[QUOTE="fastr"][QUOTE="Merex760"]Ha, People that want a large HD tv in their homes want it for alot more then just gaming. You can't really add the cost of a tv into a console, you would have to add the cost of a monitor into your PC cost as well. I'm aware they are much cheaper, but then you would also have to realize you could buy a monitor and hook it up to your console since they do come with HDMI inputs. So your entire argument is invalid. If you want true surround sound your gonna have to pay for it either way. Wrong. A monitor with HD capabilities you can get as cheap as $150 now. Monitor prices are factored into the cost of a PC. Even with the monitor price included a gaming PC could be priced out for cheaper than all three gaming console's hardware alone. Don't forget all those wonderful accessories, pay to play online, and $60 price-point for every new title. Sure, if you want to have console gaming be cheaper than pc gaming, you're going to have to sacrifice the HD experience. Sorry. except you could easily buy a monitor and use it for your console, gasp! my god. It's so simple.. I'd much rather have my large HD TV anyday anyways, Which is used for my computer, tv, gaming, everything. Didn't even cost that much more then a monitor anyways. As long as your not a moron, games are cheap. Buy off ebay/amazon whatever, you can get them very cheap. Sell them when your done and you make pretty much all your moron back. Try doing that with a game you got off steam. Who ever said you had to buy all 3 consoles anyways? Just the 360 alone has a huge library of awesome games.The only way console gaming is cheaper than PC gaming is if you're playing your consoles on a little standard definition TV with no surround sound. To get the same experience as PC gaming on console, this requires an HDTV and surround sound, which in the end makes consoles more expensive. Not to mention just owning all three consoles alone this generation without even purchasing the accessories is the same cost as a gaming PC which offers more good titles than all three consoles combined. The money argument really means nothing, and is a fallback for those who know nothing about the cost of PC gaming.
Merex760
Why would anyone not own a gaming PC?
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the price is the biggest thing, i know you can build an alright pc for a few hundred bucks, but for me id like to go high end and have a computer i wont have to upgrade for a few years, throw in all the bells and whistles and i ended up spending over a grand on my current setup, this is including 5.1 surround, 3 monitors and such
An HDTV does NOT factor into the cost of the console. That is the silliest thing I have ever read on this forum.
Something PC gamers forget is that you buy all the parts to your gaming rig, put it together, but then have to pay for all the OS stuff. Unless of course they are finding a way around this?
Really? the cheapest computer you can find out there in any major retailer will do what your average family wants with no problems. Tell me how much a gaming PC would have cost in 05 when the 360 came out, that would still be playing games NOW, and for the next 3 years? without problems, without upgrades. I don't know why you hermits want to try pushing PC gaming onto people, there are PC gamers and console gamers, your not going to convince someone to switch sides. To say console gaming is better/cheaper than pc gaming is just wrong though. Any "system war" going on here between xbox 360 and PS3 is just a battle for second place. Why do you think PC gaming is always left out of thediscussion? Cause the 360 and PS3 would lose 100% of the time. You're just being fooled by the cheaper up front cost. I've had the same computer for almost three years now, only doing minor upgrades. Ram upgrades, video cards, can all be done for ~$100 once every few years, which equates to the cost of Xbox Live for a few year subscription. I'd rather pay for new shiny hardware than the ability to play online. I can't believe you think you doing minor upgrades, even if they cost less then 100, is less then a one time console cost, cheaper then the original cost of your PC. Seriously, do some math, write some **** down, I'm sure your computer can run an awesome calculator.[QUOTE="fastr"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]
BS.
The same could be said about all parts of the PC, with few restrictions regarding the GPU.
Merex760
[QUOTE="alfredooo"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]
Yeah.. like 2 - 3 more multiplats then the PC, while the PC has almost more AAA exclusives then both consoles combined. :|
clyde46
and the 360 alone beats PC in the amount of AAAA and AAA. So does the PS3. Pretty cool list.:)
Scores dont mean squat.lmao now scores don't mean anything? then what can we compare them by?
I know! how about price?
consoles still win.
An HDTV does NOT factor into the cost of the console. That is the silliest thing I have ever read on this forum.
Something PC gamers forget is that you buy all the parts to your gaming rig, put it together, but then have to pay for all the OS stuff. Unless of course they are finding a way around this?
Heirren
Double standards.
There they are guys, for everyone to see.
[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]
[QUOTE="alfredooo"]
cool... I wasn't aware of that list. Thanks. But it shows that both the 360 and PS3 have more AAAA and AAA. (not even combined)
alfredooo
Yeah.. like 2 - 3 more multiplats then the PC, while the PC has almost more AAA exclusives then both consoles combined. :|
and the 360 alone beats PC in the amount of AAAA and AAA. So does the PS3. Pretty cool list.:)
it loses in exclusives, 13>7. And when some of those games are perfect dark zero, gta iv, modern warfare 2, rainbow 6 vegas etc... the standards argument is proven.[QUOTE="fastr"]Really? the cheapest computer you can find out there in any major retailer will do what your average family wants with no problem. Tell me how much a gaming PC would have cost in 05 when the 360 came out, that would still be playing games NOW, and for the next 3 years? without problems, without upgrades. I don't know why you hermits want to try pushing PC gaming onto people, there are PC gamers and console gamers, your not going to convince someone to switch sides. N30F3N1X
It's not a matter of convincing anyone, it's a matter of ****ing principle.
You don't get to say all the bs you want justifying it with "I'm not going to switch sides anyway" and try to pretend it's a logic that works.
What you're using are double standards. Those are not abided in debates. End of story.
yeah, it's a double standard because you can use a monitor for a console if you want? Whats a double standard huh? that consoles are cheaper? Sorry it's a fact. Your the ones saying BS, PC gaming is cheaper seriously get your heads straight.
Scores dont mean squat.[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="alfredooo"]
and the 360 alone beats PC in the amount of AAAA and AAA. So does the PS3. Pretty cool list.:)
alfredooo
lmao now scores don't mean anything? then what can we compare them by?
I know! how about price?
consoles still win.
You can play scores while I enjoy good games on my PC, 360 and PS3.Wait, why? Why do you have to get all three every generation? Plenty of people survive off of just one.[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]
[QUOTE="kaitanuvax"]
There are 3 consoles. You have to get all 3 EVERY GENERATION. You also have to invest in a $1k HDTV.
Where people misunderstand is that a PC, ONE SYSTEM, can last one generation as well. The monitor has a higher resolution and is nowhere near $1K.
Please tell me how a PC is mroe expensive.
Arach666
Then why do I see games from all three consoles when console gamers show their lists against the PC lists,like the one we´ve seen a few posts above?
If that´s the case,console gamers should post only the games for the system they own instead of using all three just to keep up with the PC(wich apparently isn´t going very well since the PC has more AE,AAE and AAAE than all three combined).
Unless every single console gamer out there owns all three systems...
I don't know why people are showing all three together in lists. That's kindof silly. Regardless, any single platform someone owns - whether it be a PC, 360 or PS3 - probably has more AAA and AA games than they could possibly afford to purchase.Nonetheless, I think someone who gets by on only one platform, and that includes a PC gamer, is missing out on some especially stellar AAA games if they don't pickup another system. The PC has 13 AAAEs (a high number, although it includes expansions) the PS3 has 8, the 360 has 7, and the Wii has 5. Together, someone who owns all 3 consoles will have access to more "AAAE" games, which to me is personally more important than having access to more AAEs, because I only have so much money to go around and my first priority is usually to play games which are considered the top of their genre.
But I own everything anyway, and wouldn't have it any other way. Heh.
[QUOTE="argetlam00"]
Seriously? Despite all the advantages, there are still pure console gamers and it blows my mind.
PC gaming is:
1) not that expensive. I've seen good PC's built for 500 if your REALLY on budget. (True, but this is a delicate situation that always turns into a debate of will this hardware actually last filled with statistics so Im gonna have to pass on that discussion)
2) Has more high scoring exclusives than all 3 consoles combined ( Dont know what to tell ya. Scores dont always mean it will be enjoyed by everyone )
3) Has mods, I've seen mods offered for free that are superior to expansion packs. Infact, many games IMO like Rome Total War would be garbage without mods. They can completely revolutionize a game. ( I have a gaming pc, and I only use mods on a handful of games. They feel like quick fixes for me more than a lasting appeal feature. Much like dlc. Of course, many pc gamers dont agree with me on this but its how I see them.)
4) I've found that PC games generally have the best and most mature community of players. (Totally on your conclusion)
5) PC gaming has unmatched technical power and the versatility it gives is next to none. While consoles are likely to be stuck with 1080p even on the NEXT generation, PC gaming, if you are willing to spend the money, can be running across multiple monitors with features like eyefinity.1920x1200 x 3 is 5760p.
(granted. Yet wii owners seem perfectly fine with basic cable, and ps3/360 boys feel fine in the middle. It is a plus though for pc).
6) Yes, PC gaming can be played on your "comfy" couch and you can connect your PC to your HDTV. If you don't want to use the superior M+K (superior for most genres that is) for a game, you can just connect a controller. LIke I said before, VERSATILITY( Probably just me but I never liked pc gaming in this kind of setup. )
7) Best versions of all multiplats. Infact, some multiplats are so good on PC that they might as well be considered a whole different experience. Case in point, Team Fortress 2. (true)
So, why do some people actually not game on PC?
This is because, simply put, Some people dont care about it.
mccoyca112
Pretty much sums up this thread. It's illogical not to have a gaming rig but people do it anyway for the sake of carelessness.
Scores dont mean squat.[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="alfredooo"]
and the 360 alone beats PC in the amount of AAAA and AAA. So does the PS3. Pretty cool list.:)
alfredooo
lmao now scores don't mean anything? then what can we compare them by?
I know! how about price?
consoles still win.
I thought we were discussing the exclusives?[QUOTE="alfredooo"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Scores dont mean squat.clyde46
lmao now scores don't mean anything? then what can we compare them by?
I know! how about price?
consoles still win.
You can play scores while I enjoy good games on my PC, 360 and PS3.cant argue with you on that:)
[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Please tell me you know better.lowe0Are we going to see you type for the 1000th time that you know about PC gaming again? No, I was politely giving him the benefit of the doubt. That said, if you'd like me to say it, then who am I to disappoint my adoring fans?
The generally consensus is "PC gaming is too complex", which in my mind translates to technophobia. Just because you owned both consoles and a gaming PC doesn't mean my original response may not be true. :|
I didn't mean that. I'm not a native english speaker, but what I meant to say is that for me playing on Pc is a waste, when I can do other, more important things with it; hence I prefer gaming on a console, which is mainly a gaming machine and that's it.[QUOTE="aia89"][QUOTE="kaitanuvax"]
A PC is anything but restrictive in gaming. Name me a genre that a PC can't play just as good or better that isn't a racing game / beat'em up.
kaitanuvax
That doesn't make sense at all. It's not like you can play games on a console while you're doing your "important things" on your PC. When you're finished with aforementioned "important things", you can game on the PC. Besides, a gaming rig ENHANCES the speed of your "important things" as well.
it does make sense. I don't like using a Pc for gaming, what's so hard to understand? when I do want to spend some time playing a game, I do it in the living room, sitting on a couch, in front of a fairly big Tv. and I have a console for that. Plus, there are games that appeal to me on consoles that I won't be able to play on Pc, being them exclusive titles.An HDTV does NOT factor into the cost of the console. That is the silliest thing I have ever read on this forum.
Something PC gamers forget is that you buy all the parts to your gaming rig, put it together, but then have to pay for all the OS stuff. Unless of course they are finding a way around this?
Heirren
By that logic, I initially bought my PC for college work. Only then did I decide to purchase a GPU for gaming. So the cost of PC gaming only depends on the GPU?
