Overclocking, LOL. pushed those bus speed up, a lot. Haven't overclocked the CpU, stock voltage is 1.35. You just pushed the bus speeds up. Yea your CPU is safe. I'll give you that. But pushing those buss speeds up like that. Good way to clear your name. LOL. You haven't proven much except you love to push buss speeds up. You don't really know how to overclock do you? I still have to wonder how stable it is.Hey loftus42, here's my credibility. Where's yours?
Main gaming rig
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5886/pwntdg2.jpg
2nd gaming rig
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7770/pwnt2dh3.jpg
Now, back to my school work. Feels good to own folks.
Btw loftus42, I don't expect you to provide proof (no cred) but I wanted to clear my name anyways.
DaGamingGod
Why the PS3 is a more powerful system that the 360 from a techincal standpoint
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[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Overclocking, LOL. pushed those bus speed up, a lot. Haven't overclocked the CpU, stock voltage is 1.35. You just pushed the bus speeds up. Yea your CPU is safe. I'll give you that. But pushing those buss speeds up like that. Good way to clear your name. LOL. You haven't proven much except you love to push buss speeds up. You don't really know how to overclock do you? I still have to wonder how stable it is.Hey loftus42, here's my credibility. Where's yours?
Main gaming rig
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5886/pwntdg2.jpg
2nd gaming rig
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7770/pwnt2dh3.jpg
Now, back to my school work. Feels good to own folks.
Btw loftus42, I don't expect you to provide proof (no cred) but I wanted to clear my name anyways.
loftus42
What's wrong with pushing bus speed up and calling it ocing, because that's exaclty what he did... In my book that's a 40% Oc on the CPU. He can't up the multiplier, so the only thing he has left is the bus... and it's not pushing the bus alot, a good p35 mobo can hit 500. Really, it's nothing to wowed about... I'm guessing you need pictures of prime or ortho.
Dude you are clearly clueless about the hardware. stick to arguing about games. I for one, know for a fact that the PS3's GPU is better and faster than the Xenos. Ive seen benchmarks on them. If you doubt me, go out and buy a NVidia GeForce 8800GTX dual processor chipset (a rough equivalent of whats running in the PS3) then buy ANY dual processor ATI shipset (since ATI made theGPU for microsoft. Run 3dMark benchmarks on them and see who comeson top. Its been well known in the PC community that NVidia chipsethave ALWAYS been more powerful than ATI chipsets. go check PCMAG.com or any computer mag that benchmark products or open up both consoles and benchmark it like yourself just like I did. You have NO technical background in hardware.You just seem to have a skill for spitting out the jargon like you know what youre talking about. I live hardware dude.superferret2029Are you sure you know what you're talking about?
[QUOTE="loftus42"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Overclocking, LOL. pushed those bus speed up, a lot. Haven't overclocked the CpU, stock voltage is 1.35. You just pushed the bus speeds up. Yea your CPU is safe. I'll give you that. But pushing those buss speeds up like that. Good way to clear your name. LOL. You haven't proven much except you love to push buss speeds up. You don't really know how to overclock do you? I still have to wonder how stable it is.Hey loftus42, here's my credibility. Where's yours?
Main gaming rig
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5886/pwntdg2.jpg
2nd gaming rig
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7770/pwnt2dh3.jpg
Now, back to my school work. Feels good to own folks.
Btw loftus42, I don't expect you to provide proof (no cred) but I wanted to clear my name anyways.
Bebi_vegeta
What's wrong with pushing bus speed up and calling it ocing, because that's exaclty what he did... In my book that's a 40% Oc on the CPU. He can't up the multiplier, so the only thing he has left is the bus... and it's not pushing the bus alot, a good p35 mobo can hit 500. Really, it's nothing to wowed about... I'm guessing you need pictures of prime or ortho.
No it's not pushing it much at all. thats what i'm laughing at. I'd like to see his memory voltage and timing though. It's just nothing to be excited about. Lower the voltage on the memory, up the multiplier, and the cpu voltage a step, and he'd probably get better performance out of it. But i don't have much to go on. I've seen the multiplier on an asus board go to ten, and 1333 ddr3 hit over 2ghz. It all depends on the board he has, and the memory. But all I've seen is a pushed FSB. The way he spoke i was expecting more. These processors can push 4 ghz, and be stable. Depending on your cooling setup. I've not seen anything I would go wow over though. basic OC. and a little off the wall. As long as he keeps the processor around 1.5, lowers the bus speed a hair, he would possibly get better performance, and still keep things in normal range with a non OEM cpu fan. But honestly we are way out of bounds here, and this has gone on too long, The TCs topic is what we need to be discussing, I just wanted to answer his post. So back on topic.As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith
XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)
PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)superferret2029
if the PowerPC is obsolete why is it being used in the F35? but more importantly I guess why is the PPC inside the CELL a PowerPC?
[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith
XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)
superferret2029
PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)
As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith
XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)
PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)superferret2029
Why the new account? I thought graphics depended on the gpu, dosent the 360 have a better gpu? Was the cell designed for use in gaming consoles? What is all that peak bandwith going to do. What is the advantage of it? How do we know the 360 cpu is not better for gaming as that is what it was designed for? The thing is 99% of people on SW dont know s***, myself included. If you cant answer any of those questions why did you make this tread?
Dude you are clearly clueless about the hardware. stick to arguing about games. I for one, know for a fact that the PS3's GPU is better and faster than the Xenos. Ive seen benchmarks on them. If you doubt me, go out and buy a NVidia GeForce 8800GTX dual processor chipset (a rough equivalent of whats running in the PS3) then buy ANY dual processor ATI shipset (since ATI made theGPU for microsoft. Run 3dMark benchmarks on them and see who comeson top. Its been well known in the PC community that NVidia chipsethave ALWAYS been more powerful than ATI chipsets. go check PCMAG.com or any computer mag that benchmark products or open up both consoles and benchmark it like yourself just like I did. You have NO technical background in hardware.You just seem to have a skill for spitting out the jargon like you know what youre talking about. I live hardware dude.
AHAHAHAHA, im sorry and im sure somebody has made fun of it by now....
but dude, you are a joke. The fact you said RSX was similar to dual 8800GTX's is ridiculous. Seriously pull both specs for me and explain, you won't be able to. The fact is RSX is similar in pixel power to the 7800GTX. Difference being RSX has half the ROPS, and half the bandwidth.
Xenos on the other hand is similar in power to the X1800. The 1800 was more powerful then the 7800GTX, and the vertex power of Xenos crushes both. Xenos also has a distinct vantage in ALU count, and those ALU's are MADD capiable. Shader heaven!
The big problem, and only real disadvantage for Xenos vs RSX is Xenos limited TMU's. 16 vs 24 in relation to how many ALU's it has.
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