WiiU (ZombiU), Witcher 2 (360) and Next Gen systems xbox 720 (FF15 Agnes)

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#152 supercasuals
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better than halo combat evolved remake atleast

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#153 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

No, the 360 runs the light version, but its all you got so I guess you have to try big it up :)

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He seems to be a bit delusional

That's a understatement Compared to full medium settings the 360 version is missing texture quality, uses 2D sprites. lower draw distances,lower LOD, missing shadows, and has 10x the loading screens. 360 version isnt even close to full medium settings on PC.

Actually runs above PC medium and by Digital Foundry has vastly better lighting on top

And AA that PC does not have in the tests

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#154 clyde46
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

He seems to be a bit delusional

loosingENDS

That's a understatement Compared to full medium settings the 360 version is missing texture quality, uses 2D sprites. lower draw distances,lower LOD, missing shadows, and has 10x the loading screens. 360 version isnt even close to full medium settings on PC.

Actually runs above PC medium and by Digital Foundry has vastly better lighting on top

And AA that PC does not have in the tests

Man you are dumb. The PC everything the 360 version has and more.
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#155 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] That's a understatement Compared to full medium settings the 360 version is missing texture quality, uses 2D sprites. lower draw distances,lower LOD, missing shadows, and has 10x the loading screens. 360 version isnt even close to full medium settings on PC.clyde46

Actually runs above PC medium and by Digital Foundry has vastly better lighting on top

And AA that PC does not have in the tests

Man you are dumb. The PC everything the 360 version has and more.

Then Digital Foundry that confirms much better lighting on 360 is also dumb

And i guess a random forum user that has not compared the two versions know more than Digital Foundry LOL

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#156 mrfrosty151986
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Wii U launch games vs 4-5th generation 360 games? Man lemmings are getting desparate.

And the other shots were shown on high end PC's and not next generation consoles so that's self ownage right there.

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#157 Animal-Mother
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My god. Comparing something two weeks old to something that's been out seven years?

It's as if you're asking a seven year old to fight a new born.
I wonder who would win that :roll:

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#158 loosingENDS
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Wii U launch games vs 4-5th generation 360 games? Man lemmings are getting desparate.

And the other shots were shown on high end PC's and not next generation consoles so that's self ownage right there.

mrfrosty151986













You mean 5th generarion PS2 games were better than xbox 360 launch titles ??

LOL, that is the most hilarious excuse i have ever seen

But OK, lets compare the crapU to xbox 360 launch title Kameo !!!!

My god. Comparing something two weeks old to something that's been out seven years?

It's as if you're asking a seven year old to fight a new born.
I wonder who would win that :roll:

Animal-Mother

I hope you are joking

The strength of hardware increases as we go, it is not getting better with age

LOL, i cant believe what i read in this forum

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#159 mrfrosty151986
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[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"]

Wii U launch games vs 4-5th generation 360 games? Man lemmings are getting desparate.

And the other shots were shown on high end PC's and not next generation consoles so that's self ownage right there.

loosingENDS

You mean 5th generarion PS2 games were better than xbox 360 launch titles ??

LOL, that is the most hilarious excuse i have ever seen

But OK, lets compare the crapU to xbox 360 launch title Kameo !!!!

My god. Comparing something two weeks old to something that's been out seven years?

It's as if you're asking a seven year old to fight a new born.
I wonder who would win that :roll:

Animal-Mother

I hope you are joking

The strength of hardware increases as we go, it is not getting better with age

LOL, i cant believe what i read in this forum

Ah yes Kameo, the game with no AF texture filtering, basic polygon characters, primitive lighting and cut/paste textures? Awesome post!
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Ah yes Kameo, the game with no AF texture filtering, basic polygon characters, primitive lighting and cut/paste textures? Awesome post!mrfrosty151986

Seems like the game that looks 100 generations head of ZombiU to me, by the pics above

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#161 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Actually runs above PC medium and by Digital Foundry has vastly better lighting on top

And AA that PC does not have in the tests

loosingENDS

Man you are dumb. The PC everything the 360 version has and more.

