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You know it isn't that bad when you have to exaggerate the state of the Wii to show a valid argument.DeathScape666yeah but people also exaggerate how good it is and im sick of the "it gets you off your ass" claim. I actually got it because of that and all i can say is no. just no.
I sure have. Nintendo has realised that they can make tons of money off a console with motion controls, many family games, and last gen graphics. I highly doubt nintendo would make a powerful console next gen, seeing how much sucess in terms of sales the Wii is having. I just give up. This was the worst holiday season for the Wii. They havent realeased an AAA title for like six months, and that is pathetic! There are so many great games for the 360 and PS3 right now, I might not even be able to name all of them.
*NOTE* This topic is centered on the Wii, not the DS!
No. After playing games on the PC for years, the Wii will be the first console I've owned in a long time. We'll see what happens next gen though. If MS comes out with decent controls on the next Xbox, I'll own it.[QUOTE="Justinge3"]I sure have. Nintendo has realised that they can make tons of money off a console with motion controls, many family games, and last gen graphics. I highly doubt nintendo would make a powerful console next gen, seeing how much sucess in terms of sales the Wii is having. I just give up. This was the worst holiday season for the Wii. They havent realeased an AAA title for like six months, and that is pathetic! There are so many great games for the 360 and PS3 right now, I might not even be able to name all of them.
*NOTE* This topic is centered on the Wii, not the DS!
garland51
I agree with you. I don't know about the rest of you, but in my honest opinion, either 360 or PS3 should have been the ones winning the war so far instead of the Wii. Here's why.
OK, when the Wii first started out, debuting, it looked like such a good console to buy. There were lots of hype about it, & such. Lots of people wanted one & are buying them out in stores, (which was back in November of 2006). Now, fast forward to present, 25 months later. The Wii hype is dying down. People admitting that they regretted their purchase of it, people admitting that their Wii's are collecting huge amounts of dust, & people admitting that they haven't even touched their Wii systems in about a year or so. What happened here? What happened to all of the hype that it used to have? Poof, gone, diminished. It's now nothing more than a has been, nothing more than a flash in the pan. Plus it looks like that people are starting to wake up about it. I'm quite surprised at the 40 million or so gullible Wii owners, thinking that they're going to get hardcore games. Instead, they've been fed on junk, except for 1st party games. The point is, the Wii ain't nothing more than a over-hyped, hardcore, gimmicky piece of junk. I'm so happy that I chose to buy myself a used 60 GB PS3 over it back in April earlier when I made the decision.
And what a right one that I made. Look at the reasons at what we're getting for a measly $250 for the Wii.
1.) Expensive Virtual Console prices for such great ancient games; not to mention the fact that you can't even carry nor WiiWare games onto another Wii console, which means that should your precious Wii system gets lost or stolen, or if you even sell the thing, then you're SOL in that category.
2.) Casual, Gimmicky crap that gets real old after a while (Wii Fit, party games, etc.)
3.) Horrible Graphics.
4.) Terrible online (Come on, a "friends code" system?).
5.) No Audio CD or DVD playback.
6.) Most of the 3rd party game selection are PS2 ports, as well as remakes of games that we already played ages ago. The good number of games comes from their 1st party games.
Now, both the 360 & PS3 has a real selection of 3rd party games, better graphics, better online, can play CD's, DVD's, & Blu-Ray discs (PS3 only). Plus just like Nintendo, they both have an excellent selection of 1st & 2nd party games. Plus the prices of what you buy things from X-Box Live (including from X-Box Live Arcade) & PSN doesn't exactly cost too much.
It's got to be real hard for those people who are Wii fanboys, especially when they don't either have a 360 or a PS3 to go along with it, or refuse to purchase either one of them. They can go ahead & stick to their precious console all they want, but they're the ones that'll be missing out on a lot of great stuff that are out on the 360 & PS3, & then they'll regret it in the long run. how Nintendo managed to succeed with over 40 million owners is beyond me. It is both ridiculous, & ludicrous.
my only Nintendo console was the NES & original Gameboy, since then i always got non-Nintendo consoles/handhelds and to this day i dont regret that...
