Will The Mass Effect Trilogy Be Remembered?

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#1 black_chamber99
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its amazing, you look at the message boards for games like FFVll and xenogears and they're still going strong like those games came out yesterday. fans still debate plot points, philosophize, discuss gameplay strategies, talk about memorable moments or favorite characters, etc. its nice to see classics that came out 15 years ago getting this kind of love today. the fans are keeping those games alive. but what about a series like mass effect? will it be remembered with fondness 15 years from now? will it inspire hatred because of all the controversey surrounding the 'endings'? or will it just be forgotten completely, lost in the ether?

how do you think people will look back on mass effect?

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#2 waltefmoney
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One of the best sci fi franchises, period.

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#3 Ballroompirate
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yup, one of the best ips this gen and one of the best if not the best sci-fi video game ips ever.

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one of the worst games of this generation

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#5 jg4xchamp
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Options 3 and 5.
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#6 BlackAceII
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Remembered on the PC/360.

Won't be remembered on PS3 cause they didn't have ME1 only a comic book :lol:

The true trilogy experience

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#7 AdrianWerner
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It will be. More than anything else from this gen. While it has tons of shortcomings it is an enourmous leap it terms of videogame storytelling. The insane reaction to botched ending is the best proof of how much people care about this series. Similiar ending to any other IP this gen wouldn't cause even half of the same histeria.

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#8 Pikachu69er
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Remembered on the PC/360.

Won't be remembered on PS3 cause they didn't have ME1 only a comic book :lol:

The true trilogy experience

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It would have only been on 360/PC if it didn't flop, bioware wanted sales, and they wern't getting it from those consoles

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#9 shalashaska88
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It will. For the wrong reasons.
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#10 Eddie-Vedder
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Mass Effect is a terribly overrated franchise. I've tried to play all 3 games, maxed on PC, optimal playing conditions and couldn't finsh any of them. They have so many lame problems. From dull gameplay, to lame and cheesy dialogue, to simply dumb design choices.

Mass Effect failed. Except consolites don't know any better.

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#11 dommeus
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Yes.

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#12 LordRork
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It could be remembered like the entire Star Wars saga - the early films are considered classics, the later ones somewhat flawed (if visually impressive).

Mass Effect 3 did a similar amount of damage to its series as Phantom Menace did to Star Wars (or the damage the Yoda Vodafone adverts are doing).

But games have the disadvantage (compared to films) that people stop playing them eventually, often due to hardware changes (aside from a bunch of PC Gamers going "Mako! HELL YES!"). If Bioware can recover from their latest PR mess, the ME universe could live on in some way.

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It will. For the wrong reasons.shalashaska88
This. When you mess up an ending, it doesn't matter what came before. It's like giving a girl the best sex she's ever had then farting in her face. You done f*cked up.
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The best example of wasted potential ever.
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#16 PAL360
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It will be remembered, at least by me, as the best trilogy in videogame history.

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#17 dommeus
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Arguably better games will come along and try to emulate ME's success, but that doesn't stop it being a fantastic trilogy.

Just got ME1 on the PC for cheap and started playing it again over the weekend. It's a shame they stripped so much of the role playing side of the game in 2 and 3; I forgot how awesome ME1 was.

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#18 dommeus
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[QUOTE="shalashaska88"]It will. For the wrong reasons.FrozenLiquid
This. When you mess up an ending, it doesn't matter what came before. It's like giving a girl the best sex she's ever had then farting in her face. You done f*cked up.

Unless she's into that sh*t.
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="shalashaska88"]It will. For the wrong reasons.dommeus
This. When you mess up an ending, it doesn't matter what came before. It's like giving a girl the best sex she's ever had then farting in her face. You done f*cked up.

Unless she's into that sh*t.

Maybe one in the entire world. Kinda like the dreman of weird sex.
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#20 Tikeio
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The best example of wasted potential ever. AAllxxjjnn

This.

Bioware kinda had something there with ME1 though.

