WiiFit: The Most Important Game Ever Made

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#1 PBSnipes
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2007/7/wii-fit.jpg

"Surely you can't be serious?"

Oh I am, and don't call me Shirley.

Growing the Medium

Today the majority of games are nothing but "interactive movies". Sure they're fun, but they don't take advantage of the unique medium that is gaming. There are some exceptions (for example, Fallout and Patapon), but most games are based around you projecting yourself into the game, rather than the game projecting itself onto you.

"Lolz, you think WiiFit is going to have a deep involving story?" you say. Not at all, but WiiFit adds a level of immersion not seen outside of "high-end" arcades or super-expensive set-ups (ie, Forza played on 4 monitors in a special racing rig). This immersion in and of itself won't be revolutionary, but its effect on the industry will. Developers are going to look at new ways of involving the player beyond QTE's (Quick Time Events) and minigames. We've seen some improvements made (Metroid Prime 3's motion controls for example) but WiiFit will cause developers to look outside the box.

Growing the Industry

The gaming industry is, despite itself, in rough shape. It doesn't know what the consumer wants, it doesn't know how to price its products and it sure as hell doesn't know how to create a sustainable business. How much longer does the industry expect us to shell out $60 every year for the latest incremental upgrade to Call of Duty or Madden? If the music industry can't survive selling $10-20 albums with only a couple of good songs, how the hell does the gaming industry expect to sell a similar product for 3-6 times as much?

That's where WiiFit comes in. It opens up a whole new market to the industry. WiiFit may not be the most exciting game you've ever heard of, but think of the benefits. It's a cash cow, and as such publishers are going to be able to capitalize on it, not just in terms of copycat games and extensions (something like "WiiYoga") but in terms of being able to subsidize other projects. It's a hell of a lot easier for Nintendo to green-light Metroid Dread or Pikmin 3 when they know WiiFit is a license to print money.

Growing the User Base

One of the biggest problems in gaming today is a lack of innovation. Outside of a select few developers the industry is just a bunch of copycats, who figure if they take Halo/Zelda/Mario, add X, remove Y and balance Z, they'll have a perfect game. Because WiiFit is a "gateway" game, it will inevitably bring new blood into the industry, and because this new blood won't have the same preconceived notion of what a "good" game is (it has to have a 150+ hour epic campaign!) they'll be able to create games us "old-school"/"hardcore" could never dream of. Even if those "WiiFit Generation" developers create WiiFit-esque games, they'll still influence the "old-school" developers, and as a result the industry will not doubt be improved.

Growing the Wii

That's what she said!

While I'm sure this is going to ruffle some feathers, the Wii is the most important console ever made. As I said in my previous posts, the majority of the decision makers in the industry don't know what the **** they're doing; they (apparently) think that they can release incremental updates and copycat games day-in, day-out. In an industry where games like CoD 4 are praised by critics and "hardcore" gamers for being nothing more than incremental updates we need someone to force innovation, which is what Nintendo has done with the Wii.

Now I'm not saying the Wii is the best console (I prefer the 360, and I think the PS3 has the potential to be the best), however the paradigm shift it has helped create is more important than any feature you can find on a PS3 or a 360. Nintendo is showing how innovation can improve gaming -- how you don't need the best graphics, or the best CPU, or the most features to be successful. As a result the industry is going to adapt and move away from the "turn it up to 11" school of design. Rather than just adding more to their products, developers, publishers and manufacturers are going to attempt to make the "Wii 2.0". That doesn't necessarily mean they're going in introduce a new console at $250 with a wacky new controller, or a game called "Excellent Marco Universe", but it is going to force them to think outside of the box. Rather than just adding more powerful hardware, Sony and MS will likely try to create something new and innovative. Rather than sticking to the status quo, developers are going to try and find new ways for people to play their games. Rather than funding the same-old games, publishers are going to start taking chances on innovative new games.

What it all Means

Essentially, WiiFit is the exclamation point on the start of a new era of gaming. It is to the gaming industry what Napster was to the music industry. It may not be the best product, and it'll probably cause some short-term pain, but in the long run it will force the industry to adapt to the ever-changing world. It will force developers, publishers and manufacturers to change, innovate and evolve. WiiFit is the catalyst for change in an industry that desperately needs it.

Welcome to the new era.

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I'm sorry but the most important game will be Metal Gear Solid 4.

