I'll care about pc gaming when they get all my favourite franchises, untill then, why should I care?
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I'll care about pc gaming when they get all my favourite franchises, untill then, why should I care?
[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]
I haven't had a blue screen of death since the first iteration of windows XP
and really? that's their defense? an error that can be skipped by pressing enter or restarting the computer?
godzillavskong
At least a PC can actually work after crashing unlike some other platform I know >.>
Neither of my 3 consoles(360,PS3,Wii) have ever "crashed". I think if the 360 "crashes" it's covered for 3yrs, while the PS3, or Wii hardly ever have that issue. Freezing counts as crashing. My PS3 has crashed 3 times.[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]Neither of my 3 consoles(360,PS3,Wii) have ever "crashed". I think if the 360 "crashes" it's covered for 3yrs, while the PS3, or Wii hardly ever have that issue. Freezing counts as crashing. My PS3 has crashed 3 times. Hmm...never had that issue. I'm aware of what crashing means, it's just that I haven't experienced it on my systems.At least a PC can actually work after crashing unlike some other platform I know >.>
DragonfireXZ95
Freezing counts as crashing. My PS3 has crashed 3 times. Hmm...never had that issue. I'm aware of what crashing means, it's just that I haven't experienced it on my systems. bs.[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="godzillavskong"]Neither of my 3 consoles(360,PS3,Wii) have ever "crashed". I think if the 360 "crashes" it's covered for 3yrs, while the PS3, or Wii hardly ever have that issue.godzillavskong
Freezing counts as crashing. My PS3 has crashed 3 times. Hmm...never had that issue. I'm aware of what crashing means, it's just that I haven't experienced it on my systems. It froze during Demon's Souls 1 time. Froze during Uncharted 2 another time and during MGS4 once too.[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="godzillavskong"]Neither of my 3 consoles(360,PS3,Wii) have ever "crashed". I think if the 360 "crashes" it's covered for 3yrs, while the PS3, or Wii hardly ever have that issue.godzillavskong
It is amusing to see so many serious responses.
whiskeystrike
gaming is SUUURIOUS bizness, especially to pc fanboys. i mean, how can you possibly consider yourself a grown man unless you exclusively play your video games on a personal computer? again, serious business...
Freezing counts as crashing. My PS3 has crashed 3 times. Hmm...never had that issue. I'm aware of what crashing means, it's just that I haven't experienced it on my systems.[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="godzillavskong"]Neither of my 3 consoles(360,PS3,Wii) have ever "crashed". I think if the 360 "crashes" it's covered for 3yrs, while the PS3, or Wii hardly ever have that issue.godzillavskong
I have also experienced crashing on my PS3. I've crashed on RDR, L.A. Noire, and Killzone 3
[QUOTE="IBeVanquished"]Once pc get some quality games, I will admit defeat. Been waiting for some since my apple IIc I got in 1984. Consoles reign supreme.slvrraven9fail. MORE HIGH SCORING EXCLUSIVES THAN THE CONSOLES!!!!!!! not to mention a MUCH bigger library... I can agree with you there. While the vast majority of my gaming is done on consoles, there seem to be much more games available on PC. The amount of games on Steam alone is very impressive. Not to mention at least they do give you some free ones! It's almost like you will never get a free game on consoles.
[QUOTE="topgunmv"]
[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]
- Huge thriving online communities: On the PC you can easily find players on games that are really really old. On the consoles you can't even find online players for one year old games.
- More connection options: I can play with my friends via the Net or I can organize a LAN party in my place. Split-screens seem intolerable compared to this luxury.
- Better graphics: The PC has better graphics like they always had. Someone who compares a Crysis game to a Uncharted 3/Gears of War 3 game and you'll see it.
- More games and better games: The games on consoles are meant to be simple and exciting. The real depth in games is on the PC.
- Moding: The PC gamers can create their own content to implement on which game they want.
- Free play: There is a huge number of multi-player free games available online.
- More online players: PC multiplayer games can hosthundreds of gamers simultaneously, there are no Massive Multiplayer console games.
