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#101 XaosII
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[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="wemhim"]That's true. But I do experience MORE problems. Maybe you don't, but I do, I know games on consoles have problems too. But I experience less. And I just enjoy consoles more. They're simple, buy it and play games, with PCs, you have to what what you're buying, such as what CPU and GPU it uses. With a PS3, you don't. And that's fine that you like PCs, I don't care, but I don't see why I don't have the right to enjoy a console more, even if I do have misconseptions, that just shows how easier a console is, most people don't have misconseptions, because it's so easy. I have misconseptions about assembling mines, thus I don't do it. And that's great you don't have misconseptions. You're educated about it then, good, I'm not. And personally, I don't really care for getting educated about it. Just like I don't care about getting educated on how to paint, because that's not one of my interests, just like PC gaming isn't one of mine. wemhim

And thats why you fall largely on reason #3.

Alright, that's fine. However, everybody is ignorant to something, and the fact is, being ignorant to that won't lower my quality of life. I know how to speak, eat, I know how to pay a bill, how to apply for a loan, and what a credit score is, I know how to put on clothes, I know how to do everything I need in life. I don't need to learn how to game on a PC. I don't want to either, you may want to, because it interests you a lot, personally, it doesn't interest me a whole bunch. For example, drawing a chicken isn't very hard to learn, but I don't know how, because I don't care for drawing a chicken. Just like don't care much for playing games on PC.

I understand that.....so stop talking about it and spreading further misconceptions.

I havent played a handheld game since the original B& Gameboy. I dont have any interest in handhelds and im completely ignorant about them. But you know what? I dont go around bashing the DS and the PSP or saying why consoles and PC's are so much better than handhelds. I dont go around spreading lies and misinformation about the DS like "It doesnt have any good games!" or doing the equivalent of what you are saying "its such a hassle having to deal with batteries on handhelds."

You know that argument so many console gamers make, as well as you did, of "i'd rather play it on my couch"? Thats would be like me saying "I dont like handhelds because i'd rather play games on my couch." I'd be a moron to say that. Thats how console gamers come off most of the time talking about PC gaming. 

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#102 wemhim
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[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="wemhim"]That's true. But I do experience MORE problems. Maybe you don't, but I do, I know games on consoles have problems too. But I experience less. And I just enjoy consoles more. They're simple, buy it and play games, with PCs, you have to what what you're buying, such as what CPU and GPU it uses. With a PS3, you don't. And that's fine that you like PCs, I don't care, but I don't see why I don't have the right to enjoy a console more, even if I do have misconseptions, that just shows how easier a console is, most people don't have misconseptions, because it's so easy. I have misconseptions about assembling mines, thus I don't do it. And that's great you don't have misconseptions. You're educated about it then, good, I'm not. And personally, I don't really care for getting educated about it. Just like I don't care about getting educated on how to paint, because that's not one of my interests, just like PC gaming isn't one of mine. Vandalvideo

And thats why you fall largely on reason #3.

Alright, that's fine. However, everybody is ignorant to something, and the fact is, being ignorant to that won't lower my quality of life. I know how to speak, eat, I know how to pay a bill, how to apply for a loan, and what a credit score is, I know how to put on clothes, I know how to do everything I need in life. I don't need to learn how to game on a PC. I don't want to either, you may want to, because it interests you a lot, personally, it doesn't interest me a whole bunch. For example, drawing a chicken isn't very hard to learn, but I don't know how, because I don't care for drawing a chicken. Just like don't care much for playing games on PC.

WHY don't you enjoy playing games on PC? You can hook it up to TVs, play from couches, use gamepads on every game, have slpit screen multiplayer, have the largest catalog of high quality and exclusive titles, huge back catalog, etc. Why don't you enjoy it? Pray-tell.

It's just because not enough games interest me. I think Crysis look awesome, I think there will also be some other great games, but just not enough. For the PS3, 360, and the Wii, I have much more games to choose from, the PC has enough games to choose from, just not enough for me. And yes, I am ignorant when it comes to PC gaming(At least I admit it), maybe if I was a little more knowledgable when it comes to that, I would want a high end PC a little more, however, even then, there would be only so many games. It's kind of like buying a 360 for Saints Row and PDZ. The PC just doesn't have a whole lot of games that interest me. It has some, but not enough to invest money in, if I became an actor, I would probably buy one. Because then, even if I only bought two games, it wouldn't matter, because I would be so rich I could throw a 100 dollar bill in the sewer. But now, I need a lot of reasons to invest in one. However, there is actually a lot of PC games that do interest me, but most are mulitplat, so they're still console games, and mostly superior on PC, however, games like MGS4, RE5, and GTAIV(It may come to PC, but I need it right away) to me, are worth more than 12 awesome PC games, because well, MGS, RE, and GTA are three of my favorite franchises. And then I can add some multiplat games that appear on PC as well to that list, without buying a PS3, 360, Wii, and high end PC, I can have a PS3, 360, Wii, and low end PC. I don't make a lot of money.....
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#103 wemhim
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[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="wemhim"]That's true. But I do experience MORE problems. Maybe you don't, but I do, I know games on consoles have problems too. But I experience less. And I just enjoy consoles more. They're simple, buy it and play games, with PCs, you have to what what you're buying, such as what CPU and GPU it uses. With a PS3, you don't. And that's fine that you like PCs, I don't care, but I don't see why I don't have the right to enjoy a console more, even if I do have misconseptions, that just shows how easier a console is, most people don't have misconseptions, because it's so easy. I have misconseptions about assembling mines, thus I don't do it. And that's great you don't have misconseptions. You're educated about it then, good, I'm not. And personally, I don't really care for getting educated about it. Just like I don't care about getting educated on how to paint, because that's not one of my interests, just like PC gaming isn't one of mine. XaosII

And thats why you fall largely on reason #3.

