Why the dislike for Sony?

...When they're the company that gives back the most out of the 3? :?

Wii...90 Million sold.... = software has been in life support for quite some time now and will probably still be until Wii U release

Xbox 360...60 Million, Xbox Live Annual Fee.... = Kinect games for 2012?

I just don't understand :?

Because if you admit to buying an inferior product it's like admitting that you're wrong. And who the hell wants that? So naturally if I bought an Imac I would start denouncing PC's. And so on and so on.

Everyone gets bashed. Since you are so tied to Sony you are just feeling extra butthurt.

Sony gets the least amount of hate of the three.

But it's because of their fanboys mostly.

They are not American, Shadenfrauede for the past dominationZaibach

They should make the PS3 in Mexico with parts from China like the Xbox. Shaden who? I just looked it up and apparently it's not supposed to be capitalized when used as a loanword. But hey I do like it.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]They are not American, Shadenfrauede for the past dominationBahamutmega

They should make the PS3 in Mexico with parts from China like the Xbox. Shaden who? I just looked it up and apparently it's not supposed to be capitalized when used as a loanword. But hey I do like it.

hate to break it to you but 360s are maanufactured in China and assembled there aswell by Foxconn.

All three are hated on, and Sony gets hated on the least. It's nowhere near Microsoft (universal contempt) or Nintendo (universal dismissal). Sony fanboys are often the most vocal and obnoxious, so there might be the fact that it is just to shut them up (since they get under everybody's skin so much).charizard1605

this topics more than likely a retaliation to the amount of posts by abonsolo bout how sony are bad and how they are dying etc :P he posts more topics every few days than i do in a year.

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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]They are not American, Shadenfrauede for the past dominationrazgriz_101

They should make the PS3 in Mexico with parts from China like the Xbox. Shaden who? I just looked it up and apparently it's not supposed to be capitalized when used as a loanword. But hey I do like it.

hate to break it to you but 360s are maanufactured in China and assembled there aswell by Foxconn.

I apologize that I didn't clarify. I was referring to the original Xbox console.

I like them all. All of the 3 give back plenty of enjoyment. Just depends on how much you play the console.

Why should i like sony when their Fanboys are the most arrogant, sheepish and one eyed. They are exactly the same as apple fanboys.

I do enjoy some of sonys first party but a lot of them are very overrated by their own fans. Cough GOW3 COUGH

All three are hated on, and Sony gets hated on the least. It's nowhere near Microsoft (universal contempt) or Nintendo (universal dismissal). Sony fanboys are often the most vocal and obnoxious, so there might be the fact that it is just to shut them up (since they get under everybody's skin so much).charizard1605

I see the least vocal hate towards Nintendo. I know a lot of people here dislike the Wii and whatnot, but they aren't bashed constantly. Sony definitely gets the most blind hate, as in opposing fanboys argue the most ridiculous things agains them, even when their own preferred companies are "guilty" of the same or similar shortcomings.

The worst fanboys are the 360 ones. By this I mean the dumbest, non-argument forming fanboys on this site are pro-360 guys, though every faction has their share of idiots.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]They are not American, Shadenfrauede for the past dominationBahamutmega

They should make the PS3 in Mexico with parts from China like the Xbox. Shaden who? I just looked it up and apparently it's not supposed to be capitalized when used as a loanword. But hey I do like it.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]All three are hated on, and Sony gets hated on the least. It's nowhere near Microsoft (universal contempt) or Nintendo (universal dismissal). Sony fanboys are often the most vocal and obnoxious, so there might be the fact that it is just to shut them up (since they get under everybody's skin so much).Pug-Nasty

I see the least vocal hate towards Nintendo. I know a lot of people here dislike the Wii and whatnot, but they aren't bashed constantly. Sony definitely gets the most blind hate, as in opposing fanboys argue the most ridiculous things agains them, even when their own preferred companies are "guilty" of the same or similar shortcomings.

The worst fanboys are the 360 ones. By this I mean the dumbest, non-argument forming fanboys on this site are pro-360 guys, though every faction has their share of idiots.

