Wii 2 (Project Cafe) may not have a hard drive. Just 8gb of Flash memory

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#151 Dibdibdobdobo
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Too Sandwhichman about "I own 20+ Games and your opinion > Mine"

When did you mind-jack me to find out how many games ive played or purchased on the Wii?! Ohhh you are assuming and was wrong. Bad idea....

Next time dont assume you are right as you are clearly not.

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#152 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Yeah, it sounds better, totally incacurate, but at least it sounds funny.

madsnakehhh

Well this generation is a perfect example of such a cycle, nintendo has hardly delivered in anything except sales, the handfull of good games, which mind you, hardly use motion controls should say something, id argue they would be better without. Compared to the hd twins, the wii has been horrible in overall library, and thats what counts the most for any gamer. The games,

Exactly, that's why i say so condifent Nintendo delivered this gen :)

Your kidding me right, do i have to bring out a list?
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#153 Sandvichman
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Too Sandwhichman about "I own 20+ Games"

When did you mind-jack me to find out how many games ive played or purchased on the Wii?! Ohhh you are assuming and was wrong. Bad idea....

Dibdibdobdobo
I dont need any more games to make a judgement of a console.
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#154 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

Too Sandwhichman about "I own 20+ Games"

When did you mind-jack me to find out how many games ive played or purchased on the Wii?! Ohhh you are assuming and was wrong. Bad idea....

Sandvichman

I dont need any more games to make a judgement of a console.

Well give us the low-down on all those games then. Write up a list of those games so we can make judgement rather than yourself.

All System Warriors love making Lists....... Only thing we have in common.

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#155 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

don't forget,

twilight princess

metroid prime 3

ssbb

mario kart wii

madworld

no more heroes

no more heroes 2

metroid other m

kirby's epic yarn

sin and punishment 2

goldeneye 007

that's about half of the great + exclusives.

theuncharted34

Less than 15 games and it's been out for 4.5 years, lol.:lol:

your sig has been bugging me. is it there because you laugh at it or what? because you're no different from that poster.

I just thought it was funny, I don't agree with the guy saying Metroid Prime is a Halo clone. I may not like Wii, but I'm not like that.

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#156 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

Too Sandwhichman about "I own 20+ Games"

When did you mind-jack me to find out how many games ive played or purchased on the Wii?! Ohhh you are assuming and was wrong. Bad idea....

Sandvichman

I dont need any more games to make a judgement of a console.

I think we should create a universallist and just copy and paste it whenever the Sheep start to think the Wii actually actually has a good library of games.

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#157 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Well this generation is a perfect example of such a cycle, nintendo has hardly delivered in anything except sales, the handfull of good games, which mind you, hardly use motion controls should say something, id argue they would be better without. Compared to the hd twins, the wii has been horrible in overall library, and thats what counts the most for any gamer. The games,Sandvichman

Exactly, that's why i say so condifent Nintendo delivered this gen :)

Your kidding me right, do i have to bring out a list?

Of what? :?

Of the games that you "have" for the Wii and don't like it, or of the games you have for other consoles that YOU find better, i don't know why you should post that list, i could also post a list about the games i have for Wii and for PS3, but i honestly don't know what would it add to this discussion.

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#158 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

Too Sandwhichman about "I own 20+ Games"

When did you mind-jack me to find out how many games ive played or purchased on the Wii?! Ohhh you are assuming and was wrong. Bad idea....

StealthMonkey4

I dont need any more games to make a judgement of a console.

I think we should create a universallist and just copy and paste it whenever the Sheep start to think the Wii actually actually has a good library of games.

Who said i was a Sheep?! I remember last week everyone calling me a Nintendo hater as i asked "Should Miyamoto retire" in a thread.

So yet again you are wrong. How many times can one person be wrong in a single thread!!

Im a computer game enthusiast and that is all i am. I dont have no loyalty to a developer! They dont pay my bills, come out drinking with, Practice martial arts with me, Not family, Not friends....