Alright, that's fine. However, everybody is ignorant to something, and the fact is, being ignorant to that won't lower my quality of life. I know how to speak, eat, I know how to pay a bill, how to apply for a loan, and what a credit score is, I know how to put on clothes, I know how to do everything I need in life. I don't need to learn how to game on a PC. I don't want to either, you may want to, because it interests you a lot, personally, it doesn't interest me a whole bunch. For example, drawing a chicken isn't very hard to learn, but I don't know how, because I don't care for drawing a chicken. Just like don't care much for playing games on PC.

I understand that.....so stop talking about it and spreading further misconceptions.

I havent played a handheld game since the original B& Gameboy. I dont have any interest in handhelds and im completely ignorant about them. But you know what? I dont go around bashing the DS and the PSP or saying why consoles and PC's are so much better than handhelds. I dont go around spreading lies and misinformation about the DS like "It doesnt have any good games!" or doing the equivalent of what you are saying "its such a hassle having to deal with batteries on handhelds."

Well, yes..... That's true.... You win. But, I'm not saying it has bad games, just not games that suit my tastes. Just like I prefer blondes over others. If someone prefers brunettes, great. But, the part about stating a hassle that actually isn't there....Well my mistake. I was misinformed.
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#104 XaosII
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Well, yes..... That's true.... You win. But, I'm not saying it has bad games, just not games that suit my tastes. Just like I prefer blondes over others. If someone prefers brunettes, great. But, the part about stating a hassle that actually isn't there....Well my mistake. I was misinformed. wemhim

You're right. And theres no reason to talk about redheads if neither of us dont know much about redheads. 

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#105 br0kenrabbit
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i play console because games were meant for consoles, you can play with your friends in the same room, i like the controls better, it's simpler, you just stick the game in and play, and there are no problems like viruses and you never put a game in and have a black screen come up with only the audio or something like that
happens to PCs all the time
by the way, i did used to be a PC gamer, ive had like 40 PC games starting with quake 3tarsier888
I haven't had a Virus since Windows 98. The only people I know who get viruses are Limewire uses and such, and people who have to download anything and everything. I install my OS, my drivers, my utilities (Winamp, Ifranview, 7Zip, etc.), my games and music and that's it. No IM, no Widgets or Toolbars or Search Buddies. Haven't had a virus in years. Also, at my age when friends do come over, it's the kids who play games and we adults do other things. When kids aren't around, we're probably bowling or out shooting pool. Playing games with friends at home simply doesn't factor into the equation. But most of my male friends are PC gamers, so if I want to spend some play time with them, I just wait till the kids go to bed and then log on.
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#106 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="wemhim"]That's true. But I do experience MORE problems. Maybe you don't, but I do, I know games on consoles have problems too. But I experience less. And I just enjoy consoles more. They're simple, buy it and play games, with PCs, you have to what what you're buying, such as what CPU and GPU it uses. With a PS3, you don't. And that's fine that you like PCs, I don't care, but I don't see why I don't have the right to enjoy a console more, even if I do have misconseptions, that just shows how easier a console is, most people don't have misconseptions, because it's so easy. I have misconseptions about assembling mines, thus I don't do it. And that's great you don't have misconseptions. You're educated about it then, good, I'm not. And personally, I don't really care for getting educated about it. Just like I don't care about getting educated on how to paint, because that's not one of my interests, just like PC gaming isn't one of mine. wemhim

And thats why you fall largely on reason #3.

Alright, that's fine. However, everybody is ignorant to something, and the fact is, being ignorant to that won't lower my quality of life. I know how to speak, eat, I know how to pay a bill, how to apply for a loan, and what a credit score is, I know how to put on clothes, I know how to do everything I need in life. I don't need to learn how to game on a PC. I don't want to either, you may want to, because it interests you a lot, personally, it doesn't interest me a whole bunch. For example, drawing a chicken isn't very hard to learn, but I don't know how, because I don't care for drawing a chicken. Just like don't care much for playing games on PC.

WHY don't you enjoy playing games on PC? You can hook it up to TVs, play from couches, use gamepads on every game, have slpit screen multiplayer, have the largest catalog of high quality and exclusive titles, huge back catalog, etc. Why don't you enjoy it? Pray-tell.

It's just because not enough games interest me. I think Crysis look awesome, I think there will also be some other great games, but just not enough. For the PS3, 360, and the Wii, I have much more games to choose from, the PC has enough games to choose from, just not enough for me. And yes, I am ignorant when it comes to PC gaming(At least I admit it), maybe if I was a little more knowledgable when it comes to that, I would want a high end PC a little more, however, even then, there would be only so many games. It's kind of like buying a 360 for Saints Row and PDZ. The PC just doesn't have a whole lot of games that interest me. It has some, but not enough to invest money in, if I became an actor, I would probably buy one. Because then, even if I only bought two games, it wouldn't matter, because I would be so rich I could throw a 100 dollar bill in the sewer. But now, I need a lot of reasons to invest in one. However, there is actually a lot of PC games that do interest me, but most are mulitplat, so they're still console games, and mostly superior on PC, however, games like MGS4, RE5, and GTAIV(It may come to PC, but I need it right away) to me, are worth more than 12 awesome PC games, because well, MGS, RE, and GTA are three of my favorite franchises. And then I can add some multiplat games that appear on PC as well to that list, without buying a PS3, 360, Wii, and high end PC, I can have a PS3, 360, Wii, and low end PC. I don't make a lot of money.....