I guess it's just all relitive lol

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]All three are hated on, and Sony gets hated on the least. It's nowhere near Microsoft (universal contempt) or Nintendo (universal dismissal). Sony fanboys are often the most vocal and obnoxious, so there might be the fact that it is just to shut them up (since they get under everybody's skin so much).Pug-Nasty

I see the least vocal hate towards Nintendo. I know a lot of people here dislike the Wii and whatnot, but they aren't bashed constantly. Sony definitely gets the most blind hate, as in opposing fanboys argue the most ridiculous things agains them, even when their own preferred companies are "guilty" of the same or similar shortcomings.

The worst fanboys are the 360 ones. By this I mean the dumbest, non-argument forming fanboys on this site are pro-360 guys, though every faction has their share of idiots.

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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]They are not American, Shadenfrauede for the past dominationcainetao11

They should make the PS3 in Mexico with parts from China like the Xbox. Shaden who? I just looked it up and apparently it's not supposed to be capitalized when used as a loanword. But hey I do like it.

Well said. As for the PS3 being made in China I figure that's a given. I was just poking at Zaibach for the term " They (sony) are not American."

Sony has some awesome first party devs, unfortunatly they are not very good hardware design and creative ideas. Their arrogance doesn´t help when it comes to keep a long term good image. That´s why loved Sony during 32bit gen, last gen i was divided between all 3 (and Sega) and this gen lost all respect for them.

At the end, all they care is money, like any other company.

Because they allow broken games on their system, like Skyrim, and others with serious technical flaws and performance issues, like Dragon Age Origins and Enslaved. It's not so bad that the games are on the PS3, but at least enforce some quality control and quit allowing a game to be released on the system if it has terrible framerate issues and obviously extremely buggy. I'm noticing a severe lack of quality control this gen. Can't let the other guys have the game only on their system. That's like an exclusive. Got to allow it on the PS3, even if it is a buggy slow mess. Way to treat your customers. Yay, PS4!

Why should i like sony when their Fanboys are the most arrogant, sheepish and one eyed. They are exactly the same as apple fanboys.

I do enjoy some of sonys first party but a lot of them are very overrated by their own fans. Cough GOW3 COUGH

walkingdream

Because they allow broken games on their system, like Skyrim, and others with serious technical flaws and performance issues, like Dragon Age Origins and Enslaved. It's not so bad that the games are on the PS3, but at least enforce some quality control and quit allowing a game to be released on the system if it has terrible framerate issues and obviously extremely buggy. I'm noticing a severe lack of quality control this gen. Can't let the other guys have the game only on their system. That's like an exclusive. Got to allow it on the PS3, even if it is a buggy slow mess. Way to treat your customers. Yay, PS4!

LovePotionNo9

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Because they allow broken games on their system, like Skyrim, and others with serious technical flaws and performance issues, like Dragon Age Origins and Enslaved. It's not so bad that the games are on the PS3, but at least enforce some quality control and quit allowing a game to be released on the system if it has terrible framerate issues and obviously extremely buggy. I'm noticing a severe lack of quality control this gen. Can't let the other guys have the game only on their system. That's like an exclusive. Got to allow it on the PS3, even if it is a buggy slow mess. Way to treat your customers. Yay, PS4!

Zaibach

He's not the TC.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"][QUOTE="LovePotionNo9"]

Because they allow broken games on their system, like Skyrim, and others with serious technical flaws and performance issues, like Dragon Age Origins and Enslaved. It's not so bad that the games are on the PS3, but at least enforce some quality control and quit allowing a game to be released on the system if it has terrible framerate issues and obviously extremely buggy. I'm noticing a severe lack of quality control this gen. Can't let the other guys have the game only on their system. That's like an exclusive. Got to allow it on the PS3, even if it is a buggy slow mess. Way to treat your customers. Yay, PS4!

waltefmoney

He's not the TC.

Because they allow broken games on their system, like Skyrim, and others with serious technical flaws and performance issues, like Dragon Age Origins and Enslaved. It's not so bad that the games are on the PS3, but at least enforce some quality control and quit allowing a game to be released on the system if it has terrible framerate issues and obviously extremely buggy. I'm noticing a severe lack of quality control this gen. Can't let the other guys have the game only on their system. That's like an exclusive. Got to allow it on the PS3, even if it is a buggy slow mess. Way to treat your customers. Yay, PS4!

LovePotionNo9

I know he is not, I was merely congratulating the TC for proving his pointZaibach

Cool beans.

[QUOTE="LovePotionNo9"]

Because they allow broken games on their system, like Skyrim, and others with serious technical flaws and performance issues, like Dragon Age Origins and Enslaved. It's not so bad that the games are on the PS3, but at least enforce some quality control and quit allowing a game to be released on the system if it has terrible framerate issues and obviously extremely buggy. I'm noticing a severe lack of quality control this gen. Can't let the other guys have the game only on their system. That's like an exclusive. Got to allow it on the PS3, even if it is a buggy slow mess. Way to treat your customers. Yay, PS4!

Zaibach

Maybe Skyrim should never have been on PS3?

It´s certainly NOT devs fault the fact PS3 has an unbalanced hardware design, it´s also not devs fault Sony hyped PS3 so much that it´s fans were expecting a far better product than it actually is, etc...

[QUOTE="Zaibach"][QUOTE="LovePotionNo9"]

Because they allow broken games on their system, like Skyrim, and others with serious technical flaws and performance issues, like Dragon Age Origins and Enslaved. It's not so bad that the games are on the PS3, but at least enforce some quality control and quit allowing a game to be released on the system if it has terrible framerate issues and obviously extremely buggy. I'm noticing a severe lack of quality control this gen. Can't let the other guys have the game only on their system. That's like an exclusive. Got to allow it on the PS3, even if it is a buggy slow mess. Way to treat your customers. Yay, PS4!

PAL360

Maybe Skyrim should never have been on PS3?

It´s certainly NOT devs fault the fact PS3 has an unbalanced hardware design, it´s also not devs fault Sony hyped PS3 so much that it´s fans were expecting a far better product than it actually is, etc...

[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="Bahamutmega"]

They should make the PS3 in Mexico with parts from China like the Xbox. Shaden who? I just looked it up and apparently it's not supposed to be capitalized when used as a loanword. But hey I do like it.

Bahamutmega

Well said. As for the PS3 being made in China I figure that's a given. I was just poking at Zaibach for the term " They (sony) are not American."

[QUOTE="Zaibach"][QUOTE="LovePotionNo9"]

Because they allow broken games on their system, like Skyrim, and others with serious technical flaws and performance issues, like Dragon Age Origins and Enslaved. It's not so bad that the games are on the PS3, but at least enforce some quality control and quit allowing a game to be released on the system if it has terrible framerate issues and obviously extremely buggy. I'm noticing a severe lack of quality control this gen. Can't let the other guys have the game only on their system. That's like an exclusive. Got to allow it on the PS3, even if it is a buggy slow mess. Way to treat your customers. Yay, PS4!

PAL360

Maybe Skyrim should never have been on PS3?

It´s certainly NOT devs fault the fact PS3 has an unbalanced hardware design, it´s also not devs fault Sony hyped PS3 so much that it´s fans were expecting a far better product than it actually is, etc...

[QUOTE="Zaibach"][QUOTE="LovePotionNo9"]

Because they allow broken games on their system, like Skyrim, and others with serious technical flaws and performance issues, like Dragon Age Origins and Enslaved. It's not so bad that the games are on the PS3, but at least enforce some quality control and quit allowing a game to be released on the system if it has terrible framerate issues and obviously extremely buggy. I'm noticing a severe lack of quality control this gen. Can't let the other guys have the game only on their system. That's like an exclusive. Got to allow it on the PS3, even if it is a buggy slow mess. Way to treat your customers. Yay, PS4!

PAL360

Maybe Skyrim should never have been on PS3?

It´s certainly NOT devs fault the fact PS3 has an unbalanced hardware design, it´s also not devs fault Sony hyped PS3 so much that it´s fans were expecting a far better product than it actually is, etc...

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]It's sony's fault that skyrim is a broken mess? Well Done TCChris_Williams

Maybe Skyrim should never have been on PS3?

It´s certainly NOT devs fault the fact PS3 has an unbalanced hardware design, it´s also not devs fault Sony hyped PS3 so much that it´s fans were expecting a far better product than it actually is, etc...

This is not a good annalogy, sorry. PS3 is not 'new equipment'. It´s a 6 years old console and, like any other platform, it has it´s limitations.

No one is giving Bethesda a blind free pass. It´s a known fact Sony did a few mistakes when it came to design PS3 hardware. Let´s give Sony a free pass instead, right?

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Maybe Skyrim should never have been on PS3?

It´s certainly NOT devs fault the fact PS3 has an unbalanced hardware design, it´s also not devs fault Sony hyped PS3 so much that it´s fans were expecting a far better product than it actually is, etc...

PAL360

This is not a good annalogy, sorry. PS3 is not 'new equipment'. It´s a 6 years old console and, like any other platform, it has it´s limitations.

No one is giving Bethesda a blind free pass. It´s a known fact Sony did a few mistakes when it came to design PS3 hardware. Let´s give Sony a free pass instead, right?

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]It's sony's fault that skyrim is a broken mess? Well Done TCZaibach

Maybe Skyrim should never have been on PS3?

It´s certainly NOT devs fault the fact PS3 has an unbalanced hardware design, it´s also not devs fault Sony hyped PS3 so much that it´s fans were expecting a far better product than it actually is, etc...

The best looking games are´t allways the most technically impressive. Yes, Uncharted 3 and God of War 3 look amazing, but i dont think they are as hardware pushers as Red Dead Redemption or Skyrim, for example.

And like i said above, all systems have their limitations. PS3 is no different.

Because they **** up a lot.

I still like them though.They got their **** together.

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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] so if a hospital gets brand new equipment and its up to the hospital staff to do their jobs and learn how to use this brand new equipment, also other hospitals have learned how to use the new equipment quite well but this hospital lets call it Bethesda don't do their jobs correctly and learn how to use the equipment and they don't treat their patients has well as other hospitals, your seriously going to blame the people who made the equipment then the hospital staff whose job it is was to learn how to operate it correctly? Yeah lets give Bethesda a free pass for not doing their jobs correctly... Chris_Williams

This is not a good annalogy, sorry. PS3 is not 'new equipment'. It´s a 6 years old console and, like any other platform, it has it´s limitations.

No one is giving Bethesda a blind free pass. It´s a known fact Sony did a few mistakes when it came to design PS3 hardware. Let´s give Sony a free pass instead, right?

Nop, im sure everyone agrees that 360 is just as old and limited. The difference is that people is not constantly claiming 360 is more powerful than PS3 or even on par with PC. Overhype allways ends on disappointment.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Maybe Skyrim should never have been on PS3?

It´s certainly NOT devs fault the fact PS3 has an unbalanced hardware design, it´s also not devs fault Sony hyped PS3 so much that it´s fans were expecting a far better product than it actually is, etc...

PAL360

The best looking games are´t allways the most technically impressive. Yes, Uncharted 3 and God of War 3 look amazing, but i dont think they are as hardware pushers as Red Dead Redemption or Skyrim, for example.

And like i said above, all systems have their limitations. PS3 is no different.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

This is not a good annalogy, sorry. PS3 is not 'new equipment'. It´s a 6 years old console and, like any other platform, it has it´s limitations.

No one is giving Bethesda a blind free pass. It´s a known fact Sony did a few mistakes when it came to design PS3 hardware. Let´s give Sony a free pass instead, right?

