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I'm not sure anyone will truly argue this.
then you'll have cows caught up in their 'shooter console' bs. I don't think they want to try and boast KZ and have that brought down on them:o
HavocV3
I do like KZ though, I just dont think its a multipalyer behemoth.
I guess your right, not even 360 fans would argue against this. Kind of a pointless thread.. Oh well, I though maybe there would be more "hopefull" 360 fans :PI'm not sure anyone will truly argue this.
then you'll have cows caught up in their 'shooter console' bs. I don't think they want to try and boast KZ and have that brought down on them:o
HavocV3
No they won't. But then again, I don't care much for shooters. Even the few I do care about, I would say to play shooters on a PC where it belongs.
[QUOTE="HavocV3"]
I'm not sure anyone will truly argue this.
then you'll have cows caught up in their 'shooter console' bs. I don't think they want to try and boast KZ and have that brought down on them:o
XboximusPrime
I do like KZ though, I just dont think its a multipalyer behemoth.
oh that's fine.
but it's a weird phenomenon seeing people worry about how many shooters the 360 has and then seeing that same person praise the FPS on the opposite console to high heaven:P
*looks at scores, and sales*
hmm looks to me nearly every 360 exclusive shooter surpasses completely every ps3 shooter...
[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]
[QUOTE="HavocV3"]
I'm not sure anyone will truly argue this.
then you'll have cows caught up in their 'shooter console' bs. I don't think they want to try and boast KZ and have that brought down on them:o
HavocV3
I do like KZ though, I just dont think its a multipalyer behemoth.
oh that's fine.
but it's a weird phenomenon seeing people worry about how many shooters the 360 has and then seeing that same person praise the FPS on the opposite console to high heaven:P
It is kind of odd, the 360 is mainly a console shooter nuts go for, which is why shooters like Cod, Halo, Gears sell so much. But the truth is, the PS3 obliterates the 360 in that department. Uniformed masses for the most part probably.yes because sales equals quality right? I also take it you classify Wii Fit as an AAAE+ game.*looks at scores, and sales*
hmm looks to me nearly every 360 exclusive shooter surpasses completely every ps3 shooter...
WilliamRLBaker
[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]
[QUOTE="HavocV3"]
I'm not sure anyone will truly argue this.
then you'll have cows caught up in their 'shooter console' bs. I don't think they want to try and boast KZ and have that brought down on them:o
HavocV3
I do like KZ though, I just dont think its a multipalyer behemoth.
oh that's fine.
but it's a weird phenomenon seeing people worry about how many shooters the 360 has and then seeing that same person praise the FPS on the opposite console to high heaven:P
Thats true. I think both consoles have a healthy amount of shooters. 360 is mainly viewed as the shooter console, but thats mainly due to Halo and the better controller for FPS's arguably.
On the topic of KZ and all that, I personaly do like it, and I can see why people would maybe like the mechanics or setting of it better then that of a Halo, but I really dont see how anyone can really say its better than Halo at Online. I know the TC didnt say Halo specificaly, but I think it was implied since halo is like THE biggest FPS for multiplayer right now outside of MW.
*looks at scores, and sales*
hmm looks to me nearly every 360 exclusive shooter surpasses completely every ps3 shooter...
WilliamRLBaker
Dosent mean theyre still not great on PS3. KZ 2 is hella good. I dont agree with the TC though. I think 360 kinda excels in the shooter department while PS3 excels at other departments.
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]yes because sales equals quality right? I also take it you classify Wii Fit as an AAAE+ game.*looks at scores, and sales*
hmm looks to me nearly every 360 exclusive shooter surpasses completely every ps3 shooter...