You have to look at accumulative costs and understand investment when talking about money. Yes, PC gaming is more expensive up front. However, over time thanks to cheaper games with longer shelf lives it can easily be less expensive. Iknow I've spend less on my PC than my 360. If its a matter of money, over a logner period of time PC gaming is cheaper. I still find it incredibly hard to believe there aren't many games taht interest you int he LARGEST catalog with EVERY genre represented.
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#107 wemhim
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[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="wemhim"]That's true. But I do experience MORE problems. Maybe you don't, but I do, I know games on consoles have problems too. But I experience less. And I just enjoy consoles more. They're simple, buy it and play games, with PCs, you have to what what you're buying, such as what CPU and GPU it uses. With a PS3, you don't. And that's fine that you like PCs, I don't care, but I don't see why I don't have the right to enjoy a console more, even if I do have misconseptions, that just shows how easier a console is, most people don't have misconseptions, because it's so easy. I have misconseptions about assembling mines, thus I don't do it. And that's great you don't have misconseptions. You're educated about it then, good, I'm not. And personally, I don't really care for getting educated about it. Just like I don't care about getting educated on how to paint, because that's not one of my interests, just like PC gaming isn't one of mine. Vandalvideo

And thats why you fall largely on reason #3.

Alright, that's fine. However, everybody is ignorant to something, and the fact is, being ignorant to that won't lower my quality of life. I know how to speak, eat, I know how to pay a bill, how to apply for a loan, and what a credit score is, I know how to put on clothes, I know how to do everything I need in life. I don't need to learn how to game on a PC. I don't want to either, you may want to, because it interests you a lot, personally, it doesn't interest me a whole bunch. For example, drawing a chicken isn't very hard to learn, but I don't know how, because I don't care for drawing a chicken. Just like don't care much for playing games on PC.

WHY don't you enjoy playing games on PC? You can hook it up to TVs, play from couches, use gamepads on every game, have slpit screen multiplayer, have the largest catalog of high quality and exclusive titles, huge back catalog, etc. Why don't you enjoy it? Pray-tell.

It's just because not enough games interest me. I think Crysis look awesome, I think there will also be some other great games, but just not enough. For the PS3, 360, and the Wii, I have much more games to choose from, the PC has enough games to choose from, just not enough for me. And yes, I am ignorant when it comes to PC gaming(At least I admit it), maybe if I was a little more knowledgable when it comes to that, I would want a high end PC a little more, however, even then, there would be only so many games. It's kind of like buying a 360 for Saints Row and PDZ. The PC just doesn't have a whole lot of games that interest me. It has some, but not enough to invest money in, if I became an actor, I would probably buy one. Because then, even if I only bought two games, it wouldn't matter, because I would be so rich I could throw a 100 dollar bill in the sewer. But now, I need a lot of reasons to invest in one. However, there is actually a lot of PC games that do interest me, but most are mulitplat, so they're still console games, and mostly superior on PC, however, games like MGS4, RE5, and GTAIV(It may come to PC, but I need it right away) to me, are worth more than 12 awesome PC games, because well, MGS, RE, and GTA are three of my favorite franchises. And then I can add some multiplat games that appear on PC as well to that list, without buying a PS3, 360, Wii, and high end PC, I can have a PS3, 360, Wii, and low end PC. I don't make a lot of money.....

You have to look at accumulative costs and understand investment when talking about money. Yes, PC gaming is more expensive up front. However, over time thanks to cheaper games with longer shelf lives it can easily be less expensive. Iknow I've spend less on my PC than my 360. If its a matter of money, over a logner period of time PC gaming is cheaper. I still find it incredibly hard to believe there aren't many games taht interest you int he LARGEST catalog with EVERY genre represented.

