(?)Would you play a game with an openly hom0sexual protagonist

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="glez13"]

Plus if it was a "choice", didn't God give free will. :P

DarthBilf

I'm sorry to get into this, but Jesus NEVER mentioned homosexuality, nor did any of the prophets. And yeah, there are some verses in the Old Testament condemning homosexuality, but there are also verses saying if a bride was not a virgin she should be stoned to death, if someone commits adultery both people must be stoned to death, divorce is forbidden, no sex during a woman's period under pain of death, etc. Why do we latch onto mentions of homosexuality, while ignoring all of the other sexual activities forbidden by the Bible that are now commonplace?

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

If the gameplay is fine, why not?

To be honest, I wouldnt mind an openly gay protagonist, especially a well written one.

ohgeez

Wouldn't even bother me.

[QUOTE="ohgeez"][QUOTE="RandomWinner"]

YES I get to prove someone wrong with INFORMATION!!!

Sorry, I've been reading a book called Genome and they cover how evolution would allow this. If a so called gay gene" were to exist, those who have it wouldn't exactly be the ones reproducing. Which makes sense. BUT!!!! If said gene has another function, like say, making a woman's breasts bigger, making her appear more fertile, the gene would prosper. The sex genes are competitive, so although the gene may not make the woman gay it can cause a malfunction (which is a HORRIBLE word choice but I digress) on the Y chromosome. Statistically, it is most common for a gay man to have a gay uncle on the mother's side because it is passed through the female blood line. This is just a theory, but this is how it would be possible from an evolutionary perspective.

So to recap (because I'm bad at explaining things) it does make evolutionary sense if the gay gene" nets her a better mate because she appears more fertile (which is proven to be what straight men are attracted to). Thus, the gay gene is passed through the female bloodline for generations. I can't explain lesbians though (although I'm sure there's an explanation).

I'm fairly confident its a biological thing.

EDIT: I will say the important thing is that they have the same rights as everyone else, and we agree on that.

RandomWinner

True, years ago. Some people don't buy it. It happens all the time in nature, I was just explaining how it was possible evolutionary because it really doesn't make sense. Wouldn't natural selection eliminate the gene? One would think, but that isn't the case, the reason is something along the lines of what I said above.

No because I'm not gay and would not have any fun pretending I'm gay in a video game.

I would play. I'm not homophobic but I admit I don't like seeing romance from them. So if they have scenes like that I probably wouldn't.

[QUOTE="ohgeez"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

If the gameplay is fine, why not?

To be honest, I wouldnt mind an openly gay protagonist, especially a well written one.

bonesawisready5

Also.
Semi-related.
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If the gameplay is good and they are not over the top, in your face about it the whole time, then sure.

I mean damn, people play God of War don't they? And those games have sh*t gameplay.

If the gameplay is good and they are not over the top, in your face about it the whole time, then sure.

I mean damn, people play God of War don't they? And those games have sh*t gameplay.

sandbox3d

If the gameplay is good and they are not over the top, in your face about it the whole time, then sure.

I mean damn, people play God of War don't they? And those games have sh*t gameplay.

sandbox3d

I play God Of War. Who cares if it's over the top, it's time to stop being a nancy and always being politically correct all the time.

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

If the gameplay is good and they are not over the top, in your face about it the whole time, then sure.

I mean damn, people play God of War don't they? And those games have sh*t gameplay.

OB-47

I play God Of War. Who cares if it's over the top, it's time to stop being a nancy and always being politically correct all the time.

Huh?

Flambouyant.. definitely no. I don't think I'd play as a gay character either, mostly because alot of the game would be forcing the fact he was gay maybe if it was just a mention.. but we know that won't happen with the way things are today.

Not if there were any scenes of making out and such...but because I wouldn't know if there were any before hand I just wouldn't risk playing. I'm not gay but I support gay rights...yet I don't want to see that stuff personally.

Not if there were any scenes of making out and such...but because I wouldn't know if there were any before hand I just wouldn't risk playing. I'm not gay but I support gay rights...yet I don't want to see that stuff personally.

Bigboi500

This is the same situation for me here

That doesn't fit. To choose to be gay suggests the person is like everyone else, I.e. the majority, which are straight, but chooses to deny that in favor of being gay What you described in rape, are those with a psychological block to sexual activity as a result of a traumatic event. As for A sexuality, maybe those are born not having a reaction to any known form of sexual stimulus. If they choose to not have sex, it doesn't mean they don't have arousals, just a choice of chastity, as in the Franciscan monks.cainetao11

Depends

Damn software.

Isn't the main character of Skyrimming, homosexual?

