Why I prefer consoles > PC

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Nothing wrong with my PC I max out every game except Crysis which is a piece.

organic_machine

Wait wait wait... so you're telling me that the GREAT HASSLE that is the entirety of Pc gaming only pertains to one game?!:lol: You've got to be kidding. Get out of here.

Yeah and you gave Perfect Dark a 10 so how are you a PC gamer lmao.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Nothing wrong with my PC I max out every game except Crysis which is a piece.

nVidiaGaMer

Wait wait wait... so you're telling me that the GREAT HASSLE that is the entirety of Pc gaming only pertains to one game?!:lol: You've got to be kidding. Get out of here.

Yeah and you gave Perfect Dark a 10 so how are you a PC gamer lmao.

Whether or not I am a PC gamer is irrelevant to the discussion. You, however, run "every game" at max, except Crysis. This destroys your so called hassle "argument."

check out what this guy had to say about pc gaming. I am not sure who he is but i think he is like some big time gaming guru

http://venturebeat.com/2008/12/07/game-industry-maverick-bernie-stolar-unplugged-and-worried-about-crappy-games/

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it fine

4. Consoles get almost all the games that the PC gets plus great exclusives.

Gamer4Iife

These 2 reasons are exactly why I also prefer consoles.

But there's more AAA & AA on PC... Unless the games you prefer are on console, then alright.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

Wait wait wait... so you're telling me that the GREAT HASSLE that is the entirety of Pc gaming only pertains to one game?!:lol: You've got to be kidding. Get out of here.

organic_machine

Yeah and you gave Perfect Dark a 10 so how are you a PC gamer lmao.

Whether or not I am a PC gamer is irrelevant to the discussion. You, however, run "every game" at max, except Crysis. This destroys your so called hassle "argument."

Oh theres a hasstle all right in two years I had to upgrade processor, RAM, and gpu twice and over $400 spent on upgrades. Optical drive failed as did my HD.

Oh theres a hasstle all right in two years I had to upgrade processor, RAM, and gpu twice and over $400 spent on upgrades. Optical drive failed as did my HD.

nVidiaGaMer

But that's why I prefer PC gaming. Because I wont be stuck with the same hardware. Can it be a hassle? Sure. But I would find it to be more of a hassle to get a game on a console that has graphical problems you know you can't fix. even though there's supposedly a hassle in gaming on a PC, you know you at least have the option to upgrade. Whereas consoles are are stuck until the next system is out and the next system might not even have backwards compatibility.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Yeah and you gave Perfect Dark a 10 so how are you a PC gamer lmao.

nVidiaGaMer

Whether or not I am a PC gamer is irrelevant to the discussion. You, however, run "every game" at max, except Crysis. This destroys your so called hassle "argument."

Oh theres a hasstle all right in two years I had to upgrade processor, RAM, and gpu twice and over $400 spent on upgrades. Optical drive failed as did my HD.

Nobody forced you to upgrade...

here are requierements for far cry 2 :

CPU: Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz, Pentium D 2.66 Ghz, AMD Athlon 64 3500+ or better.

RAM: 1 GB

Video card:NVidia 6800 or ATI X1650 or better (Shader Model 3 and 256 MB of graphic memory required).

Media reader: DVD-ROM

Hard drive space: ~ 12 Gig of HD space (TBD).

Even your mid-low end 2006 PC could play.

As for things breaking... go ask X360 user if there console reliable.

I would like to say something because of us pc gamers buying the powerful hardware there is now personal supercomputers. That is all thanks to pc gamers and pc gaming.

doctors can now have test reslut in matter of seconds rather than weeks. Pc gaming over the years will become more important.

If WoW didn't exist, PC gaming would've been more than 6 feet under.BurningEdge

1. Consoles use less power then high end PCs. The old 360 uses 203Watts max and the new falcon chip is down to 175W max.
Who cares? I play my 360 with my pc on, and i play my pc with my 360 off. If anything i'm saving energy.

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it fine
Yet a 2008 Pc that costs the same as a PS3 and has much more clear and better graphics.

3. Consoles are less noisy. After installing a game on the 360s HD its super quiet. PCs with giant fans and graphics cards humming along plus that 750watt psu are as noisy as a airport runway.
My launch 360 is atleast 2 times as loud as my current high end PC. You obviously dont have one.

