Why isnt the 360 a runaway success?

$400

Hardware Failuredestef

Hardware Failuredestef

Because casuals don't spend $400 on video games.

There was a reason the PS2 and Xbox were $150 at the height of their popularity.

[QUOTE="destef"]Hardware Failurefalconclan

Definitely the $400 price tag. Alot of people I know are turned off by the high price tag. Hopefully next-gen Microsoft and Sony will have learned their lessons. $300 is the sweet spot. $250 even better - just look at how well the Wii is doing.

[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="destef"]Hardware Failuredestef

HARDWARE FAILURE

release halo 3Shatin

[QUOTE="Shatin"]release halo 3Carmilla31

[QUOTE="Shatin"]release halo 3Carmilla31

What is suprising is not the slow 360 unit sales, what is suprising (imo) is the crazy good attach ratio of games to systems sold. There may not be many owners but the people that do own it buy games like mad.

Serious doubt about the long term gameplan. Sony and Nintendo have previous success that consumers can remember.TekkenMaster606

I believe it's because of the hardware failure rates,the casuals are not buying 360s thus it is the hardcore gamers that are purchasing the console. And the hardcore market follow gaming news,and learning of an astounding failure rate is a very big turn off.Dualshockin

[QUOTE="destef"]Hardware Failurefalconclan

release halo 3Shatin

About 95% of the peoplewho wants Halo 3 already has a 360, so it wont sell alot more, maybe 1000 consoles.

Meanwhile, PS3 hasn't sold well because everyone is waiting for the good games, thats what people seem to forget and they bash it for absolutely no reason.

[QUOTE="Shatin"]release halo 3NaturalDeezism

About 95%of the peoplewho wants Halo 3 already has a 360, so it wont sell alot more, maybe 1000 consoles.

Meanwhile, PS3 hasn't sold well because everyone is waiting for the good games, thats what people seem to forget and they bash it for absolutely no reason.

As for the second part about PS3 :lol: keep kidding yourself. Its the price buddy.

The Wii is a console juggernaut pretty much demolishing everything. The PS3 is selling like garbage for two reasons, price and lack of games. So whats the 360s problem? The 360 has been selling 'ok' since its launch. It has awesome games, awesome graphics, and is priced pretty darn well for what you get. So why isnt it getting above average sales? The 360 isnt showing anything other than a console that will finish a meek #2 to the Wii. I really cant understand what the 360 can do better than what its currently doing...Carmilla31

Casuals are cheap, £280 is still too much for them to pay, expect better sales around Xmas and after Xmas 2007.

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[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="destef"]Hardware Failurefalconclan

HARDWARE FAILURE

Okay, get this. I am in a Wal Mart today actually I was at this same Wal Mart last week too. I go over to the games area to see if there is anything new out for the 360 or some price drops or something. Guess What???? The Xbox 360 sitting there in the display case for everyone to see and supposedly play has what??? You guessed it, the Dreaded Ring of Death. How many people/kids/casual gamers do you think may have seen that in a 2 week period?? Bet they were wondering what the problem was.

One other thing. I dont know about most people, but I usually investigate something on the internet before I spend $400+ on it. People use the internet more than you think. Especially if you are a casual gamer. I would expect they would look up info on the internet on all three systems and then makea choice. And what do you think the people at Gamestop and Bestbuy and Circuit City are going to tell these people when they ask them for their input? Yeah, I know they just want their money. But some of them are actually helpful and tell the truth. A very small minority I agree. But, hey.

the price factor can't be overlooked. even if it's a good deal, it's still expensive.CaseyWegner

So that means the PS3 is doomed then.

[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="destef"]

[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="destef"]Hardware Failuredestef

HARDWARE FAILURE

Okay, get this. I am in a Wal Mart today actually I was at this same Wal Mart last week too. I go over to the games area to see if there is anything new out for the 360 or some price drops or something. Guess What???? The Xbox 360 sitting there in the display case for everyone to see and supposedly play has what??? You guessed it, the Dreaded Ring of Death. How many people/kids/casual gamers do you think may have seen that in a 2 week period?? Bet they were wondering what the problem was.

One other thing. I dont know about most people, but I usually investigate something on the internet before I spend $400+ on it. People use the internet more than you think. Especially if you are a casual gamer. I would expect they would look up info on the internet on all three systems and then makea choice. And what do you think the people at Gamestop and Bestbuy and Circuit City are going to tell these people when they ask them for their input? Yeah, I know they just want their money. But some of them are actually helpful and tell the truth. A very small minority I agree. But, hey.

