Why don't console peasants admit defeat to their PC Gaming Overlords?

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Well, then you should have no trouble countering my argument that there is no best system and that they all involve tradeoffs. I'll wait.lowe0

PC don't involve any tradeoffs, it is simply the superior system to play games.

List them if you want, but i doubt that you will make a reasonable argument against PC gameing, simply because PC is the superior system to play games.

I think a lot of people think pc gamers are strange and pathetic weirdos. Not me necessarily. But just look at the popularity of Skyrim nude mods. It makes pc gamers look really weird and pathetic!!

GrannyGoat

That's just the same as generalizing that all console players are 12-years old girls (boys) screaming/swearing/stating who they had sex with/playing music loudly into the microphone. All in all, tis a bit dumb.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

PC don't involve any tradeoffs, it is simply the superior system to play games.

MK-Professor

i dont get the whole superiority arguement there is tradeoffs like more expensive components to get the best out a newer game, drivers and some of the pretty draconian DRM systems.

the cost is only problem for the kids, what you mean drivers? also DRM is not something that will affect you, i mean i have play games with DRM and i didn't even notice that it was there, until some troll make a thread on SW saying that X game have DRM...

as you can see no tradeoffs.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

i dont get the whole superiority arguement there is tradeoffs like more expensive components to get the best out a newer game, drivers and some of the pretty draconian DRM systems.

DarthBilf

the cost is only problem for the kids, what you mean drivers? also DRM is not something that will affect you, i mean i have play games with DRM and i didn't even notice that it was there, until some troll make a thread on SW saying that X game have DRM...

as you can see no tradeoffs.

Have you ever seen SMG2 at 1080p son? Thats the ultimate platforming experience isnt? Or should i mention Xenoblade at 1080p?

SSF4AE , SFxTekken arent good fighters?

Bad local multiplayer? You talking to the LORDS of LAN gaming!! Go google DREAMHACK lan arena photos.... Tell me if you have ever seen this in your life as a console gamer. Makes your ""2man/4man multiplayer"" vs 12.000 ... laughable.

Less stable than what? You made my day , now reconsider .

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

i dont get the whole superiority arguement there is tradeoffs like more expensive components to get the best out a newer game, drivers and some of the pretty draconian DRM systems.

DarthBilf

the cost is only problem for the kids, what you mean drivers? also DRM is not something that will affect you, i mean i have play games with DRM and i didn't even notice that it was there, until some troll make a thread on SW saying that X game have DRM...

as you can see no tradeoffs.

and the pc have the superior venison's of these types of games you listed(higher fps, better graphics, control scheme of your choice, etc), consoles have also bad local multiplayer, also PC gameing it is very stable.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Console games need to surrender and leave SW, simply because they can't win any argument.

MK-Professor

PC don't involve any tradeoffs, it is simply the superior system to play games.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

PC don't involve any tradeoffs, it is simply the superior system to play games.

MK-Professor

List them if you want, but i doubt that you will make a reasonable argument against PC gameing, simply because PC is the superior system to play games.

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

the cost is only problem for the kids, what you mean drivers? also DRM is not something that will affect you, i mean i have play games with DRM and i didn't even notice that it was there, until some troll make a thread on SW saying that X game have DRM...

as you can see no tradeoffs.

AzatiS

Have you ever seen SMG2 at 1080p son? Thats the ultimate platforming experience isnt? Or should i mention Xenoblade at 1080p?

SSF4AE , SFxTekken arent good fighters?

Bad local multiplayer? You talking to the LORDS of LAN gaming!! Go google DREAMHACK lan arena photos.... Tell me if you have ever seen this in your life as a console gamer. Makes your ""2man/4man multiplayer"" vs 12.000 ... laughable.

Less stable than what? You made my day , now reconsider .

SMG2 without motion controls? What?

So the PC has two fighters? Bravo.

And again, you expose PC gamers as mindless drones who cite numbers instead of taking into account the game experience. Smash Bros Brawl and Castle Crashers alone decimate local multiplayer on PC.

Less stable than consoles which have games specifically optimized for its hardware and OS. No need to modify .ini files, install older drivers for old games,, or anything. You get a stable performance no matter what.

You want to know what the funny thing is? I game on my PC close to 50% of the time. It is mindless drones like you who give PC gamers a bad name.

I like it how this thread isn't about PC gaming and consoles themselves but about "console peasants" and "PC Gaming Overlords". In other words: fanboy wars material.

