Wow, EGM tore Nintendo a new one this month.

This month EGM had a massive three page article about Nintendo's approval process, or lack therof, and how it's turning Wii and DS into garbage dumps for shovelware. It's truly shocking how low Nintendo's standards for third parties are in comparison to MS and Sony, and they're not doing anything to rectify it. Also, they pointed out something that even I missed-- in 2003, Nintendo changed the "Official Nintendo Seal of Quality" to just plain the "Official Nintendo Seal." Basically, with Sony and MS, even though crap does end up on their systems, they at least have a huge approval process that devs must go through to minimize the ammounts of utter garbage on the system. Nintendo has no concept approval process at all though, so anything goes, including crap like Chicken Shoot which is a straight up port of a GBA game!Timstuff

The whole "Official Nintendo Seal of Quality" article? Yea, I had a good laugh at that one.

I have my Wii for the games Nintendo makes.

And a few quality Third Party games.

Other than that, that's what I have my 360 for.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]This month EGM had a massive three page article about Nintendo's approval process, or lack therof, and how it's turning Wii and DS into garbage dumps for shovelware. It's truly shocking how low Nintendo's standards for third parties are in comparison to MS and Sony, and they're not doing anything to rectify it. Also, they pointed out something that even I missed-- in 2003, Nintendo changed the "Official Nintendo Seal of Quality" to just plain the "Official Nintendo Seal." Basically, with Sony and MS, even though crap does end up on their systems, they at least have a huge approval process that devs must go through to minimize the ammounts of utter garbage on the system. Nintendo has no concept approval process at all though, so anything goes, including crap like Chicken Shoot which is a straight up port of a GBA game!too_much_eslim

Isn't this coming from a publication that is on the edge of bankruptcy? Publishers want to make money. Thats why gaming sites are here to rank games.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]This month EGM had a massive three page article about Nintendo's approval process, or lack therof, and how it's turning Wii and DS into garbage dumps for shovelware. It's truly shocking how low Nintendo's standards for third parties are in comparison to MS and Sony, and they're not doing anything to rectify it. Also, they pointed out something that even I missed-- in 2003, Nintendo changed the "Official Nintendo Seal of Quality" to just plain the "Official Nintendo Seal." Basically, with Sony and MS, even though crap does end up on their systems, they at least have a huge approval process that devs must go through to minimize the ammounts of utter garbage on the system. Nintendo has no concept approval process at all though, so anything goes, including crap like Chicken Shoot which is a straight up port of a GBA game!martingm1983

Isn't this coming from a publication that is on the edge of bankruptcy? Publishers want to make money. Thats why gaming sites are here to rank games.

EGM's parent company is going bankrupt, but EGM is still the #1 gaming mag in popularity. If Ziff Davis goes belly up, EGM will obviously be sold to another corporation like Viacom or News Corp (both of whom expressed interest in publishing it).

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]This month EGM had a massive three page article about Nintendo's approval process, or lack therof, and how it's turning Wii and DS into garbage dumps for shovelware. It's truly shocking how low Nintendo's standards for third parties are in comparison to MS and Sony, and they're not doing anything to rectify it. Also, they pointed out something that even I missed-- in 2003, Nintendo changed the "Official Nintendo Seal of Quality" to just plain the "Official Nintendo Seal." Basically, with Sony and MS, even though crap does end up on their systems, they at least have a huge approval process that devs must go through to minimize the ammounts of utter garbage on the system. Nintendo has no concept approval process at all though, so anything goes, including crap like Chicken Shoot which is a straight up port of a GBA game!Timstuff

Isn't this coming from a publication that is on the edge of bankruptcy? Publishers want to make money. Thats why gaming sites are here to rank games.

EGM's parent company is going bankrupt, but EGM is still the #1 gaming mag in popularity. If Ziff Davis goes belly up, EGM will obviously be sold to another corporation like Viacom or News Corp (both of whom expressed interest in publishing it).

I really like EGM compared to the other publications as well. I need to read this article. Going to be interesting.

The whole "Official Nintendo Seal of Quality" article? Yea, I had a good laugh at that one.