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*Facepalm* Oh brother... Sorry for this sort of remark, but it's sincerly how I feel. I'd rather have some seriously weird artistic game like nothing that has ever been tried, that could even totally suck but would open doors to something other then this, Wii fit is not where I want the industry to go =|
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#4 subyman
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Uhm, I think you are giving Wiifit waaaay too much credit. This is not a new idea. Remember the track and field game on the NES that had the running pad? That was 20 years ago. This will expand the gaming market, but it won't benefit us true gamers in anyway. If anything, it will move the market toward making more casual, easy games so that they are more accessable to the "new age" gamer.

Maybe the new age is coming, but it will leave a lot of us real gamers behind.

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I will be playing what could be the most important game ever made in about 11 hours.
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ill take mgs4, cod4, gta and smg over this thanks...
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#7 Ontain
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just like wiisports was the most influential game of 2006. i think that Wiifit is indeed going to be one of the most influential games of 2008. regardless of if I or ppl on gaming forums like it.

though i wouldn't say most important EVER.

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WiiFit is the most important because u need to exercises, not just sitting for 10 hours playing shooting ppl and get kill.
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Wii Fit isn't the most important game of this generation (IMO, WiiSports is), but I think it could be a watershed. The fact that it's a retail game, as opposed to a bundled game like WiiSports, could be what makes the difference and allow it to accomplish more than what WiiSports did.

Then again, I think if this had come from someone other than Nintendo and had been a success, it would be a more significant milestone.

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Uhm, I think you are giving Wiifit waaaay too much credit. This is not a new idea. Remember the track and field game on the NES that had the running pad? That was 20 years ago. This will expand the gaming market, but it won't benefit us true gamers in anyway. If anything, it will move the market toward making more casual, easy games so that they are more accessable to the "new age" gamer.

Maybe the new age is coming, but it will leave a lot of us real gamers behind.

subyman

The real gamers that buy incremental updates? The real gamers that spend $12/month just for the privlege of being able to play WoW? The real gamers that buy sequel after sequel yet neglect new, innovative games like Okami? If those are the people who will be left behind, I say good riddance, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Like I said there will probably be some short term pain while the industry adapts, but in the end WiiFit will create a paradigm shift that will change gaming for the better.

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Pong was the most important game ever made.
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[QUOTE="subyman"]

Uhm, I think you are giving Wiifit waaaay too much credit. This is not a new idea. Remember the track and field game on the NES that had the running pad? That was 20 years ago. This will expand the gaming market, but it won't benefit us true gamers in anyway. If anything, it will move the market toward making more casual, easy games so that they are more accessable to the "new age" gamer.

Maybe the new age is coming, but it will leave a lot of us real gamers behind.

PBSnipes

The real gamers that buy incremental updates? The real gamers that spend $12/month just for the privlege of being able to play WoW? The real gamers that buy sequel after sequel yet neglect new, innovative games like Okami? If those are the people who will be left behind, I say good riddance, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Like I said there will probably be some short term pain while the industry adapts, but in the end WiiFit will create a paradigm shift that will change gaming for the better.

sequels =/ rehash, sequels can be innovative aswell. smg for example.

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[QUOTE="subyman"]

Uhm, I think you are giving Wiifit waaaay too much credit. This is not a new idea. Remember the track and field game on the NES that had the running pad? That was 20 years ago. This will expand the gaming market, but it won't benefit us true gamers in anyway. If anything, it will move the market toward making more casual, easy games so that they are more accessable to the "new age" gamer.

Maybe the new age is coming, but it will leave a lot of us real gamers behind.

PBSnipes

The real gamers that buy incremental updates? The real gamers that spend $12/month just for the privlege of being able to play WoW? The real gamers that buy sequel after sequel yet neglect new, innovative games like Okami? If those are the people who will be left behind, I say good riddance, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Like I said there will probably be some short term pain while the industry adapts, but in the end WiiFit will create a paradigm shift that will change gaming for the better.

lol wut? You think the people that are going to be mass purchasing wii fit are the ones that would buy okami? Dude your seriously not seeing things clearly.

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I'm sorry but the most important game will be Metal Gear Solid 4.

