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#1 LiquidSnake1001
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Let's look at each consoles line up according to gamespot reviews.

360 : 32 AAA Titles

119 AA Titles

PS3 : 29 AAA Titles

86 AA Titles

Wii : 9 AAA Titles

57 AA games

My numbers might be a bit off but that just proves Wii only owners really struggle for games.

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#2 haziqonfire
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Wii has the most games that interest me out of the two consoles I own (Xbox360 and Wii). Scores are meaningless and considering games like GTAIV and the like which get 9.0+ scores are actually ... not that great. .. yeah. A lot of my favourite games this generation aren't even 9.0 scoring game's.
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#3 Miroku32
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I agree somewhat with you TC. There are alot of titles on the Wii that are awful but there are also great games on that console like SMG, MP3 and some others.
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#4 surrealnumber5
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where would the HD twins be without pc ports
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#5 Panosola
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I agree somewhat with you TC. There are alot of titles on the Wii that are awful but there are also great games on that console like SMG, MP3 and some others. Miroku32
I agree but the Wii have some very good games............. Metroid Prime 3,Mario Galaxy,Super Paper Mario,Zelda,Okami wii,Zack and Wiki,Super Smash bros Brawl,Wario Ware, Resident Evil 4 wii,Boom Blox,De blop,House of the Dead: Overkill,Madworld,Deadly Creatures,Conduit,New Super Mario Wii, Dead Space extraction,Murasama Demon Blade,Little king story,klonoa,No more Heroes,Wii sport Resort,A boy and his Blop,Wario Land:Shake Dimension,Rayman Raving Rabbits,Mario Party 8,Eledees,Big Brain Academy Wii, Trauma Center,Resident evil DC and UC,Worms: A space odity.
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#6 JLF1
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I wouldn't really call 9 AAA and 57 AA games terrible but whatever.

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Let's look at each consoles line up according to gamespot reviews.

360 : 32 AAA Titles

119 AA Titles

PS3 : 29 AAA Titles

86 AA Titles

Wii : 9 AAA Titles

57 AA games

My numbers might be a bit off but that just proves Wii only owners really struggle for games.

LiquidSnake1001

Oh noez, Wii owners only have 66 good games on their console! What on Earth do they with all their spare time? :shock:

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#8 racing1750
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I wouldn't call it's libary terrible, it has some great games, but the PS3 and 360 definitely win in AA and AAA games.
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#9 LegatoSkyheart
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those numbers say that the Wii actually has a Good Library.

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#10 HarlockJC
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What you show is that the other systems have more AA+ games. What you don't show is that the Wii's library is terrible.
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#11 gamedude234
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too bad the wii wins in AAAes and AAes.

where would the HD twins be without multiplats;)

don't get me wrong i love both of my consoles

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#12 Shielder7
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where would the HD twins be without pc ports surrealnumber5
What PC ports? Most multi plats are Ps3 and 360 only. Excluding Bioware most don't make it for the PC first to port it to the consoles.

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#13 trollop_scat
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The Wii line-up is indeed terrible... for people playing video games without parents looking over their shoulders. If I was still a kid my mom wouldn't let me play any of the games I consider good today except Warcraft 3 (sneaky sneaky Blizzard). So if I was still a kid I guess I'd think the Wii was cool. Sadly for me, Nintendo has completely abandoned the M-rated market and left my sorry old butt out in the cold *sniff*. In all honestly though at my age (31) I should have kids that should be getting just old enough to play the Wii so its actualy me who failed Nintendo :o

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#14 Shielder7
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those numbers say that the Wii actually has a Good Library.

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He is right he just doesn't do a good job of showing it. Most acceptable Wii games came out in 2007, 8 and have Mario in them, Nintendo is lazy but why shouldn't they be? If people were buying 3 year old games and shovelware more than high rated / high production games I 'd be lazy to why not? You don't work for something you get for free and sheep are giving it away.

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#15 nintendoboy16
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How about A games. I think those deserve a mention.
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#16 Mitazaki
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too bad I have more games for my wii than 360

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#17 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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That doesn't mean it's terrible at all.
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#18 calvinx6
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Let's look at each consoles line up according to gamespot reviews.

360 : 32 AAA Titles

119 AA Titles

PS3 : 29 AAA Titles

86 AA Titles

Wii : 9 AAA Titles

57 AA games

My numbers might be a bit off but that just proves Wii only owners really struggle for games.

LiquidSnake1001

Nice story.

