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#51 drakecool1
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What the hell is wrong with ps3 fanboys on this site. Let me get this str8. When 360 outsells ps3 month after month for few years its no big deal but the minute ps3 outsells 360 by 20k -40k for couple of months than ps3 fanboys scream how its doom for 360.

Come back and talk to me when ps3 ousells 360 for 8-10 months in a row like 360 did with ps3 in recent history. Even then ps3 will still be in the last place.

360 does not need to make a come back if even with increased ps3 sales ps3 is still in the last place 2-3 years from now.

Its like in basketball for example. If you losing by 50 points it dont matter if you make 35 points in a row and other team zero. Fact still remains after the final seconds run out you still lost and other team won.

IFBB-PRO

only one thing you need to realise when the x360 was outselling the PS3 it was still losing in yearly sales and was $200 cheaper.

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#52 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="2mrw"] why do anyone think FFXIII will perform any better than SO4 or ToV (were x360 exclusives)?? it's a JRPG, they dun sell on the x360. 2mrw

outside of japan, what jrpg's have been selling well on either console?

what is the point of ur Q? that won't hurt my point nor prove JRPGs dun sell anymore...............at least we know PS3 is selling JRPGs in JPN, something that can't be said for the x360 in any region.

those other jrpgs not selling well has little to do with final fantasy not selling on the 360.

final fantasy is a MUCH MUCH bigger name in NA and europe than those other games you listed...

if ms advertises well enough, FF will have great sales...

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#53 Y2Jfan23
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Anyone else think drakecool is a troll hired by Sony?

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#55 IFBB-PRO
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[QUOTE="IFBB-PRO"]

What the hell is wrong with ps3 fanboys on this site. Let me get this str8. When 360 outsells ps3 month after month for few years its no big deal but the minute ps3 outsells 360 by 20k -40k for couple of months than ps3 fanboys scream how its doom for 360.

Come back and talk to me when ps3 ousells 360 for 8-10 months in a row like 360 did with ps3 in recent history. Even then ps3 will still be in the last place.

360 does not need to make a come back if even with increased ps3 sales ps3 is still in the last place 2-3 years from now.

Its like in basketball for example. If you losing by 50 points it dont matter if you make 35 points in a row and other team zero. Fact still remains after the final seconds run out you still lost and other team won.

drakecool1

only one thing you need to realise when the x360 was outselling the PS3 it was still losing in yearly sales and was $200 cheaper.

One thing you need to realize is NO MATTER HOW YOU SPIN IT , AFTER ITS ALL SAID AND DONE PS3 IS STILL IN LAST PLACE AND WILL CONTINUE BEING IN LAST PLACE UNTIL THE END EVEN IF KEPT OUTSELLING 360 BY 40K A MONTH. Lose is a lose and win is a win no IFS AND BUTS ABOUT IT!! Just like in court you either Guilty or Inocent, YES OR NO!

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#56 atarigrad
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http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5919

Is there any hope of 360 taking the lead again after halo odst and cod mw 2 failed for them ?

PS3 is the only system to have it's sales in the positive from last year by 52%.

Wii - 559, 314

DS - 493, 958

PS3 - 326, 920

X360 - 294, 377

PSP - 184, 308

PS2 - 69, 277

drakecool1

I smell a Fanboy!!!!

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#57 mazniq
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What the hell is wrong with ps3 fanboys on this site. Let me get this str8. When 360 outsells ps3 month after month for few years its no big deal but the minute ps3 outsells 360 by 20k -40k for couple of months than ps3 fanboys scream how its doom for 360.

Come back and talk to me when ps3 ousells 360 for 8-10 months in a row like 360 did with ps3 in recent history. Even then ps3 will still be in the last place.

360 does not need to make a come back if even with increased ps3 sales ps3 is still in the last place 2-3 years from now.

Its like in basketball for example. If you losing by 50 points it dont matter if you make 35 points in a row and other team zero. Fact still remains after the final seconds run out you still lost and other team won.

IFBB-PRO

You got it, 8-10 months, we'll talk then, don't worry.

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#58 IFBB-PRO
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Plus companies like EA and Activision not only look at how many consoles one company sold but how well games sell on that console!! Microsoft both spots covered. Not only is 360 a head of ps3 in consoles sales but software sells better on 360 as well.

