my rant is long as it is, i don't want to add every little detail now would i? :Pyou forgot to mention "The system doesn't have Assassin Creed, MGS, Final fantasy, etc., yet, I don't even want it to be on the console...."
I here this more often as to the Kiddy argument as well. Cows and Lemming say the Wii dont have the game PS3 and 360 are getting, then they turn around and say they hope it don't go to the console, seriously, where the logic in that.....:|
Oh and they also mention the Wii can't handle those type of games because of it's power.I also say thats BS since downgradde and a few touch up's can do the trick...
tocool340
Wii Haters, STOP!!!!!!!!, this is getting pathetic!!!!!!!!!
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[QUOTE="flazzle"]but the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well. How does it add the hardcore consumer? By issuing old rehashes of old games with tacted on new motion sensing features? Forgive my french, but ***** that. I want new games, not old games played new ways. Look, develoeprs make games for the most common denominator. With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.Vandalvideo
Trauma Center, Wii Sports, Elebits, Wii Madden, Wario Ware to name a few all use the Wii Remote in such a way it cannot be recreated with the same enjoyment than on any other system. Yeah, you can change the controls to work on a 360 or PS3, but it would be like playing DDR or Guitar Hero using a regular controller: its just lame without the advance controls.
I never thought gamers would be so narrowminded and scared of change that they actually think the Wii Remote is more limiting, when deveopers think its more liberating.
Actually "enjoyment" is subjective and cannot be proven as a universal. You can not prove that these game mechanics would be any less fun on a standard controller. You cannot prve an opinion sir.You just prove my point of being so narrowminded and scared, Miss. You can actually say playing DDR or Guitar Hero with a standard controller is as much fun with the peripherials? Wii sports would be so lame with a regular controller. If you want to play the opinion game as defense, fine. You can say that about practically anything. But my proof is in the sales of DDR mats, Guitar Hero guitars, and Donkey Konga bongos compared to the actual software sales. Do you think anyone actually buys these games with no intention of the peripherial?
[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.Vandalvideobut the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well. How does it add the hardcore consumer? By issuing old rehashes of old games with tacted on new motion sensing features? Forgive my french, but ***** that. I want new games, not old games played new ways. Look, develoeprs make games for the most common denominator. With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.again, please give it more time, as i said in my post, you gave X360 time, you may give PS3 time, why not the Wii?
surely you remember how the DS started, need i remind you, it was really just a gemmick with the touch screen controls but people looked in the beyond, and they saw potential, thankfully the potential is being met, and me and some people see the same (and more) potential in the Wii, since Wii sports really added ALOT to the industry, this is the first casual game EVER to be accepted by hardcore consumers (just so we're clear, halo and GTA are much more hated here than WiiSports, so you get my point).
so anyway, look beyond than just what the Wii has to offer now, and one final note: "developers make games for the most common denmoinator", if you really believe that, then you aren't against the Wii, you are against every dominating console in the market. I extremely hate the "give it time" slogan. I don't want to give it time, I've seen what it represents. At the rate its going, I know what its going to become. Call it inference, call it an educated guess, but I've named the most common scenario. More casual consumer = more casual games. Easily seen. Whether or not the Wiimote has or had potential to create amazing games has yet to be seen. I was promised a revelution. What I was given was a rehashing.if that's the case then every system is horrible or average tops :|
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="flazzle"]but the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well. How does it add the hardcore consumer? By issuing old rehashes of old games with tacted on new motion sensing features? Forgive my french, but ***** that. I want new games, not old games played new ways. Look, develoeprs make games for the most common denominator. With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.flazzle
Trauma Center, Wii Sports, Elebits, Wii Madden, Wario Ware to name a few all use the Wii Remote in such a way it cannot be recreated with the same enjoyment than on any other system. Yeah, you can change the controls to work on a 360 or PS3, but it would be like playing DDR or Guitar Hero using a regular controller: its just lame without the advance controls.
I never thought gamers would be so narrowminded and scared of change that they actually think the Wii Remote is more limiting, when deveopers think its more liberating.