Locutus_Picard
He said sales and scores. Sales AND SCORES ;)
I say the answer you're looking for is right there in front of your eyes; in your title. ;)Arbiterisl33t69
Truly awesome response :lol:
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]yes because sales equals quality right? I also take it you classify Wii Fit as an AAAE+ game. gotta love that, did any one else notice it? he completely ignored looks at scores and only concentrated on sales. Heres a tip Picard sales mean pretty much every thing, Scores mean pretty much every thing, the 360 exclusive shooters have the sales and scores to completely surpass the ps3 shooters. sales mean people are willing to buy the product, sales after a long time means it has staying power people recognize quality and read the reviews and buy it after a long time. sales mean the company supports a title consistantly and constantly under most usual circumstances. If sales meant nothing then the ps3 would be considered #1. its not...it doesn't have the hardware sales or software sales compared to the wii and 360.*looks at scores, and sales*
hmm looks to me nearly every 360 exclusive shooter surpasses completely every ps3 shooter...
Locutus_Picard
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]
*looks at scores, and sales*
hmm looks to me nearly every 360 exclusive shooter surpasses completely every ps3 shooter...
XboximusPrime
Dosent mean theyre still not great on PS3. KZ 2 is hella good. I dont agree with the TC though. I think 360 kinda excels in the shooter department while PS3 excels at other departments.
didn't say they sucked did I? but the TC's exact woulds, will the 360 ever reach the ps3's quality of shooters? and I showed it didn't have too it all ready set the bar before the ps3 was even released.yes because sales equals quality right? I also take it you classify Wii Fit as an AAAE+ game.[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]
*looks at scores, and sales*
hmm looks to me nearly every 360 exclusive shooter surpasses completely every ps3 shooter...
AdobeArtist
He said sales and scores. Sales AND SCORES ;)
Fact is that's a lie. You can't take one game and repeatidly stack it up against every game that comes out. Which is what you 360 Halo fans do. You take Halo you use it against a game, say Resistance, then you use ANOTHER game against ANOTHER PS3 title, you don't keep repeating Halo vs x, y and z. That just proves the point of this thread.[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"] yes because sales equals quality right? I also take it you classify Wii Fit as an AAAE+ game.GamingZuru
He said sales and scores. Sales AND SCORES ;)
Fact is that's a lie. You can't take one game and repeatidly stack it up against every game that comes out. Which is what you 360 Halo fans do. You take Halo you use it against a game, say Resistance, then you use ANOTHER game against ANOTHER PS3 title, you don't keep repeating Halo vs x, y and z. That just proves the point of this thread. We shall do that until cows get a game that will beat Halo. If that happens, we will have another game.[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]yes because sales equals quality right? I also take it you classify Wii Fit as an AAAE+ game. gotta love that, did any one else notice it? he completely ignored looks at scores and only concentrated on sales. Heres a tip Picard sales mean pretty much every thing, Scores mean pretty much every thing, the 360 exclusive shooters have the sales and scores to completely surpass the ps3 shooters. sales mean people are willing to buy the product, sales after a long time means it has staying power people recognize quality and read the reviews and buy it after a long time. sales mean the company supports a title consistantly and constantly under most usual circumstances. If sales meant nothing then the ps3 would be considered #1. its not...it doesn't have the hardware sales or software sales compared to the wii and 360.Sorry bud. Halo is nulified by Resistance and the PS3 still has a TON more shooters. You can't keep reusing the same game against every single title that's released. Come back when you have ammo though aka games.*looks at scores, and sales*
hmm looks to me nearly every 360 exclusive shooter surpasses completely every ps3 shooter...
WilliamRLBaker
[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]
*looks at scores, and sales*
hmm looks to me nearly every 360 exclusive shooter surpasses completely every ps3 shooter...
WilliamRLBaker
Dosent mean theyre still not great on PS3. KZ 2 is hella good. I dont agree with the TC though. I think 360 kinda excels in the shooter department while PS3 excels at other departments.
didn't say they sucked did I? but the TC's exact woulds, will the 360 ever reach the ps3's quality of shooters? and I showed it didn't have too it all ready set the bar before the ps3 was even released.Yeah, I think XBOX was considered the shooter console even back in the XBOX 1 days. The controller just seemed better for it, mainly due to triggers. and they kinda perfected it with the 360 controller. But that said controller is pretty bad for other games like Fighters and games that require a decent DPAD.