[QUOTE="Heirren"]
An HDTV does NOT factor into the cost of the console. That is the silliest thing I have ever read on this forum.
Something PC gamers forget is that you buy all the parts to your gaming rig, put it together, but then have to pay for all the OS stuff. Unless of course they are finding a way around this?
WhenCicadasCry
By that logic, I initially bought my PC for college work. Only then did I decide to purchase a GPU for gaming. So the cost of PC gaming only depends on the GPU?
When I bought my 360, I played on a 14in SDTV :P[QUOTE="kaitanuvax"][QUOTE="aia89"] I didn't mean that. I'm not a native english speaker, but what I meant to say is that for me playing on Pc is a waste, when I can do other, more important things with it; hence I prefer gaming on a console, which is mainly a gaming machine and that's it. aia89
That doesn't make sense at all. It's not like you can play games on a console while you're doing your "important things" on your PC. When you're finished with aforementioned "important things", you can game on the PC. Besides, a gaming rig ENHANCES the speed of your "important things" as well.
it does make sense. I don't like using a Pc for gaming, what's so hard to understand? when I do want to spend some time playing a game, I do it in the living room, sitting on a couch, in front of a fairly big Tv. and I have a console for that. Plus, there are games that appeal to me on consoles that I won't be able to play on Pc, being them exclusive titles.So you're explicitly avoiding PC gaming? What's stopping you from playing both consoles and PC? Oh right, money... :roll: $50 can turn your PC into a gaming PC.
it does make sense. I don't like using a Pc for gaming, what's so hard to understand? when I do want to spend some time playing a game, I do it in the living room, sitting on a couch, in front of a fairly big Tv. and I have a console for that. Plus, there are games that appeal to me on consoles that I won't be able to play on Pc, being them exclusive titles.[QUOTE="aia89"][QUOTE="kaitanuvax"]
That doesn't make sense at all. It's not like you can play games on a console while you're doing your "important things" on your PC. When you're finished with aforementioned "important things", you can game on the PC. Besides, a gaming rig ENHANCES the speed of your "important things" as well.
WhenCicadasCry
So you're explicitly avoiding PC gaming? What's stopping you from playing both consoles and PC? Oh right, money... :roll: $50 can turn your PC into a gaming PC.
Most of the time, thats true but they own a POS Dell then its pointless trying to turn that into a gaming PC.
it does make sense. I don't like using a Pc for gaming, what's so hard to understand? when I do want to spend some time playing a game, I do it in the living room, sitting on a couch, in front of a fairly big Tv. and I have a console for that. Plus, there are games that appeal to me on consoles that I won't be able to play on Pc, being them exclusive titles.[QUOTE="aia89"][QUOTE="kaitanuvax"]
That doesn't make sense at all. It's not like you can play games on a console while you're doing your "important things" on your PC. When you're finished with aforementioned "important things", you can game on the PC. Besides, a gaming rig ENHANCES the speed of your "important things" as well.
WhenCicadasCry
So you're explicitly avoiding PC gaming? What's stopping you from playing both consoles and PC? Oh right, money... :roll: $50 can turn your PC into a gaming PC.
do you sit in front of a pc 9 hours a day for work? I thought so. I don't avoid Pc gaming, I do play The Sims 3 from time to time.it does make sense. I don't like using a Pc for gaming, what's so hard to understand? when I do want to spend some time playing a game, I do it in the living room, sitting on a couch, in front of a fairly big Tv. and I have a console for that. Plus, there are games that appeal to me on consoles that I won't be able to play on Pc, being them exclusive titles. aia89
And who says you can't connect a TV to a PC? Wireless keyboard, mice if you prefer? I'm not talking about preferences, here, which you obviously are touting. The fact is that a PC can do it all, you just choose not to because you're too used to the console.
And while there are exclusives for consoles, thats the developers fault. A PC has the ABILITY to play every game just as good as a console can.
Let me ask you this - CAN consoles play World of Warcraft just as good as the PC?
Key words: CAN, CHOICE. Not LIKE, WANT.