Actually "enjoyment" is subjective and cannot be proven as a universal. You can not prove that these game mechanics would be any less fun on a standard controller. You cannot prve an opinion sir.You just prove my point of being so narrowminded and scared, Miss. You can actually say playing DDR or Guitar Hero with a standard controller is as much fun with the peripherials? Wii sports would be so lame with a regular controller. If you want to play the opinion game as defense, fine. You can say that about practically anything. But my proof is in the sales of DDR mats, Guitar Hero guitars, and Donkey Konga bongos compared to the actual software sales. Do you think anyone actually buys these games with no intention of the peripherial?
So because I don't agree with your opinion I'm "narrowminded"? -_- You can't be serious dude? That sentence right there is the epiphany of narrowminded. Not accepting another's point of view? Look, you can NOT prove to me that the games would be any less fun on a standard controller. You can't do it. Period.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="flazzle"]but the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well. How does it add the hardcore consumer? By issuing old rehashes of old games with tacted on new motion sensing features? Forgive my french, but ***** that. I want new games, not old games played new ways. Look, develoeprs make games for the most common denominator. With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.flazzle
Trauma Center, Wii Sports, Elebits, Wii Madden, Wario Ware to name a few all use the Wii Remote in such a way it cannot be recreated with the same enjoyment than on any other system. Yeah, you can change the controls to work on a 360 or PS3, but it would be like playing DDR or Guitar Hero using a regular controller: its just lame without the advance controls.
I never thought gamers would be so narrowminded and scared of change that they actually think the Wii Remote is more limiting, when deveopers think its more liberating.
Actually "enjoyment" is subjective and cannot be proven as a universal. You can not prove that these game mechanics would be any less fun on a standard controller. You cannot prve an opinion sir.You just prove my point of being so narrowminded and scared, Miss. You can actually say playing DDR or Guitar Hero with a standard controller is as much fun with the peripherials? Wii sports would be so lame with a regular controller. If you want to play the opinion game as defense, fine. You can say that about practically anything. But my proof is in the sales of DDR mats, Guitar Hero guitars, and Donkey Konga bongos compared to the actual software sales. Do you think anyone actually buys these games with no intention of the peripherial?
BTW donkey kong: jungle beat can be played with a normal controller, yet no one does it that way.
[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.Vandalvideobut the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well. How does it add the hardcore consumer? By issuing old rehashes of old games with tacted on new motion sensing features? Forgive my french, but ***** that. I want new games, not old games played new ways. Look, develoeprs make games for the most common denominator. With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.again, please give it more time, as i said in my post, you gave X360 time, you may give PS3 time, why not the Wii?
surely you remember how the DS started, need i remind you, it was really just a gemmick with the touch screen controls but people looked in the beyond, and they saw potential, thankfully the potential is being met, and me and some people see the same (and more) potential in the Wii, since Wii sports really added ALOT to the industry, this is the first casual game EVER to be accepted by hardcore consumers (just so we're clear, halo and GTA are much more hated here than WiiSports, so you get my point).
so anyway, look beyond than just what the Wii has to offer now, and one final note: "developers make games for the most common denmoinator", if you really believe that, then you aren't against the Wii, you are against every dominating console in the market. I extremely hate the "give it time" slogan. I don't want to give it time, I've seen what it represents. At the rate its going, I know what its going to become. Call it inference, call it an educated guess, but I've named the most common scenario. More casual consumer = more casual games. Easily seen. Whether or not the Wiimote has or had potential to create amazing games has yet to be seen. I was promised a revelution. What I was given was a rehashing.
If you have a PS2, then you gave a console time. So whats the problem now? I guess you can't do the same for PS3 either. Almost the same way you couldn't for 360 as well since it didn't start so well with ports and stuff clogging up it's launch window...
tocool: We're a little past the "launch window" by now.VandalvideoSo, where's the proof that the casuals are ruling the Wii hardware and software sales? I'm still waiting.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]tocool: We're a little past the "launch window" by now.JandurinSo, where's the proof that the casuals are ruling the Wii hardware and software sales? I'm still waiting. As Bill Cosby would say, "The proof is in the pudding." Nintendo appealed to the casual consumer. Every mass media source has pushed the Wii. There are a HUGE number of casuals buying the Wii. What games do casual players buy? Casual games. More casual people = more casual sales = more casual games.
you forgot to mention "The system doesn't have Assassin Creed, MGS, Final fantasy, etc., yet, I don't even want it to be on the console...."