Then Digital Foundry that confirms much better lighting on 360 is also dumb

And i guess a random forum user that has not compared the two versions know more than Digital Foundry LOL

Did you even read the review?

As you might expect, from a nuts-and-bolts technical perspective, there are some easy wins for the PC: for a start, texture quality and filtering is generally in another league altogether compared to the Xbox 360 game.

PC also scores easy wins in terms of shadow quality and the number of them being rendered dynamically. Effects work doesn't just benefit from higher-precision buffers, but also from physically higher resolution: performance-sapping alpha effects such as smoke, fog and particles are clearly running at a lower res on the Xbox 360, with intersecting geometry often showing some noticeable jaggies.

In other areas we also see a generally higher quality of presentation on the PC game: both versions employ post-process anti-aliasing, and the effect is patently cleaner on the original release - the Xbox 360 game looks to be utilising console-quality FXAA or something very similar. Texture and geometry pop-in and draw distance also show clear advantages on PC, as you would expect.

Ouch,so much for the game beeing gens ahead :lol:

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#162 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"]

Wii U launch games vs 4-5th generation 360 games? Man lemmings are getting desparate.

And the other shots were shown on high end PC's and not next generation consoles so that's self ownage right there.

loosingENDS


You mean 5th generarion PS2 games were better than xbox 360 launch titles ??

LOL, that is the most hilarious excuse i have ever seen

But OK, lets compare the crapU to xbox 360 launch title Kameo !!!!

My god. Comparing something two weeks old to something that's been out seven years?

It's as if you're asking a seven year old to fight a new born.
I wonder who would win that :roll:

Animal-Mother

I hope you are joking

The strength of hardware increases as we go, it is not getting better with age

LOL, i cant believe what i read in this forum

It's still a new console it doesn't matter. Comparing something that has had years to develop over something devs have had a year or so with/.

You're a bumbling idiot.

Yea I know hardware strength increases but didn't it take 360 devs to take a little bit to learn the hardware?

I mean what it took 3 years to develop gears 1 visuals? and almost 8 to make gears 3?

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#163 mrfrosty151986
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[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"]

Ah yes Kameo, the game with no AF texture filtering, basic polygon characters, primitive lighting and cut/paste textures? Awesome post!loosingENDS

Seems like the game that looks 100 generations head of ZombiU to me, by the pics above

Yes Kameo looks so much better :|

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#164 loosingENDS
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Looks better to me

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#165 MonsieurX
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Must be blind
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#166 MonsieurX
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Also,nice avoidance on my ownage :lol:
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#167 mrfrosty151986
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Looks better to me

loosingENDS
I've seen games running on a Sony PSP with higher polygon counts...  Blury floor texture, basic lighting and why is nothing casting shadows? And where's the SSAO?
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#168 loosingENDS
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And i have seen games on PS1 with higher polygon counts than ZombiU

Kameo has vastly more polygons, shaders, scale, detail etc than ZombiU

kameo seems multiple generations ahead in every way

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#169 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Man you are dumb. The PC everything the 360 version has and more. MonsieurX

Then Digital Foundry that confirms much better lighting on 360 is also dumb

And i guess a random forum user that has not compared the two versions know more than Digital Foundry LOL

Did you even read the review?

As you might expect, from a nuts-and-bolts technical perspective, there are some easy wins for the PC: for a start, texture quality and filtering is generally in another league altogether compared to the Xbox 360 game.

PC also scores easy wins in terms of shadow quality and the number of them being rendered dynamically. Effects work doesn't just benefit from higher-precision buffers, but also from physically higher resolution: performance-sapping alpha effects such as smoke, fog and particles are clearly running at a lower res on the Xbox 360, with intersecting geometry often showing some noticeable jaggies.

In other areas we also see a generally higher quality of presentation on the PC game: both versions employ post-process anti-aliasing, and the effect is patently cleaner on the original release - the Xbox 360 game looks to be utilising console-quality FXAA or something very similar. Texture and geometry pop-in and draw distance also show clear advantages on PC, as you would expect.