- Cheaper games: The games are way cheaper, even those sold on retail go to the max of 75$. Console games can go up to 100$.
razgriz_101
Hold on while I get a microscope so I can read this.
also gotta laugh at his points about music declining in popularity considering live music revenues have went up and a lot of sales of merchandise and CD's bought straight from the band arent factored into the whole scheme of things.
It might say on there that recorded music is slumping but its commonplace to find folks still buying CD's at gigs.
then you have the fact there are so many statistics in that picture that are mislabeled, misconstrued or downright lies.Why can't PC gamers admit they are in the minority and that consoles are the future and are what push the industry forward, not their precious PC that they spend hundreds of dollars on and countless hours all for a slighlty better perfomance for their life partner, then feelin insecure about it and go around bragging about it to others and putting them down. If PC gamin is so great, why do you guys spend so much time on forums talking about it instead of actually PLAYING it? I know the reason why, but I'm not going to say it because it would hurt your feelings and you would do Dmage Control and deny it.
Hermits downplay so much about PC gaming, it isn't worth the hassle or the money IMO. Anyone who is honest about PC gaming knows what I'm talking about, I wanted to play Witcher 2 so I had to upgrade and to do that I had to spend alot of money and time tracking down all these parts and then it was a pain in the ass to get them to work right because it kept saying "please install something something compatible error" followed by a bunch of numbers. Now since I upgraded I can't play some of my older games, also mods are overrated, they don't work right most of the time and alot of them have bugs and alot of them are stupid like Nude mods, which are made by losers for losers.
Consoles you simply turn on and play, Hermits have to spend hours and money to upgrade and tweak befor they can even play their game. It's not worth it, also PC gamers are by FAR the most insecure group on here. I would be too if I wasted all that money and time when I could spend it on better things.
Oh and another thing, Consoles push the industry forward. When Gears came out we started to see games with better graphics. When Uncharted came out same thing, and console games revolutionise the industry, not PC. Also keep in mind consoles are where the money is at, PC is a very small market and most of the games get pirated anyway.
It's easy to understand why devs are abandoning the platform, they want to get paid for thier work! Could you imagine if say RDR was on PC only? Rockstar would have gone out of business just like any dev who would do that. There is a reason why all the PC only devs are small, there is no money involved.
If you want to make a starve to death and lose your job, you make a game for PC. If you want to makea living and feed your family, you bring it to consoles. It's the cold hard truth....
[QUOTE="IBeVanquished"]Once pc get some quality games, I will admit defeat. Been waiting for some since my apple IIc I got in 1984. Consoles reign supreme.Jebus213PC doesn't have quality games? he's joking lol.
Why can't PC gamers admit they are in the minority and that consoles are the future and are what push the industry forward,
ShadowMoses900
Prove they're in the minority. The consoles have largely had things that existed on the PC first. The consoles have started to come into their own as of late, however they still largely co-exist with the PC.
not their precious PC that they spend hundreds of dollars on and countless hours all for a slighlty better perfomance for their life partner, then feelin insecure about it and go around bragging about it to others and putting them down. If PC gamin is so great, why do you guys spend so much time on forums talking about it instead of actually PLAYING it? I know the reason why, but I'm not going to say it because it would hurt your feelings and you would do Dmage Control and deny it.
ShadowMoses900
If the PS3 is so great, why do you spend so much time on a forum instead of actually playing it? People have interests outside of playing their systems chum.
State the reason.
Hermits downplay so much about PC gaming, it isn't worth the hassle or the money IMO. Anyone who is honest about PC gaming knows what I'm talking about, I wanted to play Witcher 2 so I had to upgrade and to do that I had to spend alot of money and time tracking down all these parts and then it was a pain in the ass to get them to work right because it kept saying "please install something something compatible error" followed by a bunch of numbers. Now since I upgraded I can't play some of my older games, also mods are overrated, they don't work right most of the time and alot of them have bugs and alot of them are stupid like Nude mods, which are made by losers for losers.