Not saying Nintendo didnt release great consoles since SNES & Gameboy advance where great but somehow throughout the years i was always more interested in other consoles like Sega Mega Drive, Gamegear, PS1, Saturn, PS2, Dreamcast & currently enjoying PSP, PS3 & Xbox360...
NES: lots of first-party and third-party games which appeal to me.
SNES: lots of first-party and third-party games which appeal to me.
N64: zero first-party games that appeal to me, two or three third-party games.
Gamecube: zero first-party games that appeal to me, two or three third-party games.
Wii: zero first-party games that appeal to me, two or three third-party games.
I gave up on them when they struck me with the abyssmal failbox known as the N64. Nintendo should just stick to handhelds, it's the only thing they've done right for the last decade. Sure, I liked Sin & Punishment on the N64, Killer7 on the Gamecube, and No More Heroes on the Wii, but a few great games does not a great console make.
I haven't been a fan of Nintendo after the SNES era. I did buy their other consoles after SNES, but they weren't my primary console and were my least played system.Their games didn't appeal to me and I preferred their 3rd party games over their 1st. I regret buying a Wii which I bought as a impulse buy due to Wii Sports and Zelda TP thinking it would be good like WindWaker. Still if Nintendo are able to have games that appeal to me next gen I would buy their consoles.
there is a good holiday game, its called shaun white wii//rgame1well, im definately having buyer's remorse now.
[QUOTE="garland51"][QUOTE="Justinge3"]I sure have. Nintendo has realised that they can make tons of money off a console with motion controls, many family games, and last gen graphics. I highly doubt nintendo would make a powerful console next gen, seeing how much sucess in terms of sales the Wii is having. I just give up. This was the worst holiday season for the Wii. They havent realeased an AAA title for like six months, and that is pathetic! There are so many great games for the 360 and PS3 right now, I might not even be able to name all of them.
*NOTE* This topic is centered on the Wii, not the DS!
Faulttt
I agree with you. I don't know about the rest of you, but in my honest opinion, either 360 or PS3 should have been the ones winning the war so far instead of the Wii. Here's why.
OK, when the Wii first started out, debuting, it looked like such a good console to buy. There were lots of hype about it, & such. Lots of people wanted one & are buying them out in stores, (which was back in November of 2006). Now, fast forward to present, 25 months later. The Wii hype is dying down. People admitting that they regretted their purchase of it, people admitting that their Wii's are collecting huge amounts of dust, & people admitting that they haven't even touched their Wii systems in about a year or so. What happened here? What happened to all of the hype that it used to have? Poof, gone, diminished. It's now nothing more than a has been, nothing more than a flash in the pan. Plus it looks like that people are starting to wake up about it. I'm quite surprised at the 40 million or so gullible Wii owners, thinking that they're going to get hardcore games. Instead, they've been fed on junk, except for 1st party games. The point is, the Wii ain't nothing more than a over-hyped, hardcore, gimmicky piece of junk. I'm so happy that I chose to buy myself a used 60 GB PS3 over it back in April earlier when I made the decision.
And what a right one that I made. Look at the reasons at what we're getting for a measly $250 for the Wii.
1.) Expensive Virtual Console prices for such great ancient games; not to mention the fact that you can't even carry nor WiiWare games onto another Wii console, which means that should your precious Wii system gets lost or stolen, or if you even sell the thing, then you're SOL in that category.
2.) Casual, Gimmicky crap that gets real old after a while (Wii Fit, party games, etc.)
3.) Horrible Graphics.
4.) Terrible online (Come on, a "friends code" system?).
5.) No Audio CD or DVD playback.
6.) Most of the 3rd party game selection are PS2 ports, as well as remakes of games that we already played ages ago. The good number of games comes from their 1st party games.
Now, both the 360 & PS3 has a real selection of 3rd party games, better graphics, better online, can play CD's, DVD's, & Blu-Ray discs (PS3 only). Plus just like Nintendo, they both have an excellent selection of 1st & 2nd party games. Plus the prices of what you buy things from X-Box Live (including from X-Box Live Arcade) & PSN doesn't exactly cost too much.
