Will Sony ever have a franchise reach the success

Of the Mario and Halo? Or will they be stuck with mediocre exclusive titles like Killzone and Uncharted?

Gran Turismo

Uncharted

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Critically? Both Uncharted 2 and TLOU already surpassed any MS exclusive with the exception of Halo 1

Commercially? GT series sold more than Halo series

try again lem

You didn't really specify, so I'll try to answer this best I can...

Gran Turismo is Sony's Mario/Halo in terms of sales. It's a sales phenom that is forgotten in SW, but that's the answer if you are talking sales. GT is HUGE and it's regarded as Sony's Mario/Halo commercially. I'm not a huge car racing fan, nor do I care for sales, but there's the answer for you.

If you are looking for Iconic, I would suggest Sony's God of War over Killzone, Infamous, LittleBigPlanet, Gran Turismo, Twisted Metal, Ratchet & Clank, Sly Cooper, or Uncharted. To each their own when talking Iconic though.

If you are talking critically, I would suggest Sony's LittleBigPlanet 1/2, Sony's MLB: The Show series, Sony's God of War 1-3, Sony's The Last of Us, or ESPECIALLY Sony's Uncharted 1/2/3.

Regarding 1st party titles: Sony creates a lot of games and release 1st party retail games year round as opposed to releasing a few titles at Xmas window like their console competitors, maybe one might consider they spread themselves thin making so many 1st games per year. That same person might recommend Sony Cancel multiple games, really work/concentrate on marketing only a few games a year instead, and just release a couple of 1st party games a year like the competition. Those games would sell better, presumably. I would have to ask though, as gamers don't we want more great games on the market? I beat a lot of games, so I enjoy more great games to choose from, not less.

LOL I wanted a cow to post this. You admit no Sony exclusive has reached the success of Halo.

That's all I needed to see. BTW Since Halo was released it has sold more then GT..... LOL.

Critically Uncharted and TLOU surpass any Halo game.

Commercially Gran Turismo has surpassed Halo.

Well that was quick lol. OP has been owned

GT duh!!!!

Sorry to do this to you but Halo 1 is not an exclusive.

Gran Turismo sells better than Halo and Uncharted/TLOU ha great sales and better reviews. Uncharted, Little Big Planet, God Of War(excluding Ascension) were all IPs last gen than moved a ton of units with great critical acclaim.

I don't really keep up with Nintendo software sales.

Incorrect, LOL try again!

Like Gran Turismo? The scores fluctuate, but the sales are damn solid. Dunno how they'd match Nintendo though, as they kinda dominate with major franchises.

@mrxboxone: incorrect based on what? LOL GTFO you're a joke

Sales? GT though currently that looks to be in decline. Iconic? No, you don't form an icon in a few years and since Sony consistently resets gens its unlikely.

Where? The original Halo is ranked higher than TLoU and any UC game on Metacritic. The only place is GameRankings, which is very rarely used.

If you're specifying industry awards, you need to show evidence.

Gran Turismo sells better than Halo and Uncharted/TLOU has great sales and better reviews. Uncharted, Little Big Planet, God Of War(excluding Ascension) were all IPs last gen than moved a ton of units with great critical acclaim.

Edit you you called Uncharted mediocre when all the 3 were 88 or above on Metacritic with Uncharted 2 sitting at 96. Either idiot or troll.

Unlikely:

Halo series sales (November 2012).

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-series-sales-hit-50-million/1100-6401164/

Gran Turismo series sales (November 2012).

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/gran-turismo-series-sales-hit-678-million/1100-6399541/

@StrongBlackVine: he's an idiot

Total GT sales in November 2012 - 67.8 million

Total Halo sales in December 2012 - 50 million

Sources:

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-series-sales-hit-50-million/1100-6401164/

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/gran-turismo-series-sales-hit-678-million/1100-6399541/

A difference of 17.8 million isnt small... at all

Try again

Based on facts lol. Halo franchise has a higher meta score then ANY naughty dog title. Not to mention, since the halo series has been released it has sold more copies then any Sony exclusive. Halo 3 sold 15 million, GT5.....10. Uncharted around just over 5 million LOL.

beat me to it

there you have it TC

Mario very unlikely, Halo already done.

Considering how many platforms GT has spread out across, that's pretty impressive for Halo all the same. I didn't realize the 1st 2 GT games were that big though. Crazy.

That article PROVES my point. Excluding the PS1 and the first GT game on the PS2 (Halo wasn't released then). No sony exclusive has outsold Halo. LOL

What? No, Naughty dog has released like 2 games in the past 5 years with 95+ meta scores which no Halo game has achieved.

Here I was thinking that GT's sales success was firmly established by sales lovers in System Wars. I know I've answered this GT query multiple times before in years past in SW threads I'm fairly certain you were in.

My thinking is the winners there are Xbox and Playstation brands and the parent corps, not any of us...which is why I'm not passionate about sales, lol, since I don't see a dime for these games sales. I'm more excited about rave reviews on a game I was wishy washy on so I feel more confident in buying it.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox/halo-combat-evolved 97.......... lol

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox/halo-2 95............. LOL

Obviously GT sold better overall, but he's saying that since Halo released, nothing has reached Halo's popularity. Pretty close, assuming all numbers are accurate. GT is 49,810,000. Halo is 50 million, but may have been rounded. Source

Am sorry, facts are facts. And the only fact here is that GT has sold more than Halo thus is more successfull than Halo or we shouldnt count Mario aswell cause Mario was on the market waaaaaay longer than any series out there.

