Why I prefer consoles > PC

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

1. Consoles use less power then high end PCs. The old 360 uses 203Watts max and the new falcon chip is down to 175W max.

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it fine

3. Consoles are less noisy. After installing a game on the 360s HD its super quiet. PCs with giant fans and graphics cards humming along plus that 750watt psu are as noisy as a airport runway.

4. Consoles get almost all the games that the PC gets plus great exclusives.

5. Price wise consoles win too. $200-$300 for a 360 is about the price of a good graphics card.

6. PC graphics aren't leaps and bounds ahead of console graphics. Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, GOW III, Fight Night Round 3, and more show off what consoles can do.

7. Consoles have 5 year life spans at the very least while PCs need to be constantly upgraded just to run the newest games on low settings. Windows Vista is considered an upgrade.

8. PC developers fear that pirating issues will effect game sales. Epic is no longer a PC game developer and Gears 2 is not coming to the PC.

malikmmm

your opinion doesnt count...

Denying facts means your a PC fanboy.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="BurningEdge"]

Come on. I'm awaiting your well thought out document that uses stereotypes as basis for argument. "Well all my friends that play WoW have crappy PCs guys so that theory applies to everyone else!" :roll:

BurningEdge

in case you still somehow have not realized after all this time...WOW doesnt even require a gaming PC to run....thats bassiclly why it became so popular.

This has been covered already. But the thing is that the majority of WoW players go on to start enjoying other PC games, fact.

no its not fact, its your own personal opinion which is backed up by nothing whatsoever.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

1. Consoles use less power then high end PCs. The old 360 uses 203Watts max and the new falcon chip is down to 175W max.

nVidiaGaMer

FACT: HIGH END Graphics cards use more then that.

My handheld DS lite use a batterie, hence it's better then console since it uses less power... did that make any sens?

[QUOTE="malikmmm"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

1. Consoles use less power then high end PCs. The old 360 uses 203Watts max and the new falcon chip is down to 175W max.

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it fine

3. Consoles are less noisy. After installing a game on the 360s HD its super quiet. PCs with giant fans and graphics cards humming along plus that 750watt psu are as noisy as a airport runway.

4. Consoles get almost all the games that the PC gets plus great exclusives.

5. Price wise consoles win too. $200-$300 for a 360 is about the price of a good graphics card.

6. PC graphics aren't leaps and bounds ahead of console graphics. Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, GOW III, Fight Night Round 3, and more show off what consoles can do.

7. Consoles have 5 year life spans at the very least while PCs need to be constantly upgraded just to run the newest games on low settings. Windows Vista is considered an upgrade.

8. PC developers fear that pirating issues will effect game sales. Epic is no longer a PC game developer and Gears 2 is not coming to the PC.

nVidiaGaMer

your opinion doesnt count...

Denying facts means your a PC fanboy.

What facts?

[QUOTE="BurningEdge"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

in case you still somehow have not realized after all this time...WOW doesnt even require a gaming PC to run....thats bassiclly why it became so popular.

cobrax75

This has been covered already. But the thing is that the majority of WoW players go on to start enjoying other PC games, fact.

no its not fact, its your own personal opinion which is backed up by nothing whatsoever.

Um no. Check XFire.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] That was as far as I needed to read. Lolz...Bebi_vegeta

FACT: HIGH END Graphics cards use more then that.

My handheld DS lite use a batterie, hence it's better then console since it uses less power... did that make any sens?

I'm talking about your electric bill since you don't pay it you don't know how much can be saved yearly when comparing a gaming PC to a console.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="BurningEdge"]

This has been covered already. But the thing is that the majority of WoW players go on to start enjoying other PC games, fact.

BurningEdge

no its not fact, its your own personal opinion which is backed up by nothing whatsoever.

Um no. Check XFire.

you mean Xfire the third party service that is used by a fraction of the WOW userbase who actually know what it is?

oh yeah, that Xfire.

This has been covered already. But the thing is that the majority of WoW players go on to start enjoying other PC games, fact.BurningEdge

Pulling something out of your ass, writing it down, and putting "fact" at the end doesn't make it true.

Edit: Ugh, I can't type today.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

FACT: HIGH END Graphics cards use more then that.

nVidiaGaMer

My handheld DS lite use a batterie, hence it's better then console since it uses less power... did that make any sens?

