Worldwide Sales Halo odst and Cod MW2 not enough for 360 to beat PS3

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

[QUOTE="ChartTopper93"]

since when did the 360 need saving?? the ps3 needs saving, n these small strides its making means nothing.

AdmiralBison

lol ps3 needs saving it's destroying the 360 in america and throughout the world while the 360 cant seem to sell anymore and is becoming old news.

if halo and a gta can't help the 360 beat the ps3 in sales what does that tell you about each coming month when the 360 wont have agame the caliber of halo and gta coming ? it's simple logics..

nobody wants a 360 now that the ps3 is cheap microsoft can throw all the halos they want and the gta it wont make a difference the 360 is ancient history in the eyes of consumers they want whats in and new the slim.

simple logic?

You're logic is flawed!

Nobody want's an Xbox360 now? Yet it's still selling

The PS3 is cheap yet it can only get 30K units over the Xbox360 after the PS3 Slim, the 'graphics kings' Uncharted 2, KZ2, MGS4and multiplats that also appear on the PS3 like MW2?

360 is ancient history in the eyes of consumers? You exagerate.

if you call 30K+ over the Xbox360 destroying, what do you call it when the PS3 was lagging 80k+??

by the way, it was also reported that the sales rate for the PS3 is declining faster then the xbox360 post price drop.

Enjoy your sales spike while it lasts.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="santoron"]

Why wouldn't they be? Halo and GTA are two of the biggest franchises going... How could we posibly argue that both titles are full releases, deserving to be counted as new games, but then hedge and claim they aren't full titles if they don't give the results a full title would? That's cherry picking for the benefit of the current argument.

I absolutely agree that both titles should be counted on the spreadsheet, so don't take my debate to mean I'm arguing a change in their status. Halo :ODST isn't even considered a standalone expansion at all, as far as Bungie is concerned. It's a full game that grew out of an idea for an expansion... at least that's their words.

santoron

they may sell a lot of software copies but they're more likely to be bought by owners of the main game as opposed to people buying a system so that they can play the stand alone expansions.

I suppose, though I would say that's the same situation any sequel would be in. Once a beloved franchise makes an appearance on new hardware, I'd assume that the majority of the fans would make the required system purchase. When a sequel appears on the same hardware, the hardware sales would tend to be muted, not matter how the title was termed.

exactly. which, like we have been saying, expansions and sequels to games that have already been released this gen are NOT system sellers

[QUOTE="santoron"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

they may sell a lot of software copies but they're more likely to be bought by owners of the main game as opposed to people buying a system so that they can play the stand alone expansions.

ogvampire

I suppose, though I would say that's the same situation any sequel would be in. Once a beloved franchise makes an appearance on new hardware, I'd assume that the majority of the fans would make the required system purchase. When a sequel appears on the same hardware, the hardware sales would tend to be muted, not matter how the title was termed.

exactly. which, like we have been saying, expansions and sequels to games that have already been released this gen are NOT system sellers

halo odst is not an expansion neither is forza 3 and both games failed to help the 360 sell more systems than ps3 so my question is what future game is going to be the 360 savior is it going to be Halo Reach ? Gears 3 but those games are far off and if halo odst a full fledged game couldn't do it what makes you think reach will be able to stop the slim ?

those are thing you need to think about.

[QUOTE="santoron"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

they may sell a lot of software copies but they're more likely to be bought by owners of the main game as opposed to people buying a system so that they can play the stand alone expansions.

ogvampire

I suppose, though I would say that's the same situation any sequel would be in. Once a beloved franchise makes an appearance on new hardware, I'd assume that the majority of the fans would make the required system purchase. When a sequel appears on the same hardware, the hardware sales would tend to be muted, not matter how the title was termed.

exactly. which, like we have been saying, expansions and sequels to games that have already been released this gen are NOT system sellers

gears 2 was a system seller and that was a sequel to a game released this gen lol the damage control here is hilarious.