Well, there is many. Just not as much as consoles. And yeah it's generally cheaper, but basically, I have to have consoles, because there's so many games that I just really really want. So if I have a 500 dollar PC, 600 dollar PS3, 400 dollar 360, and 250 dollar Wii, it will add up to 1750, if I added 500 dollars to the PC to make it 2250 total. I would have to pay that much more. However, if I were to buy a 1000 dollar PC, but not buy a Wii, PS3, or 360, it would be much cheaper, however, I really really want those. So, in the end, even if I had a really nice PC, I would still want those a lot, so I agree that the PC is cheaper, if you don't also buy all 3 consoles. For example, if the 3 consoles were discontinued, then I could get MGS4, RE5, and GTAIV on the PC. However, now, I HAVE to buy a console to get those games, so, I agree that PCs are better, so, I personally think it would be a good thing to not have consoles, then I would need one machine to play all my games, but unfortunatley, I need 3 machines to play the games I want, thus making it expensive.
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#108 Vandalvideo
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Wemhem: Who said anything about purchasing multiple consoles? A PC can be cheaper over time than ONE console. I've spent about 1400 all together including costs of games, repairs, etc. My PC has only cost me roughly 1.2K. I made it as fair as possible by buying as many games as it would take on the console to equal the ammount of sheer diverging content the average PC game. Add on to the fact that PC games are innately cheaper. PC games just last longer. My 360? 1 year old. My PC? 2 years old. Yet I've spent more on my 360 in an attempt to even scratch the ammount of content I could get with a PC. Price is really irrelevant. Again, I'm not giong to say you're wrong for saying games on the PC don't interset you, but I will say logically and statiscally speaking that just seems illogical. We have the most exclusive titles, most high quality titles, and every genre. How can you NOT be looking forward to more games on the PC logically? Again, I have never stated PC is better.
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#109 wemhim
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That's true Vandal. But I all I mean is, I really really want all 3 consoles. I know a PC can be cheaper than one console. But if I were to buy all 3 consoles, and a cheap PC, it would be cheap, but if I buy all 3 and a PC that's only 100 more dollars than the original PC, I would still have to spend 100 more dollars. Personally, I would hope that console gaming would end, so I could play Mario, Zelda, Halo, Metal Gear Solid, and all that on one machine. But now, I have to own 4 machines, 3 for gaming, and one for multimedia, if I were to add high end gaming to the PC, it would cost more, however, hypothetically speaking, if I thought the 360 was a piece of crap, I could take that funding and make it a really good PC, however, I really want all three consoles. Basically, it's not the consoles I like, it's the games, if every game I like on the consoles appaerd on PCs, I would only need to spend a little on my gaming needs, but now, I'm forced to buy a PS3 for MGS4.

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#110 Vandalvideo
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That's true Vandal. But I all I mean is, I really really want all 3 consoles. I know a PC can be cheaper than one console. But if I were to buy all 3 consoles, and a cheap PC, it would be cheap, but if I buy all 3 and a PC that's only 100 more dollars than the original PC, I would still have to spend 100 more dollars. Personally, I would hope that console gaming would end, so I could play Mario, Zelda, Halo, Metal Gear Solid, and all that on one machine. But now, I have to own 4 machines, 3 for gaming, and one for multimedia, if I were to add high end gaming to the PC, it would cost more, however, hypothetically speaking, if I thought the 360 was a piece of crap, I could take that funding and make it a really good PC, however, I really want all three consoles.

wemhim
Welcome to the only valid reasons why someone would ever choose consles over PCs. That is, mere preference. There are no logical facts that make consoles better than PCs. PCs can do everything consoles can do. The only way you can get around this is say "I prefer consoles". Still, its an arguement with very little backbone. I have nothing to say in that regards.
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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]

People with extreme gaming PCs seem to think they are getting a better deal and gaming experience than console gamers and dont seem to understand why people by consoles.

i buy gaming consoles because not only are they sooOOO much cheaper, but in a years time when your gaming PCs all dusty and struggling to play the new PC games even with your new $150 graphics card my console can still play the newest games. Has anyone got a PC that is as old as a ps2 that you havent spent **** loads upgrading? i think not.your the ones being ripped off.

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1. Gothic 3 is now confirmed for 360 and probably PS3 too

2. Dragon Age has a 99.999% chance to arrive on 360 too

3. Crysis in some form will be on 360 as well

4. The MAIN reason i will buy all consoles in the end, and never a pc is what matters most, GAMES, can i play Fable 2, Mass Effect, FF13, White Knight, Ninja Gaiden 2, Lost Odyssey on PC ? No sir

I cant belive how retarded of an argument you can make. You are "99.999% sure" that Dragon Age will go to the 360, but Mass Effect and Fable 2 arent?

And what the hell kind of a skewed argument are you trying to make comparing 3 systems to one. Yeah its a huge shock that 3 platforms have more games than one.... I dont recall PC being mutually exclusive with consoles.

And despite all that PC STILL gets more AAA titles every year than any other system. 

Who said they aren't ??? I am sure they are, as i am sure Dragon Age is coming to 360, point is 360 will get ALL pc games i care for, PC will get 50% of 360 games i care for, GET THE POINT ?????

PC costs as much as PS3+360+Wii, so why would i not compare all those games with pc lineup ?

I do not care if PC get "more AAA titles", if those titles are ZZZ for me, you can have them, so far the only AAA titles i want from pc, are Hellgate, Crysis, Dragon Age, Gothic 3, Spore only those are AAA FOR ME, and most will end up to consoles, in consoles on the other hand they are like 100 games i would never miss, 50 of which pc DOES NOT GET

The difference is CRASHING, pc has nothing comparing, it is pure joke to waste money on one, unless you have them in tons

 

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#112 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]

People with extreme gaming PCs seem to think they are getting a better deal and gaming experience than console gamers and dont seem to understand why people by consoles.

i buy gaming consoles because not only are they sooOOO much cheaper, but in a years time when your gaming PCs all dusty and struggling to play the new PC games even with your new $150 graphics card my console can still play the newest games. Has anyone got a PC that is as old as a ps2 that you havent spent **** loads upgrading? i think not.your the ones being ripped off.

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1. Gothic 3 is now confirmed for 360 and probably PS3 too

2. Dragon Age has a 99.999% chance to arrive on 360 too

3. Crysis in some form will be on 360 as well

4. The MAIN reason i will buy all consoles in the end, and never a pc is what matters most, GAMES, can i play Fable 2, Mass Effect, FF13, White Knight, Ninja Gaiden 2, Lost Odyssey on PC ? No sir

I cant belive how retarded of an argument you can make. You are "99.999% sure" that Dragon Age will go to the 360, but Mass Effect and Fable 2 arent?