PC doesn't have the following (legally): Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Fire Emblem, Disgaea, Tales of series, Mario Kart, Metroid, Uncharted, Red Dead Redemption, Bayonetta, Pokemon, God of War, Valkyria Chronicles, The Legend of Zelds, Resident Evil, Mario, Shin Megami Tensei, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Twisted Metal, Infamous, Star Fox, Sly Cooper, Demon's/Dark Souls, and many other console exclusive franchises. /thread

When will people realize pc gaming isn't relevant anymore aside from a few key releases.Ghost120x

In what way is it not relevant? It gets a ridiculous amount of multiplats shared with the consoles, along with far more exclusives.

what battle? there never was a battle, are people that short sighted. get off systemwars, so you don't make such stupid posts

PC doesn't have the following (legally): Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Fire Emblem, Disgaea, Tales of series, Mario Kart, Metroid, Uncharted, Red Dead Redemption, Bayonetta, Pokemon, God of War, Valkyria Chronicles, The Legend of Zelds, Resident Evil, Mario, Shin Megami Tensei, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Twisted Metal, Infamous, Star Fox, Sly Cooper, Demon's/Dark Souls, and many other console exclusive franchises. /thread

Bigboi500

Yup, many excellent reasons to enjoy console gaming. I don't see why people just can't accept that both offer great things :P

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="topsemag55"] Nope, PCs recover from a BSOD, consoles don't come back from RROD & YLOD.:lol:NoodleFighter

I haven't had a blue screen of death since the first iteration of windows XP

and really? that's their defense? an error that can be skipped by pressing enter or restarting the computer?

At least a PC can actually work after crashing unlike some other platform I know >.>

Consoles can work after crashes too. I've had both my PS3 and my Sega Saturn freeze. They still work.

PC doesn't have the following (legally): Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Fire Emblem, Disgaea, Tales of series, Mario Kart, Metroid, Uncharted, Red Dead Redemption, Bayonetta, Pokemon, God of War, Valkyria Chronicles, The Legend of Zelds, Resident Evil, Mario, Shin Megami Tensei, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Twisted Metal, Infamous, Star Fox, Sly Cooper, Demon's/Dark Souls, and many other console exclusive franchises. /thread

Bigboi500

The PC has games from those franchises and tbh,posting lists of games like this is pointless,especially when anyone can compile even bigger lists for games the PC has that aren´t on consoles.

It's a pointless battle that console peasants refuse to give up. PC has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined :lol:

Snyper007-2

[QUOTE="Ghost120x"]When will people realize pc gaming isn't relevant anymore aside from a few key releases.lundy86_4

In what way is it not relevant? It gets a ridiculous amount of multiplats shared with the consoles, along with far more exclusives.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

PC doesn't have the following (legally): Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Fire Emblem, Disgaea, Tales of series, Mario Kart, Metroid, Uncharted, Red Dead Redemption, Bayonetta, Pokemon, God of War, Valkyria Chronicles, The Legend of Zelds, Resident Evil, Mario, Shin Megami Tensei, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Twisted Metal, Infamous, Star Fox, Sly Cooper, Demon's/Dark Souls, and many other console exclusive franchises. /thread

Nanomage

The PC has games from those franchises and tbh,posting lists of games like this is pointless,especially when anyone can compile even bigger lists for games the PC has that aren´t on consoles.

I play on both PC and PS3. What does that make me? There are games for everyone on both. I even have a Wii and still play on my old NES from time to time.katana_duo

A gamer, plain and simple. No adjectives or labels needed.

[QUOTE="Nanomage"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

PC doesn't have the following (legally): Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Fire Emblem, Disgaea, Tales of series, Mario Kart, Metroid, Uncharted, Red Dead Redemption, Bayonetta, Pokemon, God of War, Valkyria Chronicles, The Legend of Zelds, Resident Evil, Mario, Shin Megami Tensei, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Twisted Metal, Infamous, Star Fox, Sly Cooper, Demon's/Dark Souls, and many other console exclusive franchises. /thread

Bigboi500

The PC has games from those franchises and tbh,posting lists of games like this is pointless,especially when anyone can compile even bigger lists for games the PC has that aren´t on consoles.