just admit the 360 is not cutting it anymore.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="santoron"]

I suppose, though I would say that's the same situation any sequel would be in. Once a beloved franchise makes an appearance on new hardware, I'd assume that the majority of the fans would make the required system purchase. When a sequel appears on the same hardware, the hardware sales would tend to be muted, not matter how the title was termed.

exactly. which, like we have been saying, expansions and sequels to games that have already been released this gen are NOT system sellers

gears 2 was a system seller and that was a sequel to a game released this gen lol the damage control here is hilarious.

just admit the 360 is not cutting it anymore.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="santoron"]

I suppose, though I would say that's the same situation any sequel would be in. Once a beloved franchise makes an appearance on new hardware, I'd assume that the majority of the fans would make the required system purchase. When a sequel appears on the same hardware, the hardware sales would tend to be muted, not matter how the title was termed.

drakecool1

exactly. which, like we have been saying, expansions and sequels to games that have already been released this gen are NOT system sellers

gears 2 was a system seller and that was a sequel to a game released this gen lol the damage control here is hilarious.

just admit the 360 is not cutting it anymore.

i dont know where you get your info, but you gotta get a different source cause youre constantly spouting incorrect information.

gears 2 wasnt a system seller. it was released in november... a 'holiday month'... all of the consoles got boosts in sales

if you want to see what a system seller looks like, look at the sales for the 360 when halo 3 was released and ps3 sales when mgs4 released

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="santoron"]

I suppose, though I would say that's the same situation any sequel would be in. Once a beloved franchise makes an appearance on new hardware, I'd assume that the majority of the fans would make the required system purchase. When a sequel appears on the same hardware, the hardware sales would tend to be muted, not matter how the title was termed.

drakecool1

exactly. which, like we have been saying, expansions and sequels to games that have already been released this gen are NOT system sellers

halo odst is not an expansion neither is forza 3 and both games failed to help the 360 sell more systems than ps3 so my question is what future game is going to be the 360 savior is it going to be Halo Reach ? Gears 3 but those games are far off and if halo odst a full fledged game couldn't do it what makes you think reach will be able to stop the slim ?

those are thing you need to think about.

how did you miss this part?:

"...sequels to games that have already been released this gen are NOT system sellers"

xbox will never catch up to ps3

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

exactly. which, like we have been saying, expansions and sequels to games that have already been released this gen are NOT system sellers

clone01

gears 2 was a system seller and that was a sequel to a game released this gen lol the damage control here is hilarious.

just admit the 360 is not cutting it anymore.

360 also had a price cut at the same time as the slim.

xbox will never catch up to ps3

PSNIDCiocio313

Monthly and weekly sales mean absolutely dick to me.

The PS3's (no 360 fanboy here, PS3 kicks ass) current dominance in sales is a LOT less impressive when you consider the amount of people who ALREADY HAD 360s as opposed to PS3s.

^Looks like common sense just killed this thread....

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5919

Is there any Hope of 360 taking the lead again afterhalo odst and cod mw3 2 failed for them ?

PS3w only system to have it's sales up from last year by 52 %.

Wii - 559, 314

DS - 493, 958

PS3 - 326, 920

X360 - 294, 377

PSP - 184, 308

PS2 - 69, 277

KaoSXFACTOR

PS3 numbers are DRASTICALLY declining. 360 will pass the PS3 again in the next couple of months.

I don't see a link.