I here this more often as to the Kiddy argument as well. Cows and Lemming say the Wii dont have the game PS3 and 360 are getting, then they turn around and say they hope it don't go to the console, seriously, where the logic in that.....:|
Oh and they also mention the Wii can't handle those type of games because of it's power.I also say thats BS since downgradde and a few touch up's can do the trick...
tocool340
Hey, if the Wii could actually handle those titles without downgrading them to the point that they look awful, I would be all for it. Lets be reasonable, there really are significant differences in the Wii's hardware vs the other two. The simple fact of the matter is that the Wii is not technically capable of playing a game like AC or GTA.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]tocool: We're a little past the "launch window" by now.VandalvideoSo, where's the proof that the casuals are ruling the Wii hardware and software sales? I'm still waiting. As Bill Cosby would say, "The proof is in the pudding." Nintendo appealed to the casual consumer. Every mass media source has pushed the Wii. There are a HUGE number of casuals buying the Wii. What games do casual players buy? Casual games. More casual people = more casual sales = more casual games. You can't possibly tell me your proof is just that Nintendo... has been advertising?
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]tocool: We're a little past the "launch window" by now.VandalvideoSo, where's the proof that the casuals are ruling the Wii hardware and software sales? I'm still waiting. As Bill Cosby would say, "The proof is in the pudding." Nintendo appealed to the casual consumer. Every mass media source has pushed the Wii. There are a HUGE number of casuals buying the Wii. What games do casual players buy? Casual games. More casual people = more casual sales = more casual games.so in your opinion PC is casual? Xbox is casual? PS2 is casual? every system is casual then right?
also, in your opinion, DC is by far the most hardcore system out there eh? >_>
Am I going crazy or is this thread getting smaller by the minute?!? It was up to 10 pages and then it was 7. As I made this post, it shrank down to 5! WTF IS GOING ON?!?D_Znuhtz?????? :|please elaborate...
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]tocool: We're a little past the "launch window" by now.nintendo-4lifeSo, where's the proof that the casuals are ruling the Wii hardware and software sales? I'm still waiting. As Bill Cosby would say, "The proof is in the pudding." Nintendo appealed to the casual consumer. Every mass media source has pushed the Wii. There are a HUGE number of casuals buying the Wii. What games do casual players buy? Casual games. More casual people = more casual sales = more casual games.so in your opinion PC is casual? Xbox is casual? PS2 is casual? every system is casual then right?
also, in your opinion, DC is by far the most hardcore system out there eh? >_> How is stating an objective observation opinion pray-tell? Lookm its a fact that Nintendo has appealed to the casual. Its a fact casuals are buying the Wii in mass numbers....... From there its fair game to say that more casual consumer = more casual games. There is no OPINION envolved at all.
tocool: We're a little past the "launch window" by now.Vandalvideo
Not really. I consider it out of the launch window when about 1 year have passed since it was released. Games take time to make and what most developers have been doing is going to the vault of the past scrapped games and throwing them together while tacking on Wii control functions, and then releasing it hoping the Wii can save the half done games life, which has been prove to be a disaster of a plan. Now here we are, some developers have actually starting to build Wii games from scratch. Thats why there is a nice drought through out this year because developers are done trying to cash in on Wii's success. Thats why one must give it time for developers to start making games for the wii....
How is stating an objective observation opinion pray-tell? Lookm its a fact that Nintendo has appealed to the casual. Its a fact casuals are buying the Wii in mass numbers....... From there its fair game to say that more casual consumer = more casual games. There is no OPINION envolved at all.VandalvideoSo, you are inferring that it has casual appeal due to the fact that you can show Wii sports to casuals and non-gamers, and they will enjoy it?
That still doesn't mean that casuals are buying it in high numbers. It would make more sense to point out that it's the cheapest, and as such, more casuals are likely buying it.
More games = better for the system. More games = better chance that one of them is actually good, "casual" or not.
Do you only play "hardcore" games?
Regardless, Nintendo makes hardcore games. Are you implying that SMG and MP3 will be super-easy collections of fun little things for the average user to enjoy to its fullest?