It's got to be real hard for those people who are Wii fanboys, especially when they don't either have a 360 or a PS3 to go along with it, or refuse to purchase either one of them. They can go ahead & stick to their precious console all they want, but they're the ones that'll be missing out on a lot of great stuff that are out on the 360 & PS3, & then they'll regret it in the long run. how Nintendo managed to succeed with over 40 million owners is beyond me. It is both ridiculous, & ludicrous.
1. I wouldn't call them expensive, as they are all ten dollars or below. And remember, there are many new gamers on Wii that have never played the ****cs and so are happy to pay such a small price. If your Wii is stolen and you lose your VC games, it's no different then if they where actually games as the thief would have taken them none the less. Also, what would you do with the games if you where able to keep them after you sell the system that you can play them on?
2. You can't blame this on Nintendo. Their games that you call "Casual" are not aimed at you and the rest of the games are the idiotic third-parties fault, not Nintendos.
3. Only compared to the the 360 and PS3. Two gens back your jaw would have dropped at the Wiis visuals and you would have worshiped it. It depends on where you place graphics on your list of important things for a game. Personally, they are at the bottom of mine and as long as they look average or above i'm perfectly content. The only games with sub par graphics besides those meant to be that way (Wii sports and such) are again the idiotic third-parties fault.
4. You can still play with random people, it's just that you can't make friends with them or talk to them. I'm actually grateful for the latter and indifferent about the former. After all, you should have enough friends in real life that you don't have to play someone in europe or somewhere else. If i'm going to play with my freinds i just have them over at my house or vice versa. As for chatting, it can get annoying having to put down your controller and reach over to type every time you need something. Basics commands are enough, though once again Nintendo has yet to make games where such strategy and team work is needed online such as shooters. So once again we find the blame on the third-parties. As for voice chat, i'm rather thankful i don't have to listen to a curse word every other second.
5. So? It's a GAME console, not a multimedia device!
6. For the last time, that's the third parties fault, not Nintendos.
ok so we all admit that terrible 3rd party support is hurting the wii right? also the wii's "potential" had two years to be used to the fullest. if developers are that lazy then id at least want to be on the side of the field with developers who give a damn like MS and Sony are now. even ds has better 3rd party and that was obvious after its first year. its the wii's second year. if 09 doesnt deliver, then i can safely say nintendo is appealig too much to non-gamers and i wont buy their stuff because of that.sonicthemegamanIt takes a while for third parties )or companies in generall) to switch gears. Wii probably came unexpectedly for the 3rd parties and they were probably expecting to be able to port the PS360 games over instead of developing from scratch like they are now starting to do. I'm sure 3rd parties wanted to wait to see how the Wii did before investing money in it, and once they decided the Wii was worth while, it can take a couple of years for the quality games to come out. The Wii has only been around for what, 2 years? Year 1 was figuring it all out (strategy, how well the Wii can sustain sales to determine game budgets/potential proffits, what to make out of the motion controls, etc.). Year 2 and 3 is development. Year 3 and 4 (and beyond) are when the good 3rd party releases come out (and there are tons of good games that are comming soon). Give it time.
Wii
Got one,sold it a year after, hated the damn thing, xbox 360 ftw :)
DS
Best handheld out period hope they're will be a microsoft handheld in the near future
[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]ok so we all admit that terrible 3rd party support is hurting the wii right? also the wii's "potential" had two years to be used to the fullest. if developers are that lazy then id at least want to be on the side of the field with developers who give a damn like MS and Sony are now. even ds has better 3rd party and that was obvious after its first year. its the wii's second year. if 09 doesnt deliver, then i can safely say nintendo is appealig too much to non-gamers and i wont buy their stuff because of that.psychobrewIt takes a while for third parties )or companies in generall) to switch gears. Wii probably came unexpectedly for the 3rd parties and they were probably expecting to be able to port the PS360 games over instead of developing from scratch like they are now starting to do. I'm sure 3rd parties wanted to wait to see how the Wii did before investing money in it, and once they decided the Wii was worth while, it can take a couple of years for the quality games to come out. The Wii has only been around for what, 2 years? Year 1 was figuring it all out (strategy, how well the Wii can sustain sales to determine game budgets/potential proffits, what to make out of the motion controls, etc.). Year 2 and 3 is development. Year 3 and 4 (and beyond) are when the good 3rd party releases come out (and there are tons of good games that are comming soon). Give it time.eh PS2 was good the minute it came out. the fact that any company(including MS and Sony) needs 3 years to make a system worth while is enough to make me not wanna buy their stuff at all. on a side note, 360 and ps3 potential is already showing and developers have a nightmare developing for those systems. wii is techical inferior and you mean to tell me developers cant figure out how to work with the wii? something just doesnt seem right when people start "waiting" for good wii games.