ShadowMoses900
Upgrading is fairly painless. My brother just upgraded to a 560TI and all I did was uninstall the drivers, remove the old card, place in the new card and install the newest drivers. Done and done.
Just like the vast majority of games that are released suck. However, good mods exist.
Consoles you simply turn on and play, Hermits have to spend hours and money to upgrade and tweak befor they can even play their game. It's not worth it, also PC gamers are by FAR the most insecure group on here. I would be too if I wasted all that money and time when I could spend it on better things.
ShadowMoses900
I only ever turn my PC on and play a game. In fact, it actually boots just as fast as my 360, due to the dash taking so long to load. It boots only a little slower than my PS3.
You say they are the most insecure group on here, yet you feel the need to bash them and bring them down. I would say that some Hermits aren't the only ones who are insecure.
[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]
Of course, nothing else boasts superiority than having a system that plays video games better than other systems.
Probably the saddest thing about PC gamers is that some of them don't realize how sad that is :P
el3m2tigre
And what about consolites that constantly visit graphics comparing sites like Lense of Truth? PC gamers aren't the only ones that go gaga over graphics. Fanboys, mostly lemmins, brag about how 99% of multiplats are superior on 360 and inferior on PS3, even though the difference is minimal at best. Personally, i find that even more pathetic.
Oh those are pretty bad too, no doubt about that. But can you really say that PC gamers don't go crazy over graphics? A little while ago there was a thread that was strictly showcasing graphically modded PC games. Recently there was a comparison thread between Uncharted 3 and the HL2 Cinematic Mod. PC gamers like to say they don't care about graphics, but that's bull. They do, and it's funny how they deny it, really. No doubt that the PC will always deliver the sharper, smoother experience graphically, not to mention the other capabilities that the platform provides. But some genuinely think that they're better than console gamers because of this. And that right there, is more pathetic than the petty differences console gamers argue about.[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]Well, then you should have no trouble countering my argument that there is no best system and that they all involve tradeoffs. I'll wait.Console games need to surrender and leave SW, simply because they can't win any argument.
lowe0
PC don't involve any tradeoffs, it is simply the superior system to play games.
Well, then you should have no trouble countering my argument that there is no best system and that they all involve tradeoffs. I'll wait.[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]
Console games need to surrender and leave SW, simply because they can't win any argument.
MK-Professor
PC don't involve any tradeoffs, it is simply the superior system to play games.
i dont get the whole superiority arguement there is tradeoffs like more expensive components to get the best out a newer game, drivers and some of the pretty draconian DRM systems.
Well, then you should have no trouble countering my argument that there is no best system and that they all involve tradeoffs. I'll wait.[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]
Console games need to surrender and leave SW, simply because they can't win any argument.
MK-Professor
PC don't involve any tradeoffs, it is simply the superior system to play games.
:roll: You really can't think of any tradeoffs? That seems unlikely.
Oh and another thing, Consoles push the industry forward. When Gears came out we started to see games with better graphics. When Uncharted came out same thing, and console games revolutionise the industry, not PC. Also keep in mind consoles are where the money is at, PC is a very small market and most of the games get pirated anyway.
ShadowMoses900
They push the industry forward by largely using things that have existed on the PC? Even motion controls have existed on the PC before they became popular.
If consoles were where the money was at, why are there so many PC developers? Many aren't even small. Prove that the PC is a small market.
It's easy to understand why devs are abandoning the platform, they want to get paid for thier work! Could you imagine if say RDR was on PC only? Rockstar would have gone out of business just like any dev who would do that. There is a reason why all the PC only devs are small, there is no money involved.
ShadowMoses900
The developers are largely going multiplat. Even devs that moved away from the PC due to things like piracy (Epic Games and Crytek) still develop for the PC.
If you want to make a starve to death and lose your job, you make a game for PC. If you want to makea living and feed your family, you bring it to consoles. It's the cold hard truth....