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#159 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

Too Sandwhichman about "I own 20+ Games"

When did you mind-jack me to find out how many games ive played or purchased on the Wii?! Ohhh you are assuming and was wrong. Bad idea....

Dibdibdobdobo

I dont need any more games to make a judgement of a console.

Well give us the low-down on all those games then. Write up a list of those games so we can make judgement rather than yourself.

Mario galaxy 2 New super mario bros wii Twilight princess Wii sport resort No more heroes No more heroes 2 Okami Conduit Epic yarn SSSB Monster hunter 3 Epic mickey ( horrible) Cursed mountain Metroid prime 3 Call of duty 4 Donkey kong country returns Mario kart wii Carnival something And some other shovelware games

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#160 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

Too Sandwhichman about "I own 20+ Games"

When did you mind-jack me to find out how many games ive played or purchased on the Wii?! Ohhh you are assuming and was wrong. Bad idea....

StealthMonkey4

I dont need any more games to make a judgement of a console.

I think we should create a universallist and just copy and paste it whenever the Sheep start to think the Wii actually actually has a good library of games.

Yeah, because a list made by people who dislike a console will totally disapprove the opinion of people who like the console :roll:

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#161 runbleduck
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And once again Nintendo pulled a Wii on 3rd party developers by making their system one generation behind. Considering Wii and 3DS games don't even look as good as Xbox and PSP games respectively, expect cafe games to look worse than the 360. And yea, looks like it's confirmed that Nintendo has abandoned motion control and its wiimote controller. Having it as an optional addon/support is a death kneel.
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#162 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Exactly, that's why i say so condifent Nintendo delivered this gen :)

madsnakehhh

Your kidding me right, do i have to bring out a list?

Of what? :?

Of the games that you "have" for the Wii and don't like it, or of the games you have for other consoles that YOU find better, i don't know why you should post that list, i could also post a list about the games i have for Wii and for PS3, but i honestly don't know what would it add to this discussion.

Its nice that for you, they delivered, but using straight numbers, nintendo didnt even get the delivery order compared to the other consoles, let alone the pc. To me, they didnt deliver, i was highly dissapointed, sure the gamecube wasnt any better, but nothing on the wii beats luigis mansion.
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#163 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] I dont need any more games to make a judgement of a console. Dibdibdobdobo

I think we should create a universallist and just copy and paste it whenever the Sheep start to think the Wii actually actually has a good library of games.

Who said i was a Sheep?! I remember last week everyone calling me a Nintendo hater as i asked "Should Miyamoto retire" in a thread. So yet again you are wrong. How many times can one person be wrong about someone in one thread.

I dunno, I never did so I don't know why this is directed towards me.

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#164 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] I dont need any more games to make a judgement of a console. madsnakehhh

I think we should create a universallist and just copy and paste it whenever the Sheep start to think the Wii actually actually has a good library of games.

Yeah, because a list made by people who dislike a console will totally disapprove the opinion of people who like the console :roll:

That's not my point, people say it has a good library and lots of good games, it just simply does not.

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#165 Sandvichman
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Well, there goes the indie scene.

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#166 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"] I dont need any more games to make a judgement of a console. Sandvichman

Well give us the low-down on all those games then. Write up a list of those games so we can make judgement rather than yourself.

Mario galaxy 2 New super mario bros wii Twilight princess Wii sport resort No more heroes No more heroes 2 Okami Conduit Epic yarn SSSB Monster hunter 3 Epic mickey ( horrible) Cursed mountain Metroid prime 3 Call of duty 4 Donkey kong country returns Mario kart wii Carnival something And some other shovelware games

I'm actually amazed, how a person is able to buy that many games for a console they don't even like in the first place, talk about having a lot of money, gladly i almost never buy games that i know i won't enjoy.

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#167 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"] I dont need any more games to make a judgement of a console. Sandvichman

Well give us the low-down on all those games then. Write up a list of those games so we can make judgement rather than yourself.

