Will The Xbox 360 Hold Back Metal Gear Solid Rising?

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#1 erglesmergle
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Will the 360 version of MGS Rising hold back the PS3 version? PC version will be the best. Yes we all know that.

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#2 FriendlyGaimz
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I think any game between the PS3 and the 360 could have been done better as a PS3 exclusive because if Blu Ray, guaranteed HDD and better tech.
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#3 Anjunaddict
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What do you mean had trouble? MGS4 was 31GB, surely a dual layer blu ray is 50GB
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#4 bigboss5ak
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Well seeing as rising already looks 20 times better than mgs4 graphically its already on the right track.
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#5 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I don't think so, so long as they don't use uncompressed audio and what not. Compression techniques are terrific now-a-days so it shouldn't be too big of a problem, and if it is, just go with multiple DVDs like ME2, or FF13.
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#6 Chris_Williams
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if metal gear rising doesn't support move then i'm going to blame the 360

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#7 erglesmergle
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What do you mean had trouble? MGS4 was 31GB, surely a dual layer blu ray is 50GBAnjunaddict

Well Im just going by what the dev team said.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/856/856239p1.html

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#8 FIipMode
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Do we even know how big Rising is?
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#9 Chris_Williams
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Well seeing as rising already looks 20 times better than mgs4 graphically its already on the right track.bigboss5ak
man your funny, when rising wins graphics of the year like mgs4 did then i'll believe you

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#10 erglesmergle
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Do we even know how big Rising is? FIipMode

No, but sequels should get better and better.

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#11 AtariKidX
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No........
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#13 hexashadow13
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Multiple DVDs for the win?
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#14 93soccer
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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Well seeing as rising already looks 20 times better than mgs4 graphically its already on the right track.Chris_Williams

man your funny, when rising wins graphics of the year like mgs4 did then i'll believe you

Isnt it coming out next year along with Crysis 2? Yeaa...somehow I dont see MGS:R winning any graphics awards
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#15 Gxgear
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Well that's probably going to be the go-to excuse when the game fails to meet hype.

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#16 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Well seeing as rising already looks 20 times better than mgs4 graphically its already on the right track.Chris_Williams

man your funny, when rising wins graphics of the year like mgs4 did then i'll believe you

MGS4 is 2 years old, and wasn't even impressive looking in 2008 (bar character models) so of course Rising will look better.
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#17 heretrix
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Will the 360 hold back MGS: Rising?

Absolutely. And when I say that I mean no.

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#18 FriendlyGaimz
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[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

What do you guys think? I think so. If they had trouble fitting MGS4 on one dual layer Blu-Ray disc, how can they fit Rising on 2 DVDs?

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I think any game between the PS3 and the 360 could have been done better as a PS3 exclusive because if Blu Ray, guaranteed HDD and better tech. FriendlyGaimz
:lol: Gotta love cows

Sorry? It's common sense, not fanboyism. I'd say " :lol: Gotta love lemmings " to you if you believe otherwise.
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#19 FriendlyGaimz
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Well seeing as rising already looks 20 times better than mgs4 graphically its already on the right track.Anjunaddict

man your funny, when rising wins graphics of the year like mgs4 did then i'll believe you

MGS4 is 2 years old, and wasn't even impressive looking in 2008 (bar character models) so of course Rising will look better.

Ya it looked so unimpressive it won best graphics from practically every major gaming website everywhere :P Conspiracy? Or maybe we aint giving the game the credit it deserves?
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#20 SapSacPrime
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It will probably look and run better on the 360 seeing as its a multiplat now :P.

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#21 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] man your funny, when rising wins graphics of the year like mgs4 did then i'll believe you

FriendlyGaimz

MGS4 is 2 years old, and wasn't even impressive looking in 2008 (bar character models) so of course Rising will look better.

Ya it looked so unimpressive it won best graphics from practically every major gaming website everywhere :P Conspiracy? Or maybe we aint giving the game the credit it deserves?

