Why does this get excused?

PS3 has so many HD remakes it got its own Wikipedia article

Why don't more people despise this? I'm not just talking about Sony of course, there's plenty of companies doing it and lots of the collections are on the 360, there's plenty of suckage to go around. We were given consoles with limited to no backwards compatibility and ended up with this instead, what a shitty situation. I understand that people didn't play some of the games and it's convinient to have them all in one place but in my eyes this is definitely one pretty big drawback to a lack of backwards compatibility.

Do you hate this? If not, why not? Will this continue next gen? Thoughts...

Its milking at its finest. The most ridiculous case is God of War. Sony does it too much, they need to stop with the HD collections and focus on new IPs (yeah I went there lololol)

There is nothing wrong with HD collections.

Name one thing that is wrong in having HD collections?

Its not SONY who is telling devs to make HD collections, its the devs and publishers who want to put them out.

Why are you blaming SONY?

Because this practice actually started last gen:

It's the end of the gen. Sony actually continues to market their past consoles to new buyers going into the next gen, so "compilation packs" get released to entice them. If you already own the games, no one is forcing you to go out and get them again.

And that is why Sony knows they do not need to include backwards compatibility because the diehards of the fanbase will keep buying the same game over and over again. No BC for the PS4 or PS3 ( besides the launch models) but they will resell the games digitally and all these HD collections.

[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]What can we say, Sony likes to rehash.charizard1605

And that's the reason why they put out a Star Fox 64 Remake instead of a new Star Fox?  Or are doing a Wind Waker remake instead of a new Wii U Zelda?

I understand those games have a bit more effort put into them than Sony's HD ports, but the same basic principle applies.  Nintendo is taking older games and releasing them again with a new coat of paint and some new features.

Yes, Nintendo does the same thing Sony does.  They do offer a bit more, but it's the same thing.   And that's not even counting the fact that some of their recent remakes such as Star Fox 64 have been pretty barebones in terms of offering new content.

A remake of an older game is not a new game.  It is taking an older game and updating it in some fashion.   If Nintendo only makes new games, there would have been a new Star Fox on the 3DS, and the Wii U would be getting a new Zelda this year.

Nintendo is just like Sony in one major regard.  They see money in taking their older games and redoing them on newer hardware.  There is nothing wrong with this, but its the same principle that is at work.  Nintendo may do a full-fledged remake, but its still an older game that is forming the core.   OOT 3D was a great remake, but it was still an N64 game at its core.   Was it updated and changed made?  Yes, but its hardly a "new" game.  It's an enchanced version of a game that is over 10 years old.

And one other thing I want to note, before you get on a soap box and claim that "Nintendo does only new games" I might wany to remind you that they did the Mario Advance series on the GBA which were ports of SNES games with some new features.

What's the problem?

No one forces you to buy them... but plenty of people want them, and Sony provides the option. Supply and demand...

Rocker6

Because it's not a terrible thing? 

I would love more games to be HD remade because playing PS2/Xbox games on a HDTV is really bad. You also can get collections of games, instead of just one or two random ones and missing out on a game in the series. Try finding some of the more rare titles out there is difficult. It's best when they just get re-released.

Now I don't know why Sony hasn't let PS2 games be bought on PSN and played on the PS3 yet. There are a lot of games that won't get remade but would be nice to play again.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

What's the problem?

No one forces you to buy them... but plenty of people want them, and Sony provides the option. Supply and demand...

charizard1605

I'm more for HD Collections then making crappy spin-offs or sequels. Nintendo would probably be better off doing more Zelda 3DS enhanced ports like OOT and Wind Waker HD for WiiU then crappy New Super Mario Bros. games IMO. At least you know you're getting quality games and for alot of people they'll be new.

Sony has only released 2 GOW Collections, Jak & Daxter, Sly Cooper & Team Ico. The other are done by 3rd Parties and most of those are on 360 as well. If people didn't play them on PS2 / Xbox and want to play them now let them.FlamesOfGrey

No they've released 3 God of War collections.

Edit: In the space of 3 years. Wonder when the next collection that includes acsension will come along LOL

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]Sony has only released 2 GOW Collections, Jak & Daxter, Sly Cooper & Team Ico. The other are done by 3rd Parties and most of those are on 360 as well. If people didn't play them on PS2 / Xbox and want to play them now let them.RR360DD

No they've released 3 God of War collections.

Side topic, is Ascension really that bad? Assuming it sticks to the formula and then iteratively improves it, it should actually be a fairly good game, shouldn't it?charizard1605

 

Well, to be fair I have seen people be serious about things like that, so I kinda fell for it.\

But yeah, I've seen some people on here make statements like that and they weren't trolling

They are 100% serious

caryslan2

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] If we are using the demand and supply argument, then the continued sales of the NSMB games (including, yes, the 3DS game too) demonstrates that people do in fact want more NSMB. Of course if you don't want it, you can always ignore it. There are a lot of other games you could instead buy.charizard1605

I think Ascension is a pretty good game.  I love the multiplayer, and the single player is pretty solid.  I loved the changes and refinements that were brought to the combat system, and I honestly think the combat engine is the best one in the series.   The story line is decent, although it lacks the epic feel that GOW III had.  Although, its pretty hard to top GOW III considering what happened in that game.   Overall, the story line is a bit closer to the ones in the PSP games.  Its a nice little story, but it feels like filler.  It's pretty much there to help explain why Kratos is busy killing everything in sight.  In general, I would say the storyline is better than Chains of Olympus and a little below Ghost of Sparta's story.

