Why even get the Orange Box for the 360?

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#251 Unforgiven2870
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[QUOTE="wmc540"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="wmc540"]

Is it not a possibility that sitting on your couch comfortably while playing a console game with suround sound blasting isn't more fun?

Magical_Zebra

You see? This is what happens. For the last time, the PC can be played from a couch using your HDTV and your surround sound setup.

It can and it won't. I use my PC for work, paying bills, and playing RTS games. I am not going to resituate my house hold just to play some game using my PC on my TV. The computer stays at the desk where I can be productive.

Thank You!! These hermits feel that all pc games must be played and they all must be played on your hdtv. But bottom line they must be played on the PC. As I told the Hermits before, my pc is for all my RTS games and games I cant get on 360... Oh noes!! :shock:

Yes but they can be played on HDTV as well.
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#252 lafigueroa
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]That kinda goes against the very definition of a TRUE gamer. Hewkii

what is the definition of a true gamer?

I would assume it's someone who wants greatexperiance to be appreciated by everyone, regardless of where and how they play.

Am I close?

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#253 clone01
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some people don't have a good pc or just like to play on the couch on the 360.

You are baffled because of a lack of imagination.

Always-Honest

exactly...nothing like playing on the couch with a beer next to you.

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#254 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]That kinda goes against the very definition of a TRUE gamer. lafigueroa

what is the definition of a true gamer?

I would assume it's someone who wants great experience to be appreciated by everyone, regardless of where and how they play.

Am I close?

Indeed
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#255 Blackbond
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  1. 512 MB RAM
  2. AMD 300+ 1.3 GHZ
  3. Geforce 4 MMX 32MB Video Card

I can run HL 2 people...

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#256 RaveRabbid
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The whole "i'm getting it because my PC is crap" arguement is pretty sad. My 4 year old PC can still max out Half Life 2 and it still looks better than the 360 version. Runs faster and has a higher resolution.

The whole point of a game like TF2 is also to customize with your own maps,models,sounds,etc. What happens when you are bored of the TF2 maps on the 360 version? You can do nothing.

It baffles me that people would buy it for the 360 even though they have a rig that can run it just fine

This is coming from a hardcore lemming too.

Xbox360Fanboy12

I have to agree. If you don't have any problem with PC gaming and you have a good PC and X360, you can choose the PC option. In my case, I'm thinking about renting it to finish both episodes 1 & 2 and I'll play some multiplayer before the game becomes a barren wasteland................ a week later due to Halo 3.

Who knows, if I can get in on the Toysrus 2 for 1 deal, I might pick it up and a week later....... trade it in after finishing both episodes. I guess everyone has their reasons for buying a game on one platform vs. the other.

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#257 Tobin09
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KB/Mouse sucks
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#258 cyborgjak427
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Because my PC,which Igot last February, can barely run Halo 1 PC. So it really is crap.
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#259 Blackbond
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KB/Mouse sucksTobin09

Yeah god forbid you have to use a tool that is not only more flexible its more accurate, precise and quicker/faster. Not to mention it has no limiations and has no built in compensations like auto-aim, stick aim ect do to its lack of efficiency.

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#260 Hewkii
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Because my PC,which Igot last February, can barely run Halo 1 PC. So it really is crap.cyborgjak427

I don't think there are any computers currently being made that can't run Halo. :?

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#261 Zeliard9
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The point is that there are tremendous advantages to getting the Orange Box in particular for your PC over console, especially since the Source Engine scales phenomenally well, which removes a barrier most people face when it comes to PC gaming. Not only that, but it's cheaper. If you had pre-ordered the Orange Box through Steam, you would have only paid $45 for it, but even now it's still $10 cheaper than the 360 version.

16 player limit in TF2 with only 6 maps, each restricted to their own gametype + no mods + HL2 itself ported from original Xbox version + XBL community in general = not nearly as fun. After all the multiplayer customization options you saw in Halo 3, you guys are in for a letdown. If I was the most diehard console gamer in the world, I'd still strongly consider picking up Orange Box for the PC instead.

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#262 cyborgjak427
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[QUOTE="cyborgjak427"]Because my PC,which Igot last February, can barely run Halo 1 PC. So it really is crap.Hewkii

I don't think there are any computers currently being made that can't run Halo. :?

It can run it, but it always freezes on me and always delays my movements:?. I think I might need to get it upgraded.

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#263 Hewkii
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It can run it, but it always freezes on me and always delays my movements:?. I think I might need to get it upgraded.

cyborgjak427

is this a laptop, by any chance?

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#264 cyborgjak427
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[QUOTE="cyborgjak427"]

It can run it, but it always freezes on me and always delays my movements:?. I think I might need to get it upgraded.