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The thing that surprises me most about the Wii library's numbers is that their games only need to run at 30 FPS on a standard television. I hear M$ and Sony complain about high game production costs these days but still they manage to put out more games while selling less consoles. How does THAT make any sense!?

You'd figure the consoles selling less units and losing money on those units they sell would have less money to make games, yet the exact opposite is true. That's just weird...

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The thing that surprises me most about the Wii library's numbers is that their games only need to run at 30 FPS on a standard television. I hear M$ and Sony complain about high game production costs these days but still they manage to put out more games while selling less consoles. How does THAT make any sense!?

You'd figure the consoles selling less units and losing money on those units they sell would have less money to make games, yet the exact opposite is true. That's just weird...

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I dont understand - are you saying MS and Sony's output is more than Nintendo's? I would be willing to bet that the three companies are pretty comparable first party wise, with Sony and Nintendo fronting the pack. Besides, the other two companies have a lot of cash / products to fall back on. As for third parties, I bet there are an infinite higher amount of games on the Wii than on the others. Not good games, just software in general (which would back up the fact the Wii is cheap and easy to develop for).
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#21 InfinityMugen
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[QUOTE="LiquidSnake1001"]

Let's look at each consoles line up according to gamespot reviews.

360 : 32 AAA Titles

119 AA Titles

PS3 : 29 AAA Titles

86 AA Titles

Wii : 9 AAA Titles

57 AA games

My numbers might be a bit off but that just proves Wii only owners really struggle for games.

If you played games instead of scores, you'd know Wii has great titles to choose from.
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#22 chopperdave447
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wii's library= terrible COMPARED to the other systems. the wii's library by itsself, if it interests you is pretty good.
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#23 lundy86_4
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If I had so much time that I could play all those games, and be left wanting more, I may agree. As it stands, I don't have that much time, and I think that your statement = Terrible.

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#24 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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And we all know that AA and AAA games are the only ones worth mentioning. The leaves out 4 great games I can list of the top of my head that got A here: Muramasa, Deadly Creatures, Madworld and Sky Crawlers. Oh, and not to mention Wii Sports.

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too bad the wii wins in AAAes and AAes.

where would the HD twins be without multiplats;)

don't get me wrong i love both of my consoles

gamedude234

it doesn't win in AAAEs but it does in AAEs. this is, of course, only true if we're ignoring the pc.

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#26 Im_single
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Post the AAE and AAAE list, it's a lot more even then.
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#27 Sky-
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too bad the wii wins in AAAes and AAes.

where would the HD twins be without multiplats;)

don't get me wrong i love both of my consoles

gamedude234

Hakanakumono made a nice parody thread regarding this kind of thinking..(read the fine print)

It's true, look at the differences in lineups:

Wii:

New Super Mario Bros. Wii (AA)
Little King's Story (AA)
Punch Out (AA)
Bloom Blox Bash Party (AA)
A Boy and his blob (AA)
Dead Space Extraction (AA)
Dawn of Discovery (AA)
EA Sports Active (AA)
Excitebot (AA)

PS3:

Nothing

Fineprint: Only exclusives may apply. Sequels may not apply. Games with readily available English language Asian versions may not apply. Games starting with 'I' and ending with 'S' may not apply.

hakanakumono

My point? Overall library matters. Not counting multiplats when the Wii receives little to none of them is an arbitrary limitation.

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#28 Im_single
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[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

too bad the wii wins in AAAes and AAes.

where would the HD twins be without multiplats;)

don't get me wrong i love both of my consoles

Sky-

Hakanakumono made a nice parody thread regarding this kind of thinking..(read the fine print)

It's true, look at the differences in lineups:

Wii:

New Super Mario Bros. Wii (AA)
Little King's Story (AA)
Punch Out (AA)
Bloom Blox Bash Party (AA)
A Boy and his blob (AA)
Dead Space Extraction (AA)
Dawn of Discovery (AA)
EA Sports Active (AA)
Excitebot (AA)

PS3:

Nothing

Fineprint: Only exclusives may apply. Sequels may not apply. Games with readily available English language Asian versions may not apply. Games starting with 'I' and ending with 'S' may not apply.

hakanakumono

My point? Overall library matters. Not counting multiplats when the Wii receives little to none of them is an arbitrary limitation.

Exclusives rule SW, anybody whose been here for more than a couple of months can tell you that.

