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#1  Edited By kemar7856
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Still no virtual console yikes

Lackluster online come on the OG xbox from 2002 had more online functions then this. you have to use your phone for online funtions come on man....

lack of third parties

Mass amount of Wii-U ports

nes/snes classics they couldn't even fix the resolution on the games they look terrible on modern tv's something any emulator can do.

for xbox/ps4 if a game is suppose to be 1080p but ends up being 900p we get endless amounts of threads on how weak these consoles are

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#2  Edited By Sgt_Crow
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- No virtual console but plenty of indie games to play, which are actual new games.

- Online works perfectly fine, which is all that counts. Yes, there's certain features lacking but it's free for now.

- Switch has loads of third party support when compared to previous Nintendo consoles, and more keeps coming.

- There's not that many Wii U ports yet. Plus a lot of gamers would appreciate it if they ported as much Wii U games as they can since barely anyone owned one.

- That's because Xbone and PS4 are more powerful. They are also not able to be taken with you. Honestly, are you really this stupid?

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#3 Pedro
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Because fanboys allow them and their are enough of these fanboys in journalism to cover Nintendo's asses.

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#4 deactivated-5c18005f903a1
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Because all reviewer and people that work on gaming sites are scared of Reggie.

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#5 deactivated-5c18005f903a1
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@Pedro: Exactly.

If you like something then you will except any crap that the company shits out.

How’s that xbox one by the way?

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#6 KungfuKitten
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@boycie: Vicious.

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#7 Sgt_Crow
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@Pedro said:

Because fanboys allow them and their are enough of these fanboys in journalism to cover Nintendo's asses.

Nothing screams fanboy like owning a pointless console.
Lolxbone.

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#8 Sam3231
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I dunno man they did just release that kirby allies game

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#9  Edited By Telekill
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I'm personally done waiting on Nintendo to get off their ass regarding Virtual Console. I've decided to buy a Raspberry Pi. The math is in favor of the Pi as well given that it has the ability to play thousands of games for a fraction of the cost Nintendo would/will rape their customers with.

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#10 SecretPolice
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Because, sheep are just so silly that way...

lol :P

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#11 kemar7856
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@Sgt_Crow said:

- No virtual console but plenty of indie games to play, which are actual new games.

- Online works perfectly fine, which is all that counts. Yes, there's certain features lacking but it's free for now.

- Switch has loads of third party support when compared to previous Nintendo consoles, and more keeps coming.

- There's not that many Wii U ports yet. Plus a lot of gamers would appreciate it if they ported as much Wii U games as they can since barely anyone owned one.

- That's because Xbone and PS4 are more powerful. They are also not able to be taken with you. Honestly, are you really this stupid?

i'm stupid?? yet you can't comprehend that I put that out as an example as how much we scrutinize them in comparsion. but you take it literally as a comparison to power man I hate you fanboys sometimes can't be objective to anything

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#12 N64DD
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@SecretPolice said:

Because, sheep are just so silly that way...

lol :P

Never seen that gif before.

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#13 GunSmith1_basic
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Nintendo has always been serving their consumer worse than the others. I love Nintendo but it is true. Nothing shows this more than their pricing. It takes so much longer for their games and hardware to fall in price, while it seems the other companies and PC gaming have a whole schedule of how a game price will fall. Sony and MS also have a philosophy that the lower the hardware price, the better, because then you can make up that cash with higher game sales. Nintendo doesn't have to believe the same philosophy as other companies, and can do whatever works for them, but it is true that the end result is anti-consumer

I also feel like their anti-piracy moves in the Switch went too far. They should have allowed saves and data on their game carts. It's just sad when you see over half of a game's size coming by update, and then that update data not even being on the cart. To me that is unacceptable.

It seems like the Switch could have been a great consumer-centric device but they largely rejected this idea.

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#14 Solaryellow
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In a manner of speaking it does have a VC if you like arcade releases and NEO Geo games.

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#15 stuff238
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Because Nintendo has the worst fanboys. These guys are obsessed with Nintendo. They will literally buy freaking $100 cardboard and trash mini games and praise it as the second coming.

