Why would anyone not own a gaming PC?

I like the uniformity of console features and online communities, I also don't like the idea of relying on a PC for gaming, as PCs are unreliable and unstable.

I also despise m/kb for controlling games. If I'm going to use a game pad anyway, why not play on a console?

[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"]

man these threads always get so out of control, alright im gonna try and spell this out for both sides

pc gamers

the only people who truelly believe that pc gaming is super expensive are ignorant people who havent done the research on it, with that being said though, the entry point for getting in to pc gaming CAN be higher then getting in to console gaming depending on several factors including if you already have an os, a monitor, keyboard etc, all that stuff does add up in price, so please pc gamers do keep in mind that the price of entery for some may be a little higher then the prices your quoting

console gamers

you have to understand that pc gamers do end up saving money overall with a gaming pc, if these saving are worth it is completely debatable depending on the person, ive personally saved a couple hundred bucks on steam sales, but thats beside the point, pc gaming does have its high points, and for you to come in to a thread about pc gaming and say "lulz i dun care :lol:" is very disrespectfull to the people who are trying to argue in the thread, if you dont care about pc gaming then whats really the point in coming in to the thread?

now FOR BOTH SIDES

whether you game on the wii, the psp, the 360 ps3 the pc, it doesnt matter what you game on, every system has a steller library of games to enjoy, this isnt gaming of old, every system has something to offer for everyone, the pc, believe it or not, does have games for pretty much every genre, and yes, there are rts's for gaming consoles, they may not control the same as pc but it still gives console gamers a chance to get the flavor of rts's/

at the end of the day everyone reading this isnt a hermit, a lemming, a cow or a sheep, were damn gamers and i dont want you to forget that

Arach666

well a gaming laptop that is my size would be 1800 bucks. so no thanks :P

Cost me less than a 360 game

Preference and inclination towards something over another. How this concept is not yet understood by several people goes beyond me.

I don't understand why we are arguing price, scores, and preference. Some people do not want to invest in a gaming rig while others do, regardless of price. Scores can only tell a person what grade the game received. It does not automatically mean that everyone is going to like every AAA game ever released.

There is so much wrong with these kinds of threads. I feel like people just want to argue just for the sake of arguing. I could mention that before I entered this thread, I saw another few threads explaining how the PS3 is better than the 360 in sales and exclusives and how the Wii does not count for anything, but now they are all in a unified friendship to win against PC. I'm not trying to take sides here, but this is what I see often in these threads along with the double standards and misconceptions that follow.

My disappointment really comes from the fact that this topic will be remade in a new thread with the same arguments and the same replies while pushing preference as an argument. It never ends. Ever. This isn't the first thread about 1 vs. 3 and it will definitely not be the last.

[QUOTE="aia89"] it does make sense. I don't like using a Pc for gaming, what's so hard to understand? when I do want to spend some time playing a game, I do it in the living room, sitting on a couch, in front of a fairly big Tv. and I have a console for that. Plus, there are games that appeal to me on consoles that I won't be able to play on Pc, being them exclusive titles. kaitanuvax

And who says you can't connect a TV to a PC? Wireless keyboard, mice if you prefer? I'm not talking about preferences, here, which you obviously are touting. The fact is that a PC can do it all, you just choose not to because you're too used to the console.

And while there are exclusives for consoles, thats the developers fault. A PC has the ABILITY to play every game just as good as a console can.

Let me ask you this - CAN consoles play World of Warcraft just as good as the PC?

Key words: CAN, CHOICE. Not LIKE, WANT.

I'm not arguing the Pc's prowess and superiority to consoles. it is indeed the best system overall. I just prefer to game on console, that's it. yes, I'm lazy, but I don't game much anyway, no time, and when I do it, when I feel like it, I envision myself sprawled on the couch, holding a wireless controller, spending 30 mins/1h playing X game, Alan Wake atm. when I really have a lot of time, like on vacation, I'd rather spend my time at the sea, friends, village festivals, family etc. if the weather sucks, then there may also be time for pc gaming; The Sims 3 atm.

I'm not gonna move my Pc to the living room, just to connect it to the HDTv, no way. there's a console there already, I repeat, my computer is fine where it is.