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I can see where the TC is coming from, but you , i have no idea

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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="subyman"]

Uhm, I think you are giving Wiifit waaaay too much credit. This is not a new idea. Remember the track and field game on the NES that had the running pad? That was 20 years ago. This will expand the gaming market, but it won't benefit us true gamers in anyway. If anything, it will move the market toward making more casual, easy games so that they are more accessable to the "new age" gamer.

Maybe the new age is coming, but it will leave a lot of us real gamers behind.

Arjdagr8

The real gamers that buy incremental updates? The real gamers that spend $12/month just for the privlege of being able to play WoW? The real gamers that buy sequel after sequel yet neglect new, innovative games like Okami? If those are the people who will be left behind, I say good riddance, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Like I said there will probably be some short term pain while the industry adapts, but in the end WiiFit will create a paradigm shift that will change gaming for the better.

sequels =/ rehash, sequels can be innovative aswell. smg for example.

They CAN be, but they usually aren't.

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So when I purchased Eye Toy Kinetic I purchased the greatest game ever made.

Cause..its pretty much the same damn game but with a different peripheral.

And it was barely played..and now collects dust. The future of every Wiifit purchased in its lifetime. One of those "what was I thinking it seemed cool at the time" purchases.

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it's important because if things like this succeed then video games will become such a diverse product that they cannot be called video games anymore, but some kind of electronic-ization of normal life

(plus i dont feel things like this will effect video games we enjoy at all)

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So when I purchased Eye Toy Kinetic I purchased the greatest game ever made.

Cause..its pretty much the same damn game but with a different peripheral.

And it was barely played..and now collects dust. The future of every Wiifit purchased in its lifetime. One of those "what was I thinking it seemed cool at the time" purchases.

Bread_or_Decide

Eye Toy Kinetic wasn't popular.

Originality needs to be paired with success to breed innovation.

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ill take mgs4, cod4, gta and smg over this thanks...Arjdagr8

You know I am truly disgusted with anyone defending this crap and dares to call themself a gamer. I cannot fathom anyone getting excited over this game. Sure it'll be a trend for the mainstream sheep who watch day time soaps and American Idol. But gamers should know better.

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[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]ill take mgs4, cod4, gta and smg over this thanks...Bread_or_Decide

You know I am truly disgusted with anyone defending this crap and dares to call themself a gamer. I cannot fathom anyone getting excited over this game. Sure it'll be a trend for the mainstream sheep who watch day time soaps and American Idol. But gamers should know better.

I'm with you on that one lol.

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[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="subyman"]

Uhm, I think you are giving Wiifit waaaay too much credit. This is not a new idea. Remember the track and field game on the NES that had the running pad? That was 20 years ago. This will expand the gaming market, but it won't benefit us true gamers in anyway. If anything, it will move the market toward making more casual, easy games so that they are more accessable to the "new age" gamer.

Maybe the new age is coming, but it will leave a lot of us real gamers behind.

mjarantilla

The real gamers that buy incremental updates? The real gamers that spend $12/month just for the privlege of being able to play WoW? The real gamers that buy sequel after sequel yet neglect new, innovative games like Okami? If those are the people who will be left behind, I say good riddance, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Like I said there will probably be some short term pain while the industry adapts, but in the end WiiFit will create a paradigm shift that will change gaming for the better.

sequels =/ rehash, sequels can be innovative aswell. smg for example.

They CAN be, but they usually aren't.

i think mgs4, gta4, smg did some innovative things. then again innovative =/ good all the time

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[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]ill take mgs4, cod4, gta and smg over this thanks...Bread_or_Decide

You know I am truly disgusted with anyone defending this crap and dares to call themself a gamer. I cannot fathom anyone getting excited over this game. Sure it'll be a trend for the mainstream sheep who watch day time soaps and American Idol. But gamers should know better.

lol yeah.

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="subyman"]

Uhm, I think you are giving Wiifit waaaay too much credit. This is not a new idea. Remember the track and field game on the NES that had the running pad? That was 20 years ago. This will expand the gaming market, but it won't benefit us true gamers in anyway. If anything, it will move the market toward making more casual, easy games so that they are more accessable to the "new age" gamer.

Maybe the new age is coming, but it will leave a lot of us real gamers behind.

Arjdagr8

The real gamers that buy incremental updates? The real gamers that spend $12/month just for the privlege of being able to play WoW? The real gamers that buy sequel after sequel yet neglect new, innovative games like Okami? If those are the people who will be left behind, I say good riddance, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Like I said there will probably be some short term pain while the industry adapts, but in the end WiiFit will create a paradigm shift that will change gaming for the better.

sequels =/ rehash, sequels can be innovative aswell. smg for example.