[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]
[QUOTE="Arach666"] Another pointless list considering that anyone could do an even larger list of PC exclusives this gen alone.alfredooo
Keep in mind you'll have to combine prices of all 3 consoles, as well as a HDTV, so that's easily £800+
My PC was £650 inc 22inch Full HD monitor.
And that gets you pretty much every multiplat, plus the PCs superior library.
wow... you are adding the price of an hdtv? what if you already have one of those to, you know, watch TV?
And don't you already hace a computer to, you know, compute? Chances are with a GPU upgrade it would be ready to game, unless it's completely ancient.
[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"][QUOTE="aia89"] it does make sense. I don't like using a Pc for gaming, what's so hard to understand? when I do want to spend some time playing a game, I do it in the living room, sitting on a couch, in front of a fairly big Tv. and I have a console for that. Plus, there are games that appeal to me on consoles that I won't be able to play on Pc, being them exclusive titles. clyde46
So you're explicitly avoiding PC gaming? What's stopping you from playing both consoles and PC? Oh right, money... :roll: $50 can turn your PC into a gaming PC.
Most of the time, thats true but they own a POS Dell then its pointless trying to turn that into a gaming PC.Even so, most recent PCs have a decent dual core and atleast 2 gig of RAM, and should have a PCI-E slot. You may need a new power supply, so you're looking at £70-80 max, and you'll end up with a PC capable of outperforming the consoles.
PC gaming = choice. Something consoles don't have. Think I'll leave it at that.
[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"][QUOTE="aia89"] it does make sense. I don't like using a Pc for gaming, what's so hard to understand? when I do want to spend some time playing a game, I do it in the living room, sitting on a couch, in front of a fairly big Tv. and I have a console for that. Plus, there are games that appeal to me on consoles that I won't be able to play on Pc, being them exclusive titles. aia89
So you're explicitly avoiding PC gaming? What's stopping you from playing both consoles and PC? Oh right, money... :roll: $50 can turn your PC into a gaming PC.
do you sit in front of a pc 9 hours a day for work? I thought so. I don't avoid Pc gaming, I do play The Sims 3 from time to time.What has this got to do with anything? I do sit infront of my PC alot, while doing college work though. :P I can understand if people find PC gaming daunting due to technology changes, but someone who purposely shys away from PC gaming, and the games it offers, just confuses me.
man these threads always get so out of control, alright im gonna try and spell this out for both sides
pc gamers
the only people who truelly believe that pc gaming is super expensive are ignorant people who havent done the research on it, with that being said though, the entry point for getting in to pc gaming CAN be higher then getting in to console gaming depending on several factors including if you already have an os, a monitor, keyboard etc, all that stuff does add up in price, so please pc gamers do keep in mind that the price of entery for some may be a little higher then the prices your quoting
console gamers
you have to understand that pc gamers do end up saving money overall with a gaming pc, if these saving are worth it is completely debatable depending on the person, ive personally saved a couple hundred bucks on steam sales, but thats beside the point, pc gaming does have its high points, and for you to come in to a thread about pc gaming and say "lulz i dun care :lol:" is very disrespectfull to the people who are trying to argue in the thread, if you dont care about pc gaming then whats really the point in coming in to the thread?
now FOR BOTH SIDES
whether you game on the wii, the psp, the 360 ps3 the pc, it doesnt matter what you game on, every system has a steller library of games to enjoy, this isnt gaming of old, every system has something to offer for everyone, the pc, believe it or not, does have games for pretty much every genre, and yes, there are rts's for gaming consoles, they may not control the same as pc but it still gives console gamers a chance to get the flavor of rts's/
at the end of the day everyone reading this isnt a hermit, a lemming, a cow or a sheep, were damn gamers and i dont want you to forget that
I'm not a PC gamer. I started gaming because of the NES. You just plug it in the TV and play and as years goes by you don't need to worry about upgrading it. I grew up with that ease of use and no one in my home ever introduced me to PC gaming. So after all these years with just owning gaming consoles even though PC gaming exist, gamers like me did just fine since we were still having fun with the video games. Fun is fun. My younger brother on the other hand plays games on the PC even though he plays consoles more, I guess he was expose to different outlets of gaming. So I guess it depends on what kind of gaming systems you are expose to in your home that molds your gaming preference.
