UC4 runs at 900p in 2016 and that too by the creme de le creme Sony devs Naughty Duds which are revered by cows to be the technical wizards surpassing every other dev in the world
Someone is really dumb as f***!
May i ask why Lara's skin looks like she is made of plastic?
Plastic surgery of course. Game is so much more detailed than UC4.
A sewed fact to make an argument that really isnt there
There is no argument. It is a 900p game no matter how much cows want this to be overlooked when they call every other dev lazy and praising Naughty Duds for their technical superiority.
Choosing to ignore Uncharted 4's 1080p single player is like choosing to ignore ROTR's PC visuals. You're only doing it because it is convenient to your narrative. The multiplayer component of UC4 plays at 900p, yes, but Uncharted isn't CoD, people don't play it for the multiplayer, they play it for the single player campaign. And the fact remains that the campaign runs at 1080p. Your propensity to ignore facts is baffling, especially seeing as you seem to have a love for "facts", as is evidenced by your posts in this thread.
Of course, there's no point saying just about anything that requires an IQ of over 20 to be understood since, you know, you're incapable of understanding any of it.
I'm calling you stupid in case that was hard for you to understand.
UC4 runs at 900p in 2016 and that too by the creme de le creme Sony devs Naughty Duds which are revered by cows to be the technical wizards surpassing every other dev in the world. Currently neither it's SP is locked at 30 neither the MP runs at 60 without drops; especially after Naughty Duds hyping UC4 to be a 60 FPS marvel. Deal with it.
Whether people play a certain mode is not the point of the discussion. We are judging technical merits of a game and last I check MP is an integral component of UC4 and it will be accounted for. Now I wouldn't call you an idiot because that would be redundant since you are already a cow.
And in case you missed it, yes UC4 is 900p game and that's indeed a fact.
Dont know about you but this analysis of UC4 E3 still in development is pretty much flat out 30fps 1080p with a ton of shit going on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIx81srGliY
By your own logic of garbing mp part as intergal, some one can grap sp part and claim fact that UC4 is one of the few steler 1080p 30fps lock performer, unlike ROTR xboxone for example. Ofcourse PC ROTR will be the best. They were aiming for 60 at this point 1080p 30fps on single player is nothing to them. everything points to flat out 30fps 1080p single player.
Alright I will admit SP runs at rock solid 30. I haven't seen that analysis before. To me it always looked like the frames dropped during the chase scene in an alley. Fair enough.
That is what's happening around. Cows just ignore the MP part and want it to be overlooked and it's me that is reminding them of the MP portion of the game. That's the exact reason you have so many replies trying to NOT call it a 900p game because it doesn't fit their agenda.
@imt558 said:
UC4 runs at 900p in 2016 and that too by the creme de le creme Sony devs Naughty Duds which are revered by cows to be the technical wizards surpassing every other dev in the world
Someone is really dumb as f***!
May i ask why Lara's skin looks like she is made of plastic?
It's your cow eyes. And may I know why UC4 looks like an ugly imitation of a cartoon?
Hmm, unless, "surpass" is only talking about in resolution and framerate then there is no way UC4 can't surpass it. It's a silly comparison considering this is a cross gen title compared to a current gen one but looking at some of the comments it's typical system wars some people took this seriously.
A few things, simply increasing resolution and frame rate do not make graphics surpass that of another game, if that was the case pong at 4K running 10,000fps would have better graphics than all games ever. Second, is that picture supposed to be impressive? It's a cross gen 360 game and it shows. Nothing in that picture is more impressive than games already out now other than maybe resolution, current gen xbox one games like Quantum Break destroys it.
Can't believe anyone actually bit on this because it shows a lot of desperation and or bias to think Rise of the Tomb raider is even on the same level as UC4.
Here is Horizon Zero Dawn, an open world PS4 exclusive with a female lead to have fun with comparing to Tomb Raider since people are so obsessed with trying to out do Uncharted.
A better comparison and even with Horizon being open world game imo
This is Rise of the Tomb Raider on PC at 4k
And this is Uncharted 4
Right click to view both at full resolution.
Any questions
Odd that you'd run with the RotTR screenshot you choose (which imo, is better than the Uncharted one you used, did you actually look at them first?) and not one of Lara
I wonder how much of the scenery will be reflected in Nathan Drakes eyes?
Horizon is not going to come close to matching this, stop being silly. Just look at the clothing textures to start with
It's odd that I compare a male face against a male face? Dude you are trying too hard to make a controversy and failing. Notice that I choose a female character to compare against Lara? Yeah!