[QUOTE="PSNIDCiocio313"]

xbox will never catch up to ps3

SpiritOfFire117

lol! that gave me a good laugh

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="santoron"]

I suppose, though I would say that's the same situation any sequel would be in. Once a beloved franchise makes an appearance on new hardware, I'd assume that the majority of the fans would make the required system purchase. When a sequel appears on the same hardware, the hardware sales would tend to be muted, not matter how the title was termed.

drakecool1

exactly. which, like we have been saying, expansions and sequels to games that have already been released this gen are NOT system sellers

halo odst is not an expansion neither is forza 3 and both games failed to help the 360 sell more systems than ps3 so my question is what future game is going to be the 360 savior is it going to be Halo Reach ? Gears 3 but those games are far off and if halo odst a full fledged game couldn't do it what makes you think reach will be able to stop the slim ?

those are thing you need to think about.

why haven't you answered the question yet? why would halo 3: odst be a system seller? your only response is that it's a system seller because it's a system seller. :?

Why do people post this stuff it's not like they getting a cut of the profit.

sequels arent usually system sellers because their fanbase already jump aboard with the first installment. why would anyone who brought a system for a game buy another just for the sequel? i really have no clue if ur serious with all this or not. i'm thinking ur a fakeboy right now or have no comprehension skills at all.

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

exactly. which, like we have been saying, expansions and sequels to games that have already been released this gen are NOT system sellers

CaseyWegner

halo odst is not an expansion neither is forza 3 and both games failed to help the 360 sell more systems than ps3 so my question is what future game is going to be the 360 savior is it going to be Halo Reach ? Gears 3 but those games are far off and if halo odst a full fledged game couldn't do it what makes you think reach will be able to stop the slim ?

those are thing you need to think about.

why haven't you answered the question yet? why would halo 3: odst be a system seller? your only response is that it's a system seller because it's a system seller. :?

easy because it has halo on the title the name halo by itself is a system seller and so is gta.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

halo odst is not an expansion neither is forza 3 and both games failed to help the 360 sell more systems than ps3 so my question is what future game is going to be the 360 savior is it going to be Halo Reach ? Gears 3 but those games are far off and if halo odst a full fledged game couldn't do it what makes you think reach will be able to stop the slim ?

those are thing you need to think about.

drakecool1

why haven't you answered the question yet? why would halo 3: odst be a system seller? your only response is that it's a system seller because it's a system seller. :?

easy because it has halo on the title the name halo by itself is a system seller and so is gta.

Monthly and weekly sales mean absolutely dick to me.

The PS3's (no 360 fanboy here, PS3 kicks ass) current dominance in sales is a LOT less impressive when you consider the amount of people who ALREADY HAD 360s as opposed to PS3s.

TheAxeMurderer

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="drakecool1"]

gears 2 was a system seller and that was a sequel to a game released this gen lol the damage control here is hilarious.

just admit the 360 is not cutting it anymore.

360 also had a price cut at the same time as the slim.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why haven't you answered the question yet? why would halo 3: odst be a system seller? your only response is that it's a system seller because it's a system seller. :?

easy because it has halo on the title the name halo by itself is a system seller and so is gta.

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="PSNIDCiocio313"]

xbox will never catch up to ps3

ogvampire

lol! that gave me a good laugh

no technically he is correct.

The XBOX will never catch the up to the PS3.

The PS3 however has to catch up to the XBOX360.:P

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

halo odst is not an expansion neither is forza 3 and both games failed to help the 360 sell more systems than ps3 so my question is what future game is going to be the 360 savior is it going to be Halo Reach ? Gears 3 but those games are far off and if halo odst a full fledged game couldn't do it what makes you think reach will be able to stop the slim ?

those are thing you need to think about.

drakecool1

why haven't you answered the question yet? why would halo 3: odst be a system seller? your only response is that it's a system seller because it's a system seller. :?

easy because it has halo on the title the name halo by itself is a system seller and so is gta.

no. you're still doing it. you're telling me it's a system seller because it's a system seller. why is it a system seller when halo 3 already came out? doesn't the overall purpose of this thread defeat your own argument anyway? if a game is a system seller just because it has the name "halo" in it, shouldn't this have been a system seller? it wasn't.

