X1X 4k BD Drive is a disaster [patch to dedisasterfy? Moar inside!]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2017/11/12/the-xbox-one-x-4k-blu-ray-player-is-a-disaster/

I still thonk the Pro needed one - but it sounds like this isn't that hot an option. Still, what was Sony thinking

Probably can be corrected with a patch.

Nothing a patch can’t fix relax

It's probably not as good as a dedicated 4k blu-ray player that costs 300 bucks, but it can't be that bad as an all in one player.

This does sound like something that can be patched.

@granddogg: it's the title from the piece, not mine.

I actually do own quite a few 4K UHD movies and standard blu-rays as well. I've only tested out a 5 minute scene in the beginning in the Revenant and it looked pretty good to me with my settings on the LG OLED 55E7 model I have. I'll watch some films in the next few days and check them out.

30fps gaming, fake/dynamic 4K, fucked up movie playback...

That $500 value though... LOL

@BassMan: Yes it is good value... your point?

Forbes contributors are basically bloggers. Guy doesnt know how to work the settings on his tv had it set to default.

His point is, get a PC if you Xbox fanboys really care about power of a 4K gaming.

That is a shame but if you're not a video snob it shouldn't be a huge problem.

@Telekill: yeah I barely own blurays, let alone 4k. But some people love that stuff

I own a ton of 4K bluray movies. As a 3D early adopter,I grow more and more concerned over 4K every day

@xantufrog: I'm just now getting into 4k movies but have a ton of DVDs and Blurays. I'm going to be trading in quite a few Blurays to make room for the 4Ks if there is a decent enough difference.

@davillain-: Why? I can get it with X and pay substantially less. And without the hassle of a PC :)

i prefer 3D to 4K

unfortunately 3D is on life support.

Console manufacturers have latched on to 4k far too early, they should have went for 60+ fps first.

I can understand why they did it though, 4k is much more appealing and exciting to casual gamers than 60 frames per second. Especially when Joe Blogs doesn't understand the advantages that higher frame rates bring when they are so used to 30 fps (and often less). To this day there are many people who believe "the human eye can't see more than 30 frames per second" crap. In reality the only ones who benefit from pushing 4k gaming are console and TV manufacturers.

I have a PC :) but I prefer MMOs and survival games on it.

most of my friends are on PS4/XB1 anyways

Meh. I’ll probably be fine with it myself. All I know is that I think the Xbox One X is a good value for my money.

I agree, the 4k player is better than any random chinese brand.

This article is overdone, the XB1X player is not that bad.

Samsung and Sony offer high end 4k blu ray players close to the XB1X price tag... but the MS product includes a gaming system.

It's a good value.

Digital HD doesn't have comparable bit-rate as 4K Blu-ray content.

@FLOPPAGE_50: Oh Yeah I’m sure that it is better, calling it a “disaster” just screams of hyperbole to me so I’m not surprised.

but it says it's better than the S's player so it's okay

Fucking drama queens.

I have tons of 4K Bluray's, haven't tried one on the X yet. I also a Samsung 4K Bluray player, was seven hundred something CDN when I bought it, I doubt the X will compare and that's also why I was never salty that my Pro didn't play them either.

@xantufrog: I got ripped for posting a Forbes article about a defective Xbox One X lol

UHD BluRay in general is a massive disappointment

The format just came out barely a year ago, of course it has a "horrible selection of movies". Although that's all relative, it does actually have hundreds of titles already - including most major new releases.

The gamechanger will be when we get catalog stuff like the Disney Marvel movies, Star Wars, Hobbit (48fps release possible?). My understanding is Disney has basically been on hold until Dolby Vision gets sorted out. They've release a couple of "new release" UHD titles (Gaurdians of Galaxy 2 already, and Thor:Ragnarok will be UHD), but I'm pretty confident all the Marvel releases will be repackaged as 4K/UHD with HDR/Dolby Vision.

Dark Knight Trilogy is getting that treatment, and i can't wait to get that one (should be a major upgrade over the blu-rays for the IMAX scenes in the last 2 movies and Batman Begins which was actually not brought over to blu-ray/HD very well at all. New 4K transfers should do these movies alot of good, and I can think of hundreds of films in the same circumstance... just because their old "HD" version actually was never very good.

It's not even on life support, it's dead (at least in the sense you can't actually buy a 3D-TV right now).