[QUOTE="flazzle"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="flazzle"]but the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well. How does it add the hardcore consumer? By issuing old rehashes of old games with tacted on new motion sensing features? Forgive my french, but ***** that. I want new games, not old games played new ways. Look, develoeprs make games for the most common denominator. With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.Vandalvideo
Trauma Center, Wii Sports, Elebits, Wii Madden, Wario Ware to name a few all use the Wii Remote in such a way it cannot be recreated with the same enjoyment than on any other system. Yeah, you can change the controls to work on a 360 or PS3, but it would be like playing DDR or Guitar Hero using a regular controller: its just lame without the advance controls.
I never thought gamers would be so narrowminded and scared of change that they actually think the Wii Remote is more limiting, when deveopers think its more liberating.
Actually "enjoyment" is subjective and cannot be proven as a universal. You can not prove that these game mechanics would be any less fun on a standard controller. You cannot prve an opinion sir.You just prove my point of being so narrowminded and scared, Miss. You can actually say playing DDR or Guitar Hero with a standard controller is as much fun with the peripherials? Wii sports would be so lame with a regular controller. If you want to play the opinion game as defense, fine. You can say that about practically anything. But my proof is in the sales of DDR mats, Guitar Hero guitars, and Donkey Konga bongos compared to the actual software sales. Do you think anyone actually buys these games with no intention of the peripherial?
So because I don't agree with your opinion I'm "narrowminded"? -_- You can't be serious dude? That sentence right there is the epiphany of narrowminded. Not accepting another's point of view? Look, you can NOT prove to me that the games would be any less fun on a standard controller. You can't do it. Period.Good job at dodging all my points and duck-and-covering behind PROVING opinion, Dude. BTW, do you even know the definition of 'epiphany'?
BTW, if you dont think DDR mats and Guitar Hero Guitars dont make their respective games more fun, then you must believe they would have sold the same amount of units. Is that what you think?
When did you get your Wii?
(awaiting the response, 'I don't own a Wii but I played it....')
[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]tocool: We're a little past the "launch window" by now.VandalvideoSo, where's the proof that the casuals are ruling the Wii hardware and software sales? I'm still waiting. As Bill Cosby would say, "The proof is in the pudding." Nintendo appealed to the casual consumer. Every mass media source has pushed the Wii. There are a HUGE number of casuals buying the Wii. What games do casual players buy? Casual games. More casual people = more casual sales = more casual games.so in your opinion PC is casual? Xbox is casual? PS2 is casual? every system is casual then right?
also, in your opinion, DC is by far the most hardcore system out there eh? >_> How is stating an objective observation opinion pray-tell? Lookm its a fact that Nintendo has appealed to the casual. Its a fact casuals are buying the Wii in mass numbers....... From there its fair game to say that more casual consumer = more casual games. There is no OPINION envolved at all.actually there is, i say with better sales better software, the difference maybe a word, but it's true none the less.
and you haven't answered my question, do you believe that Xbox and PS2 are casual systems?
[QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"]Am I going crazy or is this thread getting smaller by the minute?!? It was up to 10 pages and then it was 7. As I made this post, it shrank down to 5! WTF IS GOING ON?!?nintendo-4life?????? :|please elaborate...
After my first post, this thread was up to 8 pages. Soon after that, it was up to 10. When I changed pages it was cut down to 7, when I posted it was down to 5, and after my post it was back to 7.
Someone is clearly going crazy on the editing, maybe taking pics out of their quotes or something. I just wanted to sound like a conspiracy theorist.
So, you are inferring that it has casual appeal due to the fact that you can show Wii sports to casuals and non-gamers, and they will enjoy it?[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]How is stating an objective observation opinion pray-tell? Lookm its a fact that Nintendo has appealed to the casual. Its a fact casuals are buying the Wii in mass numbers....... From there its fair game to say that more casual consumer = more casual games. There is no OPINION envolved at all.Jandurin
That still doesn't mean that casuals are buying it in high numbers. It would make more sense to point out that it's the cheapest, and as such, more casuals are likely buying it.
More games = better for the system. More games = better chance that one of them is actually good, "casual" or not.
Do you only play "hardcore" games?
Regardless, Nintendo makes hardcore games. Are you implying that SMG and MP3 will be super-easy collections of fun little things for the average user to enjoy to its fullest?