And what the hell kind of a skewed argument are you trying to make comparing 3 systems to one. Yeah its a huge shock that 3 platforms have more games than one.... I dont recall PC being mutually exclusive with consoles.

And despite all that PC STILL gets more AAA titles every year than any other system. 

Who said they aren't ??? I am sure they are, as i am sure Dragon Age is coming to 360, point is 360 will get ALL pc games i care for, PC will get 50% of 360 games i care for, GET THE POINT ?????

PC costs as much as PS3+360+Wii, so why would i not compare all those games with pc lineup ?

I do not care if PC get "more AAA titles", if those titles are ZZZ for me, you can have them, so far the only AAA titles i want from pc, are Hellgate, Crysis, Dragon Age, Gothic 3, Spore only those are AAA FOR ME, and most will end up to consoles, in consoles on the other hand they are like 100 games i would never miss, 50 of which pc DOES NOT GET

The difference is CRASHING, pc has nothing comparing, it is pure joke to waste money on one, unless you have them in tons

 

Anyone want to start taking bets how long it will take for above incarnation of Nassos to get banned :D Anyway...I feel your pain, only in diffrent way. PC will get 100% of 360 games I want, while 360 will get 5% of pc games i want

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Everyone is so arrogant here. This is the kind of thread that I hate.
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#114 naval
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Wemhim: There are not that many games that interest you on the platform that has the MOST announced exclusives and the MOST high quality titles? I just find that hard to believe. VERY hard to believe.Vandalvideo

 Wow man, you must hav become tired .. answering the same questions over and over again

 

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With most things in life, the more you put in the more you get out. PC gaming is a classic example.
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#116 smokeydabear076
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Everyone is so arrogant here. This is the kind of thread that I hate.pandorax1
You must be arrogant too.;)
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#118 rpg9000owner
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[QUOTE="rpg9000owner"]With most things in life, the more you put in the more you get out. PC gaming is a classic example.duncanvk
Opinion. These are all just elaborate opinions, I have tons of friends that love consoles and get more than they ever could out of a PC just because they have issues understanding it. I love PC's and consoles personally but would choose all three consoles over a PC easily.

There is alot more depth to PC gaming like simple modifications to total conversions. For example there is a flashlight mod for Doom 3 (an example of useful little modifications). Or you can play as an insect on a beach with the source engine (an example of a free total conversion mod). You can even make your own content and maps. There is hardly any restriction to PC gaming. What I ment was, PC gaming is harder to get into but there is also alot more to PC gaming. I'm not saying that it's better (which imo it is) I'm saying there is more to PC gaming..
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#119 ShaDoW56
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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"] There's not one game that interests me on the consoles....not one. .Mass_Effect

Wow. What do you play on your PC then? In fact, why do you even play games?

i agree with him, pc games are simply superior in my opinion, console games always have this dumbed-down-3-year-old-could-play-it-feel to them, sure not all of them have it, but most do, and it sucks
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#120 ShaDoW56
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[QUOTE="duncanvk"][QUOTE="rpg9000owner"]With most things in life, the more you put in the more you get out. PC gaming is a classic example.rpg9000owner
Opinion. These are all just elaborate opinions, I have tons of friends that love consoles and get more than they ever could out of a PC just because they have issues understanding it. I love PC's and consoles personally but would choose all three consoles over a PC easily.

There is alot more depth to PC gaming like simple modifications to total conversions. For example there is a flashlight mod for Doom 3 (an example of useful little modifications). Or you can play as an insect on a beach with the source engine (an example of a free total conversion mod). You can even make your own content and maps. There is hardly any restriction to PC gaming. What I ment was, PC gaming is harder to get into but there is also alot more to PC gaming. I'm not saying that it's better (which imo it is) I'm saying there is more to PC gaming..

summary:you can do ANYTHING with a pc

 with a console you can only do what the devs tell you, you can do

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#122 rpg9000owner
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I can read thank you, there is a huge amout of depth and lack of restriction in PC gaming. Only an idiot would disagree, I re read my comment and realized it didn't make as much sense as when I was typing it. What I meant to say is as much as I love my PC and gaming on the PC in general, it is too complicated for the average GeOW and RFOM player. In fact it's just really complicated for a lot of casuals. It's an entire world within itself and I don't feel PC's should be compared to consoles as an entertainment medium in the respect of a casual pick up and play experience.
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That is true, the PC gaming market has always been niche, however this can also work to PC gamers advantage. Many console games are dumbed down because the developers want the game to appeal to the type of gamers you are talking about, like casuals. Not to say the PC gaming market is small or anything, its actually quite large. Especially in Europe. However the PC gaming market has hardly any casuals, which is what now most of the market is made up of.
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#123 greg_splicer
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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]

People with extreme gaming PCs seem to think they are getting a better deal and gaming experience than console gamers and dont seem to understand why people by consoles.

i buy gaming consoles because not only are they sooOOO much cheaper, but in a years time when your gaming PCs all dusty and struggling to play the new PC games even with your new $150 graphics card my console can still play the newest games. Has anyone got a PC that is as old as a ps2 that you havent spent **** loads upgrading? i think not.your the ones being ripped off.