This actually pisses me off because I have a bunch of 3D blu-rays (probably like 100), and have only seen about half of them in 3D. I never actually had a 3D TV, but I had a buddy that did so I occasionally watched them at their place (they obviously enjoyed me supplying the free blu-rays to watch). I never minded paying the extra $5, and sometimes I'd get deals where the 3D version was the same price anyway. Unfortunately their 3D TV died. Unless they bring back 3D TV models, I might never get to see the other half of the 3D movies. All the manufacturers should have at least kept it as a feature in one of their mid-range or high end models. I might lament that I didn't get one of those OLED's that had 3D, but I just didn't need a new TV yet and they were rediculously expensive. I figured I'd wait a few years for them to hit $1000,but I never imagined they'd just "drop" 3D. My understanding is they eliminated it in the last couple years because they were all going for "maximum brightness" levels, and the 3D layer was an impediment to that. It was just about having the marketing bragging rights, not any practical reason or even cost savings reason.

@lifelessablaze: no it doesn't. "However, the issues don't seem to me as consistently damaging to picture quality on the S as they are on the X"

Damn that sucks. I was wanting an Xbox One X (or S) primarily for Ultra Blu-Ray support. I started adding 4K Blu-Rays to my collection recently but don't have a player.

Might have to get a a $150 dedicated player instead

Honestly, i had the same issue with the Xbox One S when i first got it.

I connected it to the KS8000 and everything looked off compared to the standalone player i have downstairs (same TV)

After tinkering a bit and a short call to MS, Xbox One S (and i assume the X) have a built in calibration feature that is used to get the best picture for your TV. They said that every TV is different and handles HDR differently which is why they included the feature.

The standard setting doesnt work for every TV

I noticed that the article didnt mention the calibration at all, which i suspect is the response he will get from MS.

Its not enough to just adjust the black levels to get the best HDR picture.

GT Sport has the same calibration feature in-game to tailor to your TV

Until there is a standard in HDR, calibration is an absolute necessity.

Try this. It's from the link MS sent me:

Calibrating Your Television

Once your Xbox One S is setup and ready to go, you may want to fine-tune your TV to get the best possible picture. The Xbox One S includes a very simple HDTV calibration walk-through, which can help optimize your brightness, contrast, and color to get the best possible picture for your Games and Movies. To access this feature, go to Settings > Display & sound > Video output > Calibrate HDTV. Here you can walk through a few simple steps to improve your visual experience

Every HDR capable player should include a calibration feature until there is a standard.

I have different settings for my PC, Xbox One D, and PS4 because they all handle it differently. Luckily the KS8000 allows you to save settings per-input so I don't have to do it every time

Since I don't know any better, I've been reasonably pleased with the Xbone S as a 4k movie player. Even after reading this I'm not going to buy a stand-alone player for the few 4k movies I have.

Seems Forbes has problems with their X1X. Why isn't anyone providing sources from a real gaming review site?

Forbes? Lol

Maybe it's the video output. But it's funny the Bonex can't hadle movies, how will it handle games.

@xantufrog: https://www.whathifi.com/microsoft/xbox-one-x/review

"We weren’t particularly impressed with the Xbox One S’s handling of 4K Blu-rays, so we’re pleased to say things have moved along with the Xbox One X.

The biggest gains have been in the picture department. Play the opening battle between King Arthur’s army and the Saxons and the One X looks more vivid and detailed than its sibling. The X looks clearer and the lines drawn appear sharper.

The picture pops more too. As fireballs rain down from the sky, scattering soldiers like ten-pins, the yellow flames burn so fiercely you can almost feel the temperature rise.

When the alien ship breaches the ocean towards the latter stages of the film and Bumblebee and Nemesis Prime start knocking spots off each other, the sunlight pierces the sky with impressive intensity and bounces off the surface of the water."

Forbes article vs Whathifi Article :^]

And now thanks to your shitty topic your believers are spreading this 'news' on Gamespot articles. Bait thread :/

Because mods are doing their best to keep the anything MS Xbox SmearCampaign alive. Mighty X1X has the SW Barnyard shook to the core.

Good stuff. :P

@davillain-:

So can you point out where I can build a 4k PC for 500 bucks, please?

Thanks in advance.

Haven't tried the Blue Ray player yet but I watched Alien Covenant 4K on the X1S the other day and it looked spectacular, so I'm not sure what issue he is referring to and maybe I am just not noticing it. Hopefully if there is something wrong with the X drive they patch it, seeing as how I Was satisfied with the X1S BR player, this isn't really worrying me

@jahnee: chill the **** out dude, all I did was share a link to one dude's take on this - that's, like, every other thread in this hell hole. If you're worried this thread is going to hurt x1x sales or something, don't be

@SecretPolice: just having some fun - it popped up in my google news feed below the weather, and the first thing I thought of was the other Forbes article on here

Microsoft thanks you for participating in their beta test.

You;d think one of the biggest software developers in the world would be able to ship something that works properly.

XBL engineer Mike Ybarra tweeted something about this it seems:

Xbox One X users - Blu-Ray specific fixes coming very soon to correct raised black levels w/HDR movies, etc. Few days away. #Xbox

Looks like MS already knows about this and has a Fix coming in a couple of days.

Mike Ybarra twitter