They CAN be, but they usually aren't.

i think mgs4, gta4, smg did some innovative things. then again innovative =/ good all the time

We haven't even played MGS4 yet, GTA4 appears to be purely refinement (better shooting system, bigger scale, better story) rather than actual innovation, and SMG was made by the same people making WiiFit.

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[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]ill take mgs4, cod4, gta and smg over this thanks...Bread_or_Decide

You know I am truly disgusted with anyone defending this crap and dares to call themself a gamer. I cannot fathom anyone getting excited over this game. Sure it'll be a trend for the mainstream sheep who watch day time soaps and American Idol. But gamers should know better.

Watch who you call "sheep." Gamers tend to be far more subservient to popular, commercial trends. That's why the vast, VAST majority of games, even the most critically acclaimed ones, are little better than cheap action movies in theme.

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I actually really agree with most of this thread. I don't think it's the most important ever made though that would probably go to Super Mario Bros on the NES. It is an extreemely important game though and I'm really excited about it.
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If you want exercise, put on some shoes and go jogging.
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I personaly don't give a damn if the industry grows if it means moving towards this bullcrap.
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Uhm, I think you are giving Wiifit waaaay too much credit. This is not a new idea. Remember the track and field game on the NES that had the running pad? That was 20 years ago. This will expand the gaming market, but it won't benefit us true gamers in anyway. If anything, it will move the market toward making more casual, easy games so that they are more accessable to the "new age" gamer.

Maybe the new age is coming, but it will leave a lot of us real gamers behind.

subyman

And how many people purchased or desired this track and field game compared to how many are purchasing games like Guitar Hero, DDR, WiiFit, etc.?

Welcome to the future of gaming -- I don't think you people are being open enough about this.

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If you want exercise, put on some shoes and go jogging.fixer293

If you want to kill people like in COD4, go to your local recruiter and join the military.

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If you want exercise, put on some shoes and go jogging.fixer293

People will be more interested in the fitness tracking tools than the fitness exercises itself. I mean, an uber-accurate weight scale that tells you your BMI and tracks your progress and milestones over weeks? For anyone but a gamer, I think that's worth the $90.

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[QUOTE="fixer293"]If you want exercise, put on some shoes and go jogging.Deiuos

If you want to kill people like in COD4, go to your local recruiter and join the military.

Read my profile boss, I was already enlisted.

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[QUOTE="Deiuos"]

[QUOTE="fixer293"]If you want exercise, put on some shoes and go jogging.fixer293

If you want to kill people like in COD4, go to your local recruiter and join the military.

Read my profile boss, I was already enlisted.

USN Medical Corps =/= Marine Force Recon/British SAS :P

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[QUOTE="fixer293"]If you want exercise, put on some shoes and go jogging.mjarantilla

People will be more interested in the fitness tracking tools than the fitness exercises itself. I mean, an uber-accurate weight scale that tells you your BMI and tracks your progress and milestones over weeks? For anyone but a gamer, I think that's worth the $90.

No, its a game that makes it's user feel like they are exercising, but they are just playing a game.

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[QUOTE="Deiuos"]

[QUOTE="fixer293"]If you want exercise, put on some shoes and go jogging.fixer293

If you want to kill people like in COD4, go to your local recruiter and join the military.

Read my profile boss, I was already enlisted.

LOL, it was hypothetical! Damn man, I'm enlisted as well. Just twisting your logic. :P

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I hope while some old people are playing wiifit they break his/her hip and sue nintendo. that should stop them from making crap like this.

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USN Medical Corps =/= Marine Force Recon/British SAS :P

Corpsman with marines have to run with full medical gear, and hike with full pack plus medical gear.

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[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]ill take mgs4, cod4, gta and smg over this thanks...Bread_or_Decide

You know I am truly disgusted with anyone defending this crap and dares to call themself a gamer. I cannot fathom anyone getting excited over this game. Sure it'll be a trend for the mainstream sheep who watch day time soaps and American Idol. But gamers should know better.

what's wrong with the diversification of gaming. I have no interest in wiifit, but I still want gaming to become as mainstream as movies. Gaming will never be as truly popular as things like movies and tv, with movie and tv budgets, for as long leaders in the industry act like you're acting now-------------ELITIST! That's what it is too. If you dont like the game then dont buy it, big deal.