[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="destef"]

[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="destef"]Hardware Failuredestef

HARDWARE FAILURE

Okay, get this. I am in a Wal Mart today actually I was at this same Wal Mart last week too. I go over to the games area to see if there is anything new out for the 360 or some price drops or something. Guess What???? The Xbox 360 sitting there in the display case for everyone to see and supposedly play has what??? You guessed it, the Dreaded Ring of Death. How many people/kids/casual gamers do you think may have seen that in a 2 week period?? Bet they were wondering what the problem was.

The PS3 at my gamestop/eb gameshas been broken for months. That's a fact. Livonia Michigan Haggerty rd location. Call them if you do not believe me. In fact most of the times those display case consoles are broken no matter what system it is so you fail

[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="destef"]

Okay, get this. I am in a Wal Mart today actually I was at this same Wal Mart last week too. I go over to the games area to see if there is anything new out for the 360 or some price drops or something. Guess What???? The Xbox 360 sitting there in the display case for everyone to see and supposedly play has what??? You guessed it, the Dreaded Ring of Death. How many people/kids/casual gamers do you think may have seen that in a 2 week period?? Bet they were wondering what the problem was.

One other thing. I dont know about most people, but I usually investigate something on the internet before I spend $400+ on it. People use the internet more than you think. Especially if you are a casual gamer. I would expect they would look up info on the internet on all three systems and then makea choice. And what do you think the people at Gamestop and Bestbuy and Circuit City are going to tell these people when they ask them for their input? Yeah, I know they just want their money. But some of them are actually helpful and tell the truth. A very small minority I agree. But, hey.

destef

Back to the begining again. **HARDWARE FAILURE**

Price. Consumers have never been willing to pay as much as the 360 and PS3 cost for consoles.

Also .......Game Variety (and somewhat hardware failure as well)

[QUOTE="destef"][QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="destef"]

Okay, get this. I am in a Wal Mart today actually I was at this same Wal Mart last week too. I go over to the games area to see if there is anything new out for the 360 or some price drops or something. Guess What???? The Xbox 360 sitting there in the display case for everyone to see and supposedly play has what??? You guessed it, the Dreaded Ring of Death. How many people/kids/casual gamers do you think may have seen that in a 2 week period?? Bet they were wondering what the problem was.

One other thing. I dont know about most people, but I usually investigate something on the internet before I spend $400+ on it. People use the internet more than you think. Especially if you are a casual gamer. I would expect they would look up info on the internet on all three systems and then makea choice. And what do you think the people at Gamestop and Bestbuy and Circuit City are going to tell these people when they ask them for their input? Yeah, I know they just want their money. But some of them are actually helpful and tell the truth. A very small minority I agree. But, hey.

falconclan

Back to the begining again. **HARDWARE FAILURE**

That's why the Xbox 360 won't win ever...

It's time for the Lemmings to prepare the worst. Halo 3 won't save you. There was about 4 million preorders yet no significant console selling increase. It's been a 1 and half years and it barely sold 10 million.

I guess because the general public would rather pay $250.00 a console that plays teh mini-game collections and remakes with wii control tacked on........and still hasn't produced anything that is graphically head & shoulders above the Gamecube.joe_g_patton

Price, and the fact that it only appeals to shooter fans. If you want something other than shooters, then even the PS3 is better for you.

That's kinda sad.

That's why the Xbox 360 won't win ever...

It's time for the Lemmings to prepare the worst. Halo 3 won't save you. There was about 4 million preorders yet no significant console selling increase. It's been a 1 and half years and it barely sold 10 million.

XenogearsMaster

And how's your PS3 doing again? :lol:

exactly cow. If lemmings have to prepare for the worse then cows have to prepare for extinction

That's why the Xbox 360 won't win ever...

It's time for the Lemmings to prepare the worst. Halo 3 won't save you. There was about 4 million preorders yet no significant console selling increase. It's been a 1 and half years and it barely sold 10 million.

XenogearsMaster

Christmas last year the 360 ended up pushing over 100,000 units a week. That was with few awesome games at the time. This year, i imagine the same will happen only greater. Nobody shells out large sums of money for games consoles and the like in the middle of the summer. That's why nobody releases games in the summer. They all hold out for the christmas period.

This year, there'll be a cheaper 360, Halo 3, GTA4, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, BioShock; all kinds of killer games. Sales will increase hugely and it'll get the momentum it seems to have lost lately.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]the price factor can't be overlooked. even if it's a good deal, it's still expensive.PoppaLemming

So that means the PS3 is doomed then.

not necessarily. it is currently in trouble though.

Price, and the fact that it only appeals to shooter fans. If you want something other than shooters, then even the PS3 is better for you.

That's kinda sad.

Michael85

Well judging by the mounds and mounds of PS3's rotting on store shelves...

the PS3 appeals to NO ONE :lol: