I'm happy to see Fallout 3 over Fallout 1 and 2. IronBassseriously? why?
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]I'm happy to see Fallout 3 over Fallout 1 and 2. toast_burnerseriously? why? Because it's better than both.
[QUOTE="IronBass"]I'm happy to see Fallout 3 over Fallout 1 and 2. toast_burnerseriously? why?
It's not a good idea to say that F3 is better than the other Fallouts on this forum, and it's an even worse idea to explain why. I would recommend not bringing this up, because otherwise it wont end well :lol:.
[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="IronBass"]I'm happy to see Fallout 3 over Fallout 1 and 2. IronBassseriously? why? Because it's better than both. how?
These lists are always geared towards the severelynostalgic gamers. And Metroid Prime should be in the top ten.
1 -- The Legend of Zelda [NES, 1987]
2 -- Super Mario Bros. [NES, 1985]
3 -- Tetris [PC, 1984]
4 -- Grand Theft Auto III [PS2, 2001]
5 -- Half-Life 2 [PC, 2004]
6 -- Doom [PC, 1993]
7 -- Metroid [NES, 1986]
8 -- Final Fantasy III [SNES, 1994]
9 -- Super Mario Bros. 3 [NES, 1990]
10 -- Ms. Pac-Man [coin-op, 1981]
11 -- World of Warcraft [PC, 2004]
12 -- The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past [SNES, 1992]
13 -- Super Mario 64 [N64, 1996]
14 -- Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare [PS3/360/PC, 2007]
15 -- Final Fantasy VII [PS, 1997]
16 -- Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! [NES, 1987]
17 -- Chrono Trigger [SNES, 1995]
18 -- Resident Evil 4 [GameCube, 2005]
19 -- Metal Gear Solid [PS, 1998]
20 -- The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time [N64, 1998]
21 -- Super Metroid [SNES, 1994]
22 -- Contra [NES, 1988]
23 -- Galaga [coin-op, 1981]
24 -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night [PS, 1997]
25 -- Street Fighter II [coin-op, 1991]
26 -- God of War [PS2, 2005]
27 -- BioShock [360/PC, 2007]
28 -- Diablo II [PC, 2000]
29 -- Half-Life [PC, 1998]
30 -- The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivious [360/PC, 2006]
31 -- Tecmo Super Bowl [NES, 1991]
32 -- GoldenEye 007 [N64, 1997]
33 -- Super Mario Kart [SNES, 1992]
34 -- Sonic the Hedgehog [Genesis, 1991]
35 -- Starcraft [PC, 1998]
36 -- Civilization [PC, 1991]
37 -- SimCity [PC, 1989]
38 -- Mega Man 2 [NES, 1988]
39 -- Halo: Combat Evolved [Xbox, 2001]
40 -- Gran Turismo [PS, 1998]
41 -- Resident Evil 2 [PS, 1998]
42 -- Pokemon Red and Blue [GB, 1996]
43 -- Final Fantasy X [PS2, 2001]
44 -- EverQuest [PC, 1999]
45 -- Final Fantasy Tactics [PS, 1998]
46 -- Grand Theft Auto IV [PS3/360, 2008]
47 -- Super Mario World [SNES, 1991]
48 -- Deus Ex [PC, 2000]
49 -- Guitar Hero [PS2, 2005]
50 -- Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty [PS2, 2001]
51 -- Super Mario Galaxy [Wii, 2007]
52 -- Pac-Man [coin-op, 1980]
53 -- Battlefield 2 [PC, 2005]
54 -- Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic [Xbox, 2003]
55 -- Ico [PS2, 2001]
56 -- Uncharted 2: Among Thieves [PS3, 2009]
57 -- Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 [PS, 2000]
58 -- Mass Effect [360, 2007]
59 -- Adventure [2600, 1980]
60 -- Arkanoid [coin-op, 1986]
61 -- The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening [GB, 1993]
62 -- Star Wars: X-Wing [PC, 1993]
63 -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask [N64, 2000]
64 -- Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas [PS2, 2004]
65 -- Fallout 3 [PS3/360/PC, 2008]
66 -- Zork [PC, 1980]
67 -- Soul Calibur [DC, 1999]
68 -- Double Dragon [coin-op, 1987]
69 -- Dr. Mario [NES, 1990]
70 -- The Sims [PC, 2000]
71 -- Age of Empires [PC, 1997]
72 -- Mortal Kombat II [coin-op, 1993]
73 -- Rock Band 2 [PS3/360, 2008]
74 -- Tomb Raider [PS, 1996]
75 -- Super Bomberman [SNES, 1993]
76 -- Mario's Picross [GB, 1995]
77 -- Ninja Gaiden [NES, 1989]
78 -- Command & Conquer [PC, 1995]
79 -- Kingdom Hearts [PS2, 2002]
80 -- Final Fantasy II [SNES, 1991]
81 -- Super Mario Bros. 2 [NES, 1988]
82 -- Left 4 Dead [PC, 2008]
83 -- Okami [PS2, 2006]
84 -- Shadow of the Colossus [PS2, 2005]
85 -- Metroid Prime [GameCube, 2002]
86 -- Super Smash Bros. Melee [GameCube, 2001]
87 -- Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness [PC, 1995]
88 -- Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn [PC, 2000]
89 -- God of War II [PS2, 2007]
90 -- The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess [Wii, 2006]
91 -- Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal [PS2, 2004]
92 -- Medal of Honor: Allied Assault [PC, 2002]
93 -- Skies of Arcadia [DC, 2000]
94 -- The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker [GameCube, 2003]
95 -- Silent Hill 2 [PS2, 2001]
96 -- Counter-Strike [PC, 1999]
97 -- Sonic the Hedgehog 2 [Genesis, 1992]
98 -- Grand Theft Auto: Vice City [PS3/360, 2009]
99 -- Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time [PS2/Xbox/GameCube/PC, 2003]
100 -- Portal [PC/360, 2007]
101 -- The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind [PC, 2002]
102 -- Heroes of Might & Magic III [PC, 1999]
103 -- Donkey Kong [coin-op, 1981]
104 -- Batman: Arkham Asylum [PS3/360, 2009]
105 -- System Shock 2 [PC, 1999]
106 -- Resident Evil [PS, 1996]
107 -- Gears of War [360, 2006]
108 -- Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots [PS3, 2008]
109 -- Crash Bandicoot: Warped [PS, 1998]
110 -- Halo 2 [Xbox, 2004]
111 -- Tetris Attack [SNES, 1996]
112 -- Final Fantasy XII [PS2, 2006]
113 -- Earthbound [SNES, 1995]
114 -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri [PC, 1998]
115 -- Command & Conquer: Red alert [PC, 1996]
116 -- Advance Wars [GBA, 2001]
117 -- Fallout [PC, 1997]
118 -- Team Fortress 2 [PS3/360/PC, 2007]
119 -- Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory [Xbox, 2005]
120 -- Mega Man X [SNES, 1994]
121 -- Lemmings [PC, 1991]
122 -- Panzer Dragoon Saga [Saturn, 1998]
123 -- NHL '94 [Genesis/SNES, 1993]
124 -- Warlords [coin-op, 1980]
125 -- Shadowrun [SNES, 1993]
126 -- Twisted Metal 2 [PS, 1996]
127 -- Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee [PS, 1997]
128 -- Metroid Fusion [GBA, 2002]
129 -- Homeworld [PC, 1999]
130 -- Kingdom Hearts II [PS2, 2006]
131 -- Pilotwings [SNES, 1991]
132 -- Quake II [PC, 1997]
133 -- Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II [PC, 1997]
134 -- Borderlands [PS3/360/PC, 2009]
135 -- Final Fight [coin-op, 1989]
136 -- Star Fox [SNES, 1993]
137 -- Madden NFL '99 [PS/N64/PC, 1999]
138 -- Call of Duty 2 [360/PC, 2005]
139 -- Wolfenstein 3D [PC, 1992]
140 -- Diablo [PC, 1996]
141 -- Civilization IV [PC, 2005]
142 -- Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle [PC, 1993]
143 -- Assassin's Creed [PS3/360, 2007]
144 -- Burnout 3: Takedown [PS2/Xbox, 2004]
145 -- Unreal Tournament 2004 [PC, 2004]
146 -- Power Stone 2 [DC, 2000]
147 -- Super Castlevania IV [SNES, 1991]
148 -- Super Mario RPG [SNES, 1996]
149 -- Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos [PC, 2002]
150 -- ActRaiser [SNES, 1991]
151 -- Fable [Xbox, 2004]
152 -- Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht [PS2, 2003]
153 -- Asteroids [coin-op, 1979]
154 -- LittleBigPlanet [PS3, 2008]
155 -- Crackdown [360, 2007]
156 -- Gauntlet [coin-op, 1985]
157 -- Devil May Cry [PS2, 2001]
158 -- Pong [coin-op, 1972]
159 -- Battlefield 1942 [PC, 2002]
160 -- Thief [PC, 1998]
161 -- Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved [360, 2005]
162 -- Far Cry [PC, 2004]
163 -- Robotron: 2084 [coin-op, 1982]
164 -- X-COM: UFO Defense [PC, 1993]
165 -- Peggle [PC, 2007]
166 -- King's Quest VI [PC, 1992]
167 -- Doom II [PC, 1994]
168 -- Tempest 2000 [Jaguar, 1994]
169 -- Braid [360, 2008]
170 -- Ridge Racer [PS, 1995]
171 -- Bully [PS2, 2006]
172 -- Ikaruga [GameCube, 2006]
173 -- Lode Runner [Apple II, 1983]
174 -- Gunstar Heroes [Genesis, 1993]
175 -- Dig Dug [coin-op, 1982]
176 -- Castlevania [NES, 1988]
177 -- Tekken 3 [coin-op, 1997]
178 -- Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney [DS, 2005]
179 -- NBA Jam: Tournament Edition [coin-op, 1993]
180 -- Max Payne [PC, 2001]
181 -- Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 [PS3/360/PC, 2009]
182 -- Samurai Shodown [Neo Geo, 1993]
183 -- NFL 2K5 [PS2/Xbox, 2004]
184 -- Vagrant Story [PS, 2000]
185 -- Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island [SNES, 1995]
186 -- Marble Madness [coin-op, 1984]
187 -- Infamous [PS3, 2009]
188 -- Planescape: Torment [PC, 1999]
189 -- Kid Icarus [NES, 1986]
190 -- The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay [Xbox, 2004]
191 -- Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater [PS2, 2004]
192 -- Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem [GameCube, 2002]
193 -- Jak 3 [PS2, 2004]
194 -- Marvel vs. Capcom 2 [DC, 2002]
195 -- Ultima [PC, 1981]
196 -- Call of Duty [PC, 2003]
197 -- NHL 09 [PS3/360, 2008]
198 -- Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow [Xbox, 2004]
199 -- Tactics Ogre [PS, 1997]
200 -- Beyond Good and Evil [PS2/Xbox/GameCube, 2003]
^The whole list. Continue discussing what should and shouldn't be there.
Just saw the full list, it's not too bad, yah there are lots of flaws but overall it's not too bad. Surprised at LoZ getting #1.
Biggest problem though is Galaxy is only at #51 and Yoshi's Island is all the way at 185.
[QUOTE="toast_burner"]do you not like turn based games?IronBassI do. I love them. then how can you prefer FO3 over FO2? FO2 is much better even by todays standards.
I do. I love them. then how can you prefer FO3 over FO2? FO2 is much better even by todays standards.[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]do you not like turn based games?toast_burner
You do not want to go down this route. Just trust me when I say it isn't worth it, you will be here for a while. Thoughpeople are allowed to like diffrent games you know?
then how can you prefer FO3 over FO2? FO2 is much better even by todays standards.toast_burnerEhm, no, not really, I think Fallout 3 is better. Less RPGish, but overall better.
[QUOTE="toast_burner"]
I do. I love them.IronBassthen how can you prefer FO3 over FO2? FO2 is much better even by todays standards.
You do not want to go down this route. Just trust me when I say it isn't worth it, you will be here for a while. Thoughpeople are allowed to like diffrent games you know?
this is the first time ive heard any one say fallout 3 is better then fallout 1 and 2 so ive had quite a shock.[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] then how can you prefer FO3 over FO2? FO2 is much better even by todays standards.
toast_burner
You do not want to go down this route. Just trust me when I say it isn't worth it, you will be here for a while. Thoughpeople are allowed to like diffrent games you know?
this is the first time ive heard any one say fallout 3 is better then fallout 1 and 2 so ive had quite a shock.That's because when people say Fallout 3 is bettersomeone goes on a rage and gets very upset. That's why it's better just to say nothing at all, because you just end up overwhelmed with people making personal insults and repeatedly telling you the same thing over and over again. People take it very personally. That's the nature of this forum, mob rules.
Now that I see the full list I can say it is made of fail. Just at a glance I see that the have Bully higher ranked than MGS3. Really!
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What? Bully was an excellent game. MGS3 was also an excellent game, and I do prefer it, but regardless they are both excellent games. I wouldn't put them that far apart myself.
WTF, they gave Halo 3 9.75/10 and yet it's still not on their top 200. :?angelkimneHalo CE got the nod. Most of GI prefers CE to Halo 2 or 3.
WTF, they gave Halo 3 9.75/10 and yet it's still not on their top 200. :?angelkimneWhich confirms that Halo 3 received most of its high scores because of hype and not because critics actually considered it such a good game. Anyways that Xenosaga is there and Xenogears is not is annoying to say the least. Xenogears should receive more praise! I don't get why this game is not appreciated in the same level as FFVI, LoZ or Chrono Trigger.
[QUOTE="angelkimne"]WTF, they gave Halo 3 9.75/10 and yet it's still not on their top 200. :?SpruceCabooseHalo CE got the nod. Most of GI prefers CE to Halo 2 or 3.
Interesting that Halo 2 is on there though. I think he might have missed it though, I doubt it's not on the list if the other two are.
EDIT: Had a look over the list and it's not. Strange, Halo 2 was at 110 aswell. I would not have put Halo 2 above Halo 3, that's nuts if you ask me, espically when 90 places down it's stil not there.
[QUOTE="angelkimne"]WTF, they gave Halo 3 9.75/10 and yet it's still not on their top 200. :?RedruM_IWhich confirms that Halo 3 received most of its high scores because of hype and not because critics actually considered it such a good game. Anyways that Xenosaga is there and Xenogears is not is annoying to say the least. Xenogears should receive more praise! I don't get why this game is not appreciated in the same level as FFVI, LoZ or Chrono Trigger. Yeah, that is the logical conclusion to that one...
Which confirms that Halo 3 received most of its high scores because of hype and not because critics actually considered it such a good game.RedruM_IA list made by one site confirms that? Eh... no. At all.
Halo CE got the nod. Most of GI prefers CE to Halo 2 or 3.[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]WTF, they gave Halo 3 9.75/10 and yet it's still not on their top 200. :?WasntAvailable
Intrerting that Halo 2 is on there though. I think he might have missed it though, I doubt it's not on the list if the other two are.
Its not on the list. My thinking would be thus: Halo CE invigorated FPS games on home consoles. Halo 2 introduced the Xbox Live formula to Halo. Halo 3 did not have anything "new" for the series really.Good to see ... Crackdown on there though.Floppy_JimYes, yes it is. I loved Crackdown. Thought it was very overlooked by many people.
KOTOR should be higher imoWarEagle1357Most definitely and maybe around the twenty's or even higer for a more accurate assessment in my opinion. Call of Duty 4 is relatively high on that list, and there are certainly better game than this one. Anyway I am just glad that Resident Evil 4 came in at number 18, Resident Evil 2 at number 41, and Resident Evil 1 at number 106.
[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Halo CE got the nod. Most of GI prefers CE to Halo 2 or 3. SpruceCaboose
Intrerting that Halo 2 is on there though. I think he might have missed it though, I doubt it's not on the list if the other two are.
Its not on the list. My thinking would be thus: Halo CE invigorated FPS games on home consoles. Halo 2 introduced the Xbox Live formula to Halo. Halo 3 did not have anything "new" for the series really.Mabye, the list seems to take into consideration time diffrences aswell. Personally I don't think that's a good way to compare how good a game is. We arn't in 2004 anymore, if a better version it out then it's still better. I will enjoy Halo 3 over 2 if I were to play either for the first time (Which is physically impossible.).
[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]Which confirms that Halo 3 received most of its high scores because of hype and not because critics actually considered it such a good game.IronBassA list made by one site confirms that? Eh... no. At all. Well, confirms it for me. I still have no other explanation as to why such an average game received such high scores. Yahtzee's review is probably the one I agree with the most: fun, massively hyped game but ultimately average.
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Good to see ... Crackdown on there though.SpruceCabooseYes, yes it is. I loved Crackdown. Thought it was very overlooked by many people. Agreed, although I don't like that they're using the same city for the sequel. This left me nonplussed.
[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"]Which confirms that Halo 3 received most of its high scores because of hype and not because critics actually considered it such a good game.RedruM_IA list made by one site confirms that? Eh... no. At all. Well, confirms it for me. I still have no other explanation as to why such an average game received such high scores. Yahtzee's review is probably the one I agree with the most: fun, massively hyped game but ultimately average. seeing as how little big planet and MGS 4 are so low on the list does it also confirm that they're overrated? And seeing as how crackdown outscored MGS 4 and it's only 1 slot under little big planet does that mean both of those games deserve crackdown scores?
More like Top 200 Nostalgic games of all time.
The only one that even deserves to be in the Top 100 in the Top 10 you posted is Half Life 2.
1 -- The Legend of Zelda [NES, 1987]
2 -- Super Mario Bros. [NES, 1985]
3 -- Tetris [PC, 1984]
4 -- Grand Theft Auto III [PS2, 2001]
5 -- Half-Life 2 [PC, 2004]
6 -- Doom [PC, 1993]
7 -- Metroid [NES, 1986]
8 -- Final Fantasy III [SNES, 1994]
9 -- Super Mario Bros. 3 [NES, 1990]
10 -- Ms. Pac-Man [coin-op, 1981]
11 -- World of Warcraft [PC, 2004]
12 -- The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past [SNES, 1992]
13 -- Super Mario 64 [N64, 1996]
14 -- Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare [PS3/360/PC, 2007]
15 -- Final Fantasy VII [PS, 1997]
16 -- Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! [NES, 1987]
17 -- Chrono Trigger [SNES, 1995]
18 -- Resident Evil 4 [GameCube, 2005]
19 -- Metal Gear Solid [PS, 1998]
20 -- The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time [N64, 1998]
21 -- Super Metroid [SNES, 1994]
22 -- Contra [NES, 1988]
23 -- Galaga [coin-op, 1981]
24 -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night [PS, 1997]
25 -- Street Fighter II [coin-op, 1991]
26 -- God of War [PS2, 2005]
27 -- BioShock [360/PC, 2007]
28 -- Diablo II [PC, 2000]
29 -- Half-Life [PC, 1998]
30 -- The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivious [360/PC, 2006]
31 -- Tecmo Super Bowl [NES, 1991]
32 -- GoldenEye 007 [N64, 1997]
33 -- Super Mario Kart [SNES, 1992]
34 -- Sonic the Hedgehog [Genesis, 1991]
35 -- Starcraft [PC, 1998]
36 -- Civilization [PC, 1991]
37 -- SimCity [PC, 1989]
38 -- Mega Man 2 [NES, 1988]
39 -- Halo: Combat Evolved [Xbox, 2001]
40 -- Gran Turismo [PS, 1998]
41 -- Resident Evil 2 [PS, 1998]
42 -- Pokemon Red and Blue [GB, 1996]
43 -- Final Fantasy X [PS2, 2001]
44 -- EverQuest [PC, 1999]
45 -- Final Fantasy Tactics [PS, 1998]
46 -- Grand Theft Auto IV [PS3/360, 2008]
47 -- Super Mario World [SNES, 1991]
48 -- Deus Ex [PC, 2000]
49 -- Guitar Hero [PS2, 2005]
50 -- Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty [PS2, 2001]
51 -- Super Mario Galaxy [Wii, 2007]
52 -- Pac-Man [coin-op, 1980]
53 -- Battlefield 2 [PC, 2005]
54 -- Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic [Xbox, 2003]
55 -- Ico [PS2, 2001]
56 -- Uncharted 2: Among Thieves [PS3, 2009]
57 -- Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 [PS, 2000]
58 -- Mass Effect [360, 2007]
59 -- Adventure [2600, 1980]
60 -- Arkanoid [coin-op, 1986]
61 -- The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening [GB, 1993]
62 -- Star Wars: X-Wing [PC, 1993]
63 -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask [N64, 2000]
64 -- Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas [PS2, 2004]
65 -- Fallout 3 [PS3/360/PC, 2008]
66 -- Zork [PC, 1980]
67 -- Soul Calibur [DC, 1999]
68 -- Double Dragon [coin-op, 1987]
69 -- Dr. Mario [NES, 1990]
70 -- The Sims [PC, 2000]
71 -- Age of Empires [PC, 1997]
72 -- Mortal Kombat II [coin-op, 1993]
73 -- Rock Band 2 [PS3/360, 2008]
74 -- Tomb Raider [PS, 1996]
75 -- Super Bomberman [SNES, 1993]
76 -- Mario's Picross [GB, 1995]
77 -- Ninja Gaiden [NES, 1989]
78 -- Command & Conquer [PC, 1995]
79 -- Kingdom Hearts [PS2, 2002]
80 -- Final Fantasy II [SNES, 1991]
81 -- Super Mario Bros. 2 [NES, 1988]
82 -- Left 4 Dead [PC, 2008]
83 -- Okami [PS2, 2006]
84 -- Shadow of the Colossus [PS2, 2005]
85 -- Metroid Prime [GameCube, 2002]
86 -- Super Smash Bros. Melee [GameCube, 2001]
87 -- Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness [PC, 1995]
88 -- Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn [PC, 2000]
89 -- God of War II [PS2, 2007]
90 -- The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess [Wii, 2006]
91 -- Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal [PS2, 2004]
92 -- Medal of Honor: Allied Assault [PC, 2002]
93 -- Skies of Arcadia [DC, 2000]
94 -- The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker [GameCube, 2003]
95 -- Silent Hill 2 [PS2, 2001]
96 -- Counter-Strike [PC, 1999]
97 -- Sonic the Hedgehog 2 [Genesis, 1992]
98 -- Grand Theft Auto: Vice City [PS3/360, 2009]
99 -- Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time [PS2/Xbox/GameCube/PC, 2003]
100 -- Portal [PC/360, 2007]
101 -- The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind [PC, 2002]
102 -- Heroes of Might & Magic III [PC, 1999]
103 -- Donkey Kong [coin-op, 1981]
104 -- Batman: Arkham Asylum [PS3/360, 2009]
105 -- System Shock 2 [PC, 1999]
106 -- Resident Evil [PS, 1996]
107 -- Gears of War [360, 2006]
108 -- Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots [PS3, 2008]
109 -- Crash Bandicoot: Warped [PS, 1998]
110 -- Halo 2 [Xbox, 2004]
111 -- Tetris Attack [SNES, 1996]
112 -- Final Fantasy XII [PS2, 2006]
113 -- Earthbound [SNES, 1995]
114 -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri [PC, 1998]
115 -- Command & Conquer: Red alert [PC, 1996]
116 -- Advance Wars [GBA, 2001]
117 -- Fallout [PC, 1997]
118 -- Team Fortress 2 [PS3/360/PC, 2007]
119 -- Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory [Xbox, 2005]
120 -- Mega Man X [SNES, 1994]
121 -- Lemmings [PC, 1991]
122 -- Panzer Dragoon Saga [Saturn, 1998]
123 -- NHL '94 [Genesis/SNES, 1993]
124 -- Warlords [coin-op, 1980]
125 -- Shadowrun [SNES, 1993]
126 -- Twisted Metal 2 [PS, 1996]
127 -- Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee [PS, 1997]
128 -- Metroid Fusion [GBA, 2002]
129 -- Homeworld [PC, 1999]
130 -- Kingdom Hearts II [PS2, 2006]
131 -- Pilotwings [SNES, 1991]
132 -- Quake II [PC, 1997]
133 -- Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II [PC, 1997]
134 -- Borderlands [PS3/360/PC, 2009]
135 -- Final Fight [coin-op, 1989]
136 -- Star Fox [SNES, 1993]
137 -- Madden NFL '99 [PS/N64/PC, 1999]
138 -- Call of Duty 2 [360/PC, 2005]
139 -- Wolfenstein 3D [PC, 1992]
140 -- Diablo [PC, 1996]
141 -- Civilization IV [PC, 2005]
142 -- Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle [PC, 1993]
143 -- Assassin's Creed [PS3/360, 2007]
144 -- Burnout 3: Takedown [PS2/Xbox, 2004]
145 -- Unreal Tournament 2004 [PC, 2004]
146 -- Power Stone 2 [DC, 2000]
147 -- Super Castlevania IV [SNES, 1991]
148 -- Super Mario RPG [SNES, 1996]
149 -- Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos [PC, 2002]
150 -- ActRaiser [SNES, 1991]
151 -- Fable [Xbox, 2004]
152 -- Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht [PS2, 2003]
153 -- Asteroids [coin-op, 1979]
154 -- LittleBigPlanet [PS3, 2008]
155 -- Crackdown [360, 2007]
156 -- Gauntlet [coin-op, 1985]
157 -- Devil May Cry [PS2, 2001]
158 -- Pong [coin-op, 1972]
159 -- Battlefield 1942 [PC, 2002]
160 -- Thief [PC, 1998]
161 -- Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved [360, 2005]
162 -- Far Cry [PC, 2004]
163 -- Robotron: 2084 [coin-op, 1982]
164 -- X-COM: UFO Defense [PC, 1993]
165 -- Peggle [PC, 2007]
166 -- King's Quest VI [PC, 1992]
167 -- Doom II [PC, 1994]
168 -- Tempest 2000 [Jaguar, 1994]
169 -- Braid [360, 2008]
170 -- Ridge Racer [PS, 1995]
171 -- Bully [PS2, 2006]
172 -- Ikaruga [GameCube, 2006]
173 -- Lode Runner [Apple II, 1983]
174 -- Gunstar Heroes [Genesis, 1993]
175 -- Dig Dug [coin-op, 1982]
176 -- Castlevania [NES, 1988]
177 -- Tekken 3 [coin-op, 1997]
178 -- Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney [DS, 2005]
179 -- NBA Jam: Tournament Edition [coin-op, 1993]
180 -- Max Payne [PC, 2001]
181 -- Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 [PS3/360/PC, 2009]
182 -- Samurai Shodown [Neo Geo, 1993]
183 -- NFL 2K5 [PS2/Xbox, 2004]
184 -- Vagrant Story [PS, 2000]
185 -- Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island [SNES, 1995]
186 -- Marble Madness [coin-op, 1984]
187 -- Infamous [PS3, 2009]
188 -- Planescape: Torment [PC, 1999]
189 -- Kid Icarus [NES, 1986]
190 -- The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay [Xbox, 2004]
191 -- Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater [PS2, 2004]
192 -- Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem [GameCube, 2002]
193 -- Jak 3 [PS2, 2004]
194 -- Marvel vs. Capcom 2 [DC, 2002]
195 -- Ultima [PC, 1981]
196 -- Call of Duty [PC, 2003]
197 -- NHL 09 [PS3/360, 2008]
198 -- Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow [Xbox, 2004]
199 -- Tactics Ogre [PS, 1997]
200 -- Beyond Good and Evil [PS2/Xbox/GameCube, 2003]^The whole list. Continue discussing what should and shouldn't be there.
Floppy_Jim
There's so much wrong with this list it's not even funny. Kingdom Hearts 2 is better than Quake 2?
inFamous is better than MGS3 and Eternal Darkness?
Batman: AA is better than Unreal Tournament and DOOM II?
Rock Band 2 is better than RE?
Guitar Hero is better than MGS2, SoulCalibur, KoTOR, etc?
God of War and WoW are better than StarCraft? Who made this list?
Wow that is a shocking list. The original Zelda ahead of Ocarina of Time and Super Mario World thats so wrong.
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]
1 -- The Legend of Zelda [NES, 1987]
2 -- Super Mario Bros. [NES, 1985]
3 -- Tetris [PC, 1984]
4 -- Grand Theft Auto III [PS2, 2001]
5 -- Half-Life 2 [PC, 2004]
6 -- Doom [PC, 1993]
7 -- Metroid [NES, 1986]
8 -- Final Fantasy III [SNES, 1994]
9 -- Super Mario Bros. 3 [NES, 1990]
10 -- Ms. Pac-Man [coin-op, 1981]
11 -- World of Warcraft [PC, 2004]
12 -- The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past [SNES, 1992]
13 -- Super Mario 64 [N64, 1996]
14 -- Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare [PS3/360/PC, 2007]
15 -- Final Fantasy VII [PS, 1997]
16 -- Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! [NES, 1987]
17 -- Chrono Trigger [SNES, 1995]
18 -- Resident Evil 4 [GameCube, 2005]
19 -- Metal Gear Solid [PS, 1998]
20 -- The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time [N64, 1998]
21 -- Super Metroid [SNES, 1994]
22 -- Contra [NES, 1988]
23 -- Galaga [coin-op, 1981]
24 -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night [PS, 1997]
25 -- Street Fighter II [coin-op, 1991]
26 -- God of War [PS2, 2005]
27 -- BioShock [360/PC, 2007]
28 -- Diablo II [PC, 2000]
29 -- Half-Life [PC, 1998]
30 -- The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivious [360/PC, 2006]
31 -- Tecmo Super Bowl [NES, 1991]
32 -- GoldenEye 007 [N64, 1997]
33 -- Super Mario Kart [SNES, 1992]
34 -- Sonic the Hedgehog [Genesis, 1991]
35 -- Starcraft [PC, 1998]
36 -- Civilization [PC, 1991]
37 -- SimCity [PC, 1989]
38 -- Mega Man 2 [NES, 1988]
39 -- Halo: Combat Evolved [Xbox, 2001]
40 -- Gran Turismo [PS, 1998]
41 -- Resident Evil 2 [PS, 1998]
42 -- Pokemon Red and Blue [GB, 1996]
43 -- Final Fantasy X [PS2, 2001]
44 -- EverQuest [PC, 1999]
45 -- Final Fantasy Tactics [PS, 1998]
46 -- Grand Theft Auto IV [PS3/360, 2008]
47 -- Super Mario World [SNES, 1991]
48 -- Deus Ex [PC, 2000]
49 -- Guitar Hero [PS2, 2005]
50 -- Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty [PS2, 2001]
51 -- Super Mario Galaxy [Wii, 2007]
52 -- Pac-Man [coin-op, 1980]
53 -- Battlefield 2 [PC, 2005]
54 -- Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic [Xbox, 2003]
55 -- Ico [PS2, 2001]
56 -- Uncharted 2: Among Thieves [PS3, 2009]
57 -- Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 [PS, 2000]
58 -- Mass Effect [360, 2007]
59 -- Adventure [2600, 1980]
60 -- Arkanoid [coin-op, 1986]
61 -- The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening [GB, 1993]
62 -- Star Wars: X-Wing [PC, 1993]
63 -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask [N64, 2000]
64 -- Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas [PS2, 2004]
65 -- Fallout 3 [PS3/360/PC, 2008]
66 -- Zork [PC, 1980]
67 -- Soul Calibur [DC, 1999]
68 -- Double Dragon [coin-op, 1987]
69 -- Dr. Mario [NES, 1990]
70 -- The Sims [PC, 2000]
71 -- Age of Empires [PC, 1997]
72 -- Mortal Kombat II [coin-op, 1993]
73 -- Rock Band 2 [PS3/360, 2008]
74 -- Tomb Raider [PS, 1996]
75 -- Super Bomberman [SNES, 1993]
76 -- Mario's Picross [GB, 1995]
77 -- Ninja Gaiden [NES, 1989]
78 -- Command & Conquer [PC, 1995]
79 -- Kingdom Hearts [PS2, 2002]
80 -- Final Fantasy II [SNES, 1991]
81 -- Super Mario Bros. 2 [NES, 1988]
82 -- Left 4 Dead [PC, 2008]
83 -- Okami [PS2, 2006]
84 -- Shadow of the Colossus [PS2, 2005]
85 -- Metroid Prime [GameCube, 2002]
86 -- Super Smash Bros. Melee [GameCube, 2001]
87 -- Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness [PC, 1995]
88 -- Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn [PC, 2000]
89 -- God of War II [PS2, 2007]
90 -- The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess [Wii, 2006]
91 -- Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal [PS2, 2004]
92 -- Medal of Honor: Allied Assault [PC, 2002]
93 -- Skies of Arcadia [DC, 2000]
94 -- The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker [GameCube, 2003]
95 -- Silent Hill 2 [PS2, 2001]
96 -- Counter-Strike [PC, 1999]
97 -- Sonic the Hedgehog 2 [Genesis, 1992]
98 -- Grand Theft Auto: Vice City [PS3/360, 2009]
99 -- Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time [PS2/Xbox/GameCube/PC, 2003]
100 -- Portal [PC/360, 2007]
101 -- The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind [PC, 2002]
102 -- Heroes of Might & Magic III [PC, 1999]
103 -- Donkey Kong [coin-op, 1981]
104 -- Batman: Arkham Asylum [PS3/360, 2009]
105 -- System Shock 2 [PC, 1999]
106 -- Resident Evil [PS, 1996]
107 -- Gears of War [360, 2006]
108 -- Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots [PS3, 2008]
109 -- Crash Bandicoot: Warped [PS, 1998]
110 -- Halo 2 [Xbox, 2004]
111 -- Tetris Attack [SNES, 1996]
112 -- Final Fantasy XII [PS2, 2006]
113 -- Earthbound [SNES, 1995]
114 -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri [PC, 1998]
115 -- Command & Conquer: Red alert [PC, 1996]
116 -- Advance Wars [GBA, 2001]
117 -- Fallout [PC, 1997]
118 -- Team Fortress 2 [PS3/360/PC, 2007]
119 -- Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory [Xbox, 2005]
120 -- Mega Man X [SNES, 1994]
121 -- Lemmings [PC, 1991]
122 -- Panzer Dragoon Saga [Saturn, 1998]
123 -- NHL '94 [Genesis/SNES, 1993]
124 -- Warlords [coin-op, 1980]
125 -- Shadowrun [SNES, 1993]
126 -- Twisted Metal 2 [PS, 1996]
127 -- Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee [PS, 1997]
128 -- Metroid Fusion [GBA, 2002]
129 -- Homeworld [PC, 1999]
130 -- Kingdom Hearts II [PS2, 2006]
131 -- Pilotwings [SNES, 1991]
132 -- Quake II [PC, 1997]
133 -- Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II [PC, 1997]
134 -- Borderlands [PS3/360/PC, 2009]
135 -- Final Fight [coin-op, 1989]
136 -- Star Fox [SNES, 1993]
137 -- Madden NFL '99 [PS/N64/PC, 1999]
138 -- Call of Duty 2 [360/PC, 2005]
139 -- Wolfenstein 3D [PC, 1992]
140 -- Diablo [PC, 1996]
141 -- Civilization IV [PC, 2005]
142 -- Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle [PC, 1993]
143 -- Assassin's Creed [PS3/360, 2007]
144 -- Burnout 3: Takedown [PS2/Xbox, 2004]
145 -- Unreal Tournament 2004 [PC, 2004]
146 -- Power Stone 2 [DC, 2000]
147 -- Super Castlevania IV [SNES, 1991]
148 -- Super Mario RPG [SNES, 1996]
149 -- Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos [PC, 2002]
150 -- ActRaiser [SNES, 1991]
151 -- Fable [Xbox, 2004]
152 -- Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht [PS2, 2003]
153 -- Asteroids [coin-op, 1979]
154 -- LittleBigPlanet [PS3, 2008]
155 -- Crackdown [360, 2007]
156 -- Gauntlet [coin-op, 1985]
157 -- Devil May Cry [PS2, 2001]
158 -- Pong [coin-op, 1972]
159 -- Battlefield 1942 [PC, 2002]
160 -- Thief [PC, 1998]
161 -- Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved [360, 2005]
162 -- Far Cry [PC, 2004]
163 -- Robotron: 2084 [coin-op, 1982]
164 -- X-COM: UFO Defense [PC, 1993]
165 -- Peggle [PC, 2007]
166 -- King's Quest VI [PC, 1992]
167 -- Doom II [PC, 1994]
168 -- Tempest 2000 [Jaguar, 1994]
169 -- Braid [360, 2008]
170 -- Ridge Racer [PS, 1995]
171 -- Bully [PS2, 2006]
172 -- Ikaruga [GameCube, 2006]
173 -- Lode Runner [Apple II, 1983]
174 -- Gunstar Heroes [Genesis, 1993]
175 -- Dig Dug [coin-op, 1982]
176 -- Castlevania [NES, 1988]
177 -- Tekken 3 [coin-op, 1997]
178 -- Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney [DS, 2005]
179 -- NBA Jam: Tournament Edition [coin-op, 1993]
180 -- Max Payne [PC, 2001]
181 -- Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 [PS3/360/PC, 2009]
182 -- Samurai Shodown [Neo Geo, 1993]
183 -- NFL 2K5 [PS2/Xbox, 2004]
184 -- Vagrant Story [PS, 2000]
185 -- Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island [SNES, 1995]
186 -- Marble Madness [coin-op, 1984]
187 -- Infamous [PS3, 2009]
188 -- Planescape: Torment [PC, 1999]
189 -- Kid Icarus [NES, 1986]
190 -- The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay [Xbox, 2004]
191 -- Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater [PS2, 2004]
192 -- Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem [GameCube, 2002]
193 -- Jak 3 [PS2, 2004]
194 -- Marvel vs. Capcom 2 [DC, 2002]
195 -- Ultima [PC, 1981]
196 -- Call of Duty [PC, 2003]
197 -- NHL 09 [PS3/360, 2008]
198 -- Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow [Xbox, 2004]
199 -- Tactics Ogre [PS, 1997]
200 -- Beyond Good and Evil [PS2/Xbox/GameCube, 2003]^The whole list. Continue discussing what should and shouldn't be there.
DarkLink77
There's so much wrong with this list it's not even funny. Kingdom Hearts 2 is better than Quake 2?
inFamous is better than MGS3 and Eternal Darkness?
Batman: AA is better than Unreal Tournament and DOOM II?
Rock Band 2 is better than RE?
Guitar Hero is better than MGS2, SoulCalibur, KoTOR, etc?
God of War and WoW are better than StarCraft? Who made this list?
yes KH2 is better than Quake 2 in my opinion. And in your opinion quake 2 is better than KH2. And for someone else they are both crap. See, its all subjective, its impossible to make a list like that. But of course thers many games that can be consdered better than others and deserve higher spots than others.
It's at least brave that they're not publishing the same kind of list as always with OoT on top and whatnot, but I think they've put too much focus on innovation. Of course, innovation is important in a game, but there's absolutely no reason to even consider the original Legend of Zelda the best game of the series. That it was the first seems like a lacking argumentation. The same basically goes for Super Mario Bros. Super Mario 64 was at least as innovative, as it was vital in the creation of the 3D gaming era.
Also, if they went by innovative gameplay, Goldeney should be way higher as it is one of the most influential FPS games ever.[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]
1 -- The Legend of Zelda [NES, 1987]
2 -- Super Mario Bros. [NES, 1985]
3 -- Tetris [PC, 1984]
4 -- Grand Theft Auto III [PS2, 2001]
5 -- Half-Life 2 [PC, 2004]
6 -- Doom [PC, 1993]
7 -- Metroid [NES, 1986]
8 -- Final Fantasy III [SNES, 1994]
9 -- Super Mario Bros. 3 [NES, 1990]
10 -- Ms. Pac-Man [coin-op, 1981]
11 -- World of Warcraft [PC, 2004]
12 -- The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past [SNES, 1992]
13 -- Super Mario 64 [N64, 1996]
14 -- Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare [PS3/360/PC, 2007]
15 -- Final Fantasy VII [PS, 1997]
16 -- Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! [NES, 1987]
17 -- Chrono Trigger [SNES, 1995]
18 -- Resident Evil 4 [GameCube, 2005]
19 -- Metal Gear Solid [PS, 1998]
20 -- The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time [N64, 1998]
21 -- Super Metroid [SNES, 1994]
22 -- Contra [NES, 1988]
23 -- Galaga [coin-op, 1981]
24 -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night [PS, 1997]
25 -- Street Fighter II [coin-op, 1991]
26 -- God of War [PS2, 2005]
27 -- BioShock [360/PC, 2007]
28 -- Diablo II [PC, 2000]
29 -- Half-Life [PC, 1998]
30 -- The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivious [360/PC, 2006]
31 -- Tecmo Super Bowl [NES, 1991]
32 -- GoldenEye 007 [N64, 1997]
33 -- Super Mario Kart [SNES, 1992]
34 -- Sonic the Hedgehog [Genesis, 1991]
35 -- Starcraft [PC, 1998]
36 -- Civilization [PC, 1991]
37 -- SimCity [PC, 1989]
38 -- Mega Man 2 [NES, 1988]
39 -- Halo: Combat Evolved [Xbox, 2001]
40 -- Gran Turismo [PS, 1998]
41 -- Resident Evil 2 [PS, 1998]
42 -- Pokemon Red and Blue [GB, 1996]
43 -- Final Fantasy X [PS2, 2001]
44 -- EverQuest [PC, 1999]
45 -- Final Fantasy Tactics [PS, 1998]
46 -- Grand Theft Auto IV [PS3/360, 2008]
47 -- Super Mario World [SNES, 1991]
48 -- Deus Ex [PC, 2000]
49 -- Guitar Hero [PS2, 2005]
50 -- Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty [PS2, 2001]
51 -- Super Mario Galaxy [Wii, 2007]
52 -- Pac-Man [coin-op, 1980]
53 -- Battlefield 2 [PC, 2005]
54 -- Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic [Xbox, 2003]
55 -- Ico [PS2, 2001]
56 -- Uncharted 2: Among Thieves [PS3, 2009]
57 -- Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 [PS, 2000]
58 -- Mass Effect [360, 2007]
59 -- Adventure [2600, 1980]
60 -- Arkanoid [coin-op, 1986]
61 -- The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening [GB, 1993]
62 -- Star Wars: X-Wing [PC, 1993]
63 -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask [N64, 2000]
64 -- Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas [PS2, 2004]
65 -- Fallout 3 [PS3/360/PC, 2008]
66 -- Zork [PC, 1980]
67 -- Soul Calibur [DC, 1999]
68 -- Double Dragon [coin-op, 1987]
69 -- Dr. Mario [NES, 1990]
70 -- The Sims [PC, 2000]
71 -- Age of Empires [PC, 1997]
72 -- Mortal Kombat II [coin-op, 1993]
73 -- Rock Band 2 [PS3/360, 2008]
74 -- Tomb Raider [PS, 1996]
75 -- Super Bomberman [SNES, 1993]
76 -- Mario's Picross [GB, 1995]
77 -- Ninja Gaiden [NES, 1989]
78 -- Command & Conquer [PC, 1995]
79 -- Kingdom Hearts [PS2, 2002]
80 -- Final Fantasy II [SNES, 1991]
81 -- Super Mario Bros. 2 [NES, 1988]
82 -- Left 4 Dead [PC, 2008]
83 -- Okami [PS2, 2006]
84 -- Shadow of the Colossus [PS2, 2005]
85 -- Metroid Prime [GameCube, 2002]
86 -- Super Smash Bros. Melee [GameCube, 2001]
87 -- Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness [PC, 1995]
88 -- Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn [PC, 2000]
89 -- God of War II [PS2, 2007]
90 -- The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess [Wii, 2006]
91 -- Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal [PS2, 2004]
92 -- Medal of Honor: Allied Assault [PC, 2002]
93 -- Skies of Arcadia [DC, 2000]
94 -- The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker [GameCube, 2003]
95 -- Silent Hill 2 [PS2, 2001]
96 -- Counter-Strike [PC, 1999]
97 -- Sonic the Hedgehog 2 [Genesis, 1992]