Also, "Horizon is not going to be close to matching this, stop being silly" Umm here are some pictures of Horizon, a open world game in which everything you see you can explore vs the very linear Rise of the Tomb Raider you are trying to praise so hard here.
Indeed someone is being silly and it's you. Thru PC Rise of the Tomb Raider has higher resolution and a few better textures than it's xbox one counterpart and that's about it as far as graphical impressiveness for a game that came out last year and made no splashed on the graphical or technical forefront of gaming.
This thread is nothing but a few xbox and PC fans showing extreme desperation and jealousy trying to knock the new Uncharted with a game that's out and made no real headlines other than failing to chart on NDP.
No one, outside of the bubble of system wars fanboys where any argument is a good argument, would take this delusional argument seriously. Suggesting that I am "silly" for stating that an up resed version of a last year cross gen game won't complete with a true current gen game is where you lost all credibility. You went full fanboy.
@casharmy: Yet you still proceed to post images and a gif that's less detailed than any of the Tomb Raider images posted previously.
I'll play all three of the games mentioned when they release, so I guess I win whatever the final outcome but blindly defending a game because it's a PlayStation exclusive is very silly. Stop being such a fanboy and open your eyes.
@casharmy: Yet you still proceed to post images and a gif that's less detailed than any of the Tomb Raider images posted previously.
I'll play all three of the games mentioned when they release, so I guess I win whatever the final outcome but blindly defending a game because it's a PlayStation exclusive is very silly. Stop being such a fanboy and open your eyes.
Something I never did so that proves it's you who is blindly bashing trying to downplay because "playstation".
My argument had nothing to do with playstatation and I even mentioned that even "current gen" XBOX ONE games like Quantum Break are better than ROTTR so there goes your silly "playstation" theory and argument. You need check my first post because the nonsense you have here only proves you are desperate to say something blah blah blah playstation and run with it.
@casharmy said:
Hmm, unless, "surpass" is only talking about in resolution and framerate then there is no way UC4 can't surpass it. It's a silly comparison considering this is a cross gen title compared to a current gen one ..
A few things, simply increasing resolution and frame rate do not make graphics surpass that of another game...current genxbox one games like Quantum Break destroys it.
blindly defending a game because it's a PlayStation exclusive is very silly.
Fail
Might need to take your own advice instead of making desperate arguments that proves that things you say are based on nothing but bias.
The points of my argument had nothing to do with this being exclusive or for Playststion but it's clear these factors have significant value for your argument and I am not surprised.
Who's been hyping up Rise of the Tomb Raiders graphics in the first place? I mean it looks nice, but its not exactly mind blowing. Uncharted 4 is going to handily destroy TR in the visual department.
He knows it damn well but just wants to confuse new comers with the MP's resolution, that's pure pathetic really. No one is fooling for that lie.
@KillzoneSnake said:
I think only the multiplayer is. SP with have better graphics and 1080
lol UC4 runs in 900p in 2016 and that too by creme de le creme devs Naughty Duds. Deal with it.
All of which begs the question: could these new consoles run Crysis 3? Ryse delivers the full suite of CryEngine features with excellent image quality and it's still just a launch title. Given the experience of working on such a product, we have little doubt that Crytek could produce a Crysis Trilogyof sorts for next-generation consoles with few compromises.
Well, it's no wonder when you consider that 900pStation comprises of cheap ass tablet CPU and GPU barely matching a 570 from 2010.
Careful, mid-range 7850 slightly beats Fermi GTX 480 and mid-range Kelper 660/660 Ti. The old 6970 is still holding it's own.
PS4's GPU is slightly above 7850.
In most benchmarks 7850 and 570 performs in the same ballpark and besides I trust Capcom when they consider 570 to be equivalent to that of the 900pStation.
Your most benchmark includes last gen game engines that doesn't saturate complex compute and Fermi driver optimisations are in legacy status. Further more, Rise of Tomb Raider XBO is one of the few games with Async compute enabled.
Fermi is an aging GPU, As for delivering cutting edge game engines, CrapCom is not one of them.
Radeon HD R7-265 is the closest GPU to PS4's GPU. CPU can influence the final frame rate results.
Radeon HD R7-265 = 16 CU at 900 Mhz, 1.89 TFLOPS, 179 GB/s memory bandwidth.
PS4's GPU = 18 CU at 800Mhz, 1.84 TFLOPS, 176 GB/s memory bandwidth.