I'm talking about your electric bill since you don't pay it you don't know how much can be saved yearly when comparing a gaming PC to a console.

I love how hypocrtical you are....You were going on and on about how no PC user uses an HDTV...but somehow the fact that an HDTV uses exponentially more power than a monitor doesnt even matter now.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

FACT: HIGH END Graphics cards use more then that.

nVidiaGaMer

My handheld DS lite use a batterie, hence it's better then console since it uses less power... did that make any sens?

I'm talking about your electric bill since you don't pay it you don't know how much can be saved yearly when comparing a gaming PC to a console.

Do you even know how much it cost to run a PC or console every year?

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="malikmmm"]

your opinion doesnt count...

Bebi_vegeta

Denying facts means your a PC fanboy.

What facts?

Consoles costing less, using less power, and lasting longer without upgrading are all facts. PCs need to be upgraded every year or so while most consoles go 5 years.

you mean Xfire the third party service that is used by a fraction of the WOW userbase who actually know what it is?

oh yeah, that Xfire.

cobrax75

Exactly..

We've already covered this, but apparently he can't comprehend that only a very small portion of the PC gaming base, even less the WoW playerbase specifically, actually uses Xfire.

Edit: We're just going in circles, so I guess it's about time I left the thread.

[QUOTE="BurningEdge"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

no its not fact, its your own personal opinion which is backed up by nothing whatsoever.

cobrax75

Um no. Check XFire.

you mean Xfire the third party service that is used by a fraction of the WOW userbase who actually know what it is?

oh yeah, that Xfire.

How many people are online playing WoW right now? Like 300,000? There's about 150,000 playing on Xfire per day. It's statistics represent the community rather well.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Denying facts means your a PC fanboy.

nVidiaGaMer

What facts?

Consoles costing less, using less power, and lasting longer without upgrading are all facts. PCs need to be upgraded every year or so while most consoles go 5 years.

Console do cost less.

Console do use less power.

I taught you had 7 points...

But nobody needs to upgrade unless they want to.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="BurningEdge"]

Um no. Check XFire.

BurningEdge

you mean Xfire the third party service that is used by a fraction of the WOW userbase who actually know what it is?

oh yeah, that Xfire.

How many people are online playing WoW right now? Like 300,000? There's about 150,000 playing on Xfire per day. It's statistics represent the community rather well.

LOL WUT?

you just completly made up statistics.....for starters, a lot more people play WOW at any moment than that....and second and most importantly, Xfire supports a lot more games than just WOW.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

What facts?

Bebi_vegeta

Consoles costing less, using less power, and lasting longer without upgrading are all facts. PCs need to be upgraded every year or so while most consoles go 5 years.

Console do cost less.

Console do use less power.

I taught you had 7 points...

But nobody needs to upgrade unless they want to.

I didn't say all 7 were facts but most are true for PC gamers not all like some PCs are silent. Now then in order to play the newest games you have to upgrade but in order to play the newest games for consoles your all set. Most people with PCs that are 2-3 years old will have to upgrade for Alan Wake just one example.

[QUOTE="BurningEdge"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

you mean Xfire the third party service that is used by a fraction of the WOW userbase who actually know what it is?

oh yeah, that Xfire.

cobrax75

How many people are online playing WoW right now? Like 300,000? There's about 150,000 playing on Xfire per day. It's statistics represent the community rather well.

LOL WUT?

you just completly made up statistics.....for starters, a lot more people play WOW at any moment than that....and second and most importantly, Xfire supports a lot more games than just WOW.

No ****. WoW has up to millions playing it right now. I'm speaking hypothetically.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="BurningEdge"]

How many people are online playing WoW right now? Like 300,000? There's about 150,000 playing on Xfire per day. It's statistics represent the community rather well.

BurningEdge

LOL WUT?

you just completly made up statistics.....for starters, a lot more people play WOW at any moment than that....and second and most importantly, Xfire supports a lot more games than just WOW.

No ****. WoW has up to millions playing it right now. I'm speaking hypothetically.

Wait what?

you just completly controdicted yourself multiple times.

Nah, consoles are almost completly twitch-based gaming. Nowhere do you get such Epic games as Total War or such realistic simulations as IL2: Sturmovik than on the PC. Controllers are just too limiting.

