Wii Haters, STOP!!!!!!!!, this is getting pathetic!!!!!!!!!

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#201 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Nintendo: Refreshing is a qualitative adjective describing the properties of something. Refreshing itself is an OPINION. Refreshing: Presently fresh, different. I could easily say, "In my opinion, all of these games are mere rehashes of old games with tacted on new controls that do not add anything fresh or new to the actual game. It is not different whatsoever". A statement like that you can't really prove wrong. Refreshign itself is an OPINION. It is not a fact.SemiMaster

okay then, it;s an "opinion" but difference is a fact, and the Wiimote is different and that's a fact, no game plays like Wii sports is a fact, and the general gaming public is looking for something different, that too... is a fact, now again, give me one game that plays like Wii sports.

Ok, so the Wii is different. But does different necessarily mean its good? Thats a matter of perspective.

when a general public is desiring something different? then yes, it's good, at least better than rehashing and perfecting the tired material.

So its good to the people who wanted something different. What about the people who didn't? Then its not good.

you can't please everyone, but in this parcticular situation, majority rules, since this is the case, the Wiimote is superior because it's giving the general public what they want.

Superior how? You're still basing it off of opinion.

there is no opinion involved, it's complete fact.

Because some casuals buy up a cheap console with a different way to play over the standard controller input method?  

yes :|as far as i'm concerened, they are a part of this community :|
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#202 AgentVX
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I personally don't think anyone really hates the Wii.  I mean, how can you hate something that the kiddies adore.  It would be like hating Mickey Mouse.

The Wii is a cheap alternative to the 360 and PS3, when in fact graphic wise, it just don't compete.

The Wii control scheme is waaayyyy overrated, and only a few games really utilize the control well, as most other games seems just to be an add on, sort of the way the crappy PS3 controler is working out.

I solely contribute excellent Wii sales to 3 things.

First is that Nintendo fans have had to suck it up with the gamecube so long, that any new console they will buy in droves, especially if it has Mario and is dirt cheap!

Second is the price, there are more Walmart shoppers then people who pay extra for the extra's.

Thirdly, is HDTV adoption rates are still not the majority.  The Wii is riding the transition of SDTV to HDTV, and there are still alot more SDTV's out there then HDTV's.

To sum up, the Wii is sellling excellent because Nintendo fans are desperate for a new console because of the crappy gamecube, Nintendo fans are cheap, and since Nintendo fans are cheap, they most likely have a cheap SDTV. 

Thank you for your time.

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#203 super_mario_128
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="flazzle"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="flazzle"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="flazzle"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

nintendo4life, you mind replying to my post on the previous page? Thanks, most appreciated.

flazzle

If you want a reply, you should ask a question. Your post didn't ask any questions. So whats your question?

I made a debate and I was expecting a rebuttle to the debate. If I wanted to know what you think I would have sent you a PM.

Why would you send me a PM? Couldn't you have just posted here if you wanted to know what I think? Why do you like keeping stuff like that secret?

Why are you assuming I keep things secret?

Why did you rudely start an arguement with me?

Why am I wasting my time on you?

Well, why do you immediately resort to PM'ing? You brought that up. PM means 'Private Message' you know.

There is no argument I am starting. And I don't see the rude part. Thats a little over sensitive, don't you think?

Why are you wasting your time? Only you can answer that. Pretty silly to ask ME why YOU do the things YOU do. I have no control over what you do.

I think that answered all your questions.

I do know what PM'ing means, thanks for trying to help. I brought Pm'ing up because you forced what you thought upon when I didn't direct my post at you. PM'ing was brought up because I didn't really want to know what you thought in the first place, in whichcase I wouldn't have asked you in a place where other people can start to bash you for thinking something different.

Your post wasn't necessarily rude, but I would consider replying to a post not directed at you pretty rude.

And I was pretty much asking myself the last question.

I hope I cleared that up for you.

Well, first you said I 'rudely' started an argument with you, and now you say it wasn't necessarily rude. Which is it?

Maybe this is way you expected a reply to your post of flat facts with no questions. I assume you expected a reply to this, even though there was no questions.

Get used to people responding to your posts that you post in a FORUM. If you want to post something with no reply, then use PM'ing. Is that clear for you?

Can you read? After I said the POST wasn't rude, but the fact you replied even though it directed...(I've already explained this)

I expected a reply to my original post because it was a debate and in which a rebuttle is normally required (already cleard up). Again you assume to much (I've said that twice alrwady, it shows the quality of you arguements). If I wanted questions answered, FAQs are extremely helpful.

I'm sure I've been here longer than you so I know how a forum works, and that last part also contradicts your previous posts. (Besides, even in PMs' I expect reply of the person I SENT it to).

I'm done with you now, have fun trying understand the complexity of your ignorance.

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#204 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]lol, i asked for people to at least read my last paragraph and yet they can't do it :?
wow, what a low >_>Brown52

because after reading this

so anyway if you don't want to read the entire rant then at least read this, people, give Wii a chance, even if the titles don't entrestt you, you can at least give it a chance, after all this is what Wii is about isn't it? yes it doesn't have strong online plans yet, yes it doesn't have THAT wide of game options yet, but give it time, you gave it to the X360, you are giving it to the PS3, why not the Wii? because it's more successful than the PS3 and the X360 at the moment? if not then why are you being so hard on the Wii? even if Wii just has the good titles and doesn't have the better ones in your opinion, does it really make it a bad console?"if you can answer these questions then i would respect your opinion, but really what is it about Wii that ticks you off? is it because you're afraid that Wii will "destroy" the gaming world because of it's strong sales? if so then let me just say this, GTA was the highest selling title last gen, yet we still got our Final fantasies and ninja gaidens.