For example. If I own EA Electronics It does me no good if ps3 outsells 360 three months in a row when 360 still has way higher game attach ratio. If im EA im gooing to lean more towards 360. Games sales = MONEY for EA.

As I said. Spint it all you want in the end its all about Bottom line and bottom line is ps3 is in last place. microsoft makes money of every 360 sold, software company could not be more happy with 360 since 360 has highest game attach ratio.

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#59 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="atarigrad"]

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5919

Is there any hope of 360 taking the lead again after halo odst and cod mw 2 failed for them ?

PS3 is the only system to have it's sales in the positive from last year by 52%.

Wii - 559, 314

DS - 493, 958

PS3 - 326, 920

X360 - 294, 377

PSP - 184, 308

PS2 - 69, 277

I smell a Fanboy!!!!

YOU'RE WINNER! :P
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#60 tbolt76
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I find it funny that for the better part of 3 years, while the PS3 was getting crushed, sales did not matter.

Now there are threads all over touting PS3 sales.

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#61 Y2Jfan23
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[QUOTE="tbolt76"]

I find it funny that for the better part of 3 years, while the PS3 was getting crushed, sales did not matter.

Now there are threads all over touting PS3 sales.

Cause since all the cows are already bored of their only game (UC2) they got nothing else to do.
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#62 IFBB-PRO
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I'm at complete loss at whyps3 fanboys celibrating so much.

Fact ps3 is still in last place

Fact software companies love 360 since 360 owners buy more games

Fact even if ps3 outsells 360 by 50thousand units for the next 2 years xbox360 will stilll be a head of ps3.

Plus you have to be insane to think ththat 360 wont outsell ps3 for few months in the next 10 months.

In order for ps3 to catch up ps3 will have to outsell 360 by huge numbers month after month for next few years. Winning by few thousand numbers a month wont cut it.

ps3 fanbosy celebrating is like guy who got knocked out in a fight celebrating that he landed couple of good punches before he got knocked out lol.

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#63 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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PS3 will most probably be in last place PS3 will most probably finish 2nd when it is discontinued PS3 won't become profitable by the end of this gen but Sony will make the majority of this up in how the PS3 has given bluray a secure future I don't think it's that bad considering: 1) PSN is not that far of Live despite Live having been set up 7 years earlier on the original Xbox, it has come a long way 2) Sales will be closer if you count the year headstart the 360 had on the PS3 3) Several new IPs have come out of the gen 4) Sony will have learnt some valuable lessons
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I find it funny that for the better part of 3 years, while the PS3 was getting crushed, sales did not matter.

Now there are threads all over touting PS3 sales.

tbolt76
Can you explain how Sony is getting so called crushed in sales over the past years? When PS3 was released there were already 8 million or so 360's sold. That same gap is there which in my mind would be even sales between the two. Maybe I am not seeing this right and just confused. I know the 1 year head start means nothing, look at the Wii, but haven't they both been selling the same since PS3 was released?
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#65 IFBB-PRO
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For sony to go from dominating video game market to being neck to neck with microsoft i would say thats a huge lose on sony's part.

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#66 metalgear-solid
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Did you really expect two of the most Overrated games this generations to make a difference. Those games aren't worth anything.

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#67 tbolt76
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[QUOTE="tbolt76"]

I find it funny that for the better part of 3 years, while the PS3 was getting crushed, sales did not matter.

Now there are threads all over touting PS3 sales.

jimmarko21876
Can you explain how Sony is getting so called crushed in sales over the past years? When PS3 was released there were already 8 million or so 360's sold. That same gap is there which in my mind would be even sales between the two. Maybe I am not seeing this right and just confused. I know the 1 year head start means nothing, look at the Wii, but haven't they both been selling the same since PS3 was released?

Not always about sales numbers. In Sony's eyes, they were getting crushed. They went from something like 70% marketshare to less than 25% to start, which I think is now about 30%. Yes, they were getting crushed and business wise, they have already lost this gen.
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I'm at complete loss at whyps3 fanboys celibrating so much.

Fact ps3 is still in last place

Fact software companies love 360 since 360 owners buy more games

Fact even if ps3 outsells 360 by 50thousand units for the next 2 years xbox360 will stilll be a head of ps3.

Plus you have to be insane to think ththat 360 wont outsell ps3 for few months in the next 10 months.