Besides, PC gaming makes more money and has more developer focus than consoles.

If you want to play Final Fantasy DCMVII or Mario 206, sure play a console. If you want to guide a Roman faction to conquest over Europe and North-Africa, land a battle-scarred and nearly crippled plane on the tossing turning deck of an aircraft carrier, or spend some time stalking your prey underwater in a submarine, then there's only one choice: The PC.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Consoles costing less, using less power, and lasting longer without upgrading are all facts. PCs need to be upgraded every year or so while most consoles go 5 years.

nVidiaGaMer

Console do cost less.

Console do use less power.

I taught you had 7 points...

But nobody needs to upgrade unless they want to.

I didn't say all 7 were facts but most are true for PC gamers not all like some PCs are silent. Now then in order to play the newest games you have to upgrade but in order to play the newest games for consoles your all set. Most people with PCs that are 2-3 years old will have to upgrade for Alan Wake just one example.

Silent... you mean you play your games on mute? Anyway, the X360 is pretty loud.

Well in order to play Metal Gear Solid 4 I had to get a PS3 since my PS2 can't play it.

Why would a 2-3 year old PC need to upgrade for alan wake? Nobody is forcing you to play a maximum settings.

[QUOTE="BurningEdge"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

LOL WUT?

you just completly made up statistics.....for starters, a lot more people play WOW at any moment than that....and second and most importantly, Xfire supports a lot more games than just WOW.

cobrax75

No ****. WoW has up to millions playing it right now. I'm speaking hypothetically.

Wait what?

you just completly controdicted yourself multiple times.

Spell "contradict" right first. Now to go on, I've been leading you guys the whole time. No **** WoW isn't PC gamings savior. I'm just trying to up my post count so I can post reviews. :D

Nah, consoles are almost completly twitch-based gaming. Nowhere do you get such Epic games as Total War or such realistic simulations as IL2: Sturmovik than on the PC. Controllers are just too limiting.

Besides, PC gaming makes more money and has more developer focus than consoles.

If you want to play Final Fantasy DCMVII or Mario 206, sure play a console. If you want to guide a Roman faction to conquest over Europe and North-Africa, land a battle-scarred and nearly crippled plane on the tossing turning deck of an aircraft carrier, or spend some time stalking your prey underwater in a submarine, then there's only one choice: The PC.

br0kenrabbit

I can say the same thing. There limitations for mouse and keyboard for sports games, fighting games, racing games, etc.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Nah, consoles are almost completly twitch-based gaming. Nowhere do you get such Epic games as Total War or such realistic simulations as IL2: Sturmovik than on the PC. Controllers are just too limiting.

Besides, PC gaming makes more money and has more developer focus than consoles.

If you want to play Final Fantasy DCMVII or Mario 206, sure play a console. If you want to guide a Roman faction to conquest over Europe and North-Africa, land a battle-scarred and nearly crippled plane on the tossing turning deck of an aircraft carrier, or spend some time stalking your prey underwater in a submarine, then there's only one choice: The PC.

nVidiaGaMer

I can say the same thing. There limitations for mouse and keyboard for sports games, fighting games, racing games, etc.

but unlike consoles, PC's have no contoller limitations.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

I can say the same thing. There limitations for mouse and keyboard for sports games, fighting games, racing games, etc.

nVidiaGaMer

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Nah, consoles are almost completly twitch-based gaming. Nowhere do you get such Epic games as Total War or such realistic simulations as IL2: Sturmovik than on the PC. Controllers are just too limiting.

Besides, PC gaming makes more money and has more developer focus than consoles.

If you want to play Final Fantasy DCMVII or Mario 206, sure play a console. If you want to guide a Roman faction to conquest over Europe and North-Africa, land a battle-scarred and nearly crippled plane on the tossing turning deck of an aircraft carrier, or spend some time stalking your prey underwater in a submarine, then there's only one choice: The PC.

nVidiaGaMer

I can say the same thing. There limitations for mouse and keyboard for sports games, fighting games, racing games, etc.

But we have the OPTION to use a console-like controller, so that's really no limitation at all. I'd like to see you have the OPTION to run these on your console:

And before you say "But, but the smalls screenz!":

So no, it's not the PC that has control limitations, it's the consoles.