xbox will never catch up to ps3

PSNIDCiocio313

[QUOTE="PSNIDCiocio313"]

xbox will never catch up to ps3

D-RS

what expansion is that halo odst is a full game and are you telling me kz2, demons souland U2 have more selling power than halo,gta and forza lol u got to be kidding me.

the only thing PS3 hasnt caught up to is the year head start while monthly it's destroying the 360 despite it's heavy hitters.

you say only outselling by 30 k the bottom line is PS3 > 360

[QUOTE="D-RS"][QUOTE="PSNIDCiocio313"]

xbox will never catch up to ps3

drakecool1

what expansion is that halo odst is a full game and are you telling me kz2, demons souland U2 have more selling power than halo,gta and forza lol u got to be kidding me.

the only thing PS3 hasnt caught up to is the year head start while monthly it's destroying the 360 despite it's heavy hitters.

you say only outselling by 30 k the bottom line is PS3 > 360

why should halo 3: odst have been a system seller?

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

[QUOTE="D-RS"] What's funny here is that The ps3 hasn't even Caught up with 360 . And also , With Uncharted 2 , DEmon's soul Coming out and the ps3 only outselling the 360 by 30K , and Also AN expansion Sold more than Kz2 and U2 have Sold untill now in 1 day , that's embarassing ....CaseyWegner

what expansion is that halo odst is a full game and are you telling me kz2, demons souland U2 have more selling power than halo,gta and forza lol u got to be kidding me.

the only thing PS3 hasnt caught up to is the year head start while monthly it's destroying the 360 despite it's heavy hitters.

you say only outselling by 30 k the bottom line is PS3 > 360

why should halo 3: odst have been a system seller?

it doesn't take a genius to figure out halo is a bigger name than anything in videogames it doesn't matter if it's a sequel anything halo will get buys unlike uncharted 2 where uncharted 1 didn't sell well neither demons soul w3hich nobody even knows about yet halo is a household name and so is gta.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

what expansion is that halo odst is a full game and are you telling me kz2, demons souland U2 have more selling power than halo,gta and forza lol u got to be kidding me.

the only thing PS3 hasnt caught up to is the year head start while monthly it's destroying the 360 despite it's heavy hitters.

you say only outselling by 30 k the bottom line is PS3 > 360

drakecool1

why should halo 3: odst have been a system seller?

it doesn't take a genius to figure out halo is a bigger name than anything in videogames it doesn't matter if it's a sequel anything halo will get buys unlike uncharted 2 where uncharted 1 didn't sell well neither demons soul w3hich nobody even knows about yet halo is a household name and so is gta.

No Mario is a bigger name- it is synonmous with video games.

Since we are going by house hold names, I take it when GT5 comes out it would move Playstation 3's phenomonally?

How about the Playstation name? That should have moved the Playstation 3 to first already within 2 years of this generation especially how the PS2 performed.

Halo ODST still sold quite well(expansion or not-that's still debatable)

A console price drop obviously is more effective to moving consoles then games-even Halo and GTA.

The fact of the matter is WW the PS3 is still in last place, a few months of a sales spurt is not going to change that, and the pint of view where the Xbox360 has to beat the PS3 is backwards. It's the PS3 that has to beat the Xbox360.

Otherwise why does something like this make headlines in System Wars?

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why should halo 3: odst have been a system seller?

AdmiralBison

it doesn't take a genius to figure out halo is a bigger name than anything in videogames it doesn't matter if it's a sequel anything halo will get buys unlike uncharted 2 where uncharted 1 didn't sell well neither demons soul w3hich nobody even knows about yet halo is a household name and so is gta.

No Mario is a bigger name- it is synonmous with video games.

Since we are going by house hold names, I take it when GT5 comes out it would move Playstation 3's phenomonally?

How about the Playstation name? That should have moved the Playstation 3 to first already within 2 years of this generation especially how the PS2 performed.

Halo ODST still sold quite well(expansion or not-that's still debatable)

A console price drop obviously is more effective to moving consoles then games-even Halo and GTA.