In order for ps3 to catch up ps3 will have to outsell 360 by huge numbers month after month for next few years. Winning by few thousand numbers a month wont cut it.

ps3 fanbosy celebrating is like guy who got knocked out in a fight celebrating that he landed couple of good punches before he got knocked out lol.

IFBB-PRO

Calm down lem. You scream a victory you dont have. Wii is 1st place . Get it through your head.

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What the hell is wrong with ps3 fanboys on this site. Let me get this str8. When 360 outsells ps3 month after month for few years its no big deal but the minute ps3 outsells 360 by 20k -40k for couple of months than ps3 fanboys scream how its doom for 360.

Come back and talk to me when ps3 ousells 360 for 8-10 months in a row like 360 did with ps3 in recent history. Even then ps3 will still be in the last place.

360 does not need to make a come back if even with increased ps3 sales ps3 is still in the last place 2-3 years from now.

Its like in basketball for example. If you losing by 50 points it dont matter if you make 35 points in a row and other team zero. Fact still remains after the final seconds run out you still lost and other team won.

IFBB-PRO
Pretty much, but you're required to leave logic at the door once you enter system wars.
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#70 tehsystemwarior
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Vgchartz? Really?
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#71 killab2oo5
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Those PS3 numbers are dropping fast even after slim + price drop. x_x The 360 may get back in lead in overall sales again. :3 I wonder who will win the holiday season. Sales sales sales!

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#72 opex07
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only one thing you need to realise when the x360 was outselling the PS3 it was still losing in yearly sales and was $200 cheaper.

drakecool1

The 360 sold more in 2008, and the majority of 2009. Along with its year head start.

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#73 kingtito
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[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

[QUOTE="IFBB-PRO"]

What the hell is wrong with ps3 fanboys on this site. Let me get this str8. When 360 outsells ps3 month after month for few years its no big deal but the minute ps3 outsells 360 by 20k -40k for couple of months than ps3 fanboys scream how its doom for 360.

Come back and talk to me when ps3 ousells 360 for 8-10 months in a row like 360 did with ps3 in recent history. Even then ps3 will still be in the last place.

360 does not need to make a come back if even with increased ps3 sales ps3 is still in the last place 2-3 years from now.

Its like in basketball for example. If you losing by 50 points it dont matter if you make 35 points in a row and other team zero. Fact still remains after the final seconds run out you still lost and other team won.

only one thing you need to realise when the x360 was outselling the PS3 it was still losing in yearly sales and was $200 cheaper.

How did it outsell it WW in sales when the gap widened in 2008. The 360 OUTSOLD the PS3 in WW sales in 2008 just for your information. Cows must be running out of the things to write about now. They've been saying the same crap for the past 4 years
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[QUOTE="IFBB-PRO"]

I'm at complete loss at whyps3 fanboys celibrating so much.

Fact ps3 is still in last place

Fact software companies love 360 since 360 owners buy more games

Fact even if ps3 outsells 360 by 50thousand units for the next 2 years xbox360 will stilll be a head of ps3.

Plus you have to be insane to think ththat 360 wont outsell ps3 for few months in the next 10 months.

In order for ps3 to catch up ps3 will have to outsell 360 by huge numbers month after month for next few years. Winning by few thousand numbers a month wont cut it.

ps3 fanbosy celebrating is like guy who got knocked out in a fight celebrating that he landed couple of good punches before he got knocked out lol.

RadecSupreme

Calm down lem. You scream a victory you dont have. Wii is 1st place . Get it through your head.

According to the majority here in System wars the Wii isn't a current gen console(not something i agree with, granted, I don't agree with any of the asinine comments in here). it is amazing how rules change to favor one argument over another. This is why I keep coming to these boards.
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#75 darthogre
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vgchartz????? :( Seroiusly, I could have guessed a number and it's about as reliable as them.
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#76 chunkymonkey313
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well, a lot o ppl thought odst was too short or somthing, an tat it was not a full blown sequel like h3, but that will change wit halo reach
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#77 skinny_man_69
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It is always interesting to see how people spin sales to their advantage. This thread has about ten different views on what those sales mean but in the end, it doesn't really effect anybody here :P

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ODST and MW2 are not "system sellers". :?
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#79 Wassmansdorff
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I'm at complete loss at whyps3 fanboys celibrating so much.

Fact ps3 is still in last place

Fact software companies love 360 since 360 owners buy more games

Fact even if ps3 outsells 360 by 50thousand units for the next 2 years xbox360 will stilll be a head of ps3.