Gamesli ke MP and SMG are in the extreme minority when you look at the overall direction of the platform though. Most big games you see are casual titles.[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]tocool: We're a little past the "launch window" by now.VandalvideoSo, where's the proof that the casuals are ruling the Wii hardware and software sales? I'm still waiting. As Bill Cosby would say, "The proof is in the pudding." Nintendo appealed to the casual consumer. Every mass media source has pushed the Wii. There are a HUGE number of casuals buying the Wii. What games do casual players buy? Casual games. More casual people = more casual sales = more casual games.so in your opinion PC is casual? Xbox is casual? PS2 is casual? every system is casual then right?
also, in your opinion, DC is by far the most hardcore system out there eh? >_> How is stating an objective observation opinion pray-tell? Lookm its a fact that Nintendo has appealed to the casual. Its a fact casuals are buying the Wii in mass numbers....... From there its fair game to say that more casual consumer = more casual games. There is no OPINION envolved at all.
Its a fact hardcore gamers are buying Wii's in mass numbers as well. There is no OPINION 'envolved' at all here either.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="flazzle"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="flazzle"]but the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well. How does it add the hardcore consumer? By issuing old rehashes of old games with tacted on new motion sensing features? Forgive my french, but ***** that. I want new games, not old games played new ways. Look, develoeprs make games for the most common denominator. With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.flazzle
Trauma Center, Wii Sports, Elebits, Wii Madden, Wario Ware to name a few all use the Wii Remote in such a way it cannot be recreated with the same enjoyment than on any other system. Yeah, you can change the controls to work on a 360 or PS3, but it would be like playing DDR or Guitar Hero using a regular controller: its just lame without the advance controls.
I never thought gamers would be so narrowminded and scared of change that they actually think the Wii Remote is more limiting, when deveopers think its more liberating.
Actually "enjoyment" is subjective and cannot be proven as a universal. You can not prove that these game mechanics would be any less fun on a standard controller. You cannot prve an opinion sir.You just prove my point of being so narrowminded and scared, Miss. You can actually say playing DDR or Guitar Hero with a standard controller is as much fun with the peripherials? Wii sports would be so lame with a regular controller. If you want to play the opinion game as defense, fine. You can say that about practically anything. But my proof is in the sales of DDR mats, Guitar Hero guitars, and Donkey Konga bongos compared to the actual software sales. Do you think anyone actually buys these games with no intention of the peripherial?
So because I don't agree with your opinion I'm "narrowminded"? -_- You can't be serious dude? That sentence right there is the epiphany of narrowminded. Not accepting another's point of view? Look, you can NOT prove to me that the games would be any less fun on a standard controller. You can't do it. Period.Good job at dodging all my points and duck-and-covering behind PROVING opinion, Dude. BTW, do you even know the definition of 'epiphany'?
BTW, if you dont think DDR mats and Guitar Hero Guitars dont make their respective games more fun, then you must believe they would have sold the same amount of units. Is that what you think?
When did you get your Wii?
(awaiting the response, 'I don't own a Wii but I played it....')
I meant to say epitomy. I stood outside Sears Home Essentials on the release day and camped out for it. I was looking forward to the Wii. I was looking forward to an evolution in gaming. Thats not what I got. Fact remains you can't prove an opinion.all the systems get hate from immature fanboys etc...in some cases its funny to read how deluded they are its what makes SW great
oh and you dropped your dummy and rattle
I suppose it's ok to hate on the PS3 and 360 then? But not the Wii? I'm just making sure we are clear on things...
In 6 or so months of partaking in System Wars, I've never used the animal slang, but I feel for once I have to.
Sheep truly whine the most and are the most defensive over things. Sheesh...
?????? :|please elaborate...[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"]Am I going crazy or is this thread getting smaller by the minute?!? It was up to 10 pages and then it was 7. As I made this post, it shrank down to 5! WTF IS GOING ON?!?D_Znuhtz
After my first post, this thread was up to 8 pages. Soon after that, it was up to 10. When I changed pages it was cut down to 7, when I posted it was down to 5, and after my post it was back to 7.