The fact of the matter is WW the PS3 is still in last place, a few months of a sales spurt is not going to change that, and the pint of view where the Xbox360 has to beat the PS3 is backwards. It's the PS3 that has to beat the Xbox360.

Otherwise why does something like this make headlines in System Wars?

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why should halo 3: odst have been a system seller?

AdmiralBison

it doesn't take a genius to figure out halo is a bigger name than anything in videogames it doesn't matter if it's a sequel anything halo will get buys unlike uncharted 2 where uncharted 1 didn't sell well neither demons soul w3hich nobody even knows about yet halo is a household name and so is gta.

No Mario is a bigger name- it is synonmous with video games.

Since we are going by house hold names, I take it when GT5 comes out it would move Playstation 3's phenomonally?

How about the Playstation name? That should have moved the Playstation 3 to first already within 2 years of this generation especially how the PS2 performed.

Halo ODST still sold quite well(expansion or not-that's still debatable)

A console price drop obviously is more effective to moving consoles then games-even Halo and GTA.

The fact of the matter is WW the PS3 is still in last place, a few months of a sales spurt is not going to change that, and the pint of view where the Xbox360 has to beat the PS3 is backwards. It's the PS3 that has to beat the Xbox360.

Otherwise why does something like this make headlines in System Wars?

PS3 has a 10 year shelf life so i can garentee it will at least come within 1-2 million of the 360 if not pass it by a couple million

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why should halo 3: odst have been a system seller?

AdmiralBison

it doesn't take a genius to figure out halo is a bigger name than anything in videogames it doesn't matter if it's a sequel anything halo will get buys unlike uncharted 2 where uncharted 1 didn't sell well neither demons soul w3hich nobody even knows about yet halo is a household name and so is gta.

No Mario is a bigger name- it is synonmous with video games.

Since we are going by house hold names, I take it when GT5 comes out it would move Playstation 3's phenomonally?

How about the Playstation name? That should have moved the Playstation 3 to first already within 2 years of this generation especially how the PS2 performed.

Halo ODST still sold quite well(expansion or not-that's still debatable)

A console price drop obviously is more effective to moving consoles then games-even Halo and GTA.

The fact of the matter is WW the PS3 is still in last place, a few months of a sales spurt is not going to change that, and the pint of view where the Xbox360 has to beat the PS3 is backwards. It's the PS3 that has to beat the Xbox360.

Otherwise why does something like this make headlines in System Wars?

No Mario is a bigger name- it is synonmous with video games. - I would say they are about equal didn't halo 3 sell more than super mario galaxy ?

Since we are going by house hold names, I take it when GT5 comes out it would move Playstation 3's phenomonally?halo is bigget than GT5 but I believe we will see gt5 move ps3's

How about the Playstation name? That should have moved the Playstation 3 to first already within 2 years of this generation especially how the PS2 performed. - $600 price >> Playstation name

Halo ODST still sold quite well(expansion or not-that's still debatable)-it's not debatable it's not an expansion bungie themselves said it and for a halo game it's not selling well at all.

A console price drop obviously is more effective to moving consoles then games-even Halo and GTA. - 360 had a price drop as well don't forget and 360 is still cheaper.

The fact of the matter is WW the PS3 is still in last place, a few months of a sales spurt is not going to change that, and the pint of view where the Xbox360 has to beat the PS3 is backwards. It's the PS3 that has to beat the Xbox360. - this thread is not about last place but why the 360 failed to sell more hardware this month with the cheaper price and loads of household name games like halo and gta.

oh boy can i get in on this argument about things i'm not making a penny on selling well?? or not selling well??? or whatever it is doing???

because arguing sales on things that don't put money in my pocket is an ongoing, vital and burning concern of mine!!!

anyway haha on you xbox 360 by the year 2014 (give or take a year or 2 or 3)you will be in last place so there take that!!!!