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where would the HD twins be without pc ports surrealnumber5
You mean like inFamous, Resistance, Killzone 2, Assassin's Creed, LittleBigPlanet, Halo, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, MGS, Alan Wake, GTA, Gran Turismo, Forza, Rare's games, and Final Fantasy? Which -- as we all know -- were all PC games before console games and never the other way around. Hell, even the original Mass Effect was on console before it was on PC. Frankly, that's like asking where would the Wii be without GameCube ports? Brawl and Twilight Princess -- two of the biggest "Wii games" -- were both obviously designed for the GameCube. How about the obvious PS2 and GCN ports? Okami, RE4, the REmakes? It's ridiculous. If you want to pretend like console games are mostly derived from PC originals, then at least they get current ports like Fallout 3 or Oblivion unlike the Wii which gets games which came out too late in the last generation.
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#30 Sky-
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Exclusives rule SW, anybody whose been here for more than a couple of months can tell you that.

Im_single

When some of the biggest and most critically acclaimed titles of this gen are on every console except the Wii, then it does become a bit of a problem for the console. It would be okay if the library consisted of amazing first party and third party like previous market leaders such as the PS2, but it doesn't. Please find me a legitimate reason why multiplats shouldn't count in this case besides "SW doesn't acknowledge it."

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#31 -supercharged-
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The wii has some good games but when compared to the PS3 and 360 it is horrible.

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#32 Pixel-Pirate
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Compared to the 360 and PS3 the Wii completely destroys them, to me.

It's all about preference.

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#33 Sky-
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Compared to the 360 and PS3 the Wii completely destroys them, to me.

It's all about preference.

Pixel-Pirate

If that is the way you personally feel, that is okay. In the context of System Wars, you need more solid criteria to define a good library (reviews from Metacritic/GameRankings).

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#34 Shielder7
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Compared to the 360 and PS3 the Wii completely destroys them, to me.

It's all about preference.

Pixel-Pirate
In SW opinions have no weight.
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#35 Im_single
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[QUOTE="Im_single"]

Exclusives rule SW, anybody whose been here for more than a couple of months can tell you that.

Sky-

When some of the biggest and most critically acclaimed titles of this gen are on every console except the Wii, then it does become a bit of a problem for the console. It would be okay if the library consisted of amazing first party and third party like previous market leaders such as the PS2, but it doesn't. Please find me a legitimate reason why multiplats shouldn't count in this case besides "SW doesn't acknowledge it."

Ugh...Everyday it seems. I'll address what you said about the Wii lacking good third/first party titles....It doesn't. Simple. Wii has a great exclusive library. About exclusives; it's just the way SW works, multiplats are nice but exclusives are what really counts around here, don't like it then don't post.

SW is all about ownage for your console and your console alone, if a game is available on both PS3/360 and is equally great on both then it's a stalemate, nobody wins. If Lemmings have a swanky exclusive Cows don't have then Cows/Sheep/Hermits are owned. A game being mutliplat negates the ownage. While multiplats are nice for numbers, it's exclusives that are the real deal around here.

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#36 bobbetybob
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How is 66 great games struggling for games? Yes it's not a huge amount, but its more than enough for any open minded gamer.
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#37 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="Sky-"]

[QUOTE="Im_single"]

Exclusives rule SW, anybody whose been here for more than a couple of months can tell you that.

Im_single

When some of the biggest and most critically acclaimed titles of this gen are on every console except the Wii, then it does become a bit of a problem for the console. It would be okay if the library consisted of amazing first party and third party like previous market leaders such as the PS2, but it doesn't. Please find me a legitimate reason why multiplats shouldn't count in this case besides "SW doesn't acknowledge it."

Ugh...Everyday it seems. I'll address what you said about the Wii lacking good third/first party titles....It doesn't. Simple. Wii has a great exclusive library. About exclusives; it's just the way SW works, multiplats are nice but exclusives are what really counts around here, don't like it then don't post.

No it doesn't and yes they do. Just because you refuse to acknowledge multiplats doesn't mean system wars does. When comparing 360 and Ps3 exclusives have more weight because they play the same multiplats but even than they are compared for the superior version ie Bayonetta and Darksiders.

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#38 Alter_Echo
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People already knew this without you posting about it. Thanks though.

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#39 Shielder7
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SW is all about ownage for your console and your console alone, if a game is available on both PS3/360 and is equally great on both then it's a stalemate, nobody wins. If Lemmings have a swanky exclusive Cows don't have then Cows/Sheep/Hermits are owned. A game being mutliplat negates the ownage. While multiplats are nice for numbers, it's exclusives that are the real deal around here.