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#21 TheEroica  Moderator
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It will be remembered as one if the most impprtant franchises thia generation... advancing the medium by light years.
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#22 campzor
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 . maybe
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#23 heretrix
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It has what matters great characters. I don't see how it could be forgotten. not to mention it was a pretty successful franchise.

If people can remember Alex Kidd, I'm sure characters like Garrus, Shepard and Tali won't be easily forgotten.

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#24 FrozenLiquid
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Just got ME1 on the PC for cheap and started playing it again over the weekend. It's a shame they stripped so much of the role playing side of the game in 2 and 3; I forgot how awesome ME1 was.

dommeus

Awesome? Thought it was the worst of the lot.

I'm currently playing it too, and it's as rote as when I first remembered it. Repetitive mission design, rip-off story pretending to be utterly original, and clunky action RPG mechanics. I'm honestly finding it a chore to play through.

I remember when I first played ME2, expecting the worst. I knew most of the RPG elements were stripped down, but boy was the game more playable than ever. I found the missions more engaging too and just the whole experience generally enjoyable. I wonder if it'll happen again when I go through it later on.

I think Mass Effect gets to most people through appeal to emotion, rather than good design or anything truly noble. Bioware always bangs on about the 'personal story', and Bioware always makes sure you get to bang someone in one of their games, so I think that's what people lap up the most, irregardless of the true quality of the games.

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#25 Barbariser
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Given how significant it is to the gaming community today, I have no doubt that people are still going to be talking about it for at least a decade from now.

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#26 haziqonfire
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It's probably the best sci-fi type video game trilogy ever. The universe BioWare created with Mass Effect is amazing, there's so much when you go in and read up about it.
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Absolutely, the controversy if anything only solidifies that.
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#28 kaealy
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I'll probably just remember the awful ending and biowares tries to retcon it back into something that is at least plausible. I've already forgot most of the third game and will probably never return to play it again even though I played through ME1 and ME2 at least 3-4 times.
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Meh, better games shall come.

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#30 LustForSoul
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It's a classic for me, that's for sure.
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#31 Bread_or_Decide
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What people remember the most is how a story ends. ME will be remembered for it's awful ending more than anything else.

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#32 ZombeGoast
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I'll remember the series being a disaster. The first game being the best, second being the worst and 3rd having a horrible ending.

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#33 skrat_01
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It will be remembered but not for all the right things unfortunately. It's not a landmark game, not a ground breaking game either. However it does mark an important contribution to games and gaming in delivering a spanning epic, with fairly complex delivery for a mainstream triple A title.
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#34 drinkerofjuice
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The best example of wasted potential ever. AAllxxjjnn
Bingo. It was the engine that could, but didn't.

I still like the series though, all things considered, but it only fulfilled about half its potential.

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#35 SecretPolice
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Must preface by saying I have yet to play ME3 but with that said, I do think it will be remembered fondly and as a classic and much like a movie trilogy, the first one will be considered the best one. :o

Well, at least by those of us who know better. :twisted: :P

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#36 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="dommeus"].

Just got ME1 on the PC for cheap and started playing it again over the weekend. It's a shame they stripped so much of the role playing side of the game in 2 and 3; I forgot how awesome ME1 was.

FrozenLiquid

Awesome? Thought it was the worst of the lot.

I'm currently playing it too, and it's as rote as when I first remembered it. Repetitive mission design, rip-off story pretending to be utterly original, and clunky action RPG mechanics. I'm honestly finding it a chore to play through.

I remember when I first played ME2, expecting the worst. I knew most of the RPG elements were stripped down, but boy was the game more playable than ever. I found the missions more engaging too and just the whole experience generally enjoyable. I wonder if it'll happen again when I go through it later on.

I think Mass Effect gets to most people through appeal to emotion, rather than good design or anything truly noble. Bioware always bangs on about the 'personal story', and Bioware always makes sure you get to bang someone in one of their games, so I think that's what people lap up the most, irregardless of the true quality of the games.

