Wii U is dead (RIP), so who should Replace Nintendo?

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]System Wars is f*cking stupid. I never thought I'd see something that annoyed me more than the Vita doom and gloom, but man, this one escalates it to a new level entirely.nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I came in here expecting a link about how Nintendo was ceasing console production. Well, not really, but I was hoping for something.

Imagine my disappointment when all I found was more baseless System Wars stupidity.

Shinobi120

At least some messageboards like NeoGAF doesn't tolerate something like System Wars, or to tolerate someone constantly trolling on one platform. They'd be banned on the spot.

I came in here expecting a link about how Nintendo was ceasing console production. Well, not really, but I was hoping for something.

Imagine my disappointment when all I found was more baseless System Wars stupidity.

DarkLink77

I remember when SW had trolls that actually put in effort.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I came in here expecting a link about how Nintendo was ceasing console production. Well, not really, but I was hoping for something.

Imagine my disappointment when all I found was more baseless System Wars stupidity.

Shinobi120

At least some messageboards like NeoGAF doesn't tolerate something like System Wars, or to tolerate someone constantly trolling on one platform. They'd be banned on the spot.

Neogaf is crap. Feel free to leave and go there tho.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"][QUOTE="super600"]The problem with the WiiU is the marketing and the lack of games. Once those tow problems are fixed the console's hardware sales will pick up.Shinobi120

Both of those problems stem directly from incompetent management. Nintendo is immensely talented and creative (which makes it all the more frustrating), but I'm sorry, they are a TERRIBLY run company.

The thing that always amuses me about Nintendo apologists is their arguments always whittle down to, "just wait". "Just wait, once software is released it'll all go away and all will be swell....". "Just wait, once proper marketing hits....".

"Just wait, just wait".

Damn, how is this a valid defense? And then Iwata comes out during these waiting periods and apologizes profusely and asks people to understand over and over, and people fall in love with him and say, "well gee wiz, he's so humble, caring, and concerned, so therefor he's a great CEO".

I'm sorry, but no. He is taking us for pushovers and is using Nintendo's legacy to manipulate its fans so desperate for any bone they're thrown. Fast forward a bit, and the cycle repeats itself. Does Iwata believe that continual apologies will excuse all of this? Apparently so. Does anybody believe these droughts to be unavoidable? Some, unfortunately do.

I keep hearing the reason there's such a current drought of Wii U games is because Iwata pulled pretty much all developmental resources away from it to help hasten 3DS releases after the slow start. Now that it has some stability, resources have again been re-allocated to the Wii U in full force. Considering the decent amount of 3DS release, both current and future, and the current drought for the Wii U, this makes perfect sense.

What I think is happening is Nintendo is too fvcking cheap to invest its massive bankroll into studios for both platforms so as to be able to pump out games consistently at regular intervals, so they shift them back and forth and pull out the apology and please understand cards to placate everyone until the storm blows over. They know they have incredible IPs and diehard, longterm fans that will tolerate this sh!t, as they always can be counted upon to do. So why spend the extra money when a simple "I'm sorry" will appease all these gamers who accept it? Hell, not only accept, but DEFEND them?

I think these droughts are very intentional. They happen over and again, so they must be. Either that, or Nintendo is unable to get their sh!t together. One or the other, how can this be defended? Personally, I think Nintendo is leaning on the strength of its brand-name, legacy, and core fans to get away with murder when other companies would not be able to.

This. Nintendo needs to learn to get in touch with the whole gaming community.

We don't need a replacement. There's nothing to replace. Nothing of value would be lost if Nintendo left the console market.

We don't need a replacement. There's nothing to replace. Nothing of value would be lost if Nintendo left the console market.

burgeg

[QUOTE="burgeg"]

We don't need a replacement. There's nothing to replace. Nothing of value would be lost if Nintendo left the console market.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="super600"]The problem with the WiiU is the marketing and the lack of games. Once those tow problems are fixed the console's hardware sales will pick up.MirkoS77

Both of those problems stem directly from incompetent management. Nintendo is immensely talented and creative (which makes it all the more frustrating), but I'm sorry, they are a TERRIBLY run company.

The thing that always amuses me about Nintendo apologists is their arguments always whittle down to, "just wait". "Just wait, once software is released it'll all go away and all will be swell....". "Just wait, once proper marketing hits....".

"Just wait, just wait".

Damn, how is this a valid defense? And then Iwata comes out during these waiting periods and apologizes profusely and asks people to understand over and over, and people fall in love with him and say, "well gee wiz, he's so humble, caring, and concerned, so therefor he's a great CEO".

I'm sorry, but no. He is taking us for pushovers and is using Nintendo's legacy to manipulate its fans so desperate for any bone they're thrown. Fast forward a bit, and the cycle repeats itself. Does Iwata believe that continual apologies will excuse all of this? Apparently so. Does anybody believe these droughts to be unavoidable? Some, unfortunately do.

I keep hearing the reason there's such a current drought of Wii U games is because Iwata pulled pretty much all developmental resources away from it to help hasten 3DS releases after the slow start. Now that it has some stability, resources have again been re-allocated to the Wii U in full force. Considering the decent amount of 3DS release, both current and future, and the current drought for the Wii U, this makes perfect sense.