Ouch,so much for the game beeing gens ahead :lol:

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#170 clyde46
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And i have seen games on PS1 with higher polygon counts than ZombiU

Kameo has vastly more polygons, shaders, scale, detail etc than ZombiU

kameo seems multiple generations ahead in every way

loosingENDS
Your mother must of been necking some serious moonshine when she had you.
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#171 gameofthering
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Then Digital Foundry that confirms much better lighting on 360 is also dumb

And i guess a random forum user that has not compared the two versions know more than Digital Foundry LOL

MonsieurX

Did you even read the review?

As you might expect, from a nuts-and-bolts technical perspective, there are some easy wins for the PC: for a start, texture quality and filtering is generally in another league altogether compared to the Xbox 360 game.

PC also scores easy wins in terms of shadow quality and the number of them being rendered dynamically. Effects work doesn't just benefit from higher-precision buffers, but also from physically higher resolution: performance-sapping alpha effects such as smoke, fog and particles are clearly running at a lower res on the Xbox 360, with intersecting geometry often showing some noticeable jaggies.

In other areas we also see a generally higher quality of presentation on the PC game: both versions employ post-process anti-aliasing, and the effect is patently cleaner on the original release - the Xbox 360 game looks to be utilising console-quality FXAA or something very similar. Texture and geometry pop-in and draw distance also show clear advantages on PC, as you would expect.

Ouch,so much for the game beeing gens ahead :lol:

He will just avoid this.

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#172 mrfrosty151986
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Kameo completely destroys Zombie U's graphics...

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#173 jman1553
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Didn't know that Wii U was hyped for it's graphicsMonsieurX
It was, though.
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#174 loosingENDS
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@mrfrosty151986 Nice fake ZombiU pics LOL

Try some with HUD or those from the review here in Gamespot, like the above

http://www.gamespot.com/zombiu/images/

I have definatly seen PS1 games with better graphics, polygons and textures than that garbage

ZombiU is defiantly runner up for the most ugly looking game of all time (speaking about the actual in game, not the fictious fake pics and arkwork)

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#175 MonsieurX
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So,when are you going to answer on TW2?
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#176 gameofthering
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So,when are you going to answer on TW2?MonsieurX
You're determined to get an answer :P

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#179 supercasuals
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tw2 looks alright but the pc is capable of much better graphics than that lol.

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Man you are dumb. The PC everything the 360 version has and more. MonsieurX

Then Digital Foundry that confirms much better lighting on 360 is also dumb

And i guess a random forum user that has not compared the two versions know more than Digital Foundry LOL

Did you even read the review?

As you might expect, from a nuts-and-bolts technical perspective, there are some easy wins for the PC: for a start, texture quality and filtering is generally in another league altogether compared to the Xbox 360 game.

PC also scores easy wins in terms of shadow quality and the number of them being rendered dynamically. Effects work doesn't just benefit from higher-precision buffers, but also from physically higher resolution: performance-sapping alpha effects such as smoke, fog and particles are clearly running at a lower res on the Xbox 360, with intersecting geometry often showing some noticeable jaggies.

In other areas we also see a generally higher quality of presentation on the PC game: both versions employ post-process anti-aliasing, and the effect is patently cleaner on the original release - the Xbox 360 game looks to be utilising console-quality FXAA or something very similar. Texture and geometry pop-in and draw distance also show clear advantages on PC, as you would expect.

Ouch,so much for the game beeing gens ahead :lol:

Loosingend has yet again made an absolute fool of himself. Gotta love it when he owns himself. :p

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#181 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]So,when are you going to answer on TW2?gameofthering

You're determined to get an answer :P

Yes cause I know he can't
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#182 jimmyrussle117
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Loose you do realise you just posted like 15 bullshots of average looking games right?

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#183 loosingENDS
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Loose you do realise you just posted like 15 bullshots of average looking games right?

jimmyrussle117

You mean they look so stunning that you consider them bullshots ?