Radeon HD R7-265 Mantle beats GeForce GTX 580 and 570.
60 fps target would have reduced the resolution for lower tier GPUs.
NVIDIA Fermi is facing another NVIDIA RSX/Geforce 7 situation when modern compute features are gimping the older GPU.
@casharmy: Yet you still proceed to post images and a gif that's less detailed than any of the Tomb Raider images posted previously.
I'll play all three of the games mentioned when they release, so I guess I win whatever the final outcome but blindly defending a game because it's a PlayStation exclusive is very silly. Stop being such a fanboy and open your eyes.
Something I never did so that proves it's you who is blindly bashing trying to downplay because "playstation".
My argument had nothing to do with playstatation and I even mentioned that even "current gen" XBOX ONE games like Quantum Break are better than ROTTR so there goes your silly "playstation" theory and argument. You need check my first post because the nonsense you have here only proves you are desperate to say something blah blah blah playstation and run with it.
@casharmy said:
Hmm, unless, "surpass" is only talking about in resolution and framerate then there is no way UC4 can't surpass it. It's a silly comparison considering this is a cross gen title compared to a current gen one ..
A few things, simply increasing resolution and frame rate do not make graphics surpass that of another game...current genxbox one games like Quantum Break destroys it.
blindly defending a game because it's a PlayStation exclusive is very silly.
Fail
Might need to take your own advice instead of making desperate arguments that proves that things you say are based on nothing but bias.
The points of my argument had nothing to do with this being exclusive or for Playststion but it's clear these factors have significant value for your argument and I am not surprised.
To end I'll quote you.
"Stop being such a fanboy."
I fail to see how I'm being a fanboy, other than I completely disagree with you. Nothing you have posted shows that Uncharted 4 or Horizon is or will be graphically superior to Rise of the Tomb Raider on PC, in fact your posts have shown the exact opposite.
I ran a small test with my wife, who is a graphics design artist with an Art Degree from Glasgow School of Art (i.e. she looks at art work and detail), does not play games at all and frankly couldn't care less about them. I showed her all the screenshots posted without any bias or attempt to influence her thoughts on which images were better. All I done was open the images and let her study them. Her conclusion, they are all fantastic but the Uncharted 4 characters (images on the left) look flat and lifeless in comparison to Tomb Raider (images on the right), she thought the eyes in particular were soulless.
As for this cross gen nonsense, by your logic Crysis 3 on PC can not possibly have superior graphics to any current gen title, as that was available on PS3 and Xbox 360. Yet, it has still to be completely surpassed by any game released to date, how does that work? Do you honestly think the PC is getting the exact same textures, lighting, particle effects, AA etc. etc. as the Xbox 360 or even the Xbox One?
Will Uncharted 4 look better than RotTR on the Xbox one? Absolutely. Will it look better than it RotTR maxed out PC? Not a chance. As for Horizon, you're having a laugh.
Speaking of Rise of the Tomb Raiders, do you xbox users think that the game is worth buying since I have thought of buying it on pc once they release it on the 28th of january.
Don't know about your lem friends but good to know you finally accepted, yoou can't see shit.
My english is not so good, but i will try correct myself :
At least i'm not blind as those lems who can't see shit! Good? Good!
Nathan's skin is more natural than Lara's skin. Lara's skin is something like this one : Sorry dude, but Lara's skin looks like plastic
Lara's skin texture ( more like plastic ) is completely different compared to Nathan's ( more natural texture ). Your problem if you cant notice the difference :
As much as I love Tomb Raider, Uncharted always looked and played better. Crystal Dynamics is still working on this new TR engine so of course there's alot of room for improvement but Naughty Dog has already mastered theirs. And naturally Uncharted 4 will look better than at least the Xbox One version of Rise of the Tomb Raider but that's just because PS4 actually runs on true native 1080p. It just goes back to which system is stronger.
As much as I love Tomb Raider, Uncharted always looked and played better. Crystal Dynamics is still working on this new TR engine so of course there's alot of room for improvement but Naughty Dog has already mastered theirs. And naturally Uncharted 4 will look better than at least the Xbox One version of Rise of the Tomb Raider but that's just because PS4 actually runs on true native 1080p. It just goes back to which system is stronger.
while we pc gamers will enjoy rise of the tomb raider in 1440p or 4k
@GarGx1: The thing about art is that it's limited to perspective. Just because one deems a piece better doesn't actually mean that it is. Naughty Dog and Tomb Raider use two different art styles. Tomb Raider focuses more on looking realistic while Naughty Dog uses a cartoonier take on real life. It works more on Naughty Dog's favor because they always accel with animation and fluidity. Tomb Raider might look more realistic, art style wise but the animation is much weaker than Uncharted and always has been. The rest just goes back to specs which PS4 already has Xbox One beat at least. Maybe not PC though but that's not Naughty Dog's fault.