Every website? I thought it was only GS. Anyway, regardless, I still didn't find the graphics impressive at all (other than character models). Too many muddy textures, and Act 2 was extremely ugly.

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#22 jsh020
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guys there isnt a big graphical difference for the systems. they are more often then naught identical for each game. remember crysis 2's gameplay isonly 360 versions and pc. mgs riseing doesnt look that graphicaly powered it just it comes down to space on the discs. if mgs 4 came out on 360 it would be 3 discs long and not jst impossible to play

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#23 coasterguy65
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You do realize that most of what took up the space on the BD on MGS4 was the 75+ minutes of cut scenes, and the fact that there have to be multiple copies of the game on the disc to make up for the slowness of the PS3's BD drive right? Not to mention the uncompressed audio.

So as long as they don't try to jam 75+ plus minutes of cut scenes on the disc Rising will be fine on a DVD or 2. Sorry Cows no Snake cooking eggs on this one.

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#24 AnaleFaust
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:lol: The Xbox 360 is "lastgenisizing" Metal Gear Solid: Rising. :lol: And they moan at hermits for saying consoles consolize PC games. :lol: :lol:

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#25 aia89
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why is it always the 360 that holds back the ps3? bluray has just a bigger storage than a dvd 9, but it can't guarantee better graphics, it's a support not a graphics card.

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#26 bigboss5ak
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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Well seeing as rising already looks 20 times better than mgs4 graphically its already on the right track.Chris_Williams

man your funny, when rising wins graphics of the year like mgs4 did then i'll believe you

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#27 bigboss5ak
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Like i was saying its 20 times better

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#28 AnaleFaust
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Like i was saying its 20 times better

bigboss5ak

Rising does indeed looking better going by those screenshots.

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#29 tagyhag
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If anything, the 360 and PS3 will hold back the PC version. :P
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#30 erglesmergle
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Raiden needs a new haircut. This is MGS. Not Final Fantasy. Get rid of the Goku pretty boy hair please. Anyone notice Riaden has a headband covering his left eye?

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#31 finalstar2007
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Hopefully it dosent effect the PS3 version. this will sell more on Ps3 just like FFXIII. if i dont get MGS4 soon rising might be the first MGS game i play

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#32 Mercenary848
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I was not impressed with the game in the first place.

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#33 HAZE-Unit
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Like i was saying its 20 times better

bigboss5ak

it's not 20 times better :|

it's only 19 times better, I've just counted.

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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Well seeing as rising already looks 20 times better than mgs4 graphically its already on the right track.Chris_Williams

man your funny, when rising wins graphics of the year like mgs4 did then i'll believe you

lol mgs4 won graphics becasue 1 eiter sony paid for it or gamespot are just mgs fans. the game is very ugly graphicaly. it is not even hd and it is just plane and colorless. anyways even alan wake looks better than mgs4.

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#35 WilliamRLBaker
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I think its more like the ps3 will hold the 360 version back. It would be a much better game if it were 360 exclusive.

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#36 lightleggy
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kojima is not working on it...'nuff said
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#37 HAZE-Unit
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I think its more like the ps3 will hold the 360 version back. It would be a much better game if it were 360 exclusive.

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Proof or you are lying.

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#38 erglesmergle
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I think its more like the ps3 will hold the 360 version back. It would be a much better game if it were 360 exclusive.

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Sorry but thats actually scientifically impossible.

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#39 pc-ps360
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I think its more like the ps3 will hold the 360 version back. It would be a much better game if it were 360 exclusive.

HAZE-Unit

Proof or you are lying.

actually both ps3 and 360 are holding back the pc version. if this was an pc exclusive it would of been epic. proof well forget crysis resident evil 5 on pc when max out looks better than anything on anyconsole

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#40 finalstar2007
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I think its more like the ps3 will hold the 360 version back. It would be a much better game if it were 360 exclusive.