What I think is happening is Nintendo is too fvcking cheap to invest its massive bankroll into studios for both platforms so as to be able to pump out games consistently at regular intervals, so they shift them back and forth and pull out the apology and please understand cards to placate everyone until the storm blows over. They know they have incredible IPs and diehard, longterm fans that will tolerate this sh!t, as they always can be counted upon to do. So why spend the extra money when a simple "I'm sorry" will appease all these gamers who accept it? Hell, not only accept, but DEFEND them?

I think these droughts are very intentional. They happen over and again, so they must be. Either that, or Nintendo is unable to get their sh!t together. One or the other, how can this be defended? Personally, I think Nintendo is leaning on the strength of its brand-name, legacy, and core fans to get away with murder when other companies would not be able to.

I find it annoying to how they can't balance development for the WiiU and 3DS.I haven't bought the WiiU yet because of it's price,, and a bunch of other reasons including games.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="burgeg"]

We don't need a replacement. There's nothing to replace. Nothing of value would be lost if Nintendo left the console market.

burgeg

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="burgeg"]

We don't need a replacement. There's nothing to replace. Nothing of value would be lost if Nintendo left the console market.

burgeg

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]The thing that always amuses me about Nintendo apologists is their arguments always whittle down to, "just wait". "Just wait, once software is released it'll all go away and all will be swell....". "Just wait, once proper marketing hits....".

"Just wait, just wait".

Damn, how is this a valid defense? And then Iwata comes out during these waiting periods and apologizes profusely and asks people to understand over and over, and people fall in love with him and say, "well gee wiz, he's so humble, caring, and concerned, so therefor he's a great CEO".

I'm sorry, but no. He is taking us for pushovers and is using Nintendo's legacy to manipulate its fans so desperate for any bone they're thrown. Fast forward a bit, and the cycle repeats itself. Does Iwata believe that continual apologies will excuse all of this? Apparently so. Does anybody believe these droughts to be unavoidable? Some, unfortunately do.

What I think is happening is Nintendo is too fvcking cheap to invest its massive bankroll into studios for both platforms so as to be able to pump out games consistently at regular intervals, so they shift them back and forth and pull out the apology and please understand cards to placate everyone until the storm blows over. They know they have incredible IPs and diehard, longterm fans that will tolerate this sh!t, as they always can be counted upon to do. So why spend the extra money when a simple "I'm sorry" will appease all these gamers who accept it? Hell, not only accept, but DEFEND them?

I think these droughts are very intentional. They happen over and again, so they must be. Either that, or Nintendo is unable to get their sh!t together. One or the other, how can this be defended? Personally, I think Nintendo is leaning on the strength of its brand-name, legacy, and core fans to get away with murder when other companies would not be able to.YoYo278

System Wars is f*cking stupid. I never thought I'd see something that annoyed me more than the Vita doom and gloom, but man, this one escalates it to a new level entirely.charizard1605

SNK  Next Gen NeoGeo!!!

SNK  Next Gen NeoGeo!!!

nini200

SNK failed to make the jump to 3D, so a next-gen Neo Geo is highly unlikely.

On the other hand, Sega is still manufacturing state-of-the-art 3D arcade hardware to this day, so they certainly have the experience to make a next-gen console, but that's also unlikely unless there's any profit to be made.

I'd bet money that if Yamauchi came back as CEO, Nintendo would change much more for the better. Actions are not all that matter, the attitude is hugely important, if not more so. MirkoS77

Because Yamauchi was insanely popular with third party developers and the N64 + GC both had insane sales.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]I'd bet money that if Yamauchi came back as CEO, Nintendo would change much more for the better. Actions are not all that matter, the attitude is hugely important, if not more so. ChubbyGuy40

Because Yamauchi was insanely popular with third party developers and the N64 + GC both had insane sales.

While you're obviously being sarcastic, you're actually half-right: Yamauchi was insanely popular with third-party developers... in the NES & SNES eras.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]I'd bet money that if Yamauchi came back as CEO, Nintendo would change much more for the better. Actions are not all that matter, the attitude is hugely important, if not more so. ChubbyGuy40

Because Yamauchi was insanely popular with third party developers and the N64 + GC both had insane sales.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]I'd bet money that if Yamauchi came back as CEO, Nintendo would change much more for the better. Actions are not all that matter, the attitude is hugely important, if not more so. MirkoS77

Because Yamauchi was insanely popular with third party developers and the N64 + GC both had insane sales.

I don't think its going anywhere anytime soon lol.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Because Yamauchi was insanely popular with third party developers and the N64 + GC both had insane sales.

nintendoboy16

I wonder what the PS4 doom threads will be like.

Not even a year ago, Sony was going out of business for good and there was no way in hell they would be launching a new console... according to System Wars experts, of course.

sega

I wonder what the PS4 doom threads will be like.

Not even a year ago, Sony was going out of business for good and there was no way in hell they would be launching a new console... according to System Wars experts, of course.

ConanTheStoner

IU can't wait for the doom threads for the other two if they fail.

you have to be a total idiot to think that nintendo is going to die anytime soon. helwa1988

We dont take kindly to logic round these here parts.

[QUOTE="helwa1988"]you have to be a total idiot to think that nintendo is going to die anytime soon. ConanTheStoner

We dont take kindly to logic round these here parts.