Well I played through Army of Two, so I think I already have :P

If the game is a great game and handles it well, then yeah of course. Grand Theft Auto IV: Ballad of Gay Tony actually semi handled that. You had playboy yuppie Luis, but his best bud Tony was gay and it was even his name (thus, the title). Tony ended up being an incredibly likeable and believable man with flaws and positive personality aspects, and a character arc. I liked him just as much as I liked Roman in GTA IV, and thought he was well represented.

I think Rockstar should really branch out a bit with that. They're already incredibly diverse in their characters (often having women and gay characters in big starring roles that don't pander to stereotypes outside of their typical "parody" type characters), so its about time they gave us a full on Gay or Female protagonist.

I can see a game where you play as like, the gangster version of Paul Smecker or whatever from The Boondock Saints. Just some hitman or career thief who just happens to be gay but isn't defined by that sole trait. And the characters of Asuka and Elizabeta could make good templates for a believable girl gangster rising to the top and being dangerous killers.

In short, if the game is good then yes, I don't see why not.

No to flamboyantly gay protagonists since I just don't like the gay stereotype of a flamboyant homosexual. Otherwise if the character's homosexuality is developed extremely well i.e Kanji from Persona 4, then I'll probably enjoy the character a lot more.

If it's the case of having a token homosexual just to tick off a box, I'd just be indifferent and not care.

Not number 2...that would annoy the hell out of me. Honest to god. I don't mind those characters as side characters like in valkyria chronicles. Number 1? Sure, given they are still a good character, and in a game with great gameplay.

if it's a homosexual female, then definitely. :P

but seriously, I wouldn't care if a game had a homosexual male/female as long as the homosexual was not flamboyent.

Yup. I don't think there's enough gay characters in games, but that's a different discussion.

No to flamboyantly gay protagonists since I just don't like the gay stereotype of a flamboyant homosexual. Otherwise if the character's homosexuality is developed extremely well i.e Kanji from Persona 4, then I'll probably enjoy the character a lot more.

If it's the case of having a token homosexual just to tick off a box, I'd just be indifferent and not care.

Vesica_Prime

I actually believe there are more homosexual chracters than we think, and some game chracaters just hide it.

Just look at Dr. Wily. The guy always makes his robots a "man". and then come on, hard man? Snake man? Clearly Wily has more fun "tinkering" with male robots than female robots...

Kanji wasn't gay though, he only subconsciously thought he was because he was attracted to Naoto thinking she was a guy at first.

Bigboi500

Personally I thought the fight with his Shadow signifies the struggles with his sexuality and the conflicts with the culture and the cultural aspects he was brought up in.

Reading this thread, I am simply amazed at how much bigotry still exists in 2012.. A gay man does not choose to be gay Just as you do not choose to be straight. If something doesnt appeal to you, that doesnt mean you should be intolerant of it. And some of these people claim to be religeous? I thought religion was supposed to morally guide human beings, not a law to be followed. if any of these bigots meet god one day, Im pretty sure hell slap them round the face for not following the most important guide from him..... Be good to your fellow man. Surely this applies if someone likes a bit of sausage or pork in cider. If they are black or white, if they are rich or poor. Anyone claiming to follow god that disagress should be ashamed of themselves. BibiMaghoo

I'm sorry but was your post directed towards me? Just because I disagree with gay lifestyle doesn't make me a bigot, I already said that earlier. You are right about religion though, it's about loving God and loving your neighborh regardless. But I addressed that too.

I wouldn't mind it but it doesn't seem like you could pull it off very well and it wouldn'treally do anything for the game.

I wouldn't care. It could actually make a great and mature story about someones struggle with his feeling and society's hate and prejudice against him for it.

Although, I find it worth noting that in any game that gives me the option to play homosexual, I always choose the straight male option. Not because of any prejudice I might have for homosexuals, because I don't have any, but for the same reason I would never choose to be a female character (other than, I may be tired of staring at some dude's butt and want to switch to something appealing for once :P). It's because, when given the choice, I prefer to be a character who is more like myself.

I wouldn't care if a game had a homosexual male/female as long as the homosexualwas not flamboyent.

DJ-Lafleur

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Kanji wasn't gay though, he only subconsciously thought he was because he was attracted to Naoto thinking she was a guy at first.

Vesica_Prime

Personally I thought the fight with his Shadow signifies the struggles with his sexuality and the conflicts with the culture and the cultural aspects he was brought up in.

I've already played several games with gay protagonists. Half-Life, The Legend of Zelda, Kane & Lynch, Halo, Uncharted, Gears of War, etc.

well there was that old Playstation game that i cant remember for the life of me that had an openly gay main character. she was a lesbian but she was still gay if anyone can remember the name of the game please post it. chick kinda looked like an asian Aeon Flux. lol

I've already played several games with gay protagonists. Half-Life, The Legend of Zelda, Kane & Lynch, Halo, Uncharted, Gears of War, etc.

TheFallenDemon

What? No...just...no....