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[QUOTE="fixer293"]If you want exercise, put on some shoes and go jogging.mjarantilla

People will be more interested in the fitness tracking tools than the fitness exercises itself. I mean, an uber-accurate weight scale that tells you your BMI and tracks your progress and milestones over weeks? For anyone but a gamer, I think that's worth the $90.

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="fixer293"]If you want exercise, put on some shoes and go jogging.Eddie-Vedder

People will be more interested in the fitness tracking tools than the fitness exercises itself. I mean, an uber-accurate weight scale that tells you your BMI and tracks your progress and milestones over weeks? For anyone but a gamer, I think that's worth the $90.

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wrooooooooooooong, It's a game not excercise

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#40 Firelore29
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If you want exercise, put on some shoes and go jogging.fixer293

You know I think you have to be over 25 or so to truely appreciate the genious of this game. For me I have a family and I know that I will have my whole family playing on this game. It's easily approchable, fun, and gets you in shape.

Why can't I enjoy video games and get in shape at the same time?

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I think WiiFit is important in the sense that it is a great example of everything that is WRONG with the gaming industry today, and if gaming in the next few years consists of mindless minigames and expensive peripherals then we will have WiiFit and people like the TC to blame for buying into it.
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USN Medical Corps =/= Marine Force Recon/British SAS :P

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Corpsman with marines have to run with full medical gear, and hike with full pack plus medical gear.

Yeah, but Deiuos was talking about shooting people and raiding houses and rappelling off buildings and fast-roping from choppers. :P

Never mind that COD4 is a completely inaccurate depiction of the military, but w/e, that's beside the point. :P

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Wiifit is a overpriced weight scale, that does not equal actual excercise and shame on anyone who thinks otherwise, if people want exercise, turn off the wii, put on some shoes and run. People who think "bu.... bu... it is exercise."No it isn't, it's a game. Take the 90 bucks and buy some weights or a treadmill.
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#44 Deiuos
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="fixer293"]If you want exercise, put on some shoes and go jogging.fixer293

People will be more interested in the fitness tracking tools than the fitness exercises itself. I mean, an uber-accurate weight scale that tells you your BMI and tracks your progress and milestones over weeks? For anyone but a gamer, I think that's worth the $90.

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wrooooooooooooong, It's a game not excercise

Are you serious, or are you just trying to play hard? Games can obviously become exercise.

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Yeah, but Deiuos was talking about shooting people and raiding houses and rappelling off buildings and fast-roping from choppers. :P

Never mind that COD4 is a completely inaccurate depiction of the military, but w/e, that's beside the point. :P

What all you listed, I have done, the games prettty accurate from my point of view.

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Are you serious, or are you just trying to play hard? Games can obviously become exercise.

No, they can't, unless it's virtual reality, which wiifit is not.

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Yeah, but Deiuos was talking about shooting people and raiding houses and rappelling off buildings and fast-roping from choppers. :P

Never mind that COD4 is a completely inaccurate depiction of the military, but w/e, that's beside the point. :P

fixer293

What all you listed, I have done, the games prettty accurate from my point of view.

You've raided houses?

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#48 mjarantilla
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Wiifit is a overpriced weight scale, that does not equal actual excercise and shame on anyone who thinks otherwise, if people want exercise, turn off the wii, put on some shoes and run. People who think "bu.... bu... it is exercise."No it isn't, it's a game. Take the 90 bucks and buy some weights or a treadmill.fixer293

Still ignoring the fact that it comes with tracking tools, eh?

I'd like to see a weight scale that measures BMI and provides feedback on progress and milestones. The closest thing you can probably come up with is that Nike+ dongle that INACCURATELY measures how far and how long you run.

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[QUOTE="fixer293"]

Yeah, but Deiuos was talking about shooting people and raiding houses and rappelling off buildings and fast-roping from choppers. :P

Never mind that COD4 is a completely inaccurate depiction of the military, but w/e, that's beside the point. :P

Deiuos

What all you listed, I have done, the games prettty accurate from my point of view.

You've raided horses?

houses.

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#50 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="fixer293"]

What all you listed, I have done, the games prettty accurate from my point of view.

Deiuos

You've raided horses?

Now that's just wrong.