Someone is clearly going crazy on the editing, maybe taking pics out of their quotes or something. I just wanted to sound like a conspiracy theorist.
lol ok that's wierd, because each page contains 10 posts (or 20 or 30 or how much you want it to be), it has nothing to do with pictures or anything like that, unless you changed your settings you've encountered a glitch prabably.if you read my other posts you'd understand :|I suppose it's ok to hate on the PS3 and 360 then? But not the Wii? I'm just making sure we are clear on things...
In 6 or so months of partaking in System Wars, I've never used the animal slang, but I feel for once I have to.
Sheep truly whine the most and are the most defensive over things. Sheesh...
SemiMaster
sheesh >_>
[QUOTE="tocool340"]you forgot to mention "The system doesn't have Assassin Creed, MGS, Final fantasy, etc., yet, I don't even want it to be on the console...."
I here this more often as to the Kiddy argument as well. Cows and Lemming say the Wii dont have the game PS3 and 360 are getting, then they turn around and say they hope it don't go to the console, seriously, where the logic in that.....:|
Oh and they also mention the Wii can't handle those type of games because of it's power.I also say thats BS since downgradde and a few touch up's can do the trick...
D_Znuhtz
Hey, if the Wii could actually handle those titles without downgrading them to the point that they look awful, I would be all for it. Lets be reasonable, there really are significant differences in the Wii's hardware vs the other two. The simple fact of the matter is that the Wii is not technically capable of playing a game like AC or GTA.
Games like Dead or Alive was not hugely advanced in graphics when going from the original Xbox to 360. So I would say there isn't a HUGE leap in graphics, on thing 360 and PS3 can do better is blooming, shadowing, clean up texture a little bit, have players sweat in sport games, and decrease jaggy count. But it's not the hugely significant from what last-gen can do. Some argue that 360 and PS3 can give you more and smarter AI. That should be based directly on the developers skill and decision. Game like Star Wars Rougue Sqradron had quite a bit of enemies on screen and still looked good doing it. AC and GTA can be made for the Wii depending on the developer skill. They might need to downgrade the game, but it still can be made for the Wii...
I meant to say epitomy. I stood outside Sears Home Essentials on the release day and camped out for it. I was looking forward to the Wii. I was looking forward to an evolution in gaming. Thats not what I got. Fact remains you can't prove an opinion.VandalVideo
No,but I can prove my point in sales. No kidding you can't prove an 'opinion'. It could be your opinion the sky is 'plaid' and you could just keep repeating 'Thats my opinion and you can't prove an opinion wrong'.
So what were you expecting exactly? Obviously you expecting something.
(FYI, 'epitomy' isn't a word. Epitome is though. Check out this link and read aloud the first sentence! Or is it your opinion you spelled it right and thus, is right because one cannot prove an opinion wrong. Link
?????? :|please elaborate...[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"]Am I going crazy or is this thread getting smaller by the minute?!? It was up to 10 pages and then it was 7. As I made this post, it shrank down to 5! WTF IS GOING ON?!?D_Znuhtz
After my first post, this thread was up to 8 pages. Soon after that, it was up to 10. When I changed pages it was cut down to 7, when I posted it was down to 5, and after my post it was back to 7.
Someone is clearly going crazy on the editing, maybe taking pics out of their quotes or something. I just wanted to sound like a conspiracy theorist.
Are you messing with you Prefs? I wouldn't know since I'm viewing 50 posts per page...
[QUOTE="SemiMaster"]if you read my other posts you'd understand :|I suppose it's ok to hate on the PS3 and 360 then? But not the Wii? I'm just making sure we are clear on things...
In 6 or so months of partaking in System Wars, I've never used the animal slang, but I feel for once I have to.
Sheep truly whine the most and are the most defensive over things. Sheesh...
nintendo-4life
sheesh >_>
There's nothing to read. People express their opinions against the Wii, whether favorably or unfavorably, both justified and not justified. The fact you are taking this so serious really says something. People make the same tired arguments against the PS3 and the 360 all the time, so get over it.
[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"]if you read my other posts you'd understand :|I suppose it's ok to hate on the PS3 and 360 then? But not the Wii? I'm just making sure we are clear on things...
In 6 or so months of partaking in System Wars, I've never used the animal slang, but I feel for once I have to.
Sheep truly whine the most and are the most defensive over things. Sheesh...