98 -- Grand Theft Auto: Vice City [PS3/360, 2009]
99 -- Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time [PS2/Xbox/GameCube/PC, 2003]
100 -- Portal [PC/360, 2007]
101 -- The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind [PC, 2002]
102 -- Heroes of Might & Magic III [PC, 1999]
103 -- Donkey Kong [coin-op, 1981]
104 -- Batman: Arkham Asylum [PS3/360, 2009]
105 -- System Shock 2 [PC, 1999]
106 -- Resident Evil [PS, 1996]
107 -- Gears of War [360, 2006]
108 -- Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots [PS3, 2008]
109 -- Crash Bandicoot: Warped [PS, 1998]
110 -- Halo 2 [Xbox, 2004]
111 -- Tetris Attack [SNES, 1996]
112 -- Final Fantasy XII [PS2, 2006]
113 -- Earthbound [SNES, 1995]
114 -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri [PC, 1998]
115 -- Command & Conquer: Red alert [PC, 1996]
116 -- Advance Wars [GBA, 2001]
117 -- Fallout [PC, 1997]
118 -- Team Fortress 2 [PS3/360/PC, 2007]
119 -- Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory [Xbox, 2005]
120 -- Mega Man X [SNES, 1994]
121 -- Lemmings [PC, 1991]
122 -- Panzer Dragoon Saga [Saturn, 1998]
123 -- NHL '94 [Genesis/SNES, 1993]
124 -- Warlords [coin-op, 1980]
125 -- Shadowrun [SNES, 1993]
126 -- Twisted Metal 2 [PS, 1996]
127 -- Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee [PS, 1997]
128 -- Metroid Fusion [GBA, 2002]
129 -- Homeworld [PC, 1999]
130 -- Kingdom Hearts II [PS2, 2006]
131 -- Pilotwings [SNES, 1991]
132 -- Quake II [PC, 1997]
133 -- Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II [PC, 1997]
134 -- Borderlands [PS3/360/PC, 2009]
135 -- Final Fight [coin-op, 1989]
136 -- Star Fox [SNES, 1993]
137 -- Madden NFL '99 [PS/N64/PC, 1999]
138 -- Call of Duty 2 [360/PC, 2005]
139 -- Wolfenstein 3D [PC, 1992]
140 -- Diablo [PC, 1996]
141 -- Civilization IV [PC, 2005]
142 -- Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle [PC, 1993]
143 -- Assassin's Creed [PS3/360, 2007]
144 -- Burnout 3: Takedown [PS2/Xbox, 2004]
145 -- Unreal Tournament 2004 [PC, 2004]
146 -- Power Stone 2 [DC, 2000]
147 -- Super Castlevania IV [SNES, 1991]
148 -- Super Mario RPG [SNES, 1996]
149 -- Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos [PC, 2002]
150 -- ActRaiser [SNES, 1991]
151 -- Fable [Xbox, 2004]
152 -- Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht [PS2, 2003]
153 -- Asteroids [coin-op, 1979]
154 -- LittleBigPlanet [PS3, 2008]
155 -- Crackdown [360, 2007]
156 -- Gauntlet [coin-op, 1985]
157 -- Devil May Cry [PS2, 2001]
158 -- Pong [coin-op, 1972]
159 -- Battlefield 1942 [PC, 2002]
160 -- Thief [PC, 1998]
161 -- Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved [360, 2005]
162 -- Far Cry [PC, 2004]
163 -- Robotron: 2084 [coin-op, 1982]
164 -- X-COM: UFO Defense [PC, 1993]
165 -- Peggle [PC, 2007]
166 -- King's Quest VI [PC, 1992]
167 -- Doom II [PC, 1994]
168 -- Tempest 2000 [Jaguar, 1994]
169 -- Braid [360, 2008]
170 -- Ridge Racer [PS, 1995]
171 -- Bully [PS2, 2006]
172 -- Ikaruga [GameCube, 2006]
173 -- Lode Runner [Apple II, 1983]
174 -- Gunstar Heroes [Genesis, 1993]
175 -- Dig Dug [coin-op, 1982]
176 -- Castlevania [NES, 1988]
177 -- Tekken 3 [coin-op, 1997]
178 -- Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney [DS, 2005]
179 -- NBA Jam: Tournament Edition [coin-op, 1993]
180 -- Max Payne [PC, 2001]
181 -- Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 [PS3/360/PC, 2009]
182 -- Samurai Shodown [Neo Geo, 1993]
183 -- NFL 2K5 [PS2/Xbox, 2004]
184 -- Vagrant Story [PS, 2000]
185 -- Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island [SNES, 1995]
186 -- Marble Madness [coin-op, 1984]
187 -- Infamous [PS3, 2009]
188 -- Planescape: Torment [PC, 1999]
189 -- Kid Icarus [NES, 1986]
190 -- The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay [Xbox, 2004]
191 -- Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater [PS2, 2004]
192 -- Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem [GameCube, 2002]
193 -- Jak 3 [PS2, 2004]
194 -- Marvel vs. Capcom 2 [DC, 2002]
195 -- Ultima [PC, 1981]
196 -- Call of Duty [PC, 2003]
197 -- NHL 09 [PS3/360, 2008]
198 -- Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow [Xbox, 2004]
199 -- Tactics Ogre [PS, 1997]
200 -- Beyond Good and Evil [PS2/Xbox/GameCube, 2003]^The whole list. Continue discussing what should and shouldn't be there.
Drakes_Fortune
There's so much wrong with this list it's not even funny. Kingdom Hearts 2 is better than Quake 2?
inFamous is better than MGS3 and Eternal Darkness?
Batman: AA is better than Unreal Tournament and DOOM II?
Rock Band 2 is better than RE?
Guitar Hero is better than MGS2, SoulCalibur, KoTOR, etc?
God of War and WoW are better than StarCraft? Who made this list?
yes KH2 is better than Quake 2 in my opinion. And in your opinion quake 2 is better than KH2. And for someone else they are both crap. See, its all subjective, its impossible to make a list like that. But of course thers many games that can be consdered better than others and deserve higher spots than others.
Game opinions are subjective, but if you're going to make a list like that, you have to be as objective as possible. And objectively, I don't see how you can justify this list.
The only thing I find extremely "polarizing" is Call of Duty 4 ranking so high. Other than that, it looked solid enough.
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