eh PS2 was good the minute it came out. sonicthemegamanNot really. Most people would disagree with you on that.
ok so we all admit that terrible 3rd party support is hurting the wii right? also the wii's "potential" had two years to be used to the fullest. if developers are that lazy then id at least want to be on the side of the field with developers who give a damn like MS and Sony are now. even ds has better 3rd party and that was obvious after its first year. its the wii's second year. if 09 doesnt deliver, then i can safely say nintendo is appealig too much to non-gamers and i wont buy their stuff because of that.sonicthemegamanhow is the terrible 3rd party support hurting the wii its still no.1 and nintendo makes buckets of money the only one getting hurt by the lacking thirdparty games are thirdparties themselves and some PS3, 360 fanboys that claim to have bought the wii (which is highly suspectable..)
and look at the top 10 of the DS in november.. its still all nintendo titles with 2 to 3 titles from third parties (same with the wii)
how is the terrible 3rd party support hurting the wii its still no.1 and nintendo makes buckets of money the only one getting hurt by the lacking thirdparty games are thirdparties themselves and some PS3, 360 fanboys that claim to have bought the wii (which is highly suspectable..)[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]ok so we all admit that terrible 3rd party support is hurting the wii right? also the wii's "potential" had two years to be used to the fullest. if developers are that lazy then id at least want to be on the side of the field with developers who give a damn like MS and Sony are now. even ds has better 3rd party and that was obvious after its first year. its the wii's second year. if 09 doesnt deliver, then i can safely say nintendo is appealig too much to non-gamers and i wont buy their stuff because of that.farnham
and look at the top 10 of the DS in november.. its still all nintendo titles with 2 to 3 titles from third parties (same with the wii)
i dont listen to "top 10" BS. its like that time sephiroth was rated number 4 in top ten best video games villains with eggman and spector no where on that list.[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]eh PS2 was good the minute it came out. GundamGuy0Not really. Most people would disagree with you on that. i guess. launch titles had awful load times but, Crash: Wrath of Cortex is highly underrated and it was a launch title.
I already gave up on nintendo, but in my defense nintendo gave up on me first when they made the wii.grimhopeIf your not a fan of Great games Like Super Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Zelda: TP... then I guess they did give up on you. I guess you want more casual junk.
[QUOTE="grimhope"]I already gave up on nintendo, but in my defense nintendo gave up on me first when they made the wii.GundamGuy0If your not a fan of Great games Like Super Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Zelda: TP... then I guess they did give up on you. I guess you want more casual junk.
Hey, I gave up on Nintendo too this generation. I love Mario and Link, but seriously... The modem or connection, or whatever, was so awful I would spend far too long downloading those VC games and the connection would fail, try again... None of the great game franchises from the other consoles would come over, except for in bastardized versions. Completely sub-par tech in the Wii was my biggest dissapointment. I had a Gamecube! Then they sell me a Gamecube with motion controls and a sh1tty internet connection! I got sick of it. Got a 360 and I've loved it, though I will miss the first-party Nintendo games.
[QUOTE="grimhope"]I already gave up on nintendo, but in my defense nintendo gave up on me first when they made the wii.GundamGuy0If your not a fan of Great games Like Super Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Zelda: TP... then I guess they did give up on you. I guess you want more casual junk. if he wanted casual junk, he'd have a wii.
[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="grimhope"]I already gave up on nintendo, but in my defense nintendo gave up on me first when they made the wii.sonicthemegamanIf your not a fan of Great games Like Super Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Zelda: TP... then I guess they did give up on you. I guess you want more casual junk. if he wanted casual junk, he'd have a wii. Really that's the myth... Nintendo has put out more core games for the Wii then Casual games. Third Parties on the other hand... they are flooding it with casual junk.
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