Mario galaxy 2 New super mario bros wii Twilight princess Wii sport resort No more heroes No more heroes 2 Okami Conduit Epic yarn SSSB Monster hunter 3 Epic mickey ( horrible) Cursed mountain Metroid prime 3 Call of duty 4 Donkey kong country returns Mario kart wii Carnival something And some other shovelware games

Thats not the same ammount as you proclaimed. FAIL.
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#168 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] Well give us the low-down on all those games then. Write up a list of those games so we can make judgement rather than yourself. madsnakehhh

Mario galaxy 2 New super mario bros wii Twilight princess Wii sport resort No more heroes No more heroes 2 Okami Conduit Epic yarn SSSB Monster hunter 3 Epic mickey ( horrible) Cursed mountain Metroid prime 3 Call of duty 4 Donkey kong country returns Mario kart wii Carnival something And some other shovelware games

I'm actually amazed, how a person is able to buy that many games for a console they don't even like in the first place, talk about having a lot of money, gladly i almost never buy games that i know i won't enjoy.

Where did i say that ever disliked or hated the wii?
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#169 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

I think we should create a universallist and just copy and paste it whenever the Sheep start to think the Wii actually actually has a good library of games.

StealthMonkey4

Yeah, because a list made by people who dislike a console will totally disapprove the opinion of people who like the console :roll:

That's not my point, people say it has a good library and lots of good games, it just simply does not.

Hmm, yes it does, you might not like them, but it has a great library.

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#170 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] Well give us the low-down on all those games then. Write up a list of those games so we can make judgement rather than yourself. Dibdibdobdobo

Mario galaxy 2 New super mario bros wii Twilight princess Wii sport resort No more heroes No more heroes 2 Okami Conduit Epic yarn SSSB Monster hunter 3 Epic mickey ( horrible) Cursed mountain Metroid prime 3 Call of duty 4 Donkey kong country returns Mario kart wii Carnival something And some other shovelware games

Thats not the same ammount as you proclaimed. FAIL.

Oh jezuz, 8 games i cant remember, cut me some slack will you? The fact hat i cant remember the rest just proves how mediocre those other games were, 360 however, know every single one.
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#171 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

I think we should create a universallist and just copy and paste it whenever the Sheep start to think the Wii actually actually has a good library of games.

StealthMonkey4

Who said i was a Sheep?! I remember last week everyone calling me a Nintendo hater as i asked "Should Miyamoto retire" in a thread. So yet again you are wrong. How many times can one person be wrong about someone in one thread.

I dunno, I never did so I don't know why this is directed towards me.

Because i was in the quote thats why.
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#172 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Yeah, because a list made by people who dislike a console will totally disapprove the opinion of people who like the console :roll:

madsnakehhh

That's not my point, people say it has a good library and lots of good games, it just simply does not.

Hmm, yes it does, you might not like them, but it has a great library.

It has significantly less AAA and AA(and probably A, but I don't know)games than the other systems, you can like it more, butit doesn't excuse the fact that its library isawful.

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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

That's not my point, people say it has a good library and lots of good games, it just simply does not.

StealthMonkey4

Hmm, yes it does, you might not like them, but it has a great library.

It has significantly less AAA and AA(and probably A, but I don't know)games than the other systems, you can like it more, butit doesn't excuse the fact that its library isawful.

I was responding to Sandvichman, I referred to sheep in general, I didn't mention you or single you out at all...

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#174 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Mario galaxy 2 New super mario bros wii Twilight princess Wii sport resort No more heroes No more heroes 2 Okami Conduit Epic yarn SSSB Monster hunter 3 Epic mickey ( horrible) Cursed mountain Metroid prime 3 Call of duty 4 Donkey kong country returns Mario kart wii Carnival something And some other shovelware games

Sandvichman

Thats not the same ammount as you proclaimed. FAIL.

Oh jezuz, 8 games i cant remember, cut me some slack will you? The fact hat i cant remember the rest just proves how mediocre those other games were, 360 however, know every single one.

Thats called twisting your post to suit your argument with comments like "The fact hat i cant remember the rest just proves how mediocre those other games were, 360 however, know every single one. ". So which games you own for the 360? If you own all those, im sure you could just look over your shoulder and give us a more factual look at what games you own.