check out this article on ps3 sales by CNET

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-10380994-52.html?tag=smallCarouselArea.4

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

what expansion is that halo odst is a full game and are you telling me kz2, demons souland U2 have more selling power than halo,gta and forza lol u got to be kidding me.

the only thing PS3 hasnt caught up to is the year head start while monthly it's destroying the 360 despite it's heavy hitters.

you say only outselling by 30 k the bottom line is PS3 > 360

drakecool1

why should halo 3: odst have been a system seller?

it doesn't take a genius to figure out halo is a bigger name than anything in videogames it doesn't matter if it's a sequel anything halo will get buys unlike uncharted 2 where uncharted 1 didn't sell well neither demons soul w3hich nobody even knows about yet halo is a household name and so is gta.

are you still talking about the game selling systems? cause now it sounds more like you're just talking about people buying the game (which they did) but that doesn't really answer the question.

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why should halo 3: odst have been a system seller?

CaseyWegner

it doesn't take a genius to figure out halo is a bigger name than anything in videogames it doesn't matter if it's a sequel anything halo will get buys unlike uncharted 2 where uncharted 1 didn't sell well neither demons soul w3hich nobody even knows about yet halo is a household name and so is gta.

are you still talking about the game selling systems? cause now it sounds more like you're just talking about people buying the game (which they did) but that doesn't really answer the question.

people get motivated to buy systems on games and how popular they are that's what I am saying I personally bought my PS3 because of MGS4 and GTA IV most people buy a system because games on a system call out and two of the BIGGEST videogames out there came in the same month for 360 GTA BOGT, Halo ODST and not to mention Forza 3 and the system did not manage to sell good the PS3 creamed it.

before you say PS3 had a price cut WELL 360 also had a price cut.

before you say it's just a expansion 1 no halo odst is not

the bottom line is gamees with name recognition are kno3wn to sell system and there are no bigger name recognition than HALO and GTA yet those two games alone could not even manage to get the 360 above the PS3 slim.

does not that show how strong the sony brand still is and how the 360 with it's halo reach and gears 3 will not be able to touch it.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

it doesn't take a genius to figure out halo is a bigger name than anything in videogames it doesn't matter if it's a sequel anything halo will get buys unlike uncharted 2 where uncharted 1 didn't sell well neither demons soul w3hich nobody even knows about yet halo is a household name and so is gta.

drakecool1

are you still talking about the game selling systems? cause now it sounds more like you're just talking about people buying the game (which they did) but that doesn't really answer the question.

people get motivated to buy systems on games and how popular they are that's what I am saying I personally bought my PS3 because of MGS4 and GTA IV most people buy a system because games on a system call out and two of the BIGGEST videogames out there came in the same month for 360 GTA BOGT, Halo ODST and not to mention Forza 3 and the system did not manage to sell good the PS3 creamed it.

before you say PS3 had a price cut WELL 360 also had a price cut.

before you say it's just a expansion 1 no halo odst is not

the bottom line is gamees with name recognition are kno3wn to sell system and there are no bigger name recognition than HALO and GTA yet those two games alone could not even manage to get the 360 above the PS3 slim.

does not that show how strong the sony brand still is and how the 360 with it's halo reach and gears 3 will not be able to touch it.

it's a stand alone expansion which happens to be a full game. it's called halo 3: odst for a reason. if halo 3 wasn't a system seller, why would it's expansion be?

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

it doesn't take a genius to figure out halo is a bigger name than anything in videogames it doesn't matter if it's a sequel anything halo will get buys unlike uncharted 2 where uncharted 1 didn't sell well neither demons soul w3hich nobody even knows about yet halo is a household name and so is gta.

drakecool1

No Mario is a bigger name- it is synonmous with video games.

Since we are going by house hold names, I take it when GT5 comes out it would move Playstation 3's phenomonally?