AdrianWerner

 

1. Gothic 3 is now confirmed for 360 and probably PS3 too

2. Dragon Age has a 99.999% chance to arrive on 360 too

3. Crysis in some form will be on 360 as well

4. The MAIN reason i will buy all consoles in the end, and never a pc is what matters most, GAMES, can i play Fable 2, Mass Effect, FF13, White Knight, Ninja Gaiden 2, Lost Odyssey on PC ? No sir

I cant belive how retarded of an argument you can make. You are "99.999% sure" that Dragon Age will go to the 360, but Mass Effect and Fable 2 arent?

And what the hell kind of a skewed argument are you trying to make comparing 3 systems to one. Yeah its a huge shock that 3 platforms have more games than one.... I dont recall PC being mutually exclusive with consoles.

And despite all that PC STILL gets more AAA titles every year than any other system. 

Who said they aren't ??? I am sure they are, as i am sure Dragon Age is coming to 360, point is 360 will get ALL pc games i care for, PC will get 50% of 360 games i care for, GET THE POINT ?????

PC costs as much as PS3+360+Wii, so why would i not compare all those games with pc lineup ?

I do not care if PC get "more AAA titles", if those titles are ZZZ for me, you can have them, so far the only AAA titles i want from pc, are Hellgate, Crysis, Dragon Age, Gothic 3, Spore only those are AAA FOR ME, and most will end up to consoles, in consoles on the other hand they are like 100 games i would never miss, 50 of which pc DOES NOT GET

The difference is CRASHING, pc has nothing comparing, it is pure joke to waste money on one, unless you have them in tons

 

Anyone want to start taking bets how long it will take for above incarnation of Nassos to get banned :D Anyway...I feel your pain, only in diffrent way. PC will get 100% of 360 games I want, while 360 will get 5% of pc games i want

 

So, which are your most wanted PC only games ?? Might we know them ?

Mine on 360 are Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Cry On, Infinite Undiscovery, Too Human, Viva Pinata, Ninaj Gaiden 2

and on PS3 are FF13, White Knight,Unknown Realms, MGS4, Killzone 2, Angel Rings etc etc


and of course getting Fable 2, Mass Effect 1-2-3, Halo 3, YEARS earlier !!!!

and all pc games i want like Two Worlds, Ovrelord, Elveon, Precursors, Sacred 2, Gothic 3 and coming soon Dragon Age, Dark Messaih and Hellgate London

So, ok, you do NOT want games like Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Cry On, Infinite Undiscovery, Too Human, Viva Pinata, Ninaj Gaiden 2 or FF13, White Knight,Unknown Realms, MGS4, Killzone 2, Angel Ring, but you like pc games we know nothing of

So, which games are those ?

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#124 evilbarbarian
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I find this biggest overexaggeration console sheep use is that you have to 'install' PC games. All you have to do is pop the game in, and click accept a couple of times. It takes 2 minutes, and then you're off and playing for hours and hours. Get over it.

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#125 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="XaosII"]

Ill tell you why people choose consoles over PC:

1) They games dont appeal to them.

2) They cant afford it (however, anyone that can buy either a PS3 or a 360 can afford to be a PC gamer)

3) They are ignorant.

There are no other reasons beyond that. Most, sadly, fall into #3.

free2forum

4) People who have friends and invite them over to have a blast on games like SSBM, Mario Kart, and Halo 2.

Yah us 18 year old and no doubt the older gamers are down Pubs, with girlfriends/boyfriends either way we are not still in our rooms playing SSBM and Halowith eachother.

 This Console Generation is a flop, and the PC is damaged in the process, but PC Gaming is already leap frogging it, developers who want to create the next greatest things (Gears of War was the Xbox's limit, or Unreal Tournement 3 ... 24 players lol) will be doing it on the PC and you will be seeing it on your Xbox720 in 5 years time.

Console gaming is more expensive in europe, when you compare british pounds to US dollars ... the PRemium Xbox alone is $560 ... then $90 per game, that likely last about 10-15 hours ... what a rip..

Xbox360 = 10 million in 1.5 years ... What a failure, overpriced budget PC with limit gameplay.

PS3 = Took a risk, has nearly knocked them out of this generation, barely any games, MGS4 - Thank god its the final one, FF12432408327427340237408732408723 - *Yawns* Halo 3 & Halo Milkage Wars ...

Your games are even more limited than ours in quanity and quality, and they cost more, everything about console gaming is a rip off this generation, thank god I stopped at the PS2 tbh.

Nintendo on the other hand, are now free to get away with lack of tech advancement, because of the new controls, good for them, bad for the 2 Budget PCs.

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#126 dalscowboys22
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i have a good gaming pc but i only use it for one game and thats oblivion. its just better on the console IMO!!
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#127 Silvereign
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I can tell you why I choose a console over a PC.

 

No hassle.  Virus programs, firewalls, Anti -  SPyware. Etc. Etc. Controllers, I played War Craft 3, Command and Conquer games, Final Fantasy online, etc. etc.. Let me tell you it was FUN.

Overall.... PC is superior plain and simple and more fun,  but its a little too much of a hassle. I go to the store buy the console and a game come home hook it up and play. Simple as that. Now If I want those extra features like high definition then I go and buy a high definition T.V. If I want movie theater qualty sound system then I oh I already have the speakers:). I don't know what is wrong with Hermits saying oh you need a high def T.V and 40 controllers. It depends on the individual gamer what makes what expensive. Though PC is generally more expensive by a good amount. 

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#128 Vandalvideo
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I can tell you why I choose a console over a PC.

 

No hassle.  Virus programs, firewalls, Anti -  SPyware. Etc. Etc. Controllers, I played War Craft 3, Command and Conquer games, Final Fantasy online, etc. etc.. Let me tell you it was FUN.