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#175 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Hmm, yes it does, you might not like them, but it has a great library.

StealthMonkey4

It has significantly less AAA and AA(and probably A, but I don't know)games than the other systems, you can like it more, butit doesn't excuse the fact that its library isawful.

I was responding to Sandvichman, I referred to sheep in general, I didn't mention you or single you out at all...

Quoted wrong thing. You sure about that?! Seemed more aimed towards me as Sandwhichman was replying towards my post.
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]You know the Sonic Cycle? Perhaps someone should come up with a Nintendo Cycle.Shinobishyguy
already broke the cycle last e3 when they has the best show of the three.

Best show, worst products. 3DS may have stolen the show, but now that it's out it's a disappointment. Also, even though they had a great sizzle reel, some of the games in it (particularly Metroid: Other M) did not live up to expectations.
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#177 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] Thats not the same ammount as you proclaimed. FAIL.Dibdibdobdobo

Oh jezuz, 8 games i cant remember, cut me some slack will you? The fact hat i cant remember the rest just proves how mediocre those other games were, 360 however, know every single one.

Thats called twisting your post to suit your argument with comments like "The fact hat i cant remember the rest just proves how mediocre those other games were, 360 however, know every single one. ". So which games you own for the 360? If you own all those, im sure you could just look over your shoulder and give us a more factual look at what games you own.

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#178 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

It has significantly less AAA and AA(and probably A, but I don't know)games than the other systems, you can like it more, butit doesn't excuse the fact that its library isawful.

Dibdibdobdobo

I was responding to Sandvichman, I referred to sheep in general, I didn't mention you or single you out at all...

Quoted wrong thing. You sure about that?! Seemed more aimed towards me as Sandwhichman was replying towards my post.

Yes, I'm sure...

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#179 super600  Moderator
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Lol! Nobody has read the updated rumor post.

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#180 StealthMonkey4
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Lol! Nobody has read the updated rumor post.

super600

I had planned to, but the link only lead to the site's homepage and not he article.

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#181 blizzvalve
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Well, this proves a lot. What this proves is that somebofy in the gaming media is lying. If these rumors from Kotaku (and possibly the rumors about Feel) were true, then this would proably be real.

The recent rumors lead to a slightly less powerful game console with a major feature to make it stand out against the competition. In comparison, when IGN, 01Net, and 1UP were discussing the system, they were saying it will be more powerful than the 360 and PS3, major third-party support, and a revamped online service. These are two different console ideas that contradict one another, where people are saying Nintendo is trying to appease "hardcore" gamers again.

In conclusion, it seems Kotaku, Loading, and that-website-that-will-not-be-named may be right about the new console. Since this generaton, Nintendo stopped trying to appease "hardcore" gamers, They can't continue releasing the same console as the other competitors every generation because they didn't have any support (and if the Gamecube proved anything, is that there isn't much support for a "true" hardcore Nintendo console). Instead of trying to be a "me too" console, Nintendo tried to differentiate themselves with the DS/Wii, trying to change their image in the process. Because of this, Nintendo became the top gaming hardware company.

A Few years ago, Nintendo gave some hints on some about the Wii 2, saying it will be smaller than the Wii and will feature a mobile quad-core processor. This contradicts the many rumors being said by IGN, saying it will have the same size and processor as a 360. If anything, many of the rumors coming from these sources will end up not being true. Instead, we're probably going to see something similar to the picture above: a small console with decent enough hardware for Nintendo and a new feature that will excite many people and anger others (something thats happening now). I wouldn't be surprised if this modem-looking hardware turns out to be true. It appears smaller than the Wii and also has the rumored Gamecube + screen controller behind it, but we won't know until Nintendo gives us full details.

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#182 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="super600"]

Lol! Nobody has read the updated rumor post.

StealthMonkey4

I had planned to, but the link only lead to the site's homepage and not he article.

http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=15351

This article explains exactly what the updatedrumor about the hardware says.