Most of the time, thats true but they own a POS Dell then its pointless trying to turn that into a gaming PC.[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]
So you're explicitly avoiding PC gaming? What's stopping you from playing both consoles and PC? Oh right, money... :roll: $50 can turn your PC into a gaming PC.
WhenCicadasCry
Even so, most recent PCs have a decent dual core and atleast 2 gig of RAM, and should have a PCI-E slot. You may need a new power supply, so you're looking at £70-80 max, and you'll end up with a PC capable of outperforming the consoles.
True, I just bought a Corsair 400W PSU for £34 :D[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"][QUOTE="aia89"] it does make sense. I don't like using a Pc for gaming, what's so hard to understand? when I do want to spend some time playing a game, I do it in the living room, sitting on a couch, in front of a fairly big Tv. and I have a console for that. Plus, there are games that appeal to me on consoles that I won't be able to play on Pc, being them exclusive titles. clyde46
So you're explicitly avoiding PC gaming? What's stopping you from playing both consoles and PC? Oh right, money... :roll: $50 can turn your PC into a gaming PC.
Most of the time, thats true but they own a POS Dell then its pointless trying to turn that into a gaming PC. I think the recent trend has been towards people buying PCs that are just "good enough" for everyday tasks -- using the internet, listening to music, talking to friends. Probably the most intensive act ordinary computer users use these days is playing 720p video files.And this has led to is an enormous growth in laptop use (unupgradeable components) and netbook purchases - you can't assume everyone even has a desktop computer anymore. Even if they do, chances are they have a pre-built rig, with an unfamiliar case, low power supply, lack of cooling, non-transferrable OEM OS, and outdated Mobo which can't support modern processors. And unless you're a techie, you probably have no need for a quad-core processor or even a dual core one.
its just mainly money. im on a tight budget so i stick to console gaming.
[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Most of the time, thats true but they own a POS Dell then its pointless trying to turn that into a gaming PC.clyde46
Even so, most recent PCs have a decent dual core and atleast 2 gig of RAM, and should have a PCI-E slot. You may need a new power supply, so you're looking at £70-80 max, and you'll end up with a PC capable of outperforming the consoles.
True, I just bought a Corsair 400W PSU for £34 :DNice, great brand, great price. :)
How dare you to bring logic to this thread!:evil:man these threads always get so out of control, alright im gonna try and spell this out for both sides
pc gamers
the only people who truelly believe that pc gaming is super expensive are ignorant people who havent done the research on it, with that being said though, the entry point for getting in to pc gaming CAN be higher then getting in to console gaming depending on several factors including if you already have an os, a monitor, keyboard etc, all that stuff does add up in price, so please pc gamers do keep in mind that the price of entery for some may be a little higher then the prices your quoting
console gamers
you have to understand that pc gamers do end up saving money overall with a gaming pc, if these saving are worth it is completely debatable depending on the person, ive personally saved a couple hundred bucks on steam sales, but thats beside the point, pc gaming does have its high points, and for you to come in to a thread about pc gaming and say "lulz i dun care :lol:" is very disrespectfull to the people who are trying to argue in the thread, if you dont care about pc gaming then whats really the point in coming in to the thread?
now FOR BOTH SIDES
whether you game on the wii, the psp, the 360 ps3 the pc, it doesnt matter what you game on, every system has a steller library of games to enjoy, this isnt gaming of old, every system has something to offer for everyone, the pc, believe it or not, does have games for pretty much every genre, and yes, there are rts's for gaming consoles, they may not control the same as pc but it still gives console gamers a chance to get the flavor of rts's/
at the end of the day everyone reading this isnt a hermit, a lemming, a cow or a sheep, were damn gamers and i dont want you to forget that
linkin_guy109
True, I just bought a Corsair 400W PSU for £34 :D[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]
Even so, most recent PCs have a decent dual core and atleast 2 gig of RAM, and should have a PCI-E slot. You may need a new power supply, so you're looking at £70-80 max, and you'll end up with a PC capable of outperforming the consoles.