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it fine

4. Consoles get almost all the games that the PC gets plus great exclusives.

nVidiaGaMer

These 2 reasons are exactly why I also prefer consoles.

But the thing is that the majority of WoW players go on to start enjoying other PC games, fact.

BurningEdge

Prove it. Where are your sources. Could you be able to defend that guess? No, you pulled that out of your mind. That is false. You have no idea of what the exact percentage is. and to claim you somehow know that the ""majority" is is clueless at best.

[QUOTE="BurningEdge"]

But the thing is that the majority of WoW players go on to start enjoying other PC games, fact.

organic_machine

Prove it. Where are your sources. Could you be able to defend that guess? No, you pulled that out of your mind. That is false. You have no idea of what the exact percentage is. and to claim you somehow know that the ""majority" is is clueless at best.

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it fine

nVidiaGaMer

[QUOTE="soiheardyoulike"][QUOTE="BurningEdge"]If WoW didn't exist, PC gaming would've been more than 6 feet under.BurningEdge

really equal?...interesting because i have yet to play a console game (recent or old) that has the same amount of depth as a black isle game..

and taking over the market?...no surprise there..most people like instant gratitification.

dont take this the wrong way,i enjoy both console and PC gaming equally..but face it,PC gaming is leagues beyond console gaming.and graphics have absolutely nothing to do with it.

now,if you wanna pull the whole sales,and popularity card,i won't argue,but if you think for a second that console games have the same amount of depth,content,challenge as PC games,then people are just gonna laugh at you.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it fine

Stevo_the_gamer

Crysis can barely run on that at medium and Alan Wake will be more demanding and the minimum may be a DX10 card and Vista so just wait and see.

1. Consoles use less power then high end PCs. The old 360 uses 203Watts max and the new falcon chip is down to 175W max.nVidiaGaMer

I've often laid awake at night, thinking of this same thought.

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it finenVidiaGaMer

While that is a plus, it's also a negative. You might not need to make small upgrades over time, but once the next generation of systems roll out the previous generation is long forgotten, especially when backwards compatibility takes a back seat. On the original Xbox, playing Knights of the Old Republic gave me a migrane with it's jerky framerate.

3. Consoles are less noisy. After installing a game on the 360s HD its super quiet. PCs with giant fans and graphics cards humming along plus that 750watt psu are as noisy as a airport runway.nVidiaGaMer

My PC is in an Antec 900 case, which has a big arse fan on the top that's bigger than my hand. It produces less noise running Crysis than my old 360 did playing a DVD.

4. Consoles get almost all the games that the PC gets plus great exclusives.nVidiaGaMer

I'm pretty sure that it's the exact opposite. But I still have consoles for the exclusives.

5. Price wise consoles win too. $200-$300 for a 360 is about the price of a good graphics card.nVidiaGaMer

I built my gamer PC for £500, which at the time was only a fraction more expensive than a PS3 without any games.

6. PC graphics aren't leaps and bounds ahead of console graphics. Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, GOW III, Fight Night Round 3, and more show off what consoles can do.nVidiaGaMer

They may show off what consoles can do, but they're still miles behind top of the range PC gaming. I've never really cared that much for graphics anyway.

7. Consoles have 5 year life spans at the very least while PCs need to be constantly upgraded just to run the newest games on low settings. Windows Vista is considered an upgrade.nVidiaGaMer

From what I can gather Vista is more like a downgrade. I had to install XP on my laptop just to get consistent frames on C&C Generals. Besides, XP was released in 2001, which is a 7 nearly 8 year lifespan and it's showing no signs of giving up yet.

8. PC developers fear that pirating issues will effect game sales. Epic is no longer a PC game developer and Gears 2 is not coming to the PC.nVidiaGaMer

Pirating is an industry wide issue, not exclusive to the PC. Last time I checked, Epic never claimed to stop developing for the PC, they only said that about the Wii. In my opinion, you can keep Gears, I've never liked it. :P

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it fine

nVidiaGaMer

Crysis can barely run on that at medium and Alan Wake will be more demanding and the minimum may be a DX10 card and Vista so just wait and see.

If you had a clue, you would know that it's not as simple as low medium and high settings.

I have an identical computer except a 6800 GS. I run all physics at highest, water effects at their highest, post processing effects at their highest, and I run textures at their highest. Other things I have set to low. The computer he listed would play the gameat mostly high and medium settings.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Console do cost less.