ShadowMoses900
Tell that to Valve or Blizzard. Heck, how about Bioware or EA. Maybe Activision. Oh wait, they're loving the PC market. Kotick stated that 70% of Activision's operating profit comes from "Non-console-based" games ((link).
Well, then you should have no trouble countering my argument that there is no best system and that they all involve tradeoffs. I'll wait.[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]
Console games need to surrender and leave SW, simply because they can't win any argument.
MK-Professor
PC don't involve any tradeoffs, it is simply the superior system to play games.
Then you should have no trouble refuting the specific tradeoffs I listed in my earlier post. Simply saying "what tradeoffs?" does not constitute a counter argument.Quit bringing in logic and well thought out statements lundy. This is system wars not truth wars. (good one bro)... I'm waiting now for someone to try to argue against you with vgchartz lol.. It will be the 3d day if it happens lol...
Quit bringing in logic and well thought out statements lundy. This is system wars not truth wars. (good one bro)... I'm waiting now for someone to try to argue against you with vgchartz now lol..jedikevin2
Hey, I don't mind people criticizing when they have a sound point. However, when people just spout nonsense which has little to back it up, it just makes me cringe :P
[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]Quit bringing in logic and well thought out statements lundy. This is system wars not truth wars. (good one bro)... I'm waiting now for someone to try to argue against you with vgchartz now lol..lundy86_4
Hey, I don't mind people criticizing when they have a sound point. However, when people just spout nonsense which has little to back it up, it just makes me cringe :P
Just by the last sentence you quoted of Shadowmoses you should know he's not serious. :P
[QUOTE="archvile_78"]
Just by the last sentence you quoted of Shadowmoses you should know he's not serious. :P
lundy86_4
I've known him to troll a lot, but he is serious on occasion. We shall see how serious this post was soon enough :P
True, though i have difficulty taking him seriously ever since that "PS3 is for cool people" topic. Haha
[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"][QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]
Of course, nothing else boasts superiority than having a system that plays video games better than other systems.
Probably the saddest thing about PC gamers is that some of them don't realize how sad that is :P
drinkerofjuice
And what about consolites that constantly visit graphics comparing sites like Lense of Truth? PC gamers aren't the only ones that go gaga over graphics. Fanboys, mostly lemmins, brag about how 99% of multiplats are superior on 360 and inferior on PS3, even though the difference is minimal at best. Personally, i find that even more pathetic.
Oh those are pretty bad too, no doubt about that. But can you really say that PC gamers don't go crazy over graphics? A little while ago there was a thread that was strictly showcasing graphically modded PC games. Recently there was a comparison thread between Uncharted 3 and the HL2 Cinematic Mod. PC gamers like to say they don't care about graphics, but that's bull. They do, and it's funny how they deny it, really. No doubt that the PC will always deliver the sharper, smoother experience graphically, not to mention the other capabilities that the platform provides. But some genuinely think that they're better than console gamers because of this. And that right there, is more pathetic than the petty differences console gamers argue about.But of course. The only reason anyone would play on a PC is for better performance. Oh, i know who you're talking about...Yeah that guy is pretty annoying.
they're still gon come back with the same dumbass reply every time: a gaming PC cost $2000, i like to play with a gamepad, and i'd rather sit on my couch. so consoles are better!It's a pointless battle that console peasants refuse to give up. PC has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined :lol:
Snyper007-2
we've all seen the argument from there: wrong, so can i, and so can i. but mine looks way better, plays way better, and can do infinite times more.
i don't see why it's so hard to admit PC is much better. bet they go argue their lil corolla is better than the ferrari down the street too.