How about the Playstation name? That should have moved the Playstation 3 to first already within 2 years of this generation especially how the PS2 performed.

Halo ODST still sold quite well(expansion or not-that's still debatable)

A console price drop obviously is more effective to moving consoles then games-even Halo and GTA.

The fact of the matter is WW the PS3 is still in last place, a few months of a sales spurt is not going to change that, and the pint of view where the Xbox360 has to beat the PS3 is backwards. It's the PS3 that has to beat the Xbox360.

Otherwise why does something like this make headlines in System Wars?

No Mario is a bigger name- it is synonmous with video games. - I would say they are about equal didn't halo 3 sell more than super mario galaxy ?

Since we are going by house hold names, I take it when GT5 comes out it would move Playstation 3's phenomonally?halo is bigget than GT5 but I believe we will see gt5 move ps3's

How about the Playstation name? That should have moved the Playstation 3 to first already within 2 years of this generation especially how the PS2 performed. - $600 price >> Playstation name

Halo ODST still sold quite well(expansion or not-that's still debatable)-it's not debatable it's not an expansion bungie themselves said it and for a halo game it's not selling well at all.

A console price drop obviously is more effective to moving consoles then games-even Halo and GTA. - 360 had a price drop as well don't forget and 360 is still cheaper.

The fact of the matter is WW the PS3 is still in last place, a few months of a sales spurt is not going to change that, and the pint of view where the Xbox360 has to beat the PS3 is backwards. It's the PS3 that has to beat the Xbox360. - this thread is not about last place but why the 360 failed to sell more hardware this month with the cheaper price and loads of household name games like halo and gta.

Mario is bigger. It is more recognised, It is Nintendo's offcial mascot and has made a bigger impact then Halo. There is an artical on the influence Mario has http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34024118/ns/technology_and_science-games/

The argument here is that GT5 has sold more copies then Halo has. It is hugley anticipated by the Snoy crowd so naturally it should sell PS3-unless you're right GT5 is not as big as it is made out to be.

The price well that's a given. I conceded that it is the PS3's achilles heal. I take it then that the PS3 should start selling to take the lead like the previous generation then!

Halo ODST is selling well. It's just in comparison to full blown sequels like Halo, Halo 2 and Halo 3 it pales.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

it doesn't take a genius to figure out halo is a bigger name than anything in videogames it doesn't matter if it's a sequel anything halo will get buys unlike uncharted 2 where uncharted 1 didn't sell well neither demons soul w3hich nobody even knows about yet halo is a household name and so is gta.

caligamer

No Mario is a bigger name- it is synonmous with video games.

Since we are going by house hold names, I take it when GT5 comes out it would move Playstation 3's phenomonally?

How about the Playstation name? That should have moved the Playstation 3 to first already within 2 years of this generation especially how the PS2 performed.

Halo ODST still sold quite well(expansion or not-that's still debatable)

A console price drop obviously is more effective to moving consoles then games-even Halo and GTA.

The fact of the matter is WW the PS3 is still in last place, a few months of a sales spurt is not going to change that, and the pint of view where the Xbox360 has to beat the PS3 is backwards. It's the PS3 that has to beat the Xbox360.

Otherwise why does something like this make headlines in System Wars?

PS3 has a 10 year shelf life so i can garentee it will at least come within 1-2 million of the 360 if not pass it by a couple million

Microsoft have also stated they would continue supporting the Xbox360 one day longer then the PS3. Why would MS pull the plug on the Xbox360 when it's doing well and making them profits?

TC says 360 needs to take the lead again, yet it has stayed in 2nd place for a long tiime. Its gotta take the lead from last place PS3, that makes sense.

lol, this is a stupid argument. PS3 can have better sales or better specs, I don't give a shyt. PS3's online and community is still a joke compared to Xbox live.

If you love single player so much, then I won't make you get a 360, but if you love having fun with people online like most of us, then get a 360.