I use both but I prefer PC. It is actually cheaper in the long run, especially with steam deals. Plus PC has a ton of exclusives and great online communities. Then you have mods which turn your one game into 6 different games. Plus all the customization options. PC is definitelybetter than consoles IMO. The only benefits consoles really have are splitscreen, which I find pointless and annoying, and mobility, but I have never carried any of my consoles anywhere unless I moved, so really they have nothing.

There's a few reasons, here are mines:

-Building a rig is expensive. You can buy pretty much any console with that 500 and still have some left over for a game or two.

-I'm a dumbass in terms of building PCs to begin with, so that's out of the question.

-You have to upgrade it every few years to play the newest games. There, money is spent again.

-The games are expensive. Good PC games range for like 70 dollars each now.

-I don't really game that much anymore anyways. (this is my opinion and no one needs to agree with this)

-PC failures. My consoles have never failed in the middle of a game, but my old PC always crashed every now and then for some reason.

Desulated

[QUOTE="Desulated"]

There's a few reasons, here are mines:

-Building a rig is expensive. You can buy pretty much any console with that 500 and still have some left over for a game or two.

-I'm a dumbass in terms of building PCs to begin with, so that's out of the question.

-You have to upgrade it every few years to play the newest games. There, money is spent again.

-The games are expensive. Good PC games range for like 70 dollars each now.

-I don't really game that much anymore anyways. (this is my opinion and no one needs to agree with this)

-PC failures. My consoles have never failed in the middle of a game, but my old PC always crashed every now and then for some reason.

Merex760

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Most of the time, thats true but they own a POS Dell then its pointless trying to turn that into a gaming PC.TerrorRizzing

Even so, most recent PCs have a decent dual core and atleast 2 gig of RAM, and should have a PCI-E slot. You may need a new power supply, so you're looking at £70-80 max, and you'll end up with a PC capable of outperforming the consoles.

It is neat though, how effortlessly you can turn pretty much all PCs out there into gaming rigs. Even first-gen Eee PCs can play most major PC games up to ~2002.

man these threads always get so out of control, alright im gonna try and spell this out for both sides

pc gamers

the only people who truelly believe that pc gaming is super expensive are ignorant people who havent done the research on it, with that being said though, the entry point for getting in to pc gaming CAN be higher then getting in to console gaming depending on several factors including if you already have an os, a monitor, keyboard etc, all that stuff does add up in price, so please pc gamers do keep in mind that the price of entery for some may be a little higher then the prices your quoting

console gamers

you have to understand that pc gamers do end up saving money overall with a gaming pc, if these saving are worth it is completely debatable depending on the person, ive personally saved a couple hundred bucks on steam sales, but thats beside the point, pc gaming does have its high points, and for you to come in to a thread about pc gaming and say "lulz i dun care :lol:" is very disrespectfull to the people who are trying to argue in the thread, if you dont care about pc gaming then whats really the point in coming in to the thread?

now FOR BOTH SIDES

whether you game on the wii, the psp, the 360 ps3 the pc, it doesnt matter what you game on, every system has a steller library of games to enjoy, this isnt gaming of old, every system has something to offer for everyone, the pc, believe it or not, does have games for pretty much every genre, and yes, there are rts's for gaming consoles, they may not control the same as pc but it still gives console gamers a chance to get the flavor of rts's/

at the end of the day everyone reading this isnt a hermit, a lemming, a cow or a sheep, were damn gamers and i dont want you to forget that

linkin_guy109

wow 8) someone saw the Sony press confrance ;) great way to sum it up. ... "Games forever may he rule" Your rightKevin B.

[QUOTE="Merex760"][QUOTE="Desulated"]

There's a few reasons, here are mines:

-Building a rig is expensive. You can buy pretty much any console with that 500 and still have some left over for a game or two.

-I'm a dumbass in terms of building PCs to begin with, so that's out of the question.

-You have to upgrade it every few years to play the newest games. There, money is spent again.

-The games are expensive. Good PC games range for like 70 dollars each now.

-I don't really game that much anymore anyways. (this is my opinion and no one needs to agree with this)

-PC failures. My consoles have never failed in the middle of a game, but my old PC always crashed every now and then for some reason.