Overall, I think Ascension is worth the money.   The single player is still solid, and the multiplayer is a nifty little addition.  If you're expecting an epic storyline that beats out GOW III, than this may not be the game for you.   If you're looking for a solid single player game that has a decent story and some fun multiplayer, then I would highly recommend this game.

At the very least, I think its better than the two PSP games.   And those were great games in their own right.

Holy shit, look at them all. I do like these, but backwards compatibility is really nice.

I like them if I haven't played the games. If i've played the games, then I just don't bother with them, unless i'd like to collect them, or replay them at some point.

Because they're video games and I like video gamesBlabadon

you're winner

There is nothing wrong with HD collections.

Name one thing that is wrong in having HD collections?

Its not SONY who is telling devs to make HD collections, its the devs and publishers who want to put them out.

Why are you blaming SONY?

Nengo_Flow

I dont mind them but I do feel screwed that they took BC out so they can make these things. Also, if you are going to release a collection do it right. Dont release a collection with half of the content and then release another collection later with all of it.

And that is why Sony knows they do not need to include backwards compatibility because the diehards or the fanbase will keep buying the same game over and over again. No BC for the PS4 or PS3 ( besides the launch models) but they will resell the games digitally and all these HD collections.CanYouDiglt

Something that Nintendo has started to do as well and Microsoft will no doubt follow.

I like them if I haven't played the games. If i've played the games, then I just don't bother with them, unless i'd like to collect them, or replay them at some point.

lundy86_4

Seriously this, how are collections bad? the're not forced on you in any way, if you missed out on a certain series a collection can be really helpful.

Because PS3 owners don't buy their exclusive games very much Sony has a created a way for the few people who do buy them to buy them twice. :lol:

Sony has so many gamesHeil68

Sony has so many games, the barn is bursting brah. People want to play those older, world class games. It's a nice problem to have instead of only having 2-3 games to choose from. So in conclusion with should thank Sony for the games. thank you Sony. Heil68

They're making the best of a situation they could not have reasonably avoided.

This is only a cause for outrage if you are extremely paranoid about corporations trying to make a profit.

What can we say, Sony likes to rehash.charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]What can we say, Sony likes to rehash.I_can_haz

[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]What can we say, Sony likes to rehash.charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]Pretty ironic coming from a sheep.I_can_haz

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I like them if I haven't played the games. If i've played the games, then I just don't bother with them, unless i'd like to collect them, or replay them at some point.

Clock-w0rk

Seriously this, how are collections bad? the're not forced on you in any way, if you missed out on a certain series a collection can be really helpful.

It's been happening for gens though. Rereleases, ports, remasters... consoles thrived off of less than stellar arcade ports way back in the day.

It's a staple of the industry at this point.

I would want HD collections even if there was full BC. To me it's just like buying blu-ray versions of old movies I like, and in some cases, ones I haven't seen yet.

Slashkice

Whats the problem exactly?

I did'nt own a PS2 and have been able to enjoy God of War,Sly Cooper and Ratchet and Clank collections in HD and all were great.I will also be getting the Ico/Shadow collection.

Nobody is forced to but these,are they?

Do Sony put these collections out because they can't be bothered to make new games....no,they have the best first party in console gaming....so I'll ask again,what is the problem?

Its milking at its finest. The most ridiculous case is God of War. Sony does it too much, they need to stop with the HD collections and focus on new IPs (yeah I went there lololol)

RR360DD

>Forgets about the other GoW, Gears of War, which has had 4 iterations on a single platform.

I've no problem with so long as it's for a good game (see: Shadow of the Colossus/ICO collection).  They've done it for a lot of franchises, but if they're making money off of it, good for them?  It's not as though this is heavily taking away from the primary development teams.

[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]What can we say, Sony likes to rehash.charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]Pretty ironic coming from a sheep.jake44

[QUOTE="jake44"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Nintendo only makes new games.charizard1605

:lol:

Charizard knows his stuff. 

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]Pretty ironic coming from a sheep.caryslan2

And that's the reason why they put out a Star Fox 64 Remake instead of a new Star Fox?  Or are doing a Wind Waker remake instead of a new Wii U Zelda?

I understand those games have a bit more effort put into them than Sony's HD ports, but the same basic principle applies.  Nintendo is taking older games and releasing them in the future with a new coat of paint and new features.

Yes, Nintendo does the same thing Sony does.  They do offer a bit more, but it's the same thing.   And that's not even counting the fact that some of their recent remakes such as Star Fox 64 have been pretty barebones in terms of offering new content.

A remake of an older game is not a new game.  It is taking an older game and updating it in some fashion.   If Nintendo only makes new games, there would have been a new Star Fox on the 3DS, and the Wii U would be getting a new Zelda this year.

Nintendo is just like Sony in one major regard.  They see money in taking their older games and redoing them on newer hardware.  There is nothing wrong with this, but its the same principle that is at work.  Nintendo may do a full-fledged remake, but its still an older game that is forming the core.   OOT 3D was a great remake, but it was still an N64 game at its core.   Was it updated and changed made?  Yes, but its hardly a "new" game.  It's an enchanced version of a game that is over 10 years old.

And one other thing I want to note, before you get on a soap box and claim that "Nintendo does only new games" I might wany to remind you that they did the Mario Advance series on the GBA which were ports of SNES games with some new features.