It still doesn't dispute the fact that after wii sports, the next best wii game is on GAMECUBE.  And the next best 5 games are all minigames with the wiimote.  What else do you have, a crappy snowboarding game that could be on the n64 or a sonic game where you don't even get to control how fast he runs?

You can argue about all the insignificancies you want, the wii has no good games and you are a fool to spend 250 on it. 

that's true, but that's still at the moment :?, i told you to give it time didn't i? and after all, the 3rd, fourth, fifth, and so on, are all Wii titles, why aren't you giving it a chance?, besides that GC title is one of the best titles in history, hell even if it's on PS3 it would have sold great.
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#205 super_mario_128
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Sonick54"]

[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]You're delirious, everyday there are 2-5 ps3 bash threads and nobody says **** about those, one gut makes a anti-wii thread and everybody craps they're pants. The wii isn't a gift from god you know, there are alot of people you just hate it, just like there are alot of people who hate Ps3...nintendo-4life

THere is a difference beteween not liking it, and trolling it to annoy people on the internet :| 

How about the guy who made the thread, 'So I returned my wii, and the reaction'. He wasn't trolling, yet many people couldn't accept it and flamed him.

so saying what were they thinking, or what's wrong wth these people isn't trolling?

Can you rephrase the question, it wasn't that clear. :)

lol sure, in his thread he said some stuff like "what were they thinking?" or "what's wrong with these people?" that gave a very negative attitude and impression, IMO he WAS trying to bash the people, that's why they bashed back.

Sorry for the really late reply. :)

The guy who made the thread wasn't soley trying to bash the guys. Ironically they bashed him in the instance they thought he was wrong in returning the wii. Just because they think its great doesn't mean everyone else shares that view. They didn't understand that and hence, bashed him. The people in that thread bashed the TC due to insecurity as they think as the cashiers do. Thanks for waiting for my reply :)

well now i apologize for my late response :P
anyway, even if his intentions weren't to bash the Wii or anything like that, his attidue was as if he meant to do so, i got that impression reading his thread.
anyway, i do realize that Wii fanboys are really bad too, but haters would go to illogical conversations just to win, that was the point of this thread :P

I noticed. Thanks.

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#206 nintendo-4life
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I personally don't think anyone really hates the Wii.  I mean, how can you hate something that the kiddies adore.  It would be like hating Mickey Mouse.

The Wii is a cheap alternative to the 360 and PS3, when in fact graphic wise, it just don't compete.

The Wii control scheme is waaayyyy overrated, and only a few games really utilize the control well, as most other games seems just to be an add on, sort of the way the crappy PS3 controler is working out.

I solely contribute excellent Wii sales to 3 things.

First is that Nintendo fans have had to suck it up with the gamecube so long, that any new console they will buy in droves, especially if it has Mario and is dirt cheap!

Second is the price, there are more Walmart shoppers then people who pay extra for the extra's.

Thirdly, is HDTV adoption rates are still not the majority.  The Wii is riding the transition of SDTV to HDTV, and there are still alot more SDTV's out there then HDTV's.

To sum up, the Wii is sellling excellent because Nintendo fans are desperate for a new console because of the crappy gamecube, Nintendo fans are cheap, and since Nintendo fans are cheap, they most likely have a cheap SDTV. 

Thank you for your time.

AgentVX
i have to comment on your third argument, because that's just not true, on the last holidays the big sales were Wii's and HDTVs, if what you say is true then the HDTV owner would be glad to own a PS3 instead.
also, the other points are rather true, but there are so many more points than just this, Wii isn't selling only because of this.
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#207 nintendo-4life
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This thread has been nothing but one big pissing contest.Jandurin
yeah, all i was trying to say was illogical arguments was not fun, it's frustrating, and what do i get? more bashes, dear god what can i do to get through to these people? :cry: :P
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#208 flazzle
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Can you read? After I said the POST wasn't rude, but the fact you replied even though it directed...(I've already explained this)

I expected a reply to my original post because it was a debate and in which a rebuttle is normally required (already cleard up). Again you assume to much (I've said that twice alrwady, it shows the quality of you arguements). If I wanted questions answered, FAQs are extremely helpful.

I'm sure I've been here longer than you so I know how a forum works, and that last part also contradicts your previous posts. (Besides, even in PMs' I expect reply of the person I SENT it to).

I'm done with you now, have fun trying understand the complexity of your ignorance.

super_mario_128

LOL 8)

So you have been here longer and thus you know how a forum works? Do you know there is more than this one forum on the web? What makes you think this is the only one? It's not a Gamespot invention! How could you actually think that?

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#209 flazzle
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]This thread has been nothing but one big pissing contest.nintendo-4life
yeah, all i was trying to say was illogical arguments was not fun, it's frustrating, and what do i get? more bashes, dear god what can i do to get through to these people? :cry: :P

I cannot stand illogical arguements either! Its definitly NOT FUN!