ImaPirate0202

Ha ha ha!!!! .....I hate your sig...:x

I wonder if Wii will ever get a port of Big Rigs? :(Timstuff

They get something better http://www.gamespot.com/wii/driving/rigracer2/index.html?tag=result;title;1

What do you expect from a System that practically caters to non-gaming casuals who don't know better?

Developers, most of them, are simply not taking the Wii hardware that seriously, despite the notorious claims of astronomical surging sales. Sure there are some games that are at least caliber to some degree that will be on Wii to cater to desperate sheep and some core gamers. But in actuallity, shovelware, minigames and more shovelware will and only flood the Wii library like the ebola virus. Simply because it caters to non-gaming casuals who don't give a damn about Red Steel or Manhunt 2.

This month EGM had a massive three page article about Nintendo's approval process, or lack therof, and how it's turning Wii and DS into garbage dumps for shovelware. It's truly shocking how low Nintendo's standards for third parties are in comparison to MS and Sony, and they're not doing anything to rectify it. Also, they pointed out something that even I missed-- in 2003, Nintendo changed the "Official Nintendo Seal of Quality" to just plain the "Official Nintendo Seal." Basically, with Sony and MS, even though crap does end up on their systems, they at least have a huge approval process that devs must go through to minimize the ammounts of utter garbage on the system. Nintendo has no concept approval process at all though, so anything goes, including crap like Chicken Shoot which is a straight up port of a GBA game!Timstuff

Dude are you serious right now? I have NEVER seen as many crap games as were released for the PS2. How the crap do you think it wound up winning last gen. Kids buy SHOVELWARE. The byproduct of being the most popular system is an excess of these junk titles. Movie and TV tie-ins, Dora the Explorer games.....etc... etc...

You honestly wnat me to believe that at this point the PS3 would turn these games away? I call B.S. on that one.

*OH* wait, yeah they don't have to because nobody is making any games for the PS3 because it's tanking soo bad.

Part of the reason why i think Wii will not last as long as the other 2 consoles.Navy_Sealz

[QUOTE="Navy_Sealz"]Part of the reason why i think Wii will not last as long as the other 2 consoles.flclempire

But the PS2 also had a great library of 3rd party games

I have my Wii for the games Nintendo makes.

And a few quality Third Party games.

Other than that, that's what I have my 360 for.

akai_reaver

I'm basically on your boat on all of your statement.

[QUOTE="Navy_Sealz"]Part of the reason why i think Wii will not last as long as the other 2 consoles.flclempire

Yes, but PS2 had hundreds of games to cover up a few bad ones, Wii does not.

What do you expect from a System that practically caters to non-gaming casuals who don't know better?

Developers, most of them, are simply not taking the Wii hardware that seriously, despite the notorious claims of astronomical surging sales. Sure there are some games that are at least caliber to some degree that will be on Wii to cater to desperate sheep and some core gamers. But in actuallity, shovelware, minigames and more shovelware will and only flood the Wii library like the ebola virus. Simply because it caters to non-gaming casuals who don't give a damn about Red Steel or Manhunt 2.

M8ingSeezun

I have my Wii for the games Nintendo makes.

And a few quality Third Party games.

Other than that, that's what I have my 360 for.

akai_reaver

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I wonder if Wii will ever get a port of Big Rigs? :(jet052006

They get something better http://www.gamespot.com/wii/driving/rigracer2/index.html?tag=result;title;1

Seriously... Big Rigs 2? I can't make this stuff up it's gotten so bad...

[QUOTE="flclempire"][QUOTE="Navy_Sealz"]Part of the reason why i think Wii will not last as long as the other 2 consoles.jet052006

But the PS2 also had a great library of 3rd party games

[QUOTE="Navy_Sealz"]Part of the reason why i think Wii will not last as long as the other 2 consoles.flclempire

THATS EXACTLY WHAT I JUST SAID....THANK YOU.

There is actually someone else with rational thought here. Anyone who owns a PS2, (which is pretty much everyone) has to admit that it is the single worst example of SHOVELWARE in gaming history.

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[QUOTE="flclempire"][QUOTE="Navy_Sealz"]Part of the reason why i think Wii will not last as long as the other 2 consoles.flclempire

But the PS2 also had a great library of 3rd party games

It didn't have enough shovelware for it to become a 3 page article in a magazine in its first year.