Hewkii

is this a laptop, by any chance?

Nope, desktop.

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#265 yoshi_64
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Preference, why else? For me, I have a PC that's like 5-6 years old. Unable to even run a game of Counter Strike to this day. Terrible, not worth the investment to upgrade. It's great for my other needs like surfing the net and so on right now. Also, I see no reason why not to.

I'm fine with buying it for the 360. I don't online game religiously and will get enough enjoyment from TF2 I'm sure, but there's other games to play.

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#266 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Simple. I like to sit on my couch and look at my 40' lcd than sit at my computer desk and look at my 19' lcd monitor... :shock:

donalbane

That's a pretty big typical excuse Lemmings have been saying lately. I hope it doesn't become a trend. :roll:

Why? because you can connect your PC to a LCD TV? Not many do, if any. K&M on lap = crazy talk



Bigger isn't better either, as far as monitors are concerned, - a $1000 40" HDTV obviously doesn't have the same picture quality as a $1000 20" studio-quality monitor. Sit at the appropriate viewing distance, and they both fill the same amount of your vision - the only things that's left to do is cry at the startling difference in image fidelity.

The TC is correct, playing this game on the 360 is a sin.

I have a futon on the floor in front of my tv. As a result, I can play prostrate, beer by the ready. I'm sorry, but there isn't a computer chair in the world I'd rather sit on than that wonderful, faux suede futon of mine. And that's not even mentioning the difference inthe size of my home entertainment speakers to my pc speakers, both of which are 5.1.

If playing the 360 version is a sin, I'll see you in hell.

My thoughts exactly. :)

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#267 HuusAsking
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The point is that there are tremendous advantages to getting the Orange Box in particular for your PC over console, especially since the Source Engine scales phenomenally well, which removes a barrier most people face when it comes to PC gaming. Not only that, but it's cheaper. If you had pre-ordered the Orange Box through Steam, you would have only paid $45 for it, but even now it's still $10 cheaper than the 360 version.

16 player limit in TF2 with only 6 maps, each restricted to their own gametype + no mods + HL2 itself ported from original Xbox version + XBL community in general = not nearly as fun. After all the multiplayer customization options you saw in Halo 3, you guys are in for a letdown. If I was the most diehard console gamer in the world, I'd still strongly consider picking up Orange Box for the PC instead.

Zeliard9

And if all you got is a 360 and a 1.4GHz Duron bummed from a friend? No way you're gonna be able to upgrade this to snuff (the motherboard's capability cap is too low), and I happen to have OB in my hand. Sure, HL2 itself is decently easy to handle, but what about Portal and HL2E2? Are those perhaps why there are the following minimum specifications?

1.7GHz Processor / 512MB RAM / DirectX 8 level Graphics Card / Windows Vista/XP/2000 / Mouse / Keyboard / Internet Connection / DVD-ROM DriveThe Orange Box
Note the part in bold. Plus a Duron ain't exactly the most sophisticated thing on the block. Basically, I'm stuck. OB won't work on my PC, and I can't upgrade it to save my life. It would take a whole new PC--and I haven't got the budget since moving up would probably involve jumping all the way up to something that could Crysis or Alan Wake 1280x1024@60Hz (the limit of my monitor)--last I checked, not cheap, especially since the latter will require Vista.

Now, this is only theoretical in my case. I actually have a P4 3GHz and an 8400GS. Got the machine used for $300 and the card for $90. Not the best, sure, but it's close to the recommended specs, at least. Once I hook it all back up, I should be having fun.

Thing is, don't jump on people who get the 360 version. They probably have their reasons which may boil down to one of the following.

  • No PC, or the PC is hands-off (as in it's not yours).
  • The PC they have is incapable of playing it decently--if at all, and there's no budget for an upgrade or replacement.
  • The only PC in the house is stuck elsewhere and can't be linked to the TV. And in my experience, converters are bad for twitchers--they can be unreliable (especially wireless) and create a small (but significant for a twitcher) lag--for example, I tried a converter playing Scarface (hey, I like it) and kept missing the timing gagues because of the lag. Plus wireless HD is still a relatively new technology--not to mention expensive.
  • The TV is already maxed out on connections and no one wants to get a switch.
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#268 Deihmos
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  1. 512 MB RAM
  2. AMD 300+ 1.3 GHZ
  3. Geforce 4 MMX 32MB Video Card

I can run HL 2 people...

Blackbond

But you cannot run episode 2, team fortress 2 and portal.