4. Consoles get almost all the games that the PC gets plus great exclusives.
Pcs get almost all the games that the consoles get plus great exclusives.

5. Price wise consoles win too. $200-$300 for a 360 is about the price of a good graphics card.
A good pc now costs the same as a PS3 excluding a monitor, but it would run games on much higher graphics. Balances out in a way, not to mention PCs aren't just used for gaming.

6. PC graphics aren't leaps and bounds ahead of console graphics. Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, GOW III, Fight Night Round 3, and more show off what consoles can do.
They aren't much better, but it's definately visable.

7. Consoles have 5 year life spans at the very least while PCs need to be constantly upgraded just to run the newest games on low settings. Windows Vista is considered an upgrade.
Windows Vista is a bad example you gave there, people know that you're better off with XP then Vista for gaming. As for my pc for an example, i'm sure it will last running games on high/v high until the next Windows, even then it will run games with better graphics until next gen consoles.

8. PC developers fear that pirating issues will effect game sales. Epic is no longer a PC game developer and Gears 2 is not coming to the PC.
I wouldnt' know about that, so i guess you could be right?

nVidiaGaMer

Here check this link out right here this is all because of pc gaming

http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9120741

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/article5289428.ece

this all because of pc gaming and the pc gamers

This has been covered already. But the thing is that the majority of WoW players go on to start enjoying other PC games, fact.BurningEdge

1. Consoles use less power then high end PCs. The old 360 uses 203Watts max and the new falcon chip is down to 175W max.

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it fine

3. Consoles are less noisy. After installing a game on the 360s HD its super quiet. PCs with giant fans and graphics cards humming along plus that 750watt psu are as noisy as a airport runway.

4. Consoles get almost all the games that the PC gets plus great exclusives.

5. Price wise consoles win too. $200-$300 for a 360 is about the price of a good graphics card.

6. PC graphics aren't leaps and bounds ahead of console graphics. Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, GOW III, Fight Night Round 3, and more show off what consoles can do.

7. Consoles have 5 year life spans at the very least while PCs need to be constantly upgraded just to run the newest games on low settings. Windows Vista is considered an upgrade.

8. PC developers fear that pirating issues will effect game sales. Epic is no longer a PC game developer and Gears 2 is not coming to the PC.

nVidiaGaMer

Wow a voice of reason!

Yeah and you gave Perfect Dark a 10 so how are you a PC gamer lmao.nVidiaGaMer

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

Whether or not I am a PC gamer is irrelevant to the discussion. You, however, run "every game" at max, except Crysis. This destroys your so called hassle "argument."

Bebi_vegeta

Oh theres a hasstle all right in two years I had to upgrade processor, RAM, and gpu twice and over $400 spent on upgrades. Optical drive failed as did my HD.

Nobody forced you to upgrade...

here are requierements for far cry 2 :

CPU: Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz, Pentium D 2.66 Ghz, AMD Athlon 64 3500+ or better.

RAM: 1 GB

Video card:NVidia 6800 or ATI X1650 or better (Shader Model 3 and 256 MB of graphic memory required).

Media reader: DVD-ROM

Hard drive space: ~ 12 Gig of HD space (TBD).

Even your mid-low end 2006 PC could play.

As for things breaking... go ask X360 user if there console reliable.

That doesn't mean that it would run well minimum requirements as fake Crysis can't run on a 6800 card at all it gets around 20fps on low. My friend tried playing Far Cry 2 on X1950Pro, 2GB RAM, and a Pentium 4 3.2 and the game lagged on low 1024x768.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]Yeah and you gave Perfect Dark a 10 so how are you a PC gamer lmao.Stevo_the_gamer

There you go consoles have some of the best games ever.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]Yeah and you gave Perfect Dark a 10 so how are you a PC gamer lmao.nVidiaGaMer

There you go consoles have some of the best games ever.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]Yeah and you gave Perfect Dark a 10 so how are you a PC gamer lmao.nVidiaGaMer

There you go consoles have some of the best games ever.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Oh theres a hasstle all right in two years I had to upgrade processor, RAM, and gpu twice and over $400 spent on upgrades. Optical drive failed as did my HD.

nVidiaGaMer

Nobody forced you to upgrade...

here are requierements for far cry 2 :

CPU: Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz, Pentium D 2.66 Ghz, AMD Athlon 64 3500+ or better.