SparkyProtocol

While PC gaming might not be more expensive than console gaming on the long run, getting a good gaming PC does require a big investment, and that's not something everyone's willing (or able) to make. Apart from that PC gaming is more complicated as well, and taking full advantage of a good PC requires some knowledge of how the machine works.

I ended up with a gaming PC somehow, but I'm lucky people around me know more about PCs than I do, or it wouldn't have been as fun.

my PC runs SC2 and WoW that all i really care about

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Even so, most recent PCs have a decent dual core and atleast 2 gig of RAM, and should have a PCI-E slot. You may need a new power supply, so you're looking at £70-80 max, and you'll end up with a PC capable of outperforming the consoles.

SakusEnvoy

It is neat though, how effortlessly you can turn pretty much all PCs out there into gaming rigs. Even first-gen Eee PCs can play most major PC games up to ~2002.

A midend Dual Core CPU released 2 years ago, paired with a HD3850, which can be out performed by a $50 9800GT. :roll:

Think of console owners as 3 siblings and a pc as a Creepy pedo just itching to get you in his van.

mccoyca112

[QUOTE="aia89"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

So you're explicitly avoiding PC gaming? What's stopping you from playing both consoles and PC? Oh right, money... :roll: $50 can turn your PC into a gaming PC.

WhenCicadasCry

What has this got to do with anything? I do sit infront of my PC alot, while doing college work though. :P I can understand if people find PC gaming daunting due to technology changes, but someone who purposely shys away from PC gaming, and the games it offers, just confuses me.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="aia89"] do you sit in front of a pc 9 hours a day for work? I thought so. I don't avoid Pc gaming, I do play The Sims 3 from time to time.aia89

What has this got to do with anything? I do sit infront of my PC alot, while doing college work though. :P I can understand if people find PC gaming daunting due to technology changes, but someone who purposely shys away from PC gaming, and the games it offers, just confuses me.

I mean't that last sentence for the majority, not just you, sorry. :)

[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

Think of console owners as 3 siblings and a pc as a Creepy pedo just itching to get you in his van.

Bigboi500

Money, convenience, preference. Three big factors, on top of other things, such as; lacking technical knowledge of the system, not wanting to build their own computer, on top of other things.

I find a reason to own all the systems, and I understand why mane people may not want to game on PC.

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"] meh, the cost argument is pointless. The ds is cheaper than the consoles and has alot of games too. Heck the ps2 is super cheap right now and has tons.WhenCicadasCry

It is neat though, how effortlessly you can turn pretty much all PCs out there into gaming rigs. Even first-gen Eee PCs can play most major PC games up to ~2002.

A midend Dual Core CPU released 2 years ago, paired with a HD3850, which can be out performed by a $50 9800GT. :roll:

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

Money, most people dont like to spend it.

Yet, PC games are cheaper than console games (especially when we start talking Steam deals) and you get far more than gaming with a new PC.

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Yet, PC games are cheaper than console games (especially when we start talking Steam deals) and you get far more than gaming with a new PC.

hd5870corei7

What?! If you're not going to be serious don't bother posting because your coming off as a troll.

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Yet, PC games are cheaper than console games (especially when we start talking Steam deals) and you get far more than gaming with a new PC.

hd5870corei7

you use the Tv not only for gaming, while the monitor is needed if you wanna use a Pc.

No its not? $2000 PC + $200 monitor vs $2000 HDTV + $300 console 50 PC games = $20 on average 50 console games = $50 on average PC hardware : $2200 Console hardware $2300 PC games = $1000 Console games = $2500 PC gamer spends : $3200 Console gamer spends : $4800 PC gaming = significantly cheaper.hd5870corei7

Ok, first, why is the TV $2000? A perfectly fine TV for gaming can be had for sub-$1000, unless you are an extreme videophile, or just like expensive TV's.

Second, the PC price is entirely variable, so it's not really an apples to apples comparison. A PC can range from $500 up to thousands of dollars.