These guys will justify it too with excuses like nostalgia and “I have kids now”. These guys are single handily keeping Nintendo alive because they basically refused to grow up.

They are not even real gamers. They are very close minded and just want to play the same games every 5 years.

These are the same guys that will quote that Lewis author and pretend playing kiddy games is more “mature” than playing CoD. LOL

These guys have been brainwashed by nintendo. It is quite fascinating to watch their obsession.

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@kemar7856 said:

Still no virtual console yikes

Lackluster online come on the OG xbox from 2002 had more online functions then this. you have to use your phone for online funtions come on man....

lack of third parties

Mass amount of Wii-U ports

nes/snes classics they couldn't even fix the resolution on the games they look terrible on modern tv's something any emulator can do.

for xbox/ps4 if a game is suppose to be 1080p but ends up being 900p we get endless amounts of threads on how weak these consoles are

Virtual console- agreed, and I'm super annoyed they're charging $8 for enhanced Super Mario Bros on the eShop. That's the kind of stuff I'm expecting to come with the online fee. If they're going to charge for individual virtual console games AGAIN when people already bought them on Wii, WiiU, and 3DS I'm not buying any though. Such a stupid backwards anti-consumer practice.

Lackluster online- somewhat agree. I've been happy with Mario Kart 8 and Rocket League online play. nice that it's free (for now). Really hoping they get Smash online perfect this time.

Lack of third parties- what third party games is the Switch in dire need of? It's definitely getting better, and I'm happy so far with the offerings and upcoming offerings. Big step up from past gens.

WiiU ports- I think the WiiU ports are great for people like me that didn't get to play many WiiU games. They're pretty dang good games.

The thing is a $300 portable, what did you expect in terms of power?

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@boycie said:

Because all reviewer and people that work on gaming sites are scared of Reggie.

I bet Reggie beat up nerds during high school

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#18 judaspete
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Yeah, you're going to have to pay the nostalgia tax for Nintendo products, much like the hipster tax for Apple stuff. But it's a price I'm willing to pay for games that most developers don't make anymore. Kickstarter has helped, with stuff like Yuka Lele and A Hat in Time, but goofy fun games are still largely Nintendo's domain.

Plus I don't game online, and split-screen is another thing Nintendo takes more seriously than the other major players.

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@Sgt_Crow said:

- No virtual console but plenty of indie games to play, which are actual new games.

- Online works perfectly fine, which is all that counts. Yes, there's certain features lacking but it's free for now.

- Switch has loads of third party support when compared to previous Nintendo consoles, and more keeps coming.

- There's not that many Wii U ports yet. Plus a lot of gamers would appreciate it if they ported as much Wii U games as they can since barely anyone owned one.

- That's because Xbone and PS4 are more powerful. They are also not able to be taken with you. Honestly, are you really this stupid?

you are literally proving op's point lmfao

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#20  Edited By Creepywelps
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@boycie: Damn!

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#21 henrythefifth
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Because all game critics grew up with Mario as their only friend.

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#22 Creepywelps
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Because they make quality games? If they put out shit like Xbox they'd be gone by now.

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#23 KungfuKitten
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@creepywelps: I think you may have won the argument.

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#24 Moistcarrot
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Nintoddlers don't demand better.

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#25 Basinboy
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No one else has Mario, Zelda, or Pokemon

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#26  Edited By pyro1245
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I dunno... People just take it and praise it, so you got me.

I sure as hell don't support their BS.

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#27  Edited By QuadKnight
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@Pedro said:

Because fanboys allow them and their are enough of these fanboys in journalism to cover Nintendo's asses.

Coming from a clown that bought an Xbone this is hilarious.

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#28 DaVillain  Moderator
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Nintendo is also good at "Getting away with Murder"

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#29 QuadKnight
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@boycie said:

@Pedro: Exactly.

If you like something then you will except any crap that the company shits out.

How’s that xbox one by the way?

?? Savage!!!!

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#30 hrt_rulz01
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Nostalgia is blinding.