RAM: 1 GB

Video card:NVidia 6800 or ATI X1650 or better (Shader Model 3 and 256 MB of graphic memory required).

Media reader: DVD-ROM

Hard drive space: ~ 12 Gig of HD space (TBD).

Even your mid-low end 2006 PC could play.

As for things breaking... go ask X360 user if there console reliable.

That doesn't mean that it would run well minimum requirements as fake Crysis can't run on a 6800 card at all it gets around 20fps on low. My friend tried playing Far Cry 2 on X1950Pro, 2GB RAM, and a Pentium 4 3.2 and the game lagged on low 1024x768.

Your friends is a reliable source...

Wait, arent you the guy who claims MGS4 and Heavy Rain are better looking than Crysis, and even called Warhead as "Outdated"? ::|

Oh yes you are... :roll:

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]Yeah and you gave Perfect Dark a 10 so how are you a PC gamer lmao.nVidiaGaMer

There you go consoles have some of the best games ever.

And vice versa, as PC has many timeless classics. Due to emulation, PC users can also enjoy many of the console classics as well.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Nothing wrong with my PC I max out every game except Crysis which is a piece.

nVidiaGaMer

Wait wait wait... so you're telling me that the GREAT HASSLE that is the entirety of Pc gaming only pertains to one game?!:lol: You've got to be kidding. Get out of here.

Yeah and you gave Perfect Dark a 10 so how are you a PC gamer lmao.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Nobody forced you to upgrade...

here are requierements for far cry 2 :

CPU: Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz, Pentium D 2.66 Ghz, AMD Athlon 64 3500+ or better.

RAM: 1 GB

Video card:NVidia 6800 or ATI X1650 or better (Shader Model 3 and 256 MB of graphic memory required).

Media reader: DVD-ROM

Hard drive space: ~ 12 Gig of HD space (TBD).

Even your mid-low end 2006 PC could play.

As for things breaking... go ask X360 user if there console reliable.

Bebi_vegeta

That doesn't mean that it would run well minimum requirements as fake Crysis can't run on a 6800 card at all it gets around 20fps on low. My friend tried playing Far Cry 2 on X1950Pro, 2GB RAM, and a Pentium 4 3.2 and the game lagged on low 1024x768.

Your friends is a reliable source...

Find some credible benchmarks that show that a lowly X1650 can run the game smoothly or a 6800.

5. Price wise consoles win too. $200-$300 for a 360 is about the price of a good graphics card.

nVidiaGaMer

Take the price of the PC you use now, take the price of the console you use now. Put them together. Tadaaa, there's your budget!

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

That doesn't mean that it would run well minimum requirements as fake Crysis can't run on a 6800 card at all it gets around 20fps on low. My friend tried playing Far Cry 2 on X1950Pro, 2GB RAM, and a Pentium 4 3.2 and the game lagged on low 1024x768.

nVidiaGaMer

Your friends is a reliable source...

Find some credible benchmarks that show that a lowly X1650 can run the game smoothly or a 6800.

Why don't your friend, download the benchark and post the results?

Has anyone discussed the sheer customizability of of PC games?

Oblivion, CS: Source, TF2, Half Life 2, there are so many games that are greatly enhanced just by how much you can change them!

Also, FPS's simly have tighter and more responive controls on a PC. That is not a matter of opinion. I can set my sensitivity of Halo 3 all the way up on my 360, and it still takes a countable amount of time to turn around. On a PC FPS, for example on Counterstrik: Source, I can spin around more times than I can count in one second.

Once again I will come back to modability. I don't like how I can't fast travel from interiors on Oblivion. Well, I downloaded a mod, so now I can. I beat oblivion, so I downloaded some stuff to do. I didn't like how dated my CS:S graphics looked, so I downloaded skins, and now it is better looking than anything on my 360.

Also, comparing prices isn't a very smart thing to do. Yes, you have to pay more for a PC that is comparable to a 360, but from that point, you don't have to pay much more to get graphics that are amazingly better than a consoles.

Also, there are very few good games that are exclusive to consoles, but many that are exclusive to PC.

PC gaming isn't going anywhere, because it is the best. People might want to take shots at it, but that is just something you've got to deal with when you are in the lead.