PAL360

Nop, im sure everyone agrees that 360 is just as old and limited. The difference is that people is not constantly claiming 360 is more powerful than PS3 or even on par with PC. Overhype allways ends on disappointment.

I have a dislike for Sony fans and the way Sony is handling marketing. Kevin Butler? CEO stating no self-respected adult plays DS? How can I take this company seriously.

They also have the most predictable and outright boring E3 conferences, there is huge a lack of passion overall that is very noticeable when the reps where demoing games "uhh yeah here we have some generic shooter in 3D! uum uuuh yep it's awesome :>" "*nervous guy* heeeeree is this game for PC,, sssoory I mean Vita hehehe"

Nothing wrong per se with their consoles or games themselves, they have normal pro/cons like any other system.

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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]Yh that's why all the biggest and best looking games run fine on the hardware, hype has nothing to do with it, the machine has been out 6 years now. It's the worst craftsmen who blame the tools, so please stop with the strawmen arguments it's making you look bad.Zaibach

The best looking games are´t allways the most technically impressive. Yes, Uncharted 3 and God of War 3 look amazing, but i dont think they are as hardware pushers as Red Dead Redemption or Skyrim, for example.

And like i said above, all systems have their limitations. PS3 is no different.

It wasn´t directed at you. We both know there are fanboys who keep praising the cell as the second coming of christ.

In the Skyrim situation, i would share the blame. Bethesda should never have released the game the way it is but it´s not their fault they cant reach the same visual and performance fidelity on both consoles.

Because they **** up a lot.

I still like them though.They got their **** together.

freedomfreak

I agree, everybody at some point does though.

But currently, Sony has been giving back the most to its core gamers. You can say Ninty and MSFT has somewhat abandoned their core, I can't say the same for Sony.

Their past isn't bad either.PS1 and PS2 are considered among the greatest consoles of all time.

The difference is that people is not constantly claiming 360 is more powerful than PS3 or even on par with PC. PAL360

I like Sony. But I really hate cows. Their pick and choose methods are irritating and childish. Plus they do not take facts very well. Not even tru Hermits are as bad as them.....they just want friends.

Sony is doing everything right. Their exclusives (regardless of how many they bring out), just does not have the same name power as the other systems do.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

Because they **** up a lot.

I still like them though.They got their **** together.

nitekids2004

I agree, everybody at some point does though.

But currently, Sony has been giving back the most to its core gamers. You can say Ninty and MSFT has somewhat abandoned their core, I can't say the same for Sony.

Their past isn't bad either.PS1 and PS2 are considered among the greatest consoles of all time.

The problem is I mostly don't care for Sony's 1st party games, even though they are there in quantity this year. I can agree that they have the best exclusive lineup of the year, but that fact doesn't do anything for me specifically, it's not really a "win" for Sony from me cus I don't care for the games personally. I still enjoyed 3rd party multiplats much more which are avaliable on multiple systems. It's more like, sure you won, so? I'm indifferent. It's not gonna make me praise Sony or buy their games. To grab me they need to deliver software that is appealing to me.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

Because they **** up a lot.

I still like them though.They got their **** together.

SuperFlakeman

I agree, everybody at some point does though.

But currently, Sony has been giving back the most to its core gamers. You can say Ninty and MSFT has somewhat abandoned their core, I can't say the same for Sony.

Their past isn't bad either.PS1 and PS2 are considered among the greatest consoles of all time.

The problem is I mostly don't care for Sony's 1st party games, even though they are there in quantity this year. I can agree that they have the best exclusive lineup of the year, but that fact doesn't do anything for me specifically, it's not really a "win" for Sony from me cus I don't care for the games personally. I still enjoyed 3rd party multiplats much more which are avaliable on multiple systems. It's more like, sure you won, so? I'm indifferent. It's not gonna make me praise Sony or buy their games. To grab me they need to deliver software that is appealing to me.

Whether you like / dislikeSony games is one thing...

But their approach to giving back to core gamers?

Whereas Ninty and Microsoft seems to have shifted to another pasture, Sony is still giving back. That much is obvious.