SemiMaster
sheesh >_>
There's nothing to read. People express their opinions against the Wii, whether favorably or unfavorably, both justified and not justified. The fact you are taking this so serious really says something. People make the same tired arguments against the PS3 and the 360 all the time, so get over it.
with Wii it became too much, no way in hell did anyone claim ownage on a 6.6.... wait haters did claim ownage that their system had a 6.6 title.BTW i'm not serious, angry or whatever, i write long posts all the time, but people here are acting really stupid per say,
[QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"]?????? :|please elaborate...[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"]Am I going crazy or is this thread getting smaller by the minute?!? It was up to 10 pages and then it was 7. As I made this post, it shrank down to 5! WTF IS GOING ON?!?nintendo-4life
After my first post, this thread was up to 8 pages. Soon after that, it was up to 10. When I changed pages it was cut down to 7, when I posted it was down to 5, and after my post it was back to 7.
Someone is clearly going crazy on the editing, maybe taking pics out of their quotes or something. I just wanted to sound like a conspiracy theorist.
lol ok that's wierd, because each page contains 10 posts (or 20 or 30 or how much you want it to be), it has nothing to do with pictures or anything like that, unless you changed your settings you've encountered a glitch prabably.Actually I think people deleted their posts or something, the first post I made went from page 7 to page 5. Creepy.
[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"]?????? :|please elaborate...[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"]Am I going crazy or is this thread getting smaller by the minute?!? It was up to 10 pages and then it was 7. As I made this post, it shrank down to 5! WTF IS GOING ON?!?D_Znuhtz
After my first post, this thread was up to 8 pages. Soon after that, it was up to 10. When I changed pages it was cut down to 7, when I posted it was down to 5, and after my post it was back to 7.
Someone is clearly going crazy on the editing, maybe taking pics out of their quotes or something. I just wanted to sound like a conspiracy theorist.
lol ok that's wierd, because each page contains 10 posts (or 20 or 30 or how much you want it to be), it has nothing to do with pictures or anything like that, unless you changed your settings you've encountered a glitch prabably.Actually I think people deleted their posts or something, the first post I made went from page 7 to page 5. Creepy.
oh yeah i forgot deleted posts nowdays REALLY get deleted, lol that may be it :P[QUOTE="tocool340"]my rant is long as it is, i don't want to add every little detail now would i? :Pyou forgot to mention "The system doesn't have Assassin Creed, MGS, Final fantasy, etc., yet, I don't even want it to be on the console...."
I here this more often as to the Kiddy argument as well. Cows and Lemming say the Wii dont have the game PS3 and 360 are getting, then they turn around and say they hope it don't go to the console, seriously, where the logic in that.....:|
Oh and they also mention the Wii can't handle those type of games because of it's power.I also say thats BS since downgradde and a few touch up's can do the trick...
nintendo-4life
But it's Important :cry:
The Wii needs to start producing good games that don't consists of casual mini-game garbage.
Besides MP3 and SMG, there isn't much I'm looking forward to on the Wii. On top of that, I don't believe Motion control is worth having horrible graphics and limited hardware.
the Wii is a next generation console..right?...
so..if i only own wii..and i want to change the wiimote experience!...and buy a game on the level of games like gears of war...i cant right?...i will say'' i cant because wii graphics are so old and i must buy 360 or ps3 ''...and that what doesnt make wii a primary console(imo)...how can a console in next generation and not on the level of graphic to the others?...and dont give me this fun party games with wiimote.......wii really missing something important this generation and YEA ..its the graphics.
I'm not hating on the Wii dude, ITS FACT that the Wii is overpriced.
At least with the other consoles you get HD gaming, hardcore games and real online services which is well worth the price of the console.
What do you get with the Wii? Mini-games and tech demos that aren't worth $50, N64 and near Gamecube graphics, and gamecube ports that i'd rather just use the wavebird.
I extremely hate the "give it time" slogan. I don't want to give it time, I've seen what it represents.When the 360 launched there was nothing but a bunch of PC ports and let down first party games with last gen graphics just on HD, did that stick? No. The Wii just launched a couple months ago and many games such as *NiGHTS, Project Treasure Island Z, Dewey's Adventure, Dance Dance Revolution: Hottest Party, and Boogie* are all in development. Not only that but we are already seeing new titles *such as the recently announced Snatcher2 and just today announced Soul Caliber Adventure* take the reigns of the system.