1. Consoles use less power then high end PCs. The old 360 uses 203Watts max and the new falcon chip is down to 175W max.

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it fine

3. Consoles are less noisy. After installing a game on the 360s HD its super quiet. PCs with giant fans and graphics cards humming along plus that 750watt psu are as noisy as a airport runway.

4. Consoles get almost all the games that the PC gets plus great exclusives.

5. Price wise consoles win too. $200-$300 for a 360 is about the price of a good graphics card.

6. PC graphics aren't leaps and bounds ahead of console graphics. Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, GOW III, Fight Night Round 3, and more show off what consoles can do.

7. Consoles have 5 year life spans at the very least while PCs need to be constantly upgraded just to run the newest games on low settings. Windows Vista is considered an upgrade.

8. PC developers fear that pirating issues will effect game sales. Epic is no longer a PC game developer and Gears 2 is not coming to the PC.

nVidiaGaMer

1. Consoles use less power then high end PCs. The old 360 uses 203Watts max and the new falcon chip is down to 175W max.

Your console and your normal PC use more power than a 500wat PSU, wich is perfectly fine for gaming.

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it fine

You don't need to update every year. You can update every 2-3 years, selling the old video card and buying a new one.

3. Consoles are less noisy. After installing a game on the 360s HD its super quiet. PCs with giant fans and graphics cards humming along plus that 750watt psu are as noisy as a airport runway.

Sorry, but the xbox fans make alot more noise.

4. Consoles get almost all the games that the PC gets plus great exclusives.

PCs get almost all the games that consoles get, and they are even better looking and take advantage of PC only hardware (Ageia on Mirrors Edge) also PCs get mods, and free online.

5. Price wise consoles win too. $200-$300 for a 360 is about the price of a good graphics card.

Not true, you can sell your PC and your xbox (or the money you were saving to buy it) and you can buy a very good PC.

6. PC graphics aren't leaps and bounds ahead of console graphics. Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, GOW III, Fight Night Round 3, and more show off what consoles can do.

You are right on that one, they are not leaps. They are light years ahead of consoles, both technically and graphically.

7. Consoles have 5 year life spans at the very least while PCs need to be constantly upgraded just to run the newest games on low settings. Windows Vista is considered an upgrade.

Windows Vista 64 bit is perfectly fine on myPC, which also runs Ubuntu Linux, as said earlier you can upgrade every 3 years.

8. PC developers fear that pirating issues will effect game sales. Epic is no longer a PC game developer and Gears 2 is not coming to the PC.

Steam says Hello: There are more than 16 million active Steam accounts as of October 2008.

1. Consoles use less power then high end PCs. The old 360 uses 203Watts max and the new falcon chip is down to 175W max.nVidiaGaMer

True. But you need PC anyway to nongaming activities. And highe-end PC uses less power than a normal PC plus 360 combined

2. No need for constant upgrades. A high end PC from 2005 will not even be able to run Alan Wake on the lowest settings while the 360 from 2005 will run it finenVidiaGaMer

A high end 2005 PC will run Alan Wake on medium. It will be a game designed around 360, so it won't have anywhere near the hardware requirements of something like Crysis. But of course you do need to upgrade, you also do on consoles, just that on PC you have to do it more often. But don't act like it's a bad thing, because it depends on what you want. Consoles might not have upgrades, but at the same time you pay for it in graphics. 360 already pretty much peaked in 2006, from then the graphical improvements have been minimal. At least on PC you can upgrade and get better graphics

3. Consoles are less noisy. After installing a game on the 360s HD its super quiet. PCs with giant fans and graphics cards humming along plus that 750watt psu are as noisy as a airport runway.nVidiaGaMer

That isn't true. Not to mention that if you don't install 360 game on HD it's loud as hell

4. Consoles get almost all the games that the PC gets plus great exclusives.nVidiaGaMer

Now this is total and utter nonsense. It's the other way around. Most good PC games stay exclusive. Nowadays it's PC who gets almost all the games from consoles, not the other way around

5. Price wise consoles win too. $200-$300 for a 360 is about the price of a good graphics card.nVidiaGaMer

True. But then I have to pay $50 for XBL each year and then pay $30 more for every game. Unless you hardly play games at all PCgaming can actualy end up costing cheaper in many cases