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#269 subrosian
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[QUOTE="D00nut"]

Because I have a 2000 model Dell computer that can barely run Warcraft 3 at times and I don't have the money or patience to get a gaming computer. I'll stick with Live for the gamer who just wants to game.

Magical_Zebra

Subrosian and Vandalvideo would say that its your fault and your being lazy.... :shock:

But I see absolutely nothing wrong with getting it for the 360. Oh wait. Teh pc version has teh mods 4 j0o!!111 :roll:



I have no idea what vandal would say, but I would say you're doing the best you can with the circumstances given. However, if you have a PC capable of playing the game, playing the console version is silly. It works both ways, I would never play Resident Evil 4 on the PC - it was a *crappy* port and I bought it on Gamecube, the best version of the game. I wouldn't play Halo 2 on the PC - again, it's a game built for the Xbox, and it doesn't work the same on the PC - without the full version of LIVE, and the console community, it's a different game.

Being a true gamer means seeking out the best gameplay experience possible - I play Wii Sports and Twilight Princess on the Wii, I play Halo on the Xbox, and I play Half-Life on the PC. If you're seeking an inferior version, that's fine, it's what you can afford / handle / whatever, but it's a damn shame (if you have a PC capable of playing the PC version) to deny yourself a great community, mods, et cetera simply for "convience".

I will never place accessability before quality - there are a lot of of people who do that in the world - people who call themselves "gamers" shouldn't be those people.
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#270 HeroOfCows
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The whole "i'm getting it because my PC is crap" arguement is pretty sad. My 4 year old PC can still max out Half Life 2 and it still looks better than the 360 version. Runs faster and has a higher resolution.

The whole point of a game like TF2 is also to customize with your own maps,models,sounds,etc. What happens when you are bored of the TF2 maps on the 360 version? You can do nothing.

It baffles me that people would buy it for the 360 even though they have a rig that can run it just fine

This is coming from a hardcore lemming too.

Xbox360Fanboy12

Like you know what system everyone is running. Tried the Half-Life 2 demo from Steam, and it don't run too well on integrated graphics. Better than Doom 3 though...

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#271 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Xbox360Fanboy12"]

The whole "i'm getting it because my PC is crap" arguement is pretty sad. My 4 year old PC can still max out Half Life 2 and it still looks better than the 360 version. Runs faster and has a higher resolution.

The whole point of a game like TF2 is also to customize with your own maps,models,sounds,etc. What happens when you are bored of the TF2 maps on the 360 version? You can do nothing.

It baffles me that people would buy it for the 360 even though they have a rig that can run it just fine

This is coming from a hardcore lemming too.

HeroOfCows

Like you know what system everyone is running. Tried the Half-Life 2 demo from Steam, and it don't run too well on integrated graphics. Better than Doom 3 though...

Then you're below the spec for Orange Box. TF2, Portal, and HL2E2 push up the requirement to 1.7GHz, A good DX8 card, and the usuals (with recommended being 3GHz and DX9). I'm right about at the recommended level, though my video card is perhaps a bit under par.
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#272 Magical_Zebra
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[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="D00nut"]

Because I have a 2000 model Dell computer that can barely run Warcraft 3 at times and I don't have the money or patience to get a gaming computer. I'll stick with Live for the gamer who just wants to game.

subrosian

Subrosian and Vandalvideo would say that its your fault and your being lazy.... :shock:

But I see absolutely nothing wrong with getting it for the 360. Oh wait. Teh pc version has teh mods 4 j0o!!111 :roll:



I have no idea what vandal would say, but I would say you're doing the best you can with the circumstances given. However, if you have a PC capable of playing the game, playing the console version is silly. It works both ways, I would never play Resident Evil 4 on the PC - it was a *crappy* port and I bought it on Gamecube, the best version of the game. I wouldn't play Halo 2 on the PC - again, it's a game built for the Xbox, and it doesn't work the same on the PC - without the full version of LIVE, and the console community, it's a different game.

Being a true gamer means seeking out the best gameplay experience possible - I play Wii Sports and Twilight Princess on the Wii, I play Halo on the Xbox, and I play Half-Life on the PC. If you're seeking an inferior version, that's fine, it's what you can afford / handle / whatever, but it's a damn shame (if you have a PC capable of playing the PC version) to deny yourself a great community, mods, et cetera simply for "convience".

I will never place accessability before quality - there are a lot of of people who do that in the world - people who call themselves "gamers" shouldn't be those people.

I guess you missed the part where I said I wouldnt buy WIC for the 360 because its a RTS game, thats why I have it for my pc? But of course you didnt.... :shock:

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#273 OhSnapitz
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Well don't feel too bad my friend... I don't plan on getting it at all.. :D