At the rate its going, I know what its going to become. Call it inference, call it an educated guess, but I've named the most common scenario. More casual consumer = more casual games. Easily seen.
Just like the DS has no hardcore games am I correct? And there have ALWAYS been casuals on consoles this is nothing new. Remember the PS2? I wouldn't call Madden, Cars, Need for Speed, or Lego Star Wars the quote unquote "hardcore games".
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4691&Itemid=34&limit=1&limitstart=14
Whether or not the Wiimote has or had potential to create amazing games has yet to be seen.
Wii Sports? Trauma Center? Zelda *the highest rated game of the year according to gamerankings/metacritic*?
I was promised a revelution. What I was given was a rehashing.
.....okay I'm seriously sick of people who think rehasing hasn't been around. Remember the early 360? Remember the early DS with nothing but tech demos and N64 ports? This happens with every system that sells well with no aware. Devs didn't know the Wii would sell so good. So now they're trying to cash in on it by porting games from last gen, while working on new games designed ground up just for the system*example EA may have published Godfather but they are also working on My Sims and Boogie* This whole "rehash" thing is just a phase just like it was for the DS and PSP and the 360. It will eventually wipe away? How you ask? There is no way rehases are going to sell if there's a quality advertised game out there. What sold better Prince of Persia: Rival Swords/Godfather/Far Cry: Vengence or Sonic and the Secret Rings/Trauma Center/ Super Paper Mario? Each rehases I listed have yet to break 60,000, while the original games have each broke 200,000 *except for Trauma Center which is around 130,000 sold. People want quality new games and that's what the developers are working on and will give them. I don't know how that's so hard to grasp we've seen this happen countless times before with the PSone, DS, 360.
Heck the PSone had the worst reviewed launch of all-time
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3155480
I think we both know how long that kept up for.
Just saying that these rehases is all the system will be is just sheer ignorance along with uneducation, espeically on a consoles marketing being "all about gameplay". Now I can't make you like the Wii because that is YOUR opinion, but for you to say that it's just going to stand and be a rehash console is probably one of the most wrong statements you can make about any console.
Vandalvideo
-the graphics are awful (honestly, they are pathetic)
-the games are rehashes that utilize the wiimote, which is nothing more than a gimmick at this point
-create a new franchise and I might care
-too much kiddy appeal
Anyone with a sadness sig should not be taken seriously.Shazenabwho are you to say i should not be taken seriously? :|
not only do i like the sound of the game, i find the artwork masterful, so why not make a sig out of it? :|
I'm not hating on the Wii dude, ITS FACT that the Wii is overpriced.
At least with the other consoles you get HD gaming, hardcore games and real online services which is well worth the price of the console.
What do you get with the Wii? Mini-games and tech demos that aren't worth $50, N64 and near Gamecube graphics, and gamecube ports that i'd rather just use the wavebird.
[/QUOTEas far as i'm concerened, if Wii is overpriced then so id PS3, that's my point.3 out of the 4 reasons you gave can be gone by time, which you gave for the 360 and PS3, why not the Wii?-the graphics are awful (honestly, they are pathetic)
-the games are rehashes that utilize the wiimote, which is nothing more than a gimmick at this point
-create a new franchise and I might care
-too much kiddy appeal
NavigatorsGhost
as far as i'm concerened, if Wii is overpriced then so id PS3, that's my point.nintendo-4life
The PS3 is in a totally different league then the Wii dude, The PS3 actually has newer hardware technology built into it. You can't even find stand alone blu-ray players cheaper than the PS3. Heck if anything the PS3 is underpriced.
[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]as far as i'm concerened, if Wii is overpriced then so id PS3, that's my point.monsternachoman
The PS3 is in a totally different league then the Wii dude, The PS3 actually has newer hardware technology built into it. You can't even find stand alone blu-ray players cheaper than the PS3. Heck if anything the PS3 is underpriced.
but blu ray is not why i buy game consoles and it's certainly nothing that i would have wanted to purchase in anyway, that's why i used the term as far as i'm concerened.Please Log In to post.
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