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]In answer to those saying it's a choice. My friend and fellow soldier is gay,he said he never chose to get an erection at the viewing of naked men. Its just the way his body reacted. There is no choice. Feelings aren't choices. You can only choose to deny or accept them.RandomWinner

The men in prison say otherwisse, I personally know a some gay people aswell and some of them say they were born that way and others say it was their upbringin/some life event that made them that way.

Either way there is't any evidence to suggest that people are born gay (makes no sense from an evolutionary prespective) or they chose it. Anyoe saying otherwise are often pushing an agenda, I personally believe that it's their enviornement. In any case I do agree that they should have the same rights as everyone else, and I'm a religious person saying this.

YES I get to prove someone wrong with INFORMATION!!!

Sorry, I've been reading a book called Genome and they cover how evolution would allow this. If a so called gay gene" were to exist, those who have it wouldn't exactly be the ones reproducing. Which makes sense. BUT!!!! If said gene has another function, like say, making a woman's breasts bigger, making her appear more fertile, the gene would prosper. The sex genes are competitive, so although the gene may not make the woman gay it can cause a malfunction (which is a HORRIBLE word choice but I digress) on the Y chromosome. Statistically, it is most common for a gay man to have a gay uncle on the mother's side because it is passed through the female blood line. This is just a theory, but this is how it would be possible from an evolutionary perspective.

So to recap (because I'm bad at explaining things) it does make evolutionary sense if the gay gene" nets her a better mate because she appears more fertile (which is proven to be what straight men are attracted to). Thus, the gay gene is passed through the female bloodline for generations. I can't explain lesbians though (although I'm sure there's an explanation).

I'm fairly confident its a biological thing.

EDIT: I will say the important thing is that they have the same rights as everyone else, and we agree on that.

Boom, right here, read the same book.

I have no problems with my homosexual friends. I would play any character from any race or any background or orientation. In fact, I love characters, not i can relate too, but are extremly different from me. It makes it intresting and if a game was too have an openly gay protagonist, it would be all the more intresting to see how they shape the story. Obviously the homosexuality could cause some sort of conflict or stand in his way, or shape how other characters interact with him.

Come to think of it, I've already played an openly homosexual protagonist. My character on www.dofus.com

OMG am I seriously reading arguments about if you are born gay or not? This is system wars, answer the question, please dont get in the controvesial side of it.

[QUOTE="RandomWinner"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

The men in prison say otherwisse, I personally know a some gay people aswell and some of them say they were born that way and others say it was their upbringin/some life event that made them that way.

Either way there is't any evidence to suggest that people are born gay (makes no sense from an evolutionary prespective) or they chose it. Anyoe saying otherwise are often pushing an agenda, I personally believe that it's their enviornement. In any case I do agree that they should have the same rights as everyone else, and I'm a religious person saying this.

StrifeDelivery

YES I get to prove someone wrong with INFORMATION!!!

Sorry, I've been reading a book called Genome and they cover how evolution would allow this. If a so called gay gene" were to exist, those who have it wouldn't exactly be the ones reproducing. Which makes sense. BUT!!!! If said gene has another function, like say, making a woman's breasts bigger, making her appear more fertile, the gene would prosper. The sex genes are competitive, so although the gene may not make the woman gay it can cause a malfunction (which is a HORRIBLE word choice but I digress) on the Y chromosome. Statistically, it is most common for a gay man to have a gay uncle on the mother's side because it is passed through the female blood line. This is just a theory, but this is how it would be possible from an evolutionary perspective.

So to recap (because I'm bad at explaining things) it does make evolutionary sense if the gay gene" nets her a better mate because she appears more fertile (which is proven to be what straight men are attracted to). Thus, the gay gene is passed through the female bloodline for generations. I can't explain lesbians though (although I'm sure there's an explanation).

I'm fairly confident its a biological thing.

EDIT: I will say the important thing is that they have the same rights as everyone else, and we agree on that.

Boom, right here, read the same book.

Umm...no, just because you read some book doesn't mean anything. First off there wouldn't be homosexuals if it was genetic, I happento know identical twins and one is gay but the other isn't. Identitical means they look the same and share the same exact dna and genetic structure, but only ONE is gay Also the goal of a species is to pass on it's genes, of course we humans are quite different and don't have as much a need for that anymore. But there couldn't be a gay gene because it wouldn't have survived early human evolution.

Also animals don't mate for pleasure, they do so soley to reproduce. Sometimes they do mount the same sex but that's an act of dominance and not sexual pleasure, dogs do it to each other all the time. Of course though there isn't enough evidence to suggest either way, but you can believe whatever you want just like I do. I was just showing how the genetic argument is very flawed.

I played Final Fantasy 7. :P

I've already played several games with gay protagonists. Half-Life, The Legend of Zelda, Kane & Lynch, Halo, Uncharted, Gears of War, etc.TheFallenDemon