[QUOTE="GamingZuru"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]He said sales and scores. Sales AND SCORES ;)IAMSERIALFact is that's a lie. You can't take one game and repeatidly stack it up against every game that comes out. Which is what you 360 Halo fans do. You take Halo you use it against a game, say Resistance, then you use ANOTHER game against ANOTHER PS3 title, you don't keep repeating Halo vs x, y and z. That just proves the point of this thread. We shall do that until cows get a game that will beat Halo. If that happens, we will have another game.That's done then. KZ2 won best MP and many more awards then ODST. Next!
[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"] yes because sales equals quality right? I also take it you classify Wii Fit as an AAAE+ game.GamingZuru
He said sales and scores. Sales AND SCORES ;)
Fact is that's a lie. You can't take one game and repeatidly stack it up against every game that comes out. Which is what you 360 Halo fans do. You take Halo you use it against a game, say Resistance, then you use ANOTHER game against ANOTHER PS3 title, you don't keep repeating Halo vs x, y and z. That just proves the point of this thread. Its a lie? odd where did I mention halo? remember halo is the only shooter on the 360.didn't say they sucked did I? but the TC's exact woulds, will the 360 ever reach the ps3's quality of shooters? and I showed it didn't have too it all ready set the bar before the ps3 was even released.[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]
Dosent mean theyre still not great on PS3. KZ 2 is hella good. I dont agree with the TC though. I think 360 kinda excels in the shooter department while PS3 excels at other departments.
XboximusPrime
Yeah, I think XBOX was considered the shooter console even back in the XBOX 1 days. The controller just seemed better for it, mainly due to triggers. and they kinda perfected it with the 360 controller. But that said controller is pretty bad for other games like Fighters and games that require a decent DPAD.
thats the only genre you really need a dpad for, fighters the analog stick works great in every thing else.[QUOTE="GamingZuru"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]He said sales and scores. Sales AND SCORES ;)WilliamRLBakerFact is that's a lie. You can't take one game and repeatidly stack it up against every game that comes out. Which is what you 360 Halo fans do. You take Halo you use it against a game, say Resistance, then you use ANOTHER game against ANOTHER PS3 title, you don't keep repeating Halo vs x, y and z. That just proves the point of this thread. Its a lie? odd where did I mention halo? remember halo is the only shooter on the 360.Pretty much.
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Fixed. thanks, you just proved the TC wrong as well..*looks at opinions, and marketing*
hmm looks to me nearly every 360 exclusive shooter surpasses completely every ps3 shooter...
svenus97
[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] didn't say they sucked did I? but the TC's exact woulds, will the 360 ever reach the ps3's quality of shooters? and I showed it didn't have too it all ready set the bar before the ps3 was even released.WilliamRLBaker
Yeah, I think XBOX was considered the shooter console even back in the XBOX 1 days. The controller just seemed better for it, mainly due to triggers. and they kinda perfected it with the 360 controller. But that said controller is pretty bad for other games like Fighters and games that require a decent DPAD.
thats the only genre you really need a dpad for, fighters the analog stick works great in every thing else. That's from the perpective of a 360 owner that doesn't know what a good dpad is. For the rest of the world there are TONS of genre and games that a nice PS3 style dpad makes so much better.[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Fixed.*looks at opinions, and marketing*
hmm looks to me nearly every 360 exclusive shooter surpasses completely every ps3 shooter...
svenus97
Way to damage control William's post. when it's any other game, of course the sales and scores matter. But when it's Halo, then it's just "opinions and marketing" :roll::roll:
[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]yes because sales equals quality right? I also take it you classify Wii Fit as an AAAE+ game. gotta love that, did any one else notice it? he completely ignored looks at scores and only concentrated on sales. Heres a tip Picard sales mean pretty much every thing, Scores mean pretty much every thing, the 360 exclusive shooters have the sales and scores to completely surpass the ps3 shooters. sales mean people are willing to buy the product, sales after a long time means it has staying power people recognize quality and read the reviews and buy it after a long time. sales mean the company supports a title consistantly and constantly under most usual circumstances. If sales meant nothing then the ps3 would be considered #1. its not...it doesn't have the hardware sales or software sales compared to the wii and 360.*looks at scores, and sales*
hmm looks to me nearly every 360 exclusive shooter surpasses completely every ps3 shooter...