Plus you have to be insane to think ththat 360 wont outsell ps3 for few months in the next 10 months.

In order for ps3 to catch up ps3 will have to outsell 360 by huge numbers month after month for next few years. Winning by few thousand numbers a month wont cut it.

ps3 fanbosy celebrating is like guy who got knocked out in a fight celebrating that he landed couple of good punches before he got knocked out lol.

IFBB-PRO
FACT - XBOX360 was outsold by 1.5 million units since September (Gap 8.2 mi to 6.7 mi in 2 months). You are just a poor misinformed lem.
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#80 ChrisJ2004
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PS3's numbers are positive because no body was buying them last year but they are now due to the price drop.

logic plz

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#81 tastetheacidmil
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I find it funny that for the better part of 3 years, while the PS3 was getting crushed, sales did not matter.

Now there are threads all over touting PS3 sales.

tbolt76

i know, the hypocrisy is hillarious, even on you tube ps3 fanboys are talkin bout teh sales like the 360 is finished

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#82 pattyp77
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Its unfortunate - Sony PS3 was/is a very good system and a complete high-quality package. The best of the Wiii, 360, PS3 group. PS3 outta the box you get everything you need, plus more, and there is no cost on cost on cost other than games.

BUT...

Unfortunately, sony for some reason forgot how consumers operate and also forgot the age demographic of its core customers... Sony thought "Hey we will release the BMW of consoles". Consumers (especially the bulk age group of gamers) don't buy BMW, they buy Hyundai (Even if the dam thing breaks down endlessly). Consumers buy the cheapest price tag, so long as it is reasonably comparable on core functionality... As the consumer needs extra stuff they buy it. Consumers are completely unaware of Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) its just spend, spend, spend in small cumulative blocks.

eg. "Feels" like 5x $100 is Cheaper then $500.

IMO PS3 new price point will put PS3 in front (period over period, almost definitely not in total life-time sales) IF and only IF M$ doesn't start ramping a new XBox720 within the next 18-months (Which they likely will because it makes sense).

The question for Sony is... Was BluRay worth sacrificing leader of consoles in this generation...? Or would it have been better to go in with a cheap gaming machine, with wide appeal, like M$ did...? Idon't think the answer is is as obvious as it may seem... Time will tell all :)

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#83 djsifer01
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People are stating to realize the PS3 is twice the value.
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#84 PrimusGears
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the ps3 is barely beating the 360 and this hasnt been the cae for the last two weeks in the United States the number 1 market. So expect NPD numbers in december for november to have alot of fireworks. MW2 sold 1.5 million more on the 360 and the trend will continue as weeks go on. The PS3 is a huge failure and had to slice its price in half to be competitive with the 360. Its game over in 2010 with the release of Project Natal and Halo Reach and most likely a price drop. So much for those days of owning 80 percent of the market with the PS2, so much for brand loyality, and so much for SONY dominance. MS came in and showed them the AMERICAN way and its paying dividends.

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#85 pattyp77
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MS came in and showed them the AMERICAN way and its paying dividends.

PrimusGears

Yup - In true M$ style...

Low Cost, High Margin, Low Quality, HUGE marketing Budget... It truely is the American way!

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#86 De_Bears
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Look, I'm glad the PS3 is doing well currently. But fighting for second place seems a little ...... special needs. I don't see any ownage from lemmings nor cows on this issue.

Unless your a fake-boy any self respecting cow will know not to touch sales success too early. Just enjoy your games.

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#87 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="pattyp77"]

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

MS came in and showed them the AMERICAN way and its paying dividends.

Yup - In true M$ style...

Low Cost, High Margin, Low Quality, HUGE marketing Budget... Extremely low average consumer IQ... It truely is the American way!

Yes, insult half the users here to make a counter arguement.:roll:
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#88 PrimusGears
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[QUOTE="pattyp77"]

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

MS came in and showed them the AMERICAN way and its paying dividends.

SpiritOfFire117

Yup - In true M$ style...

Low Cost, High Margin, Low Quality, HUGE marketing Budget... Extremely low average consumer IQ... It truely is the American way!

Yes, insult half the users here to make a counter arguement.:roll:

:lol: well the PSN sig gives that persons alligence away.

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#89 pattyp77
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Yes, insult half the users here to make a counter arguement.:roll:

SpiritOfFire117

Apologies if I offended - I forgot that AMERICANS and their WAY is supreme to all... No chance I could have taken offence to that...