WhenCicadasCry
Nice, great brand, great price. :)
Its going in my folding rig :DHow dare you to bring logic to this thread!:evil: its such a hard thing to come by in system wars some days :P[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"]
man these threads always get so out of control, alright im gonna try and spell this out for both sides
pc gamers
the only people who truelly believe that pc gaming is super expensive are ignorant people who havent done the research on it, with that being said though, the entry point for getting in to pc gaming CAN be higher then getting in to console gaming depending on several factors including if you already have an os, a monitor, keyboard etc, all that stuff does add up in price, so please pc gamers do keep in mind that the price of entery for some may be a little higher then the prices your quoting
console gamers
you have to understand that pc gamers do end up saving money overall with a gaming pc, if these saving are worth it is completely debatable depending on the person, ive personally saved a couple hundred bucks on steam sales, but thats beside the point, pc gaming does have its high points, and for you to come in to a thread about pc gaming and say "lulz i dun care :lol:" is very disrespectfull to the people who are trying to argue in the thread, if you dont care about pc gaming then whats really the point in coming in to the thread?
now FOR BOTH SIDES
whether you game on the wii, the psp, the 360 ps3 the pc, it doesnt matter what you game on, every system has a steller library of games to enjoy, this isnt gaming of old, every system has something to offer for everyone, the pc, believe it or not, does have games for pretty much every genre, and yes, there are rts's for gaming consoles, they may not control the same as pc but it still gives console gamers a chance to get the flavor of rts's/
at the end of the day everyone reading this isnt a hermit, a lemming, a cow or a sheep, were damn gamers and i dont want you to forget that
Arach666
Seriously? Despite all the advantages, there are still pure console gamers and it blows my mind.
PC gaming is:
1) not that expensive. I've seen good PC's built for 500 if your REALLY on budget.
2) Has more high scoring exclusives than all 3 consoles combined
3) Has mods, I've seen mods offered for free that are superior to expansion packs. Infact, many games IMO like Rome Total War would be garbage without mods. They can completely revolutionize a game.
4) I've found that PC games generally have the best and most mature community of players
5) PC gaming has unmatched technical power and the versatility it gives is next to none. While consoles are likely to be stuck with 1080p even on the NEXT generation, PC gaming, if you are willing to spend the money, can be running across multiple monitors with features like eyefinity.1920x1200 x 3 is 5760p.
6) Yes, PC gaming can be played on your "comfy" couch and you can connect your PC to your HDTV. If you don't want to use the superior M+K (superior for most genres that is) for a game, you can just connect a controller. LIke I said before, VERSATILITY
7) Best versions of all multiplats. Infact, some multiplats are so good on PC that they might as well be considered a whole different experience. Case in point, Team Fortress 2.
So, why do some people actually not game on PC?
argetlam00
1) Building a PC in general, let alone one for $500 requires a level of knowledge that the majority of computer owners, and probably console gamers, don't have or just don't care about. Why would someone who only wants to play games go through all the time and effort to learn how to build a PC and where to purchase all the best parts of the lowest price? I would argue the people who DO this are already mostly hardcore PC fans and probably not the console gamers you are trying to convert.
2) Sure, if you include small independant games, which most don't play (and many download illegally) or games going back the last 20 years which probably most people you are trying to convert have either already played, and not been converted to hardcore PC, or aren't interested in doing step 1 for.
3) Sure, mods can be cool, but why support a game in the first place if it is total garbage and up to users to actually make the game good?
4) Debatable. I suspect most online communities are mostly the same. Just that PC online is older and has a much larger audience so it could be easier to find mature players.
5) okay. I don't think people really care that much about resolution beyond whether it is HD or not.
6) I personally don't know why anyone would want to lug their rig around to keep hooking it up to monitor, tv, etc. Seems like a pain in the behind when they could just get a console and leave it be.