WilliamRLBaker

Thats a good one man. just like FFXIII this will sell some copies here and there on 360, same with PC and will sell tons of copies on the PS3

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#41 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I think its more like the ps3 will hold the 360 version back. It would be a much better game if it were 360 exclusive.

pc-ps360

Proof or you are lying.

actually both ps3 and 360 are holding back the pc version. if this was an pc exclusive it would of been epic. proof well forget crysis resident evil 5 on pc when max out looks better than anything on anyconsole

nothing could hold back the overrated graphics of the pc version, with better specs than both consoles, how is it gonna be held back?

oh and don't forget mod tools and stuff.

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#42 erglesmergle
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I think its more like the ps3 will hold the 360 version back. It would be a much better game if it were 360 exclusive.

pc-ps360

Proof or you are lying.

actually both ps3 and 360 are holding back the pc version. if this was an pc exclusive it would of been epic. proof well forget crysis resident evil 5 on pc when max out looks better than anything on anyconsole

PC games look better than console games? I had no clue man.

I think pretty much everyone who replied knew this thread was about the 360 and PS3.

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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]

Like i was saying its 20 times better

HAZE-Unit

it's not 20 times better :|

it's only 19 times better, I've just counted.

19.1 to be exact. Geez, get it right man. :P

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#44 pc-ps360
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i probaly getting this game for pc because i want the best version but this will be very funny at gamesopt SW if lensoftruth posted that the game looks better on 360 than ps3. i wonder what kind of damage control will happen

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#45 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]

Like i was saying its 20 times better

Stevo_the_gamer

it's not 20 times better :|

it's only 19 times better, I've just counted.

19.1 to be exact. Geez, get it right man. :P

no no just pixel count the hair, Im right on this one lol.

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#46 HAZE-Unit
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i probaly getting this game for pc because i want the best version but this will be very funny at gamesopt SW if lensoftruth posted that the game looks better on 360 than ps3. i wonder what kind of damage control will happen

pc-ps360

no damage control it's the usual Kojima devs are lazy if they did that to the PS3 version.

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#47 Locutus_Picard
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The game will be gimped from the get-go. Thanks a lot M$!!! :(

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I think any game between the PS3 and the 360 could have been done better as a PS3 exclusive because if Blu Ray, guaranteed HDD and better tech. FriendlyGaimz
All Bluray does is add in more space on the disk for data. Multiple 360 games have made very good use of using multiple disks like Mass Effect 2 and such, so I doubt not having Bluray will hold it back. If anything they could do something like Forza 3 did or Fallout 3 Game of the Year and just have an install disk for some of the data. Most 360's out there have a hard drive and anyone who is picking up Metal Gear Solid Rising on the 360 I'm fairly sure will be a regular gamer and have a hard drive to save data onto. Again plenty of games have made use of multiple disks like that before. Better tech? In some ways yes, but you still have 360 games looking better than PS3 games when you talk about multiplatform games. Yes a game can look alot better being exclusive because then the developer has to only worry about one platform instead of developing it on multiple platforms, thus they will have more time to work with the dev kit and polish the game up. Perfect example of this would be Gran Turismo 5, just look at it on that over priced demo compared to now. The longer a developer can spend polishing a game, the better it'll look in the end. Neither console is holding the other back and any short comings of the game on any platform when compared to its counter parts is strictly put on the developer. Whether it be Square Enix for Final Fantasy XIII on the 360 or Platinum Games for Bayonetta on the PS3, the hardware isn't to blame.
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#49 Anjunaddict
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Raiden needs a new haircut. This is MGS. Not Final Fantasy. Get rid of the Goku pretty boy hair please. Anyone notice Riaden has a headband covering his left eye?

erglesmergle

lol actually I didn't. Ridiculous.

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#50 erglesmergle
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[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"]I think any game between the PS3 and the 360 could have been done better as a PS3 exclusive because if Blu Ray, guaranteed HDD and better tech. kejigoto
Yes a game can look alot better being exclusive because then the developer has to only worry about one platform instead of developing it on multiple platforms, thus they will have more time to work with the dev kit and polish the game up.

So why dont 360 exclusives look better than PS3 exclusives? According to the pattern PS3 exclusives > 360 exclusives. PS3 multiplat < 360 multiplat.