As much as I love Tomb Raider, Uncharted always looked and played better. Crystal Dynamics is still working on this new TR engine so of course there's alot of room for improvement but Naughty Dog has already mastered theirs. And naturally Uncharted 4 will look better than at least the Xbox One version of Rise of the Tomb Raider but that's just because PS4 actually runs on true native 1080p. It just goes back to which system is stronger.
while we pc gamers will enjoy rise of the tomb raider in 1440p or 4k
That implies every PC gamers has a 1440p\4k monitor
As much as I love Tomb Raider, Uncharted always looked and played better. Crystal Dynamics is still working on this new TR engine so of course there's alot of room for improvement but Naughty Dog has already mastered theirs. And naturally Uncharted 4 will look better than at least the Xbox One version of Rise of the Tomb Raider but that's just because PS4 actually runs on true native 1080p. It just goes back to which system is stronger.
while we pc gamers will enjoy rise of the tomb raider in 1440p or 4k
That implies every PC gamers has a 1440p\4k monitor
As much as I love Tomb Raider, Uncharted always looked and played better. Crystal Dynamics is still working on this new TR engine so of course there's alot of room for improvement but Naughty Dog has already mastered theirs. And naturally Uncharted 4 will look better than at least the Xbox One version of Rise of the Tomb Raider but that's just because PS4 actually runs on true native 1080p. It just goes back to which system is stronger.
while we pc gamers will enjoy rise of the tomb raider in 1440p or 4k
That implies every PC gamers has a 1440p\4k monitor
Just so you know, that image of Drake that imt558 showed is the real in game model. PS4 really is that strong. Naughty Dog never uses cgi cinemas for their games. Never has, never will. The PS4 is still a force to be reckoned with at least on consoles.
As much as I love Tomb Raider, Uncharted always looked and played better. Crystal Dynamics is still working on this new TR engine so of course there's alot of room for improvement but Naughty Dog has already mastered theirs. And naturally Uncharted 4 will look better than at least the Xbox One version of Rise of the Tomb Raider but that's just because PS4 actually runs on true native 1080p. It just goes back to which system is stronger.
while we pc gamers will enjoy rise of the tomb raider in 1440p or 4k
Running a last gen game in 1440p or 4K doesn't stop it from looking lastgen. ROTTR was made to also run on the 360 and it shows, no resolution bump or framerate bump will hide its flaws. In fact, they just make them more visible.
@thepclovingguy: We know about that already and no, nobody really cares what the maxed out PC's can do.
@MonsieurX said:
@thepclovingguy said:
@MonsieurX said:
@thepclovingguy said:
@killered3 said:
As much as I love Tomb Raider, Uncharted always looked and played better. Crystal Dynamics is still working on this new TR engine so of course there's alot of room for improvement but Naughty Dog has already mastered theirs. And naturally Uncharted 4 will look better than at least the Xbox One version of Rise of the Tomb Raider but that's just because PS4 actually runs on true native 1080p. It just goes back to which system is stronger.
while we pc gamers will enjoy rise of the tomb raider in 1440p or 4k
That implies every PC gamers has a 1440p\4k monitor
or you can just run it in dsr
That implies you have the hardware for that
thats not my problem if someone cant afford a reasonable pc, then they could just as well stick to console or just play minecraft.
As much as I love Tomb Raider, Uncharted always looked and played better. Crystal Dynamics is still working on this new TR engine so of course there's alot of room for improvement but Naughty Dog has already mastered theirs. And naturally Uncharted 4 will look better than at least the Xbox One version of Rise of the Tomb Raider but that's just because PS4 actually runs on true native 1080p. It just goes back to which system is stronger.
while we pc gamers will enjoy rise of the tomb raider in 1440p or 4k
Running a last gen game in 1440p or 4K doesn't stop it from looking lastgen. ROTTR was made to also run on the 360 and it shows, no resolution bump or framerate bump will hide its flaws. In fact, they just make them more visible.