All it gets is console ports and no games (except a few) that really show the true power of the platform that would make someone want a gaming pc. It's not relevant because the only thing pc gamers argue to console gamers is the ability to emulate console games at hi res graphics instead of talking about games that makes a gaming pc worth owning. You are probably an exception. Ghost120x

Erm... One of the major arguments on this board is the very fact that it has more high-scoring exclusives. What on Earth are you talking about?

Emulation is a no-no on this board, and thus gets talked about very little.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Nanomage"]

The PC has games from those franchises and tbh,posting lists of games like this is pointless,especially when anyone can compile even bigger lists for games the PC has that aren´t on consoles.

Nanomage

Yes, and MOST of the individual games of those series Bigboi listed can't be found on PC. Your point?

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Nanomage"]

The PC has games from those franchises and tbh,posting lists of games like this is pointless,especially when anyone can compile even bigger lists for games the PC has that aren´t on consoles.

Nanomage

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

PC don't involve any tradeoffs, it is simply the superior system to play games.

MK-Professor

i dont get the whole superiority arguement there is tradeoffs like more expensive components to get the best out a newer game, drivers and some of the pretty draconian DRM systems.

the cost is only problem for the kids, what you mean drivers? also DRM is not something that will affect you, i mean i have play games with DRM and i didn't even notice that it was there, until some troll make a thread on SW saying that X game have DRM...

as you can see no tradeoffs.

For someone who just wants to play games the cost of a console is more appetizing and the jump in fee is essentally much less than a computer if you just wanna play games really

you can try brush it under the carpet all you want much like the lemmings brushing the multiple disk games under the carpet when cows bring it up in topics like this on your point about the DRM there is certain companies and systems that are a tad draconian arent they ;)

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]It's not pointless in any way because those are franchises that sell and are popular. They are important to people and aren't on PC.

Tikeio

Yes, and MOST of the individual games of those series can't be found on PC. Your point?

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]It's not pointless in any way because those are franchises that sell and are popular. They are important to people and aren't on PC.

Bigboi500

Very few pc developers stress the art direction. I bet the budget in this area is very limited/not looked at most of the time. I actually can't even name an original looking pc game at the moment.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Nanomage"] Yes,and some of them can be found on the PC,contrary to what you´ve stated.Nanomage

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Yeah, and a lot of PCs best franchises are also on consoles: The Elder Scrolls, Deus Ex, Fallout, The Witcher, Just Cause.

Bigboi500

Very few pc developers stress the art direction. I bet the budget in this area is very limited/not looked at most of the time. I actually can't even name an original looking pc game at the moment.

Heirren

1. The Witcher
2. The Witcher 2
3. Civ V
4. Terraria
5. Stalker series
6. The Old Republic
7. Amnesia
8. Starcraft II

There are unique games in terms of art direction on all systems. These are a few for the PC.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Nanomage"]

The PC has games from those franchises and tbh,posting lists of games like this is pointless,especially when anyone can compile even bigger lists for games the PC has that aren´t on consoles.

Nanomage

Some is not all. It's a terrible platform choice if you actually enjoy those games. I started with FF on PC. That lasted two games, and then I had to have a playstation to play IX and X. Being able to play a limited selection of a library isn't a plus, it's a concession.

What does the PC have from Shin Megami Tensei?

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]It's not pointless in any way because those are franchises that sell and are popular. They are important to people and aren't on PC.

hakanakumono

Some is not all. It's a terrible platform choice if you actually enjoy those games. I started with FF on PC. That lasted two games, and then I had to have a playstation to play IX and X.

What does the PC have from Shin Megami Tensei?

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Nanomage"] Indeed,but I wasn´t the one that made a claim that they weren´t,you did.Nanomage

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Nanomage"] Yes,and some of them can be found on the PC,contrary to what you´ve stated.Nanomage

Some is not all. It's a terrible platform choice if you actually enjoy those games. I started with FF on PC. That lasted two games, and then I had to have a playstation to play IX and X.

What does the PC have from Shin Megami Tensei?

Try to pick games that aren't terrible.

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Spin-offs brah? Don't be a tech-nic-al ro-bot.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Very few pc developers stress the art direction. I bet the budget in this area is very limited/not looked at most of the time. I actually can't even name an original looking pc game at the moment.

lundy86_4

1. The Witcher
2. The Witcher 2
3. Civ V
4. Terraria
5. Stalker series
6. The Old Republic
7. Amnesia
8. Starcraft II

There are unique games in terms of art direction on all systems. These are a few for the PC.