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#184 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Wow this cokcsuckr is making threads again? Interesting.
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#185 mariokart64fan
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once you go wii u you cant go back i tried playing gta iv , lol and that was it i couldnt take the lousy draw distances any longer , sub hd! lol zombie u looks amazing , looks like goldeneye007 on pills and we all know that pd and ge were the 2 most technical looking games of their gen ,

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These cards (7660 and 6670 > 5670 of WiiU) barely run Withcer 2 at 30fps in 360 specs

In fact Xenos runs it much better, with AA and above medium setting, which would bring both those other card fps to 15 or lower

In general i expect the difference between xbox 720 and WiiU to be 2-3x bigger than Wii-360 difference

From what i gather WiiU only barely matches 360 in actual world performance and xbox 720 will have a top 2014 GPU, which will be anything from 20-30 times faster and stronger than that

loosingENDS

is that hard to understand that the xbox version is below medium settings and also it is in sud-HD?

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#187 tubbyc
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once you go wii u you cant go back i tried playing gta iv , lol and that was it i couldnt take the lousy draw distances any longer , sub hd! lol zombie u looks amazing , looks like goldeneye007 on pills and we all know that pd and ge were the 2 most technical looking games of their gen ,

mariokart64fan

ZombiU is a nice looking game but not more impressive than current gen. It's very different from a GTA. GTA having a big open world with more going on. It would be interesting to see GTAV on the Wii U if it got it, and how it would compare to the 360 and PS3 versions.

Have you read about Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 and how it looks pretty much exactly like the 360 version, but worse performance? I saw that Batman and Epic Mickey 2 have performance issues too from the Giantbomb stream.

I guess devs will get more out of the Wii U in the future, but I'm not expecting a huge improvement. Something like higher res and/or framerate for some games. Not much else.

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#188 sandbox3d
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I really don't know how you do it Loosey. Bringing the butthurt without even trying. You own this board man, you really do.

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#189 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]





These cards (7660 and 6670 > 5670 of WiiU) barely run Withcer 2 at 30fps in 360 specs

In fact Xenos runs it much better, with AA and above medium setting, which would bring both those other card fps to 15 or lower

In general i expect the difference between xbox 720 and WiiU to be 2-3x bigger than Wii-360 difference

From what i gather WiiU only barely matches 360 in actual world performance and xbox 720 will have a top 2014 GPU, which will be anything from 20-30 times faster and stronger than that

MK-Professor

is that hard to understand that the xbox version is below medium settings and also it is in sud-HD?

its hilarious that he thinks that the next xbox is going to be using a top end gpu. But for him anything for him is top end compared to that 5450 of his :lol:
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@mrfrosty151986 Nice fake ZombiU pics LOL

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#191 Peredith
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Really ?

Your 2005 GTX7800 cant even start Witcher 2 you know, 2005 hardware and GPUs with 800$ cost were a joke comparing to the 300$ xbox 360

loosingENDS

Ah, gotta love Glitchspot sometimes.....

Anyway, The Witcher 2 will start with any GeForce 7-series video card. You're already wrong right there.

However, some textures are transparent because the 7-series may be missing some features that the developers required in The Witcher 2 which is why they went with the 8-series as a minimum.

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/387881-the-witcher-2-transparent-terrain-textures/

So, it can start but cant be played

LOL

So, no, 7800GTX cant play Witcher 2, obviously if you go down to 480p and zero effects/textures, will run it

But that is the PS1 version of Witcher 2, while xbox 360 runs the 2011 proper full version

Keep dreaming.

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#192 Peredith
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"]

Ah yes Kameo, the game with no AF texture filtering, basic polygon characters, primitive lighting and cut/paste textures? Awesome post!mrfrosty151986

Seems like the game that looks 100 generations head of ZombiU to me, by the pics above

Yes Kameo looks so much better :|

Is that ZombieU? I thought the first gif was from a movie.

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#193 Peredith
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Kameo completely destroys Zombie U's graphics...

mrfrosty151986

Bullshot? That looks fvcking amazing.