You are forgetting that the pc version will also get additional graphical features over xbox one and xbox 360
Just so you know, that image of Drake that imt558 showed is the real in game model. PS4 really is that strong. Naughty Dog never uses cgi cinemas for their games. Never has, never will. The PS4 is still a force to be reckoned with at least on consoles.
No it really isn't, those images are from an art demo and promotional render for E3. Basically ND saying "look how great we are". It's even downgraded for the first 'in engine' demo they showed 2 years ago and as @lostrib said, we know how that turned out.
@thepclovingguy: We know about that already and no, nobody really cares what the maxed out PC's can do.
@MonsieurX said:
@thepclovingguy said:
or you can just run it in dsr
That implies you have the hardware for that
thats not my problem if someone cant afford a reasonable pc, then they could just as well stick to console or just play minecraft.
Then it's irrelevant to gloat about playing the game in 1440p\4k
I have a gtx 980ti and i am soon gonna buy a second one, so running rise of tomb raider in 4k wont be problem for me. My conclusion, it is not irrelevant.
Don't know about your lem friends but good to know you finally accepted, yoou can't see shit.
My english is not so good, but i will try correct myself :
At least i'm not blind as those lems who can't see shit! Good? Good!
Nathan's skin is more natural than Lara's skin. Lara's skin is something like this one : Sorry dude, but Lara's skin looks like plastic
Lara's skin texture ( more like plastic ) is completely different compared to Nathan's ( more natural texture ). Your problem if you cant notice the difference :
Rise of Tomb Raider's Lara was based from Camilla Luddington.
Sorry but when i first saw UC4 it was a jaw dropping experience overall visual wise. And before someone accuse me as a cow or something , wasnt only me. Thousands of people felt the same , youtubers also. Go watch some reactions.
Tomb was great/fantastic graphic wise but nothing as impressive as UC4 ... Now if you ask me Tomb on PC at max settings or modded vs UC4 , hmm then maybe it has a chance. But that freaking UC4 has so much detail in environments and physics and overall geometry and shit ... its fucking insane ! Its ridiculously insane actually for a console game.... I dont know , we will see. But if you ask me Tomb on X1 vs UC4 ... UC4 all day long.
Don't know about your lem friends but good to know you finally accepted, yoou can't see shit.
My english is not so good, but i will try correct myself :
At least i'm not blind as those lems who can't see shit! Good? Good!
Nathan's skin is more natural than Lara's skin. Lara's skin is something like this one : Sorry dude, but Lara's skin looks like plastic
Lara's skin texture ( more like plastic ) is completely different compared to Nathan's ( more natural texture ). Your problem if you cant notice the difference :
Rise of Tomb Raider's Lara was based from Camilla Luddington.
Don't know about your lem friends but good to know you finally accepted, yoou can't see shit.
My english is not so good, but i will try correct myself :
At least i'm not blind as those lems who can't see shit! Good? Good!
Nathan's skin is more natural than Lara's skin. Lara's skin is something like this one : Sorry dude, but Lara's skin looks like plastic
Lara's skin texture ( more like plastic ) is completely different compared to Nathan's ( more natural texture ). Your problem if you cant notice the difference :
Rise of Tomb Raider's Lara was based from Camilla Luddington.
We bang, ok?
My point is, there are smooth looking skin in real life which is influenced by DNA, diet and age. Age is influenced by DNA's telomere length. The fusion of Mother's and Father's reproductive cells resets the DNA's telomere length.
Then a "reasonable pc" can be whatever someone wants it to be?
No love, its what you want it to be, love.
You're the one criticizing people for not being able to afford a reasonable PC. So what's your definition?
a pc that is reasonable enough to run 4k of course, if you have a pc that cant run the game in for 4k then its not reasonable enough for 4k gaming, otherwise stick with 1080p or whatever.
Don't know about your lem friends but good to know you finally accepted, yoou can't see shit.
My english is not so good, but i will try correct myself :
At least i'm not blind as those lems who can't see shit! Good? Good!
Nathan's skin is more natural than Lara's skin. Lara's skin is something like this one : Sorry dude, but Lara's skin looks like plastic
Lara's skin texture ( more like plastic ) is completely different compared to Nathan's ( more natural texture ). Your problem if you cant notice the difference :
Rise of Tomb Raider's Lara was based from Camilla Luddington.
We bang, ok?
My point is, there are smooth looking skin in real life which is influenced by DNA, diet and age. Age is influenced by DNA's telomere length. The fusion of Mother's and Father's reproductive cells resets the DNA's telomere length.
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