I've never read such a bold faced lie.I only ever turn my PC on and play a game. In fact, it actually boots just as fast as my 360, due to the dash taking so long to load. It boots only a little slower than my PS3.lundy86_4
I've never read such a bold faced lie.How is it a lie? :?[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]
I only ever turn my PC on and play a game. In fact, it actually boots just as fast as my 360, due to the dash taking so long to load. It boots only a little slower than my PS3.WilliamRLBaker
i don't see why it's so hard to admit PC is much better. bet they go argue their lil corolla is better than the ferrari down the street too.
elessarGObonzo
lol
one of the most ridiculous comparisons i've ever read
I've never read such a bold faced lie.[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]
I only ever turn my PC on and play a game. In fact, it actually boots just as fast as my 360, due to the dash taking so long to load. It boots only a little slower than my PS3.WilliamRLBaker
Really? I put my PC in hibernate/sleep. It takes all of a few seconds to boot up. I have no need to fully shut down my computer. If you're gonna accuse someone of lying dude, you'd best outline why, and then actually prove it.
I've never read such a bold faced lie. It's possible. My 360 and PC boot in about the same time. However, like the 360 and its flash, my PC has a small SSD for the OS.[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]
I only ever turn my PC on and play a game. In fact, it actually boots just as fast as my 360, due to the dash taking so long to load. It boots only a little slower than my PS3.WilliamRLBaker
I've never read such a bold faced lie.takes about 10 seconds at most from hibernate to fully wake for gaming.[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]
I only ever turn my PC on and play a game. In fact, it actually boots just as fast as my 360, due to the dash taking so long to load. It boots only a little slower than my PS3.WilliamRLBaker
[QUOTE="archvile_78"]
Just by the last sentence you quoted of Shadowmoses you should know he's not serious. :P
lundy86_4
I've known him to troll a lot, but he is serious on occasion. We shall see how serious this post was soon enough :P
Yeah, he's sometimes serious about the weirdest things...:?
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28908437/world-of-warcraft-isnt-really-a-game.....
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]
[QUOTE="archvile_78"]
Just by the last sentence you quoted of Shadowmoses you should know he's not serious. :P
Goyoshi12
I've known him to troll a lot, but he is serious on occasion. We shall see how serious this post was soon enough :P
Yeah, he's sometimes serious about the weirdest things...:?
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28908437/world-of-warcraft-isnt-really-a-game.....
Oh my, I remember that thread :lol:
[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]
I've known him to troll a lot, but he is serious on occasion. We shall see how serious this post was soon enough :P
lundy86_4
Yeah, he's sometimes serious about the weirdest things...:?
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28908437/world-of-warcraft-isnt-really-a-game.....
Oh my, I remember that thread :lol:
Yeah...good times, good times. :cool:
Wonder what's in store for us in 2012. :)
I've never read such a bold faced lie.[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]
I only ever turn my PC on and play a game. In fact, it actually boots just as fast as my 360, due to the dash taking so long to load. It boots only a little slower than my PS3.lundy86_4
Really? I put my PC in hibernate/sleep. It takes all of a few seconds to boot up. I have no need to fully shut down my computer. If you're gonna accuse someone of lying dude, you'd best outline why, and then actually prove it.
To be fair, I was more confused on the "I only ever turn my PC on and play a game" bit. The biggest strength of the PC for me is its ability to multitask - while playing games.To be fair, I was more confused on the "I only ever turn my PC on and play a game" bit. The biggest strength of the PC for me is its ability to multitask - while playing games.illmatic87
:P That's not quite what I meant. The person I was quoting stated that you simply turn on consoles and play. I do exactly the same with my PC, as it doesn't require hours of tweaking like Shadowmoses stated. I do multitask on it quite a bit.
I think a lot of people think pc gamers are strange and pathetic weirdos. Not me necessarily. But just look at the popularity of Skyrim nude mods. It makes pc gamers look really weird and pathetic!!
[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]
[QUOTE="lowe0"] Well, then you should have no trouble countering my argument that there is no best system and that they all involve tradeoffs. I'll wait.razgriz_101
PC don't involve any tradeoffs, it is simply the superior system to play games.
i dont get the whole superiority arguement there is tradeoffs like more expensive components to get the best out a newer game, drivers and some of the pretty draconian DRM systems.
the cost is only problem for the kids, what you mean drivers? also DRM is not something that will affect you, i mean i have play games with DRM and i didn't even notice that it was there, until some troll make a thread on SW saying that X game have DRM...
as you can see no tradeoffs.
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