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#90 dommeus
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[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

[QUOTE="rp108"]

So wait a minute, the PS3 had a price drop and then Uncharted 2, Ratchet and Clank, Demon Souls and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and the PS3 only sold 32,000 more? If those titles can't sell PS3s then I think it will be very difficult to get out of third place.

coupe_delacoupe

cough Halo ODST, Forza 3, GTA BOGT

let me see a GTA game and a HALO game can't save the X360 lol

hit me up on psn

Yes, you two are perfect for each other.

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#91 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="pattyp77"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

Yes, insult half the users here to make a counter arguement.:roll:

Apologies if I offended - I forgot that AMERICANS and their WAY is supreme to all... No chance I could have taken offence to that...

Pretty good chance the "extremely low average consumer IQ" part won't score you much points either.
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#92 pattyp77
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:lol: well the PSN sig gives that persons alligence away.

PrimusGears

Man - I got no "alligence"... Gears of War is one of my fav games... and most of my buddies have Xbox360's. But I choose PS3 because all the guys with XBox360s had to keep gettin them replaced and I'm a fiend for Movies and hiDef.

Each to their own... XBox clearly has this gen owned and I stated why (Imho) in my above post.

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#93 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="pattyp77"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

Yes, insult half the users here to make a counter arguement.:roll:

Apologies if I offended - I forgot that AMERICANS and their WAY is supreme to all... No chance I could have taken offence to that...

Pretty good chance the "extremely low average consumer IQ" part won't score you much points either.

Generally, insulting an entire culture with vague generalizations is not a productive way to win an argument. It also reflects poorly on you.
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#94 pattyp77
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I have removed the comment... It was unnecessary.

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#95 smartcriminal
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obviously they are wrong. I had a look at there Weekly US sales and as a total they had 360 at 19.5 Million and Ps3 at 10 mill. If 360 is beating the Ps3 by 1 mil in Europe that means Ps3 is more then 10 mil behind?

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#96 drakecool1
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ODST and MW2 are not "system sellers". :?Stevo_the_gamer

wait LOOOL Halo is not a system seller ? neither is Call of Duty ? and what about GTA ? then what is a system seller barbie goes shopping lol

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#97 Yankees718
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[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

MS came in and showed them the AMERICAN way and its paying dividends.

pattyp77

Yup - In true M$ style...

Low Cost, High Margin, Low Quality, HUGE marketing Budget... It truely is the American way!

*Refers to apple*

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#98 drakecool1
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Those PS3 numbers are dropping fast even after slim + price drop. x_x The 360 may get back in lead in overall sales again. :3 I wonder who will win the holiday season. Sales sales sales!

killab2oo5

like I mentioned 360 also had a price drop and released a HALO game and a GTA game and still was not able to sell more systems than PS3 so I doubt youll see the 360 sell more than ps3 again unless they start giving the system for free.

fact is the 360 is old news and so is halo people want a PS3.

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#99 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]ODST and MW2 are not "system sellers". :?drakecool1

wait LOOOL Halo is not a system seller ? neither is Call of Duty ? and what about GTA ? then what is a system seller barbie goes shopping lol

ODST wasn't, as it was an expansion. Most people who had it already had Halo 3, and even then I doubt the game moved many 360s on itself alone. Halo, yes. ODST? No so much. MW2 probably did, but again. Sequel to a popular shooter. MW1 probably sold more systems.
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#100 93soccer
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[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5919

Is there any Hope of 360 taking the lead again afterhalo odst and cod mw3 2 failed for them ?

PS3w only system to have it's sales up from last year by 52 %.

Wii - 559, 314

DS - 493, 958

PS3 - 326, 920

X360 - 294, 377

PSP - 184, 308

PS2 - 69, 277

drakecool1

PS3 numbers are DRASTICALLY declining. 360 will pass the PS3 again in the next couple of months.

lol if halo odst and mw 2 and forza 3 could not save the 360 what makes you think it will make a comeback.

especially HALO the systems top selling game could not save it.

btw here are the japan sales for you OUCH for 360

Wii 23000

NDS 2800

DSi 33000

PS2 2500

PS3 33000

PSP 40000

PSP go 6600

360 4100


It doesn't matter what one console sells in a month. Look at overall sales and the ps3 is behind by like 7 million