I'd argue Mass Effect is still yet to do its own formula well. ME1 had a huge sum of problems, but there were some major advantages it had over the second, and I don't think those are merely the mechanical changes and whatnot. Couldn't agree more about the appeal to emotion though, as far as I'm concerned that and spending considerable focus on the supporting cast are their most notable traits, and the major reason they are fawned over. Which quite frankly has almost become a parody of itself, that husbando and waifu centric writing is such a damn big thing in games that are about fighting against a greater threat, against the odds and shooting aliens or people in the face - or chopping up bad hobgoblins. Dissonance is the word, I can't say they're 'honest' games at all.
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#37 csftar
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eh.... Not by me.

it's an enjoyable series, without anything special(for me).

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#38 osan0
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oh i think itll be remembered allright but for all the wrong reasons. basically due to the last 5 mins it seems many will remember the entire trilogy as just one big misfire. which is unfortunate as they were 3 great game right until the last 5 mins of ME3 imho. crappy RPGs mind (by ME2 i just set everything to autolevel...the RPG sides of the games, or what was left of them, just became a completly pointless nuisance.). personally i didnt despise the ending either....it just was a bit of a let down. like LOST and BSG a bit, its a series that just ended on a cop out ending as the writers accidentally wrote themselves into a corner they couldnt get out of in a practical sense. i see myself going back again around the end of the year to take a different path.
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#40 FIipMode
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After replaying ME 1. A what could have been, a waste of a good franchise with a terrible conclusion. Should have been expanding and improving on the exploration and such from the first game, instead of turning it third person shooter heavy.

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ME3 was the game that stopped me from buying more BW games, considering the ending, dragon age and swtor..
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#42 EliteM0nk3y
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It will be remembered as a great sci fi series that totally was ruined in 10 minutes
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#43 N30F3N1X
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It will be remembered as a "damn, if only..." franchise undoubtely, so option 3.

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#44 Slashless
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Of course it'll be remembered. Painful memories just don't go away, it takes time and therapy. For those who actually enjoyed the series may I suggest another form of therapy...

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#45 NAPK1NS
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I am so, so confident that in 10 years no one will be talking about the original trilogy. Mass Effect only refined characteristics of other RPGs and BioWare's own RPGs (specifically the dialogue system). It didn't do anything bold or groundbreaking for the genere, it just did things that were done other places.
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I am so, so confident that in 10 years no one will be talking about the original trilogy. Mass Effect only refined characteristics of other RPGs and BioWare's own RPGs (specifically the dialogue system). It didn't do anything bold or groundbreaking for the genere, it just did things that were done other places. NAPK1NS
It was groundbreaking game in personalized storytelling.

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#47 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]I am so, so confident that in 10 years no one will be talking about the original trilogy. Mass Effect only refined characteristics of other RPGs and BioWare's own RPGs (specifically the dialogue system). It didn't do anything bold or groundbreaking for the genere, it just did things that were done other places. AdrianWerner

It was groundbreaking game in personalized storytelling.

Really? It didn't do anything particularly different from any previous cRPG ever made, including Bioware's own stuff. If it didn't anything particularly unique, it decided to toss out most RPG elements in favour of third person shooting with choose-your-own-path dialogue options.
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#48 LegatoSkyheart
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Only Mass Effect 2 will be remembered as that Final Fantays 7 that all 11 people think.

But as a Series it will be a "What Could have Been."

It could have been a Lord of The Rings Space Opera, but now it's just a Matrix "Lady or the Tiger".

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#49 GhoX
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There were many games before Mass Effect which allow your choices to carry over from game to game, albeit they are mostly classics from BioWare anyway. Just like those classics the Mass Effect series will be remembered for a very long time. I'm expecting to see plenty of Mass Effect memes in the coming years.
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#50 NAPK1NS
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]I am so, so confident that in 10 years no one will be talking about the original trilogy. Mass Effect only refined characteristics of other RPGs and BioWare's own RPGs (specifically the dialogue system). It didn't do anything bold or groundbreaking for the genere, it just did things that were done other places. AdrianWerner

It was groundbreaking game in personalized storytelling.

No. Mass Effect borrows elements from all kinds of games and tapes them together. Neverwinter Nights, KOTOR, Black and White 2... elements of all these games are found in Mass Effect. It's a collaboration not a revolution.