[QUOTE="flclempire"][QUOTE="jet052006"]

[QUOTE="flclempire"][QUOTE="Navy_Sealz"]Part of the reason why i think Wii will not last as long as the other 2 consoles.ZanuffC

But the PS2 also had a great library of 3rd party games

It didn't have enough shovelware for it to become a 3 page article in a magazine in its first year.

[QUOTE="flclempire"][QUOTE="jet052006"]

[QUOTE="flclempire"][QUOTE="Navy_Sealz"]Part of the reason why i think Wii will not last as long as the other 2 consoles.ZanuffC

But the PS2 also had a great library of 3rd party games

It didn't have enough shovelware for it to become a 3 page article in a magazine in its first year.

[QUOTE="jet052006"]

[QUOTE="flclempire"][QUOTE="Navy_Sealz"]Part of the reason why i think Wii will not last as long as the other 2 consoles.flclempire

But the PS2 also had a great library of 3rd party games

What?, the PS2 had pretty good 3rd party support even in its first year, it even launched with SSX which got a 9.4 score, while the only game i can think off that is out on the Wii (that is also 3rd party) that has gotten a AAA, is re4 which was seen on 2 different last gen consoles.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I wonder if Wii will ever get a port of Big Rigs? :(jet052006

They get something better http://www.gamespot.com/wii/driving/rigracer2/index.html?tag=result;title;1

Wow, i did not see that one coming.:lol:

Hmm, maybe they'll get a sequel to this gem too?

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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I wonder if Wii will ever get a port of Big Rigs? :(Renegade_Fury

They get something better http://www.gamespot.com/wii/driving/rigracer2/index.html?tag=result;title;1

Wow, i did not see that one coming.:lol:

Hmm, maybe they'll get a sequel to this gem too?

:o, Wow i didnt even know scores went that low, a .7(worthless):lol:

I wonder if Wii will ever get a port of Big Rigs? :(Timstuff

it will, coming next year, under the name "mario kart"

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I wonder if Wii will ever get a port of Big Rigs? :(batistafan99

it will, coming next year, under the name "mario kart"

C'mon, that's not true. You won't see "YOU'RE WINNER!" at the end of each race.

But seriously, all this shovelware (a few examples of which was actually on the PS2 in Europe) doesn't mean the Wii has no good games. There's still the first-party, and the third party that's actually trying.

People once complained that Nintendo was too strict with it's process and third parties, now they go the opposite route and people still complain.

How unsurprising, everyone and everything is damned for one reason or another. :|

People once complained that Nintendo was too strict with it's process and third parties, now they go the opposite route and people still complain.

How unsurprising, everyone and everything is damned for one reason or another. :|

-RPGamer-

It wasn't their strictness in terms of quality people had a problem with, because that's been a farce since Superman 64 anyway. It was their strictness when it came to violence in the SNES days, and their ridiculously high royalty fees in comparison to their competitors.

Every successful system is a "dump" for shovel-ware (PS1,PS2,SNES,GBA,etc.),but they have a lot of quality games to back them up.

The Wii doesn't have a lot of quality games, but it hasn't even been out for one year.

Since this is a common occurrence, I fail to see the significance of EGM's article.

This month EGM had a massive three page article about Nintendo's approval process, or lack therof, and how it's turning Wii and DS into garbage dumps for shovelware. It's truly shocking how low Nintendo's standards for third parties are in comparison to MS and Sony, and they're not doing anything to rectify it. Also, they pointed out something that even I missed-- in 2003, Nintendo changed the "Official Nintendo Seal of Quality" to just plain the "Official Nintendo Seal." Basically, with Sony and MS, even though crap does end up on their systems, they at least have a huge approval process that devs must go through to minimize the ammounts of utter garbage on the system. Nintendo has no concept approval process at all though, so anything goes, including crap like Chicken Shoot which is a straight up port of a GBA game!Timstuff

Yet sony let this crap onto the psp

http://au.gamespot.com/psp/strategy/pimpmyride/index.html?tag=result;title;0