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#31 Archangel3371
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I don’t see how anyone would feel that Nintendo “gets away” with these things. Most people complain about many of those things and Nintendo consoles typically get punished for them as well as evidenced by sales.

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#32 DaVillain  Moderator
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Nostalgia is blinding.

Yeah right.

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#33  Edited By PCgameruk
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Erm Nintendo isn't charging you to play online while they're working on a better online service. Splatoon 2 is one of the funniest online games out there. And its the dumb shits on thirdperstation and nogamesbox gaming got into this DLC lootbox mess.

Third parties games have gotten better and Nintendo exclusives are the main reason to play Nintendo. Want third parties then you should be gaming on PC.

Not a lot of people owned a Wii U let alone play the games, its the right thing to do putting them on the switch.

You moaning about resolution on games 35 years old?

The difference between Nintendo they care more about gameplay over graphics. A 280gram handheld has more 60fps games over current consoles. Why don't you talk about that instead?

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#34 stuff238
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@PCgameruk: Yawn at the “gameplay>graphics” excuse from Nintendo fans. That does not fly bro.

Nintendo is cheap and lazy. They offer ports and N64/GameCube graphics in HD.

Nintendo is so far behind everyone else it is baffling people continue to buy their overpriced trash.

Guess what? Sony/Microsoft/PC offer Gameplay/Graphics/Online/Sound and FUN games. We get the whole package while Nintendo fans suffer massive game droughts because Nintendo is the only company making anything for switch.

“Gameplay” is not the most important thing. The best games of all time excel in ALL areas. Gameplay=Graphics=Sound. That is a damn fact.

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This is the same fandom that's excited for cardboard, no price drops, toys, being on the tail end of a decent AAA experience, and are totally okay with no proper online. Reggie could come in and urinate on the Nintendo fans at E3 and they'd have jars ready to call it "collectors edition piss". Nintendo may be the only fandom that's beyond mere gaming, and may actually be closer to a religion.

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#37 Planeforger
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"No Virtual Console"

"Too many ports of old games"

C'mon now, you can't have it both ways.

If you're going to create fake outrage about something, you should at least be consistent about what you want.

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#38  Edited By deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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Why don't you take a step back and look at the likely causes for this.

1) The device was a risk and underestimated, therefore invested so heavily from the start wasn't likely to happen. just a "Get it out there and provide the games."

2) Wii U tanked, the Switch was likely alittle bit rushed out the door to get a second chance at the market.

3) OS/Memory/CPU limits ... If I recall the PS3 had "excuses" for not doing basic things XBOX did due to OS/hardware limitations... (ironically wasn't it voice chat?) ... Nintendo likely messed up here byt haivng to balance power for those features... future Switch revisions/next gen will likely resolve this... sadly.

This is the first generation of a big reboot for them. Meanwhile incremental playstation and xbox just keep building on a solid foundation.

Excuses? maybe.... but lets not pretend these things were magically in place on Sony's previous devices day one... PS2 LOL, PS3 .... had barely any constancy and plenty of quality of life issues when it came to online service.

To this day Playstations download speeds and general quality of service is lacking compared to MS/Steam/Etc.

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#39 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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Switch > PS4 and Xbox One

“Hardcore” gamers are struggling to accept the reality of the industry today. Nintendo is back and better than ever. 2017 was an insane year for Nintendo, and 2018 is off to a good start.

Enjoy your pixels and World War whatever shooters

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@Sgt_Crow said:

- No virtual console but plenty of indie games to play, which are actual new games.

- Online works perfectly fine, which is all that counts. Yes, there's certain features lacking but it's free for now.

- Switch has loads of third party support when compared to previous Nintendo consoles, and more keeps coming.

- There's not that many Wii U ports yet. Plus a lot of gamers would appreciate it if they ported as much Wii U games as they can since barely anyone owned one.

- That's because Xbone and PS4 are more powerful. They are also not able to be taken with you. Honestly, are you really this stupid?

-FOR NOW means shit when we know they are going to charge for a way sub par network. No excuses in 2018, stop defending this shyte

-How about compared to Peers? Thats what every other thread does like GOTY contenders. Don't cherry pick. Its ass as far as a well rounded system.