WilliamRLBaker
I really dont think sales are the end all be all, which im not saying is what you meant, unless you actualy did mean that?
Also, I really dont think 360 has THAT much more sold to warrent really saying that. 3.8 million aint THAT big of a deal. and actualy PS3 software tie in ratios are about equal to that of 360 nowadays, its just its hard to see that when you see NPDs, but thats only america. and yes, america is one of the biggest game markets, so selling more there is important, but its also important to sell great in other countries, which PS3 is doing. and a game dosent need to sell 10s of million to be considered a sucess. Sometimes if a game sells 2 million thats sucessful, it all depends on the budget and the expectations adev has for the game. A game like demon sould sold pretty well, and the dev said that was WAY more then they expected to sell. I dont knwo the offical number, but I remember that quote.
So really, I wouldnt put all stock in sales.
[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] didn't say they sucked did I? but the TC's exact woulds, will the 360 ever reach the ps3's quality of shooters? and I showed it didn't have too it all ready set the bar before the ps3 was even released.WilliamRLBaker
Yeah, I think XBOX was considered the shooter console even back in the XBOX 1 days. The controller just seemed better for it, mainly due to triggers. and they kinda perfected it with the 360 controller. But that said controller is pretty bad for other games like Fighters and games that require a decent DPAD.
thats the only genre you really need a dpad for, fighters the analog stick works great in every thing else.They work, but ask any fighting game player that knows what theyre doing, and theyll say you need a good Dpad or a Joystick.
KZ2 is really the only good PS3 shooter
Resistance series sucks, MAG is ok
johnnyblazed88
Actualy, resisitence is pretty good. Its not fantastic, but its fun and the shooting is pretty good. Plus its got some really cool guns.
From the reigning competitive MP champ in KZ2 to the tactical champ in Socom, to the online co op champ in Resistance to the player cap champ in MAG, through MGO, Uncharted and Warhawk to I'm sure a bunch of others I'm missing. The 360 really only has Gears of Bore and Halo which imo feels stale. What say you?GamingZuru
Somebody's a fanboy...
[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="svenus97"] Fixed.GamingZuru
Way to damage control William's post. when it's any other game, of course the sales and scores matter. But when it's Halo, then it's just "opinions and marketing" :roll::roll:
Your confusing Halo fans opinions with the rest of us. Using sales is just lol worthy. Noone cares. Go play farmville.Tell the Gran Turismo fans that nobody else cares about sales ;)
Sorry bud. Halo is nulified by Resistance and the PS3 still has a TON more shooters. You can't keep reusing the same game against every single title that's released. Come back when you have ammo though aka games. GamingZuru
Resistance fall of man 8.6 with 3.70 million sold world wide
Resistance 2 9.0 editors choice with 1.92 million sol world wide
halo 3 9.5 editors choice with 11.10 million sold world wide
halo odst 9.0 editors choice with 5.51 million sold world wide
since you want to keep saying all I'm talking about is halo.
Your confusing Halo fans opinions with the rest of us. Using sales is just lol worthy. Noone cares. Go play farmville.[QUOTE="GamingZuru"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]
Way to damage control William's post. when it's any other game, of course the sales and scores matter. But when it's Halo, then it's just "opinions and marketing" :roll::roll:
AdobeArtist
Tell the Gran Turismo fans that nobody else cares about sales ;)
Oh wow :lol: Ya I guess half the planet is drooling over GT5 because they like sales... :lol: I don't even... :lol:thats the only genre you really need a dpad for, fighters the analog stick works great in every thing else.[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]
Yeah, I think XBOX was considered the shooter console even back in the XBOX 1 days. The controller just seemed better for it, mainly due to triggers. and they kinda perfected it with the 360 controller. But that said controller is pretty bad for other games like Fighters and games that require a decent DPAD.
XboximusPrime
They work, but ask any fighting game player that knows what theyre doing, and theyll say you need a good Dpad or a Joystick.
.....huh? I just said fighting is the only genre where the dpad is absolutely needed, in every thing else the analog sticks work fine.Please Log In to post.
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