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#194 el3m2tigre
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Im surprised loosey didn't abandon thread yet, considering the whoop ass he game himself :lol:

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#195 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="TheDidact"]STOP POSTING SO MANY FVCKING SCREENS YOU TW4T!!!!!!!! OH YEAH SURE COMPARE A FIRST TIME WII U GAME CONSTRUCTED IN ABOUT A YEAR TO GAMES WITH YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT FROM SOME OF THE BEST IN THE INDUSTRY!!!!! LET'S COMPARE HALO 4 TO CRYSIS 3 AT MAX SETTINGS WHILE WE'RE AT IT!!!!!loosingENDS

WiiU cant run anything like Crysis or Halo 4, that is the point

http://au.ign.com/articles/2012/06/20/crytek-cryengine-3-beautiful-on-wii-u

Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli doesn't share those concerns. In an interview with CVG, Yerli said Wii U is "minimum on par with the current generation."

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-08-30-cryengine-3-powered-sniper-ghost-warrior-2-headed-to-wii-u

CryEngine 3-powered Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2 headed to Wii U

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With Crysis, http://http.developer.nvidia.com/GPUGems3/gpugems3_ch16.html

Vegetation in games has always been mainly static, with some sort of simple bending to give the illusion of wind. Our game scenes can have thousands of different vegetations, but still we pushed the envelope further by making vegetation react to global and local wind sources, and we bend not only the vegetation but also the leaves, in detail, with all computations procedurally and efficiently done on the GPU.

PS; Original Crysis PC only supports one CPU core.

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These cards (7660 and 6670 > 5670 of WiiU) barely run Withcer 2 at 30fps in 360 specs

In fact Xenos runs it much better, with AA and above medium setting, which would bring both those other card fps to 15 or lower

In general i expect the difference between xbox 720 and WiiU to be 2-3x bigger than Wii-360 difference

From what i gather WiiU only barely matches 360 in actual world performance and xbox 720 will have a top 2014 GPU, which will be anything from 20-30 times faster and stronger than that

loosingENDS

Xbox 360's Witcher 2 doesn't render at 1400x900 LOL. From http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

Xbox 360's Witcher 2 at 1280x672 (FXAA). It's not even entry level HD.

From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAJChfqHZj4

AMD Radeon HD 5650M + Intel Core i3 runs The Witcher 2 with High Settings and 1280x720p at 25-30 fps. My laptop's 5730M is faster than 5650M. CPU plays a big part with The Witcher 2.

Btw, updating video drivers helps.

Note that AMD Radeon HD 5650M was renamed as Radeon HD 7570M but with 64bit DDR3 memory. Radeon HD 7570M almost matches Wii U's GPU configuration. Not factoring Wii U's eDRAM btw.

Due to 64bit wide memory bus, Radeon HD 7570M is slower than Radeon HD 5730M/6570M.

Crysis 2 running on Radeon HD 7570M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIytR1NSDAQ

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#198 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

360 runs it above medium settings of the PC test above AND with AA, unlike the PC test above

LOL, essentially 360 runs it 10x better

Mediums settings = 10x better than High? :|

These PC tests are in medium-low specs

And without AA

So, 360 runs it way better and with AA

Xbox 360 uses FXAA not MSAA.
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#199 ronvalencia
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360 runs it above medium settings of the PC test above AND with AA, unlike the PC test above

LOL, essentially 360 runs it 10x better

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360 runs TW2 less than 1280x720p i.e. less pixels.

PS; In relation to Wii U vs Xbox 360, I support all devices with AMD GPU.

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We can all agree that the WiiU is the biggest flop in console history when it comes to a NEXT gen console. You know your NEXT GEN console is HORRIBLE, when it runs LAST GEN GAMES worse than the PREVIOUS gen consoles LOL

I didnt see mercenaries 2 run worse on ps3 and 360 in comparison to ps2. I didnt see the first most wanted game run worse on 360 than it did on ps2, lol Get my drift.

WiiU = UTTER FAILURE