Overall.... PC is superior plain and simple and more fun,  but its a little too much of a hassle. I go to the store buy the console and a game come home hook it up and play. Simple as that. Now If I want those extra features like high definition then I go and buy a high definition T.V. If I want movie theater qualty sound system then I oh I already have the speakers:). I don't know what is wrong with Hermits saying oh you need a high def T.V and 40 controllers. It depends on the individual gamer what makes what expensive. Though PC is generally more expensive by a good amount. 

Silvereign
Asside from the fact that PCs can hook up to your regular console set up, be as easy to use as consoles, and are only as insecure as the person behind the wheel.
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#129 NobuoMusicMaker
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Whatever you are using the post your message can play Starcraft.

Starcraft > all console games. 

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#130 AdrianWerner
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So, which are your most wanted PC only games ?? Might we know them ?

Mine on 360 are Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Cry On, Infinite Undiscovery, Too Human, Viva Pinata, Ninaj Gaiden 2

and on PS3 are FF13, White Knight,Unknown Realms, MGS4, Killzone 2, Angel Rings etc etc


and of course getting Fable 2, Mass Effect 1-2-3, Halo 3, YEARS earlier !!!!

and all pc games i want like Two Worlds, Ovrelord, Elveon, Precursors, Sacred 2, Gothic 3 and coming soon Dragon Age, Dark Messaih and Hellgate London

So, ok, you do NOT want games like Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Cry On, Infinite Undiscovery, Too Human, Viva Pinata, Ninaj Gaiden 2 or FF13, White Knight,Unknown Realms, MGS4, Killzone 2, Angel Ring, but you like pc games we know nothing of

So, which games are those ?
greg_splicer


My most wanted? Here's top30 in no real order

Gray Matter
Kings Bounty
World in Conflict
Drakensang
Storm of War: Battle of Britain
Alien Swarm: Infested
Mata Hari
Jack Keane
Overclocked,
Vampyre Story
Crossing
Bohemia's Game2
Hellgate
COmbat Mission: Shockforce
Gish 2
Enemy Engaged 2
Jagged Alliance 3
Natural Selection 2
Gobliiins 4
Disciples 3
Fool and his money
Knights of the Sky
Universe at War
Battlestar Galactica: Beyond the Red Line
Wing Commander SAGA
Experience112
Sins of Solar Empires
The Lost Crown
Sinking Island
Blackfoot Studios Unnamed project

As you can see awful lot of adventure games and simulators, genres that simply don't exist on 360.The same with puzzle games( I've listed only one, because great puzzle games on PC apear without warning and months of hype).

out of those only Crossing is annouced to be coming to 360(and 360 version is not even done my main Austin team, so God knows how bad port it will be). And maybe(big MAYBE) also Hellgate might be ported. Meanwhile there's no 360 game I really want that wouldn't be avaible also on PC . ME might interest me, but it's not in "must buy" category, plus I'm 99,99% sure it will be on PC anyway(might buy it when it will be re-released as budget game). The only two 360 games I'm interested in are Bioshock and Alan Wake, but considering how badly xboxed muliplatform follow-ups to great pc games were in the past, I'm taking wait and see aproach. they might be good, or they might turn out to be yet another Invisible War.
And even if I would in the future get interested in some 360 games... most will come to PC anyway. Fable2, ME, Halo3..all those are almost 100% sure to be ported to 360. So even if miracously I get the thirst for those games I can be sure I will be able to play them on Pc.
So what's the point of 360? None, at least for me.

As you can see 360 is preety much worthless for me. I'm really hyped about what's happening in PCgaming right now, adventure and sim genres seem to be rising from the ashes, some of old school pcgaming legends(both designers and franchises) are returning. Indie and niche games are becoming better and more popular each day. heck..maybe if we're lucky we'll see the ressurection of good deep roleplaying gameplay. One can hope :)
Unfortunately consoles do not interest me, especialy 360, which seems to be headed towards dumbed down simplified, short and big-budgeted area. I know some people love it, but it's not for me. My gaming needs can be satisfied only by pcgaming.
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#131 -MoOkS-
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better games better online

 

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#132 phatkav
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better games better online

 

/thread

-MoOkS-

How is it /thread ?

PC has better high quality games with free online.

/thread 

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#133 smokeydabear076
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better games better online

 

/thread

-MoOkS-
Let me guess.....Resistance Fall of Man is better than BF 2 and BF 2142.
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#134 -MoOkS-
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yes resistence and halo 2 online are better than pc fps's online ( dont even say counter strike ive seen it and played it and its very pathetic aiming + lagg) bf2 pc = lots of people lagg helicopter controls are crap all pc online is full of 56k users who lag...maybe if they spent there money on a decent internet conn instead of buying the latest GFX cards and what not pc online gaming would be more injoyable. bf2 mc on xbox and ps2 online>>>>all pc's battlefeilds because of no lag and more fast pace action
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#135 -MoOkS-
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alot of developers are waking up to and realising that they can get better sales on consoles and less chance of there games being pirated lol pc lost the call of duty series soon blizzard will develope for consoles to and pc gaming will be dead
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#136 smokeydabear076
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yes resistence and halo 2 online are better than pc fps's online ( dont even say counter strike ive seen it and played it and its very pathetic aiming + lagg) bf2 pc = lots of people lagg helicopter controls are crap all pc online is full of 56k users who lag...maybe if they spent there money on a decent internet conn instead of buying the latest GFX cards and what not pc online gaming would be more injoyable. bf2 mc on xbox and ps2 online>>>>all pc's battlefeilds because of no lag and more fast pace action-MoOkS-
Just out of curiosity, what type of PC do you have? Let me guess... a god-like PC.
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#137 wemhim
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[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]

better games better online

 

/thread

smokeydabear076
Let me guess.....Resistance Fall of Man is better than BF 2 and BF 2142.