Console do use less power.

I taught you had 7 points...

But nobody needs to upgrade unless they want to.

Bebi_vegeta

I didn't say all 7 were facts but most are true for PC gamers not all like some PCs are silent. Now then in order to play the newest games you have to upgrade but in order to play the newest games for consoles your all set. Most people with PCs that are 2-3 years old will have to upgrade for Alan Wake just one example.

Silent... you mean you play your games on mute? Anyway, the X360 is pretty loud.

Well in order to play Metal Gear Solid 4 I had to get a PS3 since my PS2 can't play it.

Why would a 2-3 year old PC need to upgrade for alan wake? Nobody is forcing you to play a maximum settings.

Most PCs would have to be upgraded because they are XP, have single cores/low end dual cores, low amounts of RAM, and bad gpus. My PC from 2006 was a middle end for the time and had a 7600 launched in January 2006 for $199 and also got 1GB of RAM, and a single core 3800+ AMD for $175 the lowest end dual core costed $200+ at the time. I had to upgrade multiple times already. Far Cry 2 would not even run on that rig on low settings.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]A high-end PC from 2005 would consist of 7800GTX 512 in SLI with a Pentium D running at 3.4GHz, a 10KRPM HDD, 4GB of of ram. You still think it would run Alan Wake in lowest settings? :roll:organic_machine

Crysis can barely run on that at medium and Alan Wake will be more demanding and the minimum may be a DX10 card and Vista so just wait and see.

If you had a clue, you would know that it's not as simple as low medium and high settings.

I have an identical computer except a 6800 GS. I run all physics at highest, water effects at their highest, post processing effects at their highest, and I run textures at their highest. Other things I have set to low. The computer he listed would play the gameat mostly high and medium settings.

Completely wrong. I have a AMD dual core @ 2.6Ghz, 2GB of RAM, and a 9800GTX and my comp struggles on medium/high no AA 1280x1024 on Crysis and thats why I prefer consoles since theres no hassling involved.

Pc's don't eat up alot of power un like consoles

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/11/19/report-game-consoles-waste-energy

here is a video about the power of consoles vs the pc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-j69RnEBAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GPI9xDmRjk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y2nJmKzOVY

only the monitors eat engery that is why they don't make them to too big.

Pc's don't eat up alot of power un like consoles

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/11/19/report-game-consoles-waste-energy

here is a video about the power of consoles vs the pc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-j69RnEBAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GPI9xDmRjk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y2nJmKzOVY

only the monitors eat engery that is why they don't make them to too big.

blackdreamhunk

119 watts for the 360? My 9800GTX uses around 150 when under load 75 watts from the PCI Express slot and another 75 from the 4 pin connecter.

Completely wrong. I have a AMD dual core @ 2.6Ghz, 2GB of RAM, and a 9800GTX and my comp struggles on medium/high no AA 1280x1024 on Crysis and thats why I prefer consoles since theres no hassling involved.

nVidiaGaMer

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

Pc's don't eat up alot of power un like consoles

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/11/19/report-game-consoles-waste-energy

here is a video about the power of consoles vs the pc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-j69RnEBAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GPI9xDmRjk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y2nJmKzOVY

only the monitors eat engery that is why they don't make them to too big.

nVidiaGaMer

119 watts for the 360? My 9800GTX uses around 150 when under load 75 watts from the PCI Express slot and another 75 from the 4 pin connecter.

That's because you bought a crap card. Not all 9800GTX's are garbage, it a lot are. It looks like you failed to do proper research and got a bad one.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Completely wrong. I have a AMD dual core @ 2.6Ghz, 2GB of RAM, and a 9800GTX and my comp struggles on medium/high no AA 1280x1024 on Crysis and thats why I prefer consoles since theres no hassling involved.

AirGuitarist87

I know, right? He made terrible hardware descisions and takes it out on System Wars!:lol:

1. Consoles use less power then high end PCs. The old 360 uses 203Watts max and the new falcon chip is down to 175W max.

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it fine

3. Consoles are less noisy. After installing a game on the 360s HD its super quiet. PCs with giant fans and graphics cards humming along plus that 750watt psu are as noisy as a airport runway.