Third, why is your avg. PC game price $20? Are you buying very old cheap games? If you're doing that, you can take into account used game prices, which if you shop around, can be had for very cheap -- just like with the PC.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

Think of console owners as 3 siblings and a pc as a Creepy pedo just itching to get you in his van.

lowe0

you use the Tv not only for gaming, while the monitor is needed if you wanna use a Pc.

aia89

Unless you use the TV as a monitor. It's one of the reasons I don't personally include TV's/Monitors in the total costs.

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Console gaming is cheaper. aia89

you use the Tv not only for gaming, while the monitor is needed if you wanna use a Pc.

Because of the price...it really all comes down to money, oh and the fact that all my friends pretty much play on consoles...I have very little reason to spend a bunch of money on a gaming PC, when I can play many many many quality games on consoles.

I don't get these silly consolites that always say "$3000 PC is a must to be a PC gamer"

But when we say, okay "$3000 HDTV is a must to be a Console gamer"

Consolites reply: Bu bu bu bu but teh hdteevees are more than games :cry: !

hd5870corei7

Console hypocite #2. You can have a perfectly fine gaming PC for sub-$1000 unless your a graphics hoe or just like expensive PCs. PC games go cheap MUCH quicker than console games. Left 4 Dead 2, Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Bioshock 2 all 3 fairly used, non used can be bought for under $40 in the UK.hd5870corei7

Do you even know my post history? I'm an avid supporter of PC :lol:

Your first point, I already clarified when I stated:

Second, the PC price is entirely variable, so it's not really an apples to apples comparison. A PC can range from $500 up to thousands of dollars.

lundy86_4

Second, PC games don't always go cheaper *much* quicker than console games, as you can often pick up used versions for quite a bit less (unless you shop at Gamestop). Oft times, even on Steam, prices remain quite high for a substantial period of time. As an example, RE5 is still $49.99 on Steam, whereas it can currently be had for $22 on Amazon. It's not always a given that they get cheaper faster, but it does happen on occasion (especially with Steam sales), however many brick and mortar stores have sales, especially now within this economy.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"] No its not? $2000 PC + $200 monitor vs $2000 HDTV + $300 console 50 PC games = $20 on average 50 console games = $50 on average PC hardware : $2200 Console hardware $2300 PC games = $1000 Console games = $2500 PC gamer spends : $3200 Console gamer spends : $4800 PC gaming = significantly cheaper.hd5870corei7

Ok, first, why is the TV $2000? A perfectly fine TV for gaming can be had for sub-$1000, unless you are an extreme videophile, or just like expensive TV's.

Second, the PC price is entirely variable, so it's not really an apples to apples comparison. A PC can range from $500 up to thousands of dollars.

Third, why is your avg. PC game price $20? Are you buying very old cheap games? If you're doing that, you can take into account used game prices, which if you shop around, can be had for very cheap -- just like with the PC.

I don't get these silly consolites that always say "$3000 PC is a must to be a PC gamer"

But when we say, okay "$3000 HDTV is a must to be a Console gamer"

Consolites reply: Bu bu bu bu but teh hdteevees are more than games :cry: !

hd5870corei7

You don't need a $3,000 TV or PC, really. hell, I play all my consoles on a $100 TV I bought at WalMart seven years ago or so and I completely enjoy the games I play on it. It might not look as good as an HDTV, but I play games more for gameplay than visuals, so I don't care.

Same could probably be said for many PC gamers.

500$ custom rigs are awful they may have a decent cpu/gpu in them but the parts are cheap you cant polish a tard

Most people don't seem to care about pc exclusives many of them a nitch titles and expantion pacsk

Unless its your hobbie most people dont want to make there own machine oems really rise the price on pc gaming .

mods are over rated most of them are awful or not supported well .

500$ custom rigs are awful they may have a decent cpu/gpu in them but the parts are cheap you cant polish a tard

Most people don't seem to care about pc exclusives many of them a nitch titles and expantion pacsk

Unless its your hobbie most people dont want to make there own machine oems really rise the price on pc gaming .

mods are over rated most of them are awful or not supported well .

dontshackzmii

500$ custom rigs are awful they may have a decent cpu/gpu in them but the parts are cheap you cant polish a tard

Most people don't seem to care about pc exclusives many of them a nitch titles and expantion pacsk

Unless its your hobbie most people dont want to make there own machine oems really rise the price on pc gaming .

mods are over rated most of them are awful or not supported well .

dontshackzmii

Not true...