Well, I think RB6:Vegas is, although, that's on PC online too, not sure how it is though, the first RB6 online was awesome, and still is, but I don't play it anymore online. However, most PC games are better online.
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alot of developers are waking up to and realising that they can get better sales on consoles and less chance of there games being pirated lol pc lost the call of duty series soon blizzard will develope for consoles to and pc gaming will be dead-MoOkS-

 

http://www.silicon.com/management/government/0,39024677,39117891,00.htm 

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#139 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]

better games better online

 

/thread

wemhim
Let me guess.....Resistance Fall of Man is better than BF 2 and BF 2142.

Well, I think RB6:Vegas is, although, that's on PC online too, not sure how it is though, the first RB6 online was awesome, and still is, but I don't play it anymore online. However, most PC games are better online.

I agree, BF2 and 2142 are not close to being the best that the PC has to offer in terms of online, but in my opinion they are better games then RFOM.
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#140 -MoOkS-
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specs 6800ultra 1gb ram p4 3.2ghz  22" viewsonic 200gb hdd not very ultra LOL
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#141 smokeydabear076
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specs 6800ultra 1gb ram p4 3.2ghz 22" viewsonic 200gb hdd not very ultra LOL-MoOkS-
Nice.
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yes resistence and halo 2 online are better than pc fps's online ( dont even say counter strike ive seen it and played it and its very pathetic aiming + lagg) bf2 pc = lots of people lagg helicopter controls are crap all pc online is full of 56k users who lag...maybe if they spent there money on a decent internet conn instead of buying the latest GFX cards and what not pc online gaming would be more injoyable. bf2 mc on xbox and ps2 online>>>>all pc's battlefeilds because of no lag and more fast pace action-MoOkS-

 

:lol::lol::lol: 

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#143 trix5817
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[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]

better games better online

 

/thread

smokeydabear076

Let me guess.....Resistance Fall of Man is better than BF 2 and BF 2142.

Well, I think RB6:Vegas is, although, that's on PC online too, not sure how it is though, the first RB6 online was awesome, and still is, but I don't play it anymore online. However, most PC games are better online.

I agree, BF2 and 2142 are not close to being the best that the PC has to offer in terms of online, but in my opinion they are better games then RFOM.

\

Hey man, BF2 is my favorite online FPS. But only if I play on tacticalgamer.com servers. They actually play the game how it's meant to be played. The Project Reality mod for BF2 makes the game a lot better too. If I just played on random servers than I wouldn't like it much either. Thank god I found an amazing server though. Nothing compares to it IMO.

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#145 imprezawrx500
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if consoles are better why can't you go down to a console internet cafe?  there are heaps of internet cafes that are primarily pc gaming and last friday night when I went down to have some games it was completly full all 50+ pcs. 

also tell me how i can do work on a console, since I need the rest of my computer for other things my gaming pc cost me $200 a year ago and still runs new games maxed.  also how many games do you buy a year?  10 x20 x 5 = $1000 over five years of console gaming you wouldn't have spend on pc for the exactly same games.  90% of console games are on pc

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#146 imprezawrx500
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Another AAA topic with a very smart Topic creater. Consoles don't need upgrades to keep playing games properly, lol so true.wok7

pcs don't need upgrading to play at console graphics which is med now.

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#147 coolviper2003
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You get what you pay for, if you don't mind outdated graphics then stick with consoles. PC's will always be the best choice if you're the type of person who needs the latest and greatest graphics and an all-in-one entertainment hub.
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#148 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Free2Forum: There are plenty of games like PES, Serious Sam, and Halo. I like how you sneaked in "same price as consoles". Look, PCs are more expensive up front, yes, but over time they may be less expensive. Face value is irrelevant.marklarmer

$20 per game adds up and name one game that is on ps2 and doesn't run on a p3 1ghz and radeon 8500 they were out when ps2 launched

explain how PCs are less expensive in the long run? i refer you to the original statement that the ps2 has lasted how many years without hardware upgrades? how long does the average PC last without hardware upgrades?

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#149 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Free2Forum: There are plenty of games like PES, Serious Sam, and Halo. I like how you sneaked in "same price as consoles". Look, PCs are more expensive up front, yes, but over time they may be less expensive. Face value is irrelevant.marklarmer

 

explain how PCs are less expensive in the long run? i refer you to the original statement that the ps2 has lasted how many years without hardware upgrades? how long does the average PC last without hardware upgrades?

$20 per game adds up and name one game that is on ps2 and doesn't run on a p3 1ghz and radeon 8500 they were out when ps2 launched

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#150 Lazy_Boy88
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People choose consoles because they're simpler. %99 of people just could not possibly build a gaming computer or keep it maintained. I really don't think cost is as big of a factor as you'd think. Consoles are really expensive when you look at accessories and cost of games.... not to mention buying multiple ones. A custom PC for $1000 right now could keep you going for at least 3 years playing the newest games on decent settings.... 360 probably has 3 years of support left period.