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It's what happens when you're in such power and influence, they do the most they can to take advantage of their position. BUT, it's not like their service isn't great, it IS. There is NO point beating this dead horse again, it's only going to fuel ones fanboyism and ego.
They're screwing over their players. They're screwing over developers. And, they're screwing over the entire industry. Second_Hokage
another way to look at it is that they are providing a service that people largely support
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or am I missing the point?
Hey i just realised EVIL spelled backwards is LIVE......and xbox spelled backwards is xobx...coincidence??????
[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]They're screwing over their players. They're screwing over developers. And, they're screwing over the entire industry. R3FURBISHED
another way to look at it is that they are providing a service that people largely support
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or am I missing the point?
"support"? more like they have to put up with it if they have an xbox
even though they do a lot of shady bs i think the innovations they've brought this gen to consoles outweigh that. at the end of the day they're a business, and no business cares about people. they only care about how much money they can milk out of people.mems_1224Valve cares about people. *valvedomination*
[QUOTE="mems_1224"]even though they do a lot of shady bs i think the innovations they've brought this gen to consoles outweigh that. at the end of the day they're a business, and no business cares about people. they only care about how much money they can milk out of people.parkurtommoValve cares about people. *valvedomination* not true. gabe only cares about big macs.
[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]even though they do a lot of shady bs i think the innovations they've brought this gen to consoles outweigh that. at the end of the day they're a business, and no business cares about people. they only care about how much money they can milk out of people.mems_1224Valve cares about people. *valvedomination* not true. gabe only cares about big macs.God damn, you have a point :(
They're screwing over their players. They're screwing over developers. And, they're screwing over the entire industry. Do you think microsoft is becoming evil, beyond what Activision and EA are?Second_Hokage
You mean the initial cost of 300$ for 360 when PS3 had a 600$ cost ?
Or the secure and amazing online service, than having 10.000.000 credit cards stolen on PS3 joke online system ?
Maybe the fact that they have enabled indies create actual games with XNA, when Sony has nothing like it
Or the Kinect that is actually used in games unlike MOve that is a device Sony brought out and have zero support for it
Sure, MS is so evil and Sony is like a saint comparing
LOL
But they pretty much own the PC market man! How can they not be tempted to profit from the PC market, and not experiment with other products such as gaming, and maybe then, who knows, other things?Well, you see. It really easy to explain. Microsoft is like a swarm of Locusts, they take what they need from an area and move on. Whenever this stops brining in enough numbers, they'll move on.
Bardock47
Well, you see. It really easy to explain. Microsoft is like a swarm of Locusts, they take what they need from an area and move on. Whenever this stops brining in enough numbers, they'll move on.
Bardock47
Indeed, like Sony made the PSN+ to make extra money and they completly abandone the core in 2012 without a single serious game other than wonderbook and LBP Karting for the extreme casual market
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Well, you see. It really easy to explain. Microsoft is like a swarm of Locusts, they take what they need from an area and move on. Whenever this stops brining in enough numbers, they'll move on.
loosingENDS
Indeed, like Sony made the PSN+ to make extra money and they completly abandone the core in 2012 without a single serious game other than wonderbook and LBP Karting for the extreme casual market
That is correct.I like having both Microsoft and Sony screwing me at once. With all joke aside, Microsoft is a business as with all developers and corporations and they too like everyone else just want to maximum their revenue.
It's because lemmings only have a 360 so they're now forced to look at it on m$ business standpoint, so they're just gonna say " well, m$ is a business so they can screw me over and over"j_assassinthat. And also lems are far too invested in achievements and "online" friends lists.. kinda sad really
The high horse people here ride on is amazing. Using the word EVIL to describe a company who basically is doing what a corporation's purpose is......Business. That is all they are doing. I dont agree with the gold to play online so I dont pay for it, but it's not evil. Flying jets into buildings and killing civilians is evil.Here we go again. Microsoft is a business, they want to make money. End Thread
James161324
[QUOTE="j_assassin"]It's because lemmings only have a 360 so they're now forced to look at it on m$ business standpoint, so they're just gonna say " well, m$ is a business so they can screw me over and over"ultrakingthat. And also lems are far too invested in achievements and "online" friends lists.. kinda sad really lems only have 360's? Conversely Charlie sheens some how have every system or atleast a gaming level 4000 dollar pc right? just funny right there fanboy groupings aren't based upon console ownership they are based upon fervor for a specific system or company. but remmber folks there are no achievement type things on psn nor friends lists so charlie sheens can't get attatched...
[QUOTE="ultraking"][QUOTE="j_assassin"]It's because lemmings only have a 360 so they're now forced to look at it on m$ business standpoint, so they're just gonna say " well, m$ is a business so they can screw me over and over"WilliamRLBakerthat. And also lems are far too invested in achievements and "online" friends lists.. kinda sad really lems only have 360's? Conversely Charlie sheens some how have every system or atleast a gaming level 4000 dollar pc right? just funny right there fanboy groupings aren't based upon console ownership they are based upon fervor for a specific system or company. but remmber folks there are no achievement type things on psn nor friends lists so charlie sheens can't get attatched...i have no idea why you keep mentioning charlie sheen.
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="ultraking"]that. And also lems are far too invested in achievements and "online" friends lists.. kinda sad reallyultrakinglems only have 360's? Conversely Charlie sheens some how have every system or atleast a gaming level 4000 dollar pc right? just funny right there fanboy groupings aren't based upon console ownership they are based upon fervor for a specific system or company. but remmber folks there are no achievement type things on psn nor friends lists so charlie sheens can't get attatched...i have no idea why you keep mentioning charlie sheen. dont lie you've read my explanation of why I call cows charlie sheens stop deflecting.
Wow you're naive, they taught Activision pretty much everything they know, M$ started this whole DLC and hidden extra fee craze. They are way worse then Activision. And lol @ becoming evil. M$ invented the concept.They are becoming evil - yes, but nowhere near EA and Activision yet.
Zevante101
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="ultraking"]i have no idea why you keep mentioning charlie sheen. ultrakingdont lie you've read my explanation of why I call cows charlie sheens stop deflecting. i must have missed that train wreck of an explanation. But please dont explain it to me , as i really dont care. you: I really don't care. In reality: I posted I have no idea why you keep mentioning charlie sheens, and I replied to your reply. Odd for someone that doesn't care you put in alot of effort.
I wish I got ms points for knocking little s*** on the system wars forum for a loop sadly I don't. Much like the morons that defend sony for its practices including 76 day long hack of psn dont get psn points or ps plus memberships.They are not screwing everyone ...
... their shareholders, for example, are pretty happy ...
... and their shills get MS points for damage control on forums ...
KiZZo1
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="ultraking"] i must have missed that train wreck of an explanation. But please dont explain it to me , as i really dont care.ultrakingyou: I really don't care. In reality: I posted I have no idea why you keep mentioning charlie sheens, and I replied to your reply. Odd for someone that doesn't care you put in alot of effort.good point. Cya around
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