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#183 GunSmith1_basic
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nintendo wanted to make a developer friendly console, which is tough to do without a hard drive that would allow game installs. It also limits gameplay in many other ways like allowing large amounts of other data like in Littlebigplanet. Unless Nintendo has discovered an alternative to a hard drive I don't see them having a console without one
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#184 XenoNinja
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I've never used a hard-drive with my 360, so this doesn't disappoint me in the slightest.
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#185 Lost-Memory
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Seriously guys ? We don't even know if its a regular console. We don't know if its like a 360 in size or shape. We don't know JACK about nintendo's next console. All we KNOW is speculation and rumors.
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#186 crusadernm
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Wow that's just insane if true. Epic fail.

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#187 crusadernm
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So my phone currently has 16gig of memory. It will have more than Nintendo. jeez

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#189 painguy1
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I've only used 6GB on my xbox & thats only because I installed Banjo Kazooie due to the noise it made.

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#190 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]You know the Sonic Cycle? Perhaps someone should come up with a Nintendo Cycle.Timstuff
already broke the cycle last e3 when they has the best show of the three.

Best show, worst products. 3DS may have stolen the show, but now that it's out it's a disappointment. Also, even though they had a great sizzle reel, some of the games in it (particularly Metroid: Other M) did not live up to expectations.

out of the three major games they had for the wii (MoM, DKCR, and kirby), MoM was the only one that was a dud.

and most of the great games revealed for the 3ds aren't even out yet :|. It's a little early to call it a disappointment wouldn't you agree?

Going by that logic the original DS was a disappointment.

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#191 Timstuff
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Special thanks to Sandvichman.

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#192 Kenny789
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And this is confirmed right? Oh no wait it's a rumor.
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#193 savagetwinkie
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how do you decide that the device will have poor online based off the flash drive, the only thing this means is they can't make us do installs, and they cna't really sell lots of DLC, and no storing movies/music on the console, but if they add streaming why care?

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#194 93BlackHawk93
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Timstuff

Ha ha, and this cycle applies to? Wii? That's all?

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#195 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

Special thanks to Sandvichman.

93BlackHawk93

Ha ha, and this cycle applies to? Wii? That's all?

Gamecube, 3DS, and possibly the DS too, and if the rumors of Cafe having no hard drive are true, then possibly Cafe.

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#196 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

Special thanks to Sandvichman.

Timstuff

Ha ha, and this cycle applies to? Wii? That's all?

Gamecube, 3DS, and possibly the DS too, and if the rumors of Cafe having no hard drive are true, then possibly Cafe.

....the DS was a disappointment?

What the hell am I reading :|

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#197 93BlackHawk93
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[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

Special thanks to Sandvichman.

Timstuff

Ha ha, and this cycle applies to? Wii? That's all?

Gamecube, 3DS, and possibly the DS too, and if the rumors of Cafe having no hard drive are true, then possibly Cafe.

Gamecube was way stronger than the PS2 even with mini discs.

The 3DS is a HUGE improvement (with an amazing amount of strong 3rd party support announced) over the DS (which even with tons of shovelware, got tons of quality games), and that's just a fact

PS: Fail at putting Toon Link in there when WW was an awesome game

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#198 meetroid8
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Seriously who cares? If I wanted a real multiplayer experience I would play with friends, and if I wanted a real online experience I would play on a PC. I buy Nintendo console for Nintendo games.
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#199 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

Special thanks to Sandvichman.

93BlackHawk93

Ha ha, and this cycle applies to? Wii? That's all?

Lol this doesn't even apply to Wii, fans never claimed true revolution would start next gen, fans were pleased with this console.

Also, despite what some people are so desperate to deny, Wii indeed change gaming, may i remind you of Wii 2.0 and Wii 3.0 aka Move and Kinect.

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#200 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

Ha ha, and this cycle applies to? Wii? That's all?

Shinobishyguy

Gamecube, 3DS, and possibly the DS too, and if the rumors of Cafe having no hard drive are true, then possibly Cafe.

....the DS was a disappointment?

What the hell am I reading :|

It was, sorry to break it to ya' man.