Dont DC the facts that were put before you TC. It just makes you look desperate

Oh I always knew GT was big but I never actually bothered to look at the sales of the 1st 2 games. 10 million+ each wasn't what I was expecting. Also, I don't religiously read and remember everything you say man, sorry if you thought I did.

I don't expect that you religiously read and remember everything, I was politely suggesting that I've specifically pointed you to the GT franchise in one of your threads many moons ago (or a thread you were merely in), which is why I was surprised by your surprise. I believe the thread was some NPD thread, and you were talking about Mario's sales and I brought up GT with links to sales #'s for reference. I remember you seemed surprised back then, so I thought GT sales numbers were done surprising you by now. It was long ago, Eh, no bigs.

I'm not worried about it, but I got a strong sense of Déjà vu reading about your surprise of GTs early success in this thread.

Sorry but thats besides the point. Overall GT HAS sold more than Halo thus it IS more successfull than it. Now if we're talking about current popularity thats a whole another discussion.

I'll agree to disagree. It makes sense to directly compare both series, like the aforementioned individual was doing. Total sales figures are all well and good, but when one has been out 4 years it makes little sense to compare total sales. Your outline takes precendence though, I agree.

I've been on this site for roughly 5 years, you way longer. I dunno why you think I would have any recollection of this happening. I don't even know why you do. Forgetting all that, you were hardly being polite. You were being snarky, let's not even pretend its tiring.

Mario dominated either in the time of there releases. But everyone knows Halo and Mario are the top dogs in the video game industry. That wasn't the question. The question is, will Sony ever..... EVER have a game franchise reach the success of EITHER Halo or Mario. And you subjectively use excuses because the answer is no. Sony does not own any franchise at either Mario or Halo's level.

You had to compare Uncharted and The Last Of Us "critically" (Yet no Naughty Dog title has critically matched Halo) and GT "in sales" (which since Halo has been on shelves, is simply not true). You tried to use 3 that's THREE franchise to match just one. AGAIN this proves my point. You have nothing at the success of either Mario or Halo.

Yeesh, you got it all wrong, but what evs. This is what I hate about the internet in general, tones are missing so casual observations have to be more than they are. If I carefully eloborate, I'm being snarky and if I don't elaborate, the conversation gets confusing and ends up being longer than I intended. I'm not trying to make anyone pretend or get touchy. I was trying to jog your memory, because for some reason that nugget of a memory is lodged in my mind. No biggie.

We'll part ways here.

*Shrugs*

Desperate lem OP has been owned.

lol

keep the delusional flare lem

Halo is actually loosing popularity

Halo 4 total sales - 8.69 million

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=halo+4

(if you dont like VGChartz provide another source)

and

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-01-23-the-most-popular-games-on-xbox-live-in-2012-were

"Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 were more popular on Xbox Live in 2012 than Halo 4"

A few years ago, any Halo game would be the undeniable number 1 game on XBLA. Now COD has stollen many of its fans

Also, VGChartzlol.

So the last Halo game (Halo 4) has sold more then Uncharted 3 and TLOU combined? SWEET! LOL Just continue to prove my point.

Define "success". Do you mean sales, critical acclaim, or both?

How about period? Right now Sony has nothing to offer.

Well, if we're talking about the libraries of the PS4 and One, the One doesn't have anything that's received much more critical acclaim than any game on the PS4. It's really too early to tell which system has more to offer right now (this is the reason I don't buy consoles at launch).

Took the words outta my mouth SolidTy. GoW is their guy critically and GT sales wise. Not a big racer guy, but love my GoW

Came off as snarky. If you weren't being snarky then my apologies. This is a stupid thing to be arguing about. If we had this discussion, I genuinely do not remember it. Point being, GT is a sales monster, I wonder how 7 is going to perform given Sony sorta botched 6 by releasing it so close to the PS4 launch.

This is easy.

Sales: Gran Turismo

Quality: Uncharted

Sony has a very different approach to first party game development than either Microsoft or Nintendo. Their model is not franchise centric, and they instead try to have a variety of experiences be synonymous with their brand, instead of just one franchise. Think of it as 'Jack of all trades, master of none.' They aren't trying to give you one mega franchise like Microsoft (or multiple, like Nintendo). They're trying to give you many relatively smaller franchises, and letting you choose from among them what you want for yourself.

It's an admirable strategy, and I find myself warming up to it more and more.

/Thread.

this thread ended quicky

on the topic of exclusives as your main post and posts clearly state. Halo 1 and Halo 2 are not exclusives. The other halo games are.

Its a tad bit hypocritical isn't it

TC is a blind fanboy. Claims that overall sales between GT and Halo don't count because GT had a head start but yet uses sales to explain why Halo is better than Uncharted series.

He then says that it has to be exclusive and he uses Halo 1, which is NOT exclusive as his measuring stick for overall quality. TC is a blind Lem, can this thread be closed now?