All quality parts: Asus, G-Skill, AMD, OCZ, etc.

$560 with rebates:

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1973/560pc.jpg

· Case

· DVD Drive

· 550W PSU

· KB/M + Speakers

· AMD Quad Core Black Edition 2.5ghz

· CPU Fan

· AM2+ MOBO

· Windows 7

· 2GB DDR2 800

· 320GB HDD 7200rpm

· ATI 5770 1GB

· USB TV Tuner

[QUOTE="aia89"]

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"] No its not? $2000 PC + $200 monitor vs $2000 HDTV + $300 console 50 PC games = $20 on average 50 console games = $50 on average PC hardware : $2200 Console hardware $2300 PC games = $1000 Console games = $2500 PC gamer spends : $3200 Console gamer spends : $4800 PC gaming = significantly cheaper.hd5870corei7

you use the Tv not only for gaming, while the monitor is needed if you wanna use a Pc.

No, but most people already have a PC, and many of them don't have an HD monitor. Buying an HD monitor would solely be for gaming, in addition to the PC itself.

Outside of gaming, there is no need for an HD monitor, as for the TVs you have games, films, television all providing HD content.

I never stated that this was the REALITY, but the PERCETPION and as we know perception becomes reality in peoples minds until proven different by what ever means they accept.Ravenlore_basic

500$ custom rigs are awful they may have a decent cpu/gpu in them but the parts are cheap you cant polish a tard

Most people don't seem to care about pc exclusives many of them a nitch titles and expantion pacsk

Unless its your hobbie most people dont want to make there own machine oems really rise the price on pc gaming .

mods are over rated most of them are awful or not supported well .

dontshackzmii

lol at super ignorance. Even OLD 500 dollar rigs can play Crysis max 30+ FPS

that rig sucks try harderdontshackzmii

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Yet, PC games are cheaper than console games (especially when we start talking Steam deals) and you get far more than gaming with a new PC.

hd5870corei7

Who really buys a $2000 HDTV anymore?...thats your first problem. I can get a perfectly nice 32" HDTV for $399.99 and if I really wanna go large I can get a 50" TV for $699.99 right now at Best Buy (name brand Samsung btw for those who are wondering). The only TVs that are $2000 are 3DTVS and possibly some very very large, very very high end, LED televisions...maybe a 70" LED TV or something. Hell, I can get a 50" 3D TV for $1600.

Secondly there are many many $20 console games you want me to make a list of all the Wii, 360, or PS3 $20 games? Half the reason there are so many cheap PC games is because many of them are 10 years old? Why don't you compare some games made within the same time frame? If were using PC games from 2004 lets compare that to some Xbox and PS2 games...hmmm wonder which is cheaper now? Or compare some PC games made from 2007-2010 to console games from that same time. The PC games may end up a little cheaper still, but it won't be anything significant.

PC gaming is superior in graphics and customizable ability, but it certainly is not cheaper.

500$ custom rigs are awful they may have a decent cpu/gpu in them but the parts are cheap you cant polish a tard

Most people don't seem to care about pc exclusives many of them a nitch titles and expantion pacsk

Unless its your hobbie most people dont want to make there own machine oems really rise the price on pc gaming .

mods are over rated most of them are awful or not supported well .

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

500$ custom rigs are awful they may have a decent cpu/gpu in them but the parts are cheap you cant polish a tard

Most people don't seem to care about pc exclusives many of them a nitch titles and expantion pacsk

Unless its your hobbie most people dont want to make there own machine oems really rise the price on pc gaming .

mods are over rated most of them are awful or not supported well .

dontshackzmii

Not true...

All quality parts: Asus, G-Skill, AMD, OCZ, etc.

$560 with rebates:

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1973/560pc.jpg

· Case

· DVD Drive

· 550W PSU

· KB/M + Speakers

· AMD Quad Core Black Edition 2.5ghz

· CPU Fan

· AM2+ MOBO

· Windows 7

· 2GB DDR2 800

· 320GB HDD 7200rpm

·ATI 5770 1GB

· USB TV Tuner

that rig sucks try harder