6. PC graphics aren't leaps and bounds ahead of console graphics. Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, GOW III, Fight Night Round 3, and more show off what consoles can do.nVidiaGaMer

Those games that require anything above $100 GPU do look a lot better than anything on consoles. Those games you've named look good, but they don't look Crysis good. Upcoming games like Empire: TOtal War or Storm of War also are leaps and bounds above anything consoles will be able to do. And let's remember this generation has at least 3-4 more years of life in it, so the gap will be getting bigger and bigger

7. Consoles have 5 year life spans at the very least while PCs need to be constantly upgraded just to run the newest games on low settings. Windows Vista is considered an upgrade.nVidiaGaMer

If you want to run games on low settings than you have to upgrade every 4 years.

8. PC developers fear that pirating issues will effect game sales. Epic is no longer a PC game developer and Gears 2 is not coming to the PC.nVidiaGaMer

So? On the other hand console gaming has become so high-end that most PC devs are already too small to attempth entering it. Sports Interactive dropped out of 360 and Football Manager 2009 is no longer coming to 360

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Nah, consoles are almost completly twitch-based gaming. Nowhere do you get such Epic games as Total War or such realistic simulations as IL2: Sturmovik than on the PC. Controllers are just too limiting.

Besides, PC gaming makes more money and has more developer focus than consoles.

If you want to play Final Fantasy DCMVII or Mario 206, sure play a console. If you want to guide a Roman faction to conquest over Europe and North-Africa, land a battle-scarred and nearly crippled plane on the tossing turning deck of an aircraft carrier, or spend some time stalking your prey underwater in a submarine, then there's only one choice: The PC.

br0kenrabbit

I can say the same thing. There limitations for mouse and keyboard for sports games, fighting games, racing games, etc.

But we have the OPTION to use a console-like controller, so that's really no limitation at all. I'd like to see you have the OPTION to run these on your console:

And before you say "But, but the smalls screenz!":

So no, it's not the PC that has control limitations, it's the consoles.

i recall there was a mech game for the original xbox that had a controller that was some what similar, console games can have advanced controls liek thos bjerkface96

1. Well because its a high end PC.........

2. A Good gaming computer from 2005 will run Alan Wake on similar settings as the 360 version, as long as its a decent port.

3. Hell no. HELL NO. I can tell you now - having my PC, 360 and Ps3 all next to eachother my PC is MUCH quieter than my 360, though not as quiet as my PS3 admittedly. Besides you can buy noise cancelling cases and kits if its that much of a problem.

4. And the PC gets the most exclusives out of every system.............

5. When you buy a consoloe you are paying for cheap, old hardware, that is wrapped up and served to consumers. You are not buying high end, brand new, gaming hardware. You get what you pay for. Besides my PC cost as much as a PS3 here last year, and holds up perfectly.

6. No they are. Look at Company of Heroes in 2006, or Medieval Total War 2. Even a game like Crysis is a generation ahead in terms of visuals.

7. PCs will last as long as you want them too....

8. Epic was never a PC exclusive developer. The PC still has the most exclusive developers. More console devs are going multiplat due to rising development costs.

PC will always outperform consoles.

But I like gaming on console.

Consoles have better games.

And Laptop > Gaming PC. I have better things to spend my money on besides an Uber Gaming PC to play expansion packs and Strategy games.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Nah, consoles are almost completly twitch-based gaming. Nowhere do you get such Epic games as Total War or such realistic simulations as IL2: Sturmovik than on the PC. Controllers are just too limiting.

Besides, PC gaming makes more money and has more developer focus than consoles.

If you want to play Final Fantasy DCMVII or Mario 206, sure play a console. If you want to guide a Roman faction to conquest over Europe and North-Africa, land a battle-scarred and nearly crippled plane on the tossing turning deck of an aircraft carrier, or spend some time stalking your prey underwater in a submarine, then there's only one choice: The PC.

nVidiaGaMer

I can say the same thing. There limitations for mouse and keyboard for sports games, fighting games, racing games, etc.

i recall there was a mech game for the original xbox that had a controller that was some what similar, console games can have advanced controls liek thos but ultimately, i dont play the ps3 or xbox to learn how to pilot a plane or mechjerkface96

It doesn't matter if you will use them, the point is that the PC gives you the options in the first place where the consoles force a paticular controller onto you.