I give you the Witcher. All the other games are very generic. Stalker? Seriously? Old Republic? Maybe, but it is based heavily on already established art. Starcraft? You mean, those tiny little Warhammer figures I used to paint when I was very young?

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Some is not all. It's a terrible platform choice if you actually enjoy those games. I started with FF on PC. That lasted two games, and then I had to have a playstation to play IX and X.

What does the PC have from Shin Megami Tensei?

hakanakumono

Try to pick games that aren't terrible.

Funny how console peasants need to resort to combining several of their franchises and they still can't beat PC :lol:

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Then you should have no trouble refuting the specific tradeoffs I listed in my earlier post. Simply saying "what tradeoffs?" does not constitute a counter argument.lowe0

List them if you want, but i doubt that you will make a reasonable argument against PC gameing, simply because PC is the superior system to play games.

As I expected, no reasonable argument against PC gameing.

every multiplat have native gamepad support, and also you have the superior control scheme K/M

what do you mean "skills based matchmaking" are you trying to argue against dedicate server LOL or you are saying that p2p on consoles have better matchmaking than p2p on pc, if that is the case then you are wrong.

every game works out of the box, and you don't need to spread lies just because you are a hardcore console fanboy.

"I'm more likely to get that on a console" so you are saying that you like playing with 1280x720, 30fps, low settings, no control scheme of your choice, no mods, etc?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Very few pc developers stress the art direction. I bet the budget in this area is very limited/not looked at most of the time. I actually can't even name an original looking pc game at the moment.

Heirren

1. The Witcher
2. The Witcher 2
3. Civ V
4. Terraria
5. Stalker series
6. The Old Republic
7. Amnesia
8. Starcraft II

There are unique games in terms of art direction on all systems. These are a few for the PC.

I give you the Witcher. All the other games are very generic. Stalker? Seriously? Old Republic? Maybe, but it is based heavily on already established art. Starcraft? You mean, those tiny little Warhammer figures I used to paint when I was very young?

Stalker has a very unique art direction. Post-apocalyptic scenario can breed some very unique and creepy locations.

The Old Republic does have a basis for the art direction, but if you play it, you'll see it has one of its own. It does away with a more realistic design in favour of a more "cartoonish" feel. It actually ends up looking pretty cool.

Yep, Starcraft.

How on Earth is Terraria generic? Let alone Amnesia or Civ V.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Nanomage"] This.Nanomage

Try to pick games that aren't terrible.

Sure it is. If we're going over which platforms have which offerings in a series, those offerings should at least be legitimate.

PC is better in terms of what it can do and its power and everything as a platform. BUT no one can argue that consoles (and PC and handhelds) have exclusives that are very important to people. I love PC. IT is the best. But I own a PS3, Wii, 3DS, and other stuff too so I can play all those awesome games that noone should miss out on.

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Try to pick games that aren't terrible.

hakanakumono

Sure it is. If we're going over which platforms have which offerings in a series, those offerings should at least be legitimate.

I wssn´t trying to focus on that point,hence why I said that posting lists of games one system may not have is irrelevant when you can also post a list of games that the other systems don´t have,so it´s pointless.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Nanomage"] I´m not your "brah",and I see you´re trying to spin the argument. Amusing.Nanomage

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

1. The Witcher
2. The Witcher 2
3. Civ V
4. Terraria
5. Stalker series
6. The Old Republic
7. Amnesia
8. Starcraft II

There are unique games in terms of art direction on all systems. These are a few for the PC.

lundy86_4

I give you the Witcher. All the other games are very generic. Stalker? Seriously? Old Republic? Maybe, but it is based heavily on already established art. Starcraft? You mean, those tiny little Warhammer figures I used to paint when I was very young?

Stalker has a very unique art direction. Post-apocalyptic scenario can breed some very unique and creepy locations.

The Old Republic does have a basis for the art direction, but if you play it, you'll see it has one of its own. It does away with a more realistic design in favour of a more "cartoonish" feel. It actually ends up looking pretty cool.

Yep, Starcraft.

How on Earth is Terraria generic? Let alone Amnesia or Civ V.

Yep, Starcraft? How, exactly? It really looks like a blatant ripoff of Warhammer--just like Gears of War.

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]You hermits with them witcher avies are always the nicest fellows. /sarcasm

Bigboi500

It´s the mark of someone that has been owned.

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]You hermits with them witcher avies are always the nicest fellows. /sarcasm

Bigboi500