard... it was one of the bundles ( sorry some companies give you options on features)

Banjo_Kongfooie

that means it wasn't standard:?

what if there was a Gamecube bundle with a wireless controller for all we know?

put down Achievements or something for MS, IDC

Yea but Nintendo didn't copy Achievements yet that was Sony.

And it was standard I meant that you were given the choice of two SKU's from the start.

well the 3DS is supposed to have them, so there you go. run with it.

I don't consider that standard though. it was standard in the one bundle, but not across all SKUs.

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that means it wasn't standard:?

what if there was a Gamecube bundle with a wireless controller for all we know?

put down Achievements or something for MS, IDC

HavocV3

Yea but Nintendo didn't copy Achievements yet that was Sony.

And it was standard I meant that you were given the choice of two SKU's from the start.

well the 3DS is supposed to have them, so there you go. run with it.

I don't consider that standard though. it was standard in the one bundle, but not across all SKUs.

Okay I edited to add that and it was a standard choice from the starting SKU's so it was standard

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Yes and how did Nintendo get us out by none other than reintroducing Cartridges and basically copying the Atari but having quality control and good games. The carts still damaged the enviroment and NEC (though Nintendo was going to use CDs because their competitor Sega) introduced CD's which helped boom the industry as well

Banjo_Kongfooie

I am saying the SNES and NES were not innovative and they stuck with N64 cartridges despite CDs being more ecofriendly (imagines landfills of Superman 64 )

I mean Nintendo copied the DS cards from Nokia's N-gage

And gamers should care about the enviroment why?

Okay first off I have seen the Dark knight so that picture does not scare me...

Secondly Nintendo's customer services are obviously easier because they are just a game company. I was saying as a whole Nintendo has done way worse then the rumored mistreatment of Rare people throw at Microsoft.

Finally they did copy standardising Wireless because Microsoft did it first (it doesn't matter if they needed to be wireless the fact is they copied)

Banjo_Kongfooie

That picture isn't intended to scare :| , BTW can you give examples of nintendo as a whole doing worse than MS? Please do. Also your last point makes no sense, I'll just say MS copied wireless from sony since sony had a TV remote first :|

I dont even know what to say here. Nintendo of all companies is no sacred cow, especially not here in System Wars, and I would love to see where you are getting all your information from.gamefan67

Here. :P

I dont even know what to say here. Nintendo of all companies is no sacred cow, especially not here in System Wars, and I would love to see where you are getting all your information from.gamefan67

notice that everyone els even ignored the TCs ridiculous opening sentences.

"I mean Nintendo are known as the heralds of inovation and it is claimed that Kinect is a rip off of the Wii despite being revolutionary and using no buttons/plastic."

Finally they did copy standardising Wireless because Microsoft did it first (it doesn't matter if they needed to be wireless the fact is they copied)

Banjo_Kongfooie

how is including something that is absolutley necessary copying? it's called progression and getting with the times...

and why on earth are you trying to prove nintendo is a bad company by saying "they did copy standardizing wireless".. :lol: so making something you already had a standard = bad?

now that's grasping at straws if i've ever seen it

I mean they have more of a history of mistreating people in general and making money grabs but people allways bash Microsoft and sometimes bash Sony as being to corporate... It is getting ridiculous as people claim Microsoft mistreated rare do to some fansite claiming so.

I mean Nintendo are known as the heralds of inovation and it is claimed that Kinect is a rip off of the Wii despite being revolutionary and using no buttons/plastic.

To me it seems Nintendo has copied alot more then the other companies and innovated more because they have been in longer. Nintendo stole the idea for CD's from Sega as well as the analog stick. Then the GC used dual analog (playstation) . The Wiimotes are wireless (360) The 3DS will have an analog and home button as a portable (psp) etc.

Achievements are supposedly to be stolen and put on the 3DS wonder what they will call them (Sony did trophies lol maybe they will be medals)

Banjo_Kongfooie

Many people don't even look at or care about Nintendo anymore so you don't see the complaints.

Kinect if anything is a rip off from the eye toy.

The majority of your gripes are not very accurate at all and most are things that are natural progression and just standard gaming things now days. I don't see how Nintendo copied sega on CD or analog considering the Wii is their first console to use regular CDs and Nintendo had analog before Sega, CDs are just a standard thing now days, it's virtually unavoidable, along with things like home buttons. GC's dual analog is not the same at all as the sony's, they always showed their own way in that. Wireless is another thing that has been stream lines but that was originally being done by the Wave Bird on the GC. 3DS having standard gaming features is not following PSP it's simply following gaming norms. IMO Nintendo has been the most innovative out of the 3 but many of these things were from PC even before a console(like a home button). IMO Sega was more innovative but Nintendo is the best with consoles now days.

XBL pioneered online console gaming??? Really? They were the first? Hmm...do you know what game this little guy next to my name is from? What system that was on? Analog,rumble, wireless are all issues owned by nintendo. Shortly after the GC made the wave bird(which I love) xbox made their own wireless for the first xbox then when the 360 was released they had the option of a wireless controller also, the wii only offered wireless and came out later. You are trying to say that because the Wii came out after the 360 they copied wireless when the xbox made wireless controllers after the GC, so I get this right? I know analog was in other places as well but as far as a major console goes Nintendo was first.

To me it seems Nintendo has copied alot more then the other companies and innovated more because they have been in longer. Nintendo stole the idea for CD's from Sega as well as the analog stick. Then the GC used dual analog (playstation) . The Wiimotes are wireless (360) The 3DS will have an analog and home button as a portable (psp) etc.Banjo_Kongfooie

Really, is that the best you can come up with? They didn't 'steal' the CD idea from SEGA. In fact, they were the last major console manufacturer to switch to CD/DVD-based games. This also was an inevitable step as cartridges were no longer sufficient to store games on. SEGA did not invent the analog stick.I even have an old NES controller with a very clunky, primitive analog stick.The dual analog gameplay itself is based on the N64 controller with its analog and c-stick controls. Even then, the GC controller still had a radically different design from the DualShock, so I don't see how that is comparable to making what is pretty much a carbon copy of the Wiimote + Nunchuck (Move) and downplaying the original as you go. Wireless technology again is only a logical step forward, it doesn't take agenius to invent something like that, it's just technology progressing logically. I even remember speculating on a wireless controller with my cousins back in the N64 era.Should I claim royalties now?That is ignoring the fact that the Gamecube already had a wireless controller (the Wavebird).

Companies always borrow ideas from eachother in whatever industry. There's a difference, however, between making minor adjustments based on ideas of competitors to an otherwise unique project, and directly copying that product in its entirity. I'm not saying that Nintendo has never stolen ideas, but your examples show a clear lack of research on your behalf.

Cause they went from a Card and Toy Shop to one of the Most beloved Gaming Giants today.

Oh and Nintendo was the sole reason for Sony to get into the Gaming Bussiness so yeah..

cd was being used by pc's long before consoles, then there was the sega cd, the amiga 32 cd console. We had wireless blutooth controllers on the mega drive that were half decent until someone stood in the line of the signal. Thing is....why should anyone care about who did what first, you have great systems to play on with great services and games and tech on all three, seems very fanboyish to argue about this.