7) okay.
I don't own a "gaming PC." I recently bought an older Imac but it is still new enough to run StarCraft2...which is the first PC game I've bought in probably $20 years. And I like it a lot. But it isn't going to convert me to be a regular PC gamer. The overwhelming majority of games I like and play are single player, non-online, non-multiplater games. I don't like FPS and while i support SC2, I typically don't play RTS either. So that eliminates the majority of PC games that you would probably use to back your whole arguement. I know I'm not the only one who thinks this way.
The simple fact is that not everyone is as into PCs as the fanboys and hermits and die-hards are. I'm glad you love it so much, but I don't. I stopped caring about PC gaming a long time ago when I felt it shifting to a heavier focus on areas I simply didn't enjoy. So I let my PC die and replaced it with more of a non-gaming Mac. Sorry you "don't get it" but it isn't up to you to get or undertand. It has nothing to do with you and I don't get why you should care or why it is any of your business. I simply don't care for PC gaming and no matter what I or anyone else says, you will just come back with more reasons or excuses or insults. So why bother?
No, I was politely giving him the benefit of the doubt. That said, if you'd like me to say it, then who am I to disappoint my adoring fans?[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Arach666"] Are we going to see you type for the 1000th time that you know about PC gaming again?WhenCicadasCry
The generally consensus is "PC gaming is too complex", which in my mind translates to technophobia. Just because you owned both consoles and a gaming PC doesn't mean my original response may not be true. :|
You said "the only reason". Looks like you forgot to leave yourself some wiggle room this time.
No,what you did was showing me games that are a great reason to own ALL consoles,while the PC is only one system.[QUOTE="Arach666"]
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then go ahead make the list... Im actually curious since I pay no attention to PC releases.
All I did was mention games that are a great reason to own a console. Not saying thats more than PC, but please show me a PC list.
alfredooo
I´m not going to bother to make a list,I´ve done that more times than I should and it´s pointless just like your own. See the spradsheet and see yourself what the PC has as a single system,more AE,AAE and AAAE games than all consoles combined.
And don´t even bother to say that you have no interest in those games because I can say the same with the games you posted.
cool... I wasn't aware of that list. Thanks. But it shows that both the 360 and PS3 have more AAAA and AAA. (not even combined)
"It's a given that the PC version of a multiplatform game is gonna look better. But MW2 on PC is getting compared to other PC shooters. I played that version, not the console versions, and while MW2 looks good, it looks no better than what you'd expect it to look like. If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time." Kevin V
So yeah just goes to show you a AAA on PC is worth more than a AAA on consoles. If SC2 was on consoles it would have a AAAA, along with Crysis, and World In Conflict, etc. Games like BF:BC 2 would actually be a 9.5 if the PC version was on consoles. And so on...
Most of the time, thats true but they own a POS Dell then its pointless trying to turn that into a gaming PC.[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]
So you're explicitly avoiding PC gaming? What's stopping you from playing both consoles and PC? Oh right, money... :roll: $50 can turn your PC into a gaming PC.
WhenCicadasCry
Even so, most recent PCs have a decent dual core and atleast 2 gig of RAM, and should have a PCI-E slot. You may need a new power supply, so you're looking at £70-80 max, and you'll end up with a PC capable of outperforming the consoles.
meh, the cost argument is pointless. The ds is cheaper than the consoles and has alot of games too. Heck the ps2 is super cheap right now and has tons.There's a few reasons, here are mines:
-Building a rig is expensive. You can buy pretty much any console with that 500 and still have some left over for a game or two.
-I'm a dumbass in terms of building PCs to begin with, so that's out of the question.
-You have to upgrade it every few years to play the newest games. There, money is spent again.
-The games are expensive. Good PC games range for like 70 dollars each now.
-I don't really game that much anymore anyways. (this is my opinion and no one needs to agree with this)
-PC failures. My consoles have never failed in the middle of a game, but my old PC always crashed every now and then for some reason.
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