4. Consoles get almost all the games that the PC gets plus great exclusives.

5. Price wise consoles win too. $200-$300 for a 360 is about the price of a good graphics card.

6. PC graphics aren't leaps and bounds ahead of console graphics. Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, GOW III, Fight Night Round 3, and more show off what consoles can do.

7. Consoles have 5 year life spans at the very least while PCs need to be constantly upgraded just to run the newest games on low settings. Windows Vista is considered an upgrade.

8. PC developers fear that pirating issues will effect game sales. Epic is no longer a PC game developer and Gears 2 is not coming to the PC.

nVidiaGaMer

1. This assumption only makes sense if you don't already own a PC. If you do own a PC, you also assume that you turn off your PC immediately after use. As you are more then likely to leave your PC on, whilst gaming on your 360.

That said, you forgot to account for the energy needed for you bigger HDTV and your home theatre system.

2. What is this constant upgrades bs that people try to refer to. PC gaming allows you to upgrade when you wish to upgrade. For some of us, we make enough money that we enjoy upgrading every year and half. Other people, like my brother, who is still in High School is using a stock Dell Dimension 8200 to play Lich King. Yes, that PC is like 5 years old... it has AGP for God's sake, and 1gig of RAM.

3. You are assuming all PC gamers have beast computers that are OC'ed and the like. Not everyone purchases high end PCs. Even then, most high end PC modulate their fans, such that they spin lower then you are not using the GPU and CPU intensely... so when you aren't gaming... it pretty darn silent. Even then, the sound is muted by either (a) Headsets or (b) your killer sound system...

Or, in the case of my brother's PC... my 360 is louder then his Dell, and I have a 360 elite.

4. Console DO NOT "get almost all the games that the PC gets plus great exclusives." Most of the games that originate on the PC are striped naked. Look at Red Alert 3 for example... the game is pathetic on the 360 compared to the PC. Look at Orange Box. etc.

I suggest you also take a look at the compilation of PC AAAE games. I think you must have missed it.

5. Except, the difference between a normal PC ... like the one you are using.. and a good gaming PC is about $300 anyways. So really, it's the same. $300 will get you a GTX260 and another 2gigs of RAM..... which in itself produces way better graphics then the 360 can dream to muster.

6. You obviously haven't seen a high end PC compared to a 360. I have both sitting in my room. There is a huge difference, and has been for over a year. Even the most rampant fanboys won't deny that there is a big difference.

7. Once again... my brother plays on a 5 year old PC.

Also, if Vista is considered an upgrade, I suggest looking up when XP came out.

8. 360 piracy is rampant, and is becoming worse then the PC. PC has already solving the issue of piracy via Digital Distribution. Whilst games for the 360 are being pirated weeks in advance.

While Epic switched to being multiplat, more PC developers have immerged. However, at the same time, console developers have also stepped up to take in the PC... Look at Capcom for example. Their console to PC ports are amazingly well done.

As a gamer I am happy that I have a pc. It is alot more use full than a console. Now that the world has gone into ression I can hunt for a job if I need to on my pc. I can play game reseach facts find news and watch tv shows from my pc. Best of all I get the best games known to man.

This isn't even a super high end PC and it uses nearly triple the power as a 360 does while gaming.

Our test system contains a Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00 GHz / 1333 FSB, the nForce 680i mainboard, a passive water-cooling solution on the CPU, DVD-rom and aWD Raptor drive. The results:

PC in Idle = 199 Watt

PC 100% usage (wattage gaming Peak) = 338 Watt

http://guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-260-oc-896-mb-review/4

Guru3d.com

Nothing wrong with my PC I max out every game except Crysis which is a piece.

nVidiaGaMer

Wait wait wait... so you're telling me that the GREAT HASSLE that is the entirety of Pc gaming only pertains to one game?!:lol: You've got to be kidding. Get out of here.

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Completely wrong. I have a AMD dual core @ 2.6Ghz, 2GB of RAM, and a 9800GTX and my comp struggles on medium/high no AA 1280x1024 on Crysis and thats why I prefer consoles since theres no hassling involved.

nVidiaGaMer

Nothing wrong with my PC I max out every game except Crysis which is a piece.

Consoles are the heart and soul of gaming.Zero5000X

Consoles are the heart and soul of gaming.Zero5000X