Im_single

A game being mutliplat negates the ownage only if it's the same across the board and can be played on both systems. When a great Multi plat come out for the Ps3 and 360 Cows and Lemmings get to unite and say ha ha Sheep. The Wii really only gets exclusives so when you compare the Wii to anything else you have to take into account of all the multi plats it's missing which is the norm around here.

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#40 Phaze-Two
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considering wii's sales, yeah, that'es pretty bad.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]where would the HD twins be without pc ports cutmaclass1
You mean like inFamous, Resistance, Killzone 2, Assassin's Creed, LittleBigPlanet, Halo, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, MGS, Alan Wake, GTA, Gran Turismo, Forza, Rare's games, and Final Fantasy? Which -- as we all know -- were all PC games before console games and never the other way around. Hell, even the original Mass Effect was on console before it was on PC. Frankly, that's like asking where would the Wii be without GameCube ports? Brawl and Twilight Princess -- two of the biggest "Wii games" -- were both obviously designed for the GameCube. How about the obvious PS2 and GCN ports? Okami, RE4, the REmakes? It's ridiculous. If you want to pretend like console games are mostly derived from PC originals, then at least they get current ports like Fallout 3 or Oblivion unlike the Wii which gets games which came out too late in the last generation.

braw is a GC port?
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#42 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Compared to the 360 and PS3 the Wii completely destroys them, to me.

It's all about preference.

Sky-

If that is the way you personally feel, that is okay. In the context of System Wars, you need more solid criteria to define a good library (reviews from Metacritic/GameRankings).

I really don't care much if SW bases it's purhcases and opinions off of reviewers opinions. All I know is I'd rather play the Wii's "crappy" games over the 360/PS3's "OMG AWEZOME CINAMTIX" games.

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#43 GunSmith1_basic
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if you look at the different libraries in a game store or wherever, the wii is definitely not the system I would want to trapped on a deserted island with. There are good games there, but just sooooo much trash mixed right in. Not only that, but for those of us who owned a GC, nintendo has turned their backs on us by wasting their development time on releasing GC games with updated wii controls. I want Pikmin 3, not Pikmin 1. I want Retro's new project, not Metroid Trilogy with new controls. These games might as well be blank spaces on the shelf for me, and they took a long time to produce. The games were given a graphics update and the whole game was rebalanced. It was not as simple as just switching the inputs
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#44 dovberg
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Ratings don't mean much, alot of reviewers will even confess they didn't play some mode or even play the game. Alot of the complaints about wii is the graphics, that's absurd, if that was how everything went no hand held should ever have good reviews.

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#45 clone01
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that just means that the PS3/360 have more AAA and AA games. certainly doesn't mean the Wii's library is terrible. in fact, there's quite a few unique titles on Nintendo's system that i can't play anywhere else.

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#46 KristoffBrujah
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Its library is so bad the word "multiplat" has become a euphemism for "every system but Wii."

And it's even funnier to see Wii owners dismiss multiplats, since they are really notWiiplats.

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#47 angelkimne
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Ugh...Everyday it seems. I'll address what you said about the Wii lacking good third/first party titles....It doesn't. Simple. Wii has a great exclusive library. About exclusives; it's just the way SW works, multiplats are nice but exclusives are what really counts around here, don't like it then don't post.

SW is all about ownage for your console and your console alone, if a game is available on both PS3/360 and is equally great on both then it's a stalemate, nobody wins. If Lemmings have a swanky exclusive Cows don't have then Cows/Sheep/Hermits are owned. A game being mutliplat negates the ownage. While multiplats are nice for numbers, it's exclusives that are the real deal around here.

Im_single

Argh, I hate this way of thinking. The only rules on SW are the TOS; beyond that, anarchy. Stop hiding behind this 'System Wars rules' line. It's just like the 'only GS scores count' thing; completely illogical and pointless. >: ( /rant

On topic; no, I wouldn't say the Wii has a terrible library; that would be something like Gizmondo. :P It only seems bad once you compare it to the other consoles. Otherwise, it has loads of good games.

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#48 Half-Way
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great, but those numbers are way off in the real world

not to mention the wii has lots of games which can be played ONLY on the wii,

while the cows favorit "i have a gaming pc" arguemnt can be used on those other consoles

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#49 Scythes777
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This Thread=Original

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#50 shadow_hosi
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thats great that your playing review scores ill actual play GAMES, and the wii has tons of great games