-LOL I read how "nobody wants to play old games" when it comes to Xbox but everyone want WiiU crap? Come on guys Captain Toad's ball bag is now on switch!!! YAAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!

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@Sgt_Crow said:

- No virtual console but plenty of indie games to play, which are actual new games.

- Online works perfectly fine, which is all that counts. Yes, there's certain features lacking but it's free for now.

- Switch has loads of third party support when compared to previous Nintendo consoles, and more keeps coming.

- There's not that many Wii U ports yet. Plus a lot of gamers would appreciate it if they ported as much Wii U games as they can since barely anyone owned one.

- That's because Xbone and PS4 are more powerful. They are also not able to be taken with you. Honestly, are you really this stupid?

Yup, pretty much.

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#43 so_hai
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When have they been dishonest about the Switch? What exactly have they gotten away with?

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#44 LuxuryHeart
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Nintendo doesn't get away with anything. The Wii U flopped for a reason. It set the message that most Nintendo won't just buy any console, hence most of them opted for the 3DS. If anything, Microsoft is getting away with shit. People constantly hound Nintendo about lack of new IPs. Um, they have created several new IPs and Microsoft has yet to create anything aside from Quantum Break and Sea of Thieves.

Nintendo fans constantly hound them for VC. During the entire Wii U gen, they were begging for VC and let the console flop.

Most fans want Wii U ports since they opted out of the Wii U in favor of the 3DS.

Hopefully they fix online soon since they will be charging for it. For now it's free, so I'm guessing most don't care.

Nintendo fans aren't making those threads sweetie. Sony fans are at the moment laughing at the fact that the Xbox One X had to do lower settings for 4K. Whatever the **** that means... Microsoft fans roast the PS4 Pro for being weaker. Why not take it up with them?

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#45 LuxuryHeart
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@stuff238 said:

Because Nintendo has the worst fanboys. These guys are obsessed with Nintendo. They will literally buy freaking $100 cardboard and trash mini games and praise it as the second coming.

These guys will justify it too with excuses like nostalgia and “I have kids now”. These guys are single handily keeping Nintendo alive because they basically refused to grow up.

They are not even real gamers. They are very close minded and just want to play the same games every 5 years.

These are the same guys that will quote that Lewis author and pretend playing kiddy games is more “mature” than playing CoD. LOL

These guys have been brainwashed by nintendo. It is quite fascinating to watch their obsession.

The Wii U flopped though along with the GameCube, so that disproves your point.

Nintendo has made new IPs and continues to get loads of new games from indie devs.

So because we prefer their games to COD, we're brain washed? This is coming from someone who like both (though only Zombies mode in COD, because that online multiplayer curve is too hard to overcome).

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#46 LuxuryHeart
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@Archangel3371 said:

I don’t see how anyone would feel that Nintendo “gets away” with these things. Most people complain about many of those things and Nintendo consoles typically get punished for them as well as evidenced by sales.

Exactly, the Wii U flopped and they had to regroup with the Switch. That's proof that they don't get away with anything. We basically complain about something and don't buy it. Simple as that. Nintendo can hopefully fix the problem, or risk a flop.

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#48  Edited By 93BlackHawk93
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@stuff238 said:

“Gameplay” is not the most important thing. The best games of all time excel in ALL areas. Gameplay=Graphics=Sound. That is a damn fact.

top kek

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#49  Edited By jaydan  Online
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"Nintendo gets away with anything." is a flawed argument that's not even true.

Sure, Nintendo got away with a failed console, the Wii U.

Sure, Nintendo got away with a flopped game like Star Fox Zero and The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword.

They got away with being in dead last place for more than a couple gens.

Honestly, Nintendo got away with a lot of failings.

Why does Nintendo get away with anything? I guess they at least take risks and sometimes for better or worse.

Stop playing the narrative that Nintendo gets away with anything. They don't. Nintendo fans on forums like these are not hyping cardboard, but it's still coming anyways.

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#50 nintendoboy16
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OP and several others in a nutshell: