XB1 gpu able to do parallel gpu compute and rendering....

which one is more important? 113 > 98 or 1600 > 830? You really think overclocking a cpu 0.15 ghz will make up 50% difference on gpu? of course you do, you are delusional.

Let the bullshit begin, go!

@Krelian-co said:

@FastRobby said:

@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy said:

Answer the question first.

No you prove what are the strengths any of the 2 have over the PS4...

As i already say name 1,my question pretty much answer yours,name 1 thing the xbox one or Wii u have stronger than the PS4.

Kinect > PS Camera, Xbox One CPU > PS4 CPU because Microsoft overclocked it, which Sony can't because they can't handle the heat, so the CPU performance of the Xbox One is better than the one from Sony. This is of course thinking EXACTLY as you do, theoretical power, so Xbox One CPU > PS4 CPU. Xbox One also supports 802.11a WiFi band and 5Ghz channel support, which PS4 doesn't.

Those are all HW things that Xbox One does better than PS4, top of my head. I'm not mentioning HDMI-In port and Project Morpheus because one has nothing to do with gaming, and the other hasn't been released yet.

which one is more important? 113 > 98 or 1600 > 830?

Let the bullshit begin, go!

The point is he said PS4 wins in all areas. Which as by your image is simply wrong.

I don't think the xbox one or Wii u has any advantages over the PS4.

Now before you come in and try to stir it into games i will block it,we are talking about HARDWARE so yeah the xbox one doesn't have any advantages over the PS4.

But but but the xbox one CPU...lol

Pretty useless when compute on PS4 almost double the xbox one..

@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy said:

@tormentos:

Answering a question with a question isn't answering the question.

Its a yes or no question, which you are avoiding answering.

So I ask again Yes or No

So let me get this right according to you no other console has any strengths vs the PS4, they are weaker in every area.

I don't think the xbox one or Wii u has any advantages over the PS4.

Now before you come in and try to stir it into games i will block it,we are talking about HARDWARE so yeah the xbox one doesn't have any advantages over the PS4.

But but but the xbox one CPU...lol

Pretty useless when compute on PS4 almost double the xbox one..

But u said it was better in all areas.

@tdkmillsy said:

@Krelian-co said:

@FastRobby said:

@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy said:

Answer the question first.

No you prove what are the strengths any of the 2 have over the PS4...

As i already say name 1,my question pretty much answer yours,name 1 thing the xbox one or Wii u have stronger than the PS4.

Kinect > PS Camera, Xbox One CPU > PS4 CPU because Microsoft overclocked it, which Sony can't because they can't handle the heat, so the CPU performance of the Xbox One is better than the one from Sony. This is of course thinking EXACTLY as you do, theoretical power, so Xbox One CPU > PS4 CPU. Xbox One also supports 802.11a WiFi band and 5Ghz channel support, which PS4 doesn't.

Those are all HW things that Xbox One does better than PS4, top of my head. I'm not mentioning HDMI-In port and Project Morpheus because one has nothing to do with gaming, and the other hasn't been released yet.

which one is more important? 113 > 98 or 1600 > 830?

Let the bullshit begin, go!

The point is he said PS4 wins in all areas. Which as by your image is simply wrong.

it has more performance no? which one do you think will impact more games?

@Krelian-co said:

@tdkmillsy said:

@Krelian-co said:

@FastRobby said:

@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy said:

Answer the question first.

No you prove what are the strengths any of the 2 have over the PS4...

As i already say name 1,my question pretty much answer yours,name 1 thing the xbox one or Wii u have stronger than the PS4.

Kinect > PS Camera, Xbox One CPU > PS4 CPU because Microsoft overclocked it, which Sony can't because they can't handle the heat, so the CPU performance of the Xbox One is better than the one from Sony. This is of course thinking EXACTLY as you do, theoretical power, so Xbox One CPU > PS4 CPU. Xbox One also supports 802.11a WiFi band and 5Ghz channel support, which PS4 doesn't.

Those are all HW things that Xbox One does better than PS4, top of my head. I'm not mentioning HDMI-In port and Project Morpheus because one has nothing to do with gaming, and the other hasn't been released yet.

which one is more important? 113 > 98 or 1600 > 830?

Let the bullshit begin, go!

The point is he said PS4 wins in all areas. Which as by your image is simply wrong.

it has more performance no? which one do you think will impact more games?

I'm not disputing that, PS4 may have a graphical advantage in some games due to extra GPU power. Its one of many factors.

But all consoles have pro's and con's.

WTF...hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Kinect is dead man and even if it was alive is not part of the hardware it self man,it is a useless gimmick,which now a huge part of the xbox one user base don't care for or want..

Irrelevant when compute on PS4 destroy the xbox one,once again just because the xbox one can't take advantage of compute as the PS4 can it doesn't mean is worthless.

You should pay attention to this more because no matter what heavy compute is coming your way,and it already started on PS4 and even the xbox one yeah that Kinect reservation of the GPU was use as GpGPU compute idiot...

Again how has the faster CPU help.? Most games are slower on xbox one and lower in resolution to,the only real game with an advantage is ACU which was intentionally held back by the developer on PS4 to avoid arguments..lol

The PS4 cant handle the heat such idiot..

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-xbox-one-hardware-test

The xbox one runs at 49 degrees celcius while gaming.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hardware-test-playstation-4

The PS4 runs at 44 degrees celcius while gaming...

This is old news the xbox one runs hotter than the PS4 from where the fu** you people keep pulling that shit is beyond logic,digital foundry tested both consoles dude.

Oh to add insult to injury,the PS4 has a built in power supply which also produces heat inside the unit and still runs colder,the xbox one has a power brink and runs hotter that over size APU.

Yet it doesn't reflect because 40% more GPU power is more important than 9% CPU time,even more when 8GB of 176GB/s GDDR5 >> 8GB of DDR3 with a small pool of fast ram..

Oh the xbox one support 802.11a wifi damn so how does that help the xbox one freaking graphics you moron...

The fact that you even mention even metion kinect on something which is about graphics say it all...

I wasn't talking about useless garbage like wifi or Kinect it was about POWER and graphics and is pretty obvious.

What he did was stir the argument toward kinect and irrelevant crap like wifi,if you do the same you will look just as stupid as the argument was about graphic power not Kinect..lol

You are an idiot the argument was POWER and you bring Kinect and wifi what the fu** man really.?

Basically you are spinning to avoid answering like you always do when corner..ahahahaaa

@tormentos:

So let me get this right according to you no other console has any strengths vs the PS4, they are weaker in every area.

Your claim was ANY strengths. If you are going actually make that argument and then try to back it up fair enough just shows you are a blind fanboy. But it is you who is trying to change the goal posts by claiming something is irrelevant when you claimed ANY stenghts, just shows your a snake who is pointless debating with.

Currently 83% of the people that replied to my poll think you are a sad fanboy making false statements. Guess that's irrelevant as well.

Lol, told you so :)

Which is totally irrelevant because sony can rise the CPu clock,and sony can reduce CPU reservation in fact the XBO reservation was for Kinect which the PS4 doesn't even have,so sony has been playing it safe,but will all the reservation gone on xbox one i am sure sony will reply,but is not like they are in need off.

For all intended purposes the CPU are the same nothing an upclock can't fix,now on the GPU side this is not the same deal because unlike the CPU which is the same with 8 core just slower clock,the GPU on PS4 has 18 CU the xbox one has only 12,and there is no freaking way in hell that you can make that gap,there is no way...

And then bringing Kinect and wifi when he knows the argument is about power is an even bigger joke and show how sad the xbox one really is..lol

Yeah it is so much better how that CPu helped PES been 1080p on xbox one.? Aha... You don't say...hahaha

Is 720p.

How it help DA and SOM been 1080p.?

This is the problem the only game you have was gimped on purpose on PS4,the rest are superior on PS4.

Is the same CPU and if sony tomorrow say we upclock the CPU to the same speed of the xbox one,there goes the advantage,but once again is not really need it,when compute wise the PS4 GPU smoke the xbox one.

The argument was about graphics not Kinect of any shit like that,i may as well do this..

The best advantage any platform can have even more important than hardware..lol

71 more games 6 more retail in case you want to go there and 65 more digital is not even close.

Kinect and wifi were irrelevant.

The fact the you bring kinect into an argument about power pretty much prove your are a delusional fanboy,your comment was clear and was about power and my reply was about power not gimmick features which not even xbox one fans care for..lol

So yeah theoretical my ass the advantage is real an 99% of the games out there show it..hahaha

@tormentos: Dem arcade games. LOL!!!

@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy said:

The point is he said PS4 wins in all areas. Which as by your image is simply wrong.

Which is totally irrelevant because sony can rise the CPu clock,and sony can reduce CPU reservation in fact the XBO reservation was for Kinect which the PS4 doesn't even have,so sony has been playing it safe,but will all the reservation gone on xbox one i am sure sony will reply,but is not like they are in need off.

For all intended purposes the CPU are the same nothing an upclock can't fix,now on the GPU side this is not the same deal because unlike the CPU which is the same with 8 core just slower clock,the GPU on PS4 has 18 CU the xbox one has only 12,and there is no freaking way in hell that you can make that gap,there is no way...

And then bringing Kinect and wifi when he knows the argument is about power is an even bigger joke and show how sad the xbox one really is..lol

@tdkmillsy said:

But u said it was better in all areas.

Yeah it is so much better how that CPu helped PES been 1080p on xbox one.? Aha... You don't say...hahaha

Is 720p.

How it help DA and SOM been 1080p.?

This is the problem the only game you have was gimped on purpose on PS4,the rest are superior on PS4.

Is the same CPU and if sony tomorrow say we upclock the CPU to the same speed of the xbox one,there goes the advantage,but once again is not really need it,when compute wise the PS4 GPU smoke the xbox one.

@tdkmillsy said:

@tormentos:

So let me get this right according to you no other console has any strengths vs the PS4, they are weaker in every area.

Your claim was ANY strengths. If you are going actually make that argument and then try to back it up fair enough just shows you are a blind fanboy. But it is you who is trying to change the goal posts by claiming something is irrelevant when you claimed ANY stenghts, just shows your a snake who is pointless debating with.

Currently 83% of the people that replied to my poll think you are a sad fanboy making false statements. Guess that's irrelevant as well.

The argument was about graphics not Kinect of any shit like that,i may as well do this..

The best advantage any platform can have even more important than hardware..lol

71 more games 6 more retail in case you want to go there and 65 more digital is not even close.

Kinect and wifi were irrelevant.

My ps4 sounds like a jet taking off after a bit of use (it is well vented) so I hope they don't overclock it. xbone is whisper quiet.

Doesn't take a genius to realize that the cooling solution matters a lot. I'd imagine with the power brick being internal wont help if clock was increased.

And no one knows the effects be it and or heat increase and voltage stress until they try it, could cook it for all we know.

Minor increase in pc clock can be the difference sometimes between a stable system and a crashy one.

Wasn't about power, but keep trying to spin it. You're such a sad person.

@tormentos:

You really still trying to worm out of it. Next you be telling me Any means just graphics. Why would you respond with games if it was just about graphics. You claimed PS4 was better in any and all areas and you where wrong.

Loser

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-evolution-of-xbox-one-as-told-by-sdk-leak

Some of those arcade have better score than all xbox one exclusives,including the master flop collection..hahahaa

In the end the advantage is for the PS4 because it is stronger and there is nothing the xbox one can't do about that,no 2 memory pools,secret compressors and decompressors or any crap it is gimped vs the PS4 and its architectures is not very friendly with heavy deferred games with tons of stuff at once,like MGS5 and PES 2014 confirmed.

This was my argument which tdktroll reply to so yeah my argument was about power you super sonic moron.

And this was what i quoted from you ass and was about POWER,not kinect or wifi or any shit like that..

Next time learn to fu**ing fallow an argument..

Dude i don't call it tiled resources the game use PRT,man PRT or Tile Resources is not some miracle thing that will make games look hugely better,is a way to have more diverse textures while saving memory by not having to load entire textures,which is irrelevant on PS4 and xbox one because both have memory to spare.

Rather, the developer relies on the game's ultra-detailed rendering systems to handle this effect properly and correctly with unprecedented levels of interaction between cars, environments and effects. It's even crazier in the snow where blizzard-like conditions occur with so many particles on screen that it can become difficult to drive, with Norway at night proving truly frightening.

DF...lol

Yeah because it will rain anywhere but other you car right,and some how you will not see the water on your wind shield because you are going 160...lol

Whatever makes you sleep at night. More people are saying it wasn't about power, you are the only one saying this. How can we name 1 thing if it's ONLY about power. Keep trying Tormentos, such a childish liar.

@tormentos: "

Dude i don't call it tiled resources the game use PRT,man PRT or Tile Resources is not some miracle thing that will make games look hugely better,is a way to have more diverse textures while saving memory by not having to load entire textures,which is irrelevant on PS4 and xbox one because both have memory to spare."

Are you serious with this statement or just trolling ? You think having the ability to store larger textures will not make the game look better? You think the Xbox 1 and ps4 have enough memory to store all the full size resolution textures in just their main memory during runtime? Are you serious ?

Again, my sample size is larger with large content games.

You missed my points

1. You can force everybody to commit towards a SSD. PC has business related activity besides games and socials. I have shown you main memory -> VRAM tiled resource example.

2. AMD PRT or tiled resource doesn't change GPU's TMU and ALU potential.

@tormentos: Blah, blah, blah, some of those games scored blah, blah, blah. Who gives a shit? They're arcade games. Most of the ones in that list are so shitty, no one has even reviewed them.

Total weaksauce. Total self-ownage. LOL!!!!

All were your sample size buffoon you are the one who posted all of them,you just wanted to use BF4 and NFS as example when other games did show improvements..

1-No you haven't show a single link from AMD claiming PRT work better on 2 memory pools.

2.Exactly now go tell that to lemming here because they some how think it does..lol

It will make the textures look sharper until a point,because not matter what those textures get affected by your resolution,AA process and so on.

So if you have great textures but your game is 900p with crappy AA yeah you are not doing much.

Dude PRT isn't even use on PC it is hardly it is something that only recently it has been started to be exploited after the huge problem cause by rage virtual texturing on PC,were huge parts of the textures would not load,pop in or would look completely wash out,and PC games still look better with better textures and most GPU have less memory than the PS4 or xbox one.

The PS4 and xbox one have more than enough ram for the GPU they have,specially the xbox one,have you see a 7770 like GPU with 5GB of memory.? That is something you see on top of the line GPU like the titans and shit like that.

A 7950 with 3GB of ram would still beat the crap out of any of the 2 consoles regardless of memory usage,it changes nothing.

My 2GB R270 is faster than any 4GB 7850 and would give me better graphics any time,even if the PS4 came with 4GB of GDDR5 it for the whole system it would still beat the xbox one.

The PS4 has more retail games to moron.. Didn't you read.?

butbut but only indies..hahahaa

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/towerfall-ascension

87%

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/velocity-2x

86%

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-binding-of-isaac-rebirth

88% Fu** man higher than Halo MCC, Forza 5, FH2, and Titanfall.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/super-mega-baseball

84%

Shit this is ^^ 84% and came in December 16,and guess what other game came in december.?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/guilty-gear-xrd--sign-

84% as well and on December 16 as well,did the xbox one got something that month.?

From November to December alone the PS4 got 3 games over 80% one actually as high as 88%..hahahaa

But but but they are indies right.? Not GG at least.

I prefer to have some weak sauce games than have nothing at all...

Hey friend mind telling me what you will be getting for your dust collector one for the next 8 months?

This should be good..lol

@FastRobby said:

What? So it doesn't matter what it does in actual practical examples, but look at the theoretical powaaaaa, much more important...

LIAR LIAR LIAR....hahahahahaaa

@tormentos: HA HA HA HA!!!! Yeah, I'd soooo much rather play "The Binding of Issac Rebirth" than Halo: MCC. Or Velocity 2x instead of TitanFall.

HA HA HA HA!!!! Stop it, man - you are killing me. This is by far the best self-ownage I have read in a long time.

Wow, new fucking low. You just take two things completely out of context, paste them together, and call me a liar.

It all started when someone asked you this, and you responded as follows:

He even made the ANY bold. So yeah it wasn't about power. And my reaction, where I say: "Theoretical powaaaa", was BEFORE that discussion. It was a different discussion. I'm done with you, you can respond to me, but I'm ignoring your ass. Calling me a liar, you are so dispicable

You down playing those games for their stile is a joke,Mindcraft look like pixelated shit it is an indie and it is more played that Any Halo game on existence,so played that MS decide to pay 2 freaking billions for a damn Indie game,so don't tell me that you prefer halo or titanfall because you are a biased ass lemming so off course you would.

Fact is i just proved you wrong

http://majornelson.com/2013/12/05/live-activity-for-week-of-november-25/

The last known xbox live activity chart...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Minecraft on spot 4 Halo 4 on spot 13..hahaha but but but Halo is better than indies..

But but but indies suck..lol

But the incredible thing is that while you downplay indies,PSN card don't stop selling last year they were amazon hottest selling item in games.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames

Hahahaa i guess PS4 gamers are buying those indies after all..lol

http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames

Amazon now hahahaaa shit that first 5 almost didn't change...hahaha

Who the fcuk mentioned Minecraft? I was talking about such stellar titles as "The Binding of Issac" and "Super Mega Baseball". Oh, and lets not forget such awesome new IPs like "Aqua Kitty", and remakes of 80s arcade games like Rygar.

This is the most fun I have had responding to a post in a long time. Epic self ownage. Please, please, please, @tormentos, please keep this up!!!

@tdkmillsy said:

@tormentos:

Answering a question with a question isn't answering the question.

Its a yes or no question, which you are avoiding answering.

So I ask again Yes or No

So let me get this right according to you no other console hasany strengths vs the PS4, they are weaker in every area.

I don't think the xbox one or Wii u has any advantages over the PS4.

Now before you come in and try to stir it into games i will block it,we are talking about HARDWARE so yeah the xbox one doesn't have any advantages over the PS4.

Troll...

Hahahahaaa... My argument was abut power... NO kinect Nintendo or wifi idiot..hahahaa

I bring it hypocrite an indie is an indie and since you want to downplay a game for how it looks well you deserve to be confronted with reality,it doesn't matter how it looks how it feels as long as it is FUN...

Let me confront you again with History and reality...

Not only Journey Beat the likes of ME3,and Halo 4 it was a damn 2 hour PSN game,did you see mark of the Ninja.? Did you see spelunky also been nominated.?

Yeah that is the problem with you,trying to downplay something because you don't have them..

I rather play TBOI which scored 88 than the master flop collection which was broken unplayable online and already is also on xbox 360..

Pretending than i am owning my self,doesn't quite change the fact that the one been owned is you...Hahaha..

Once again what does the xbox one has until september to play...hahahahaa

Don't runs scare...hahahahaaaa

@tormentos: HA HA HA HA!!!

Dude, where does Aqua Kitty fall into that? Or Rygar. I mean, people have to be lined up around the block to play a remake of a b-list game like Rygar.

Nothing to play? Evolve comes out next month. Oh, you mean "exclusives". So, Aqua Kitty is a system seller now?

Really, this is school playground stuff.

Grow up.

Evolve.? ins't that on PS4.? Hahahahaa Again what do you have to play on xbox one for the next 8 months....hahhaa

Still waiting for a reply...hahahahaa

Not only the one who need to grow up is you,but you also need to learn to fallow an argument,Nintendo wasn't even on my conversation,neither was Kinect of any crap like that it was about POWER...hahaha

But you know you have it loss so you spin it..hahahaha

So... all that matters is exclusives? Like Aqua Kitty?

What are you cows playing now, then? The best game on your console is a port (TLOU).

Lol Tormentoes acting like Sony planned for a early 2015 release for exclusives. They were delayed to this year. No one sells games this early after Christmas because the market sucks. They missed the holiday window and fucked up.

Your better get back to your shock therapy.

@tormentos:

It will make the textures look sharper until a point,because not matter what those textures get affected by your resolution,AA process and so on.

So if you have great textures but your game is 900p with crappy AA yeah you are not doing much.

this is false, the textures are the most important aspect of a 3d image outside of lighting, texel density is what determines how good a model looks, considering most details in models now come from normal maps. Without extremely large texture maps progressive meshing would not be very success full. Most texture dimensions exceed the resolution for this reason. Texel density also has to be managed, which is where mip mapping comes in to reduce telex density over distance. You don't have one map per object as well, each object can at least 4 maps.

Dude PRT isn't even use on PC it is hardly it is something that only recently it has been started to be exploited after the huge problem cause by rage virtual texturing on PC,were huge parts of the textures would not load,pop in or would look completely wash out,and PC games still look better with better textures and most GPU have less memory than the PS4 or xbox one.

The PS4 and xbox one have more than enough ram for the GPU they have,specially the xbox one,have you see a 7770 like GPU with 5GB of memory.? That is something you see on top of the line GPU like the titans and shit like that.

A 7950 with 3GB of ram would still beat the crap out of any of the 2 consoles regardless of memory usage,it changes nothing.

My 2GB R270 is faster than any 4GB 7850 and would give me better graphics any time,even if the PS4 came with 4GB of GDDR5 it for the whole system it would still beat the xbox one.

Your saying a whole lot of nothing right here because thats not what I asked you, I asked you if you think you can keep all the textures needed for a scene resident in ram at their full resolution, and the correct answer is no. You would not keep all the textures for a scene plus 2(or 3 ) frame buffers in the memory at the same time. You would not have space for animation and other necessary items. render pipelines cannot simply load everything into memory from the get go anymore its just not feasible.

Actually depends on the game world being rendered. Both the PS4 and X1 have to share the memory among the OS+features which leaves around 5gb of usable memory for both the game cache and vram. So both consoles will generally have 3gb or less of memory for vram for most games. Larger the game world/level more memory is needed be be reserved.

How far or close you look at the texture in nothing change the fact that the game is a tile resourced game.

Most texture pop out are do to the HDD,in Trials fusion it also happen on PC and the fix was quite simple use an SSD,lucky for us we can change our HDD for SSD on the xbox one you can't and you void your warranty if you open your machine.

No it isn't and PRT and tile resources is a way to load a bigger number of different textures without actually loading all texture on the memory and just partially loading.

If you have bad AA or lower resolution your textures will look bad,because regardless of having very high resolution textures you are displaying them is a much lower one.

The xbox 360 had more memory for textures than the PS3,but regardless many PS3 game had sharper textures than the xbox 360,and that is do to the fact that textures on xbox 360 games were highly compressed,which tended to affect quality on PS3 those textures remained uncompressed in the blu-ray disc the final outcome was very clear even with the xbox 360 having more memory.

You can run skyrim with high definition textures pack but if you run it at 720p what the hell will it serve you.?

The answer is it depend on the size of the textures how the fu** you think Skyrim uses ultra high quality textures.?

Skyrim is not a tile resourced game,neither was crysis with mods,you can load those high resolution textures on PC it has been done to hell and beyond without the use of PRT,is impossible that you don't know this..

That is how it is done,several Nvidia cards don't even have PRT support and they work just fine loading high resolution textures.

In other words you have shit to play and you refuse to name anything because you have nothing coming.

The best game on your console is a port is a broken port of Halo games..lol

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/halo-the-master-chief-collection

What XBO exclusive has higher than 86 on Meta.?

At least TLOU wasn't broken and was able to hold its high score,MCC didn't.

Actually i am playing Guilty Gears which has 84%.

What are you playing.?

Hahaha Oh better yet what will you play...

Next month The Order,on March MLB and Bloodborn and you have.? hahahaa

Many sony games have come early in the year killzone 3 did,God of war 3,so did Gear of war judgement as well..

I am not acting like anything i am asking what the fu** the xbox one has until august because it has nothing,oh and Titanfall and infamous also came early last year,MS had a better start last year and still that was pathetic this one is just horrible...

I did not say that, Tormentos said that.

Your getting to caught up in just what a specific company decides to name tiling, those cards may not have built in PRT as they advertised but the same function can be accomplished in Direct 3d and Open GL with S3TC compression. You are still tiling the texture and mipmaps as needed and not preloading all of them at once. Texture resolution determines how many Texel's there are per pixel, as the object moves away you need to calculate how each local telex will shade or map to that pixel. The end resolution just determines the level of clarity. Bad AA will only effect the edges of the model, it does not effect the interior. Texture resolution is far more important than screen resolution. You can always optimize screen resolution for the best balance, but if you have low texture resolution then there is no hiding that regardless of your final screen resolution. Textures are generally stored as a power of 2 in size, this is what creates your tiles a math function that determines the objects distance from the virtual camera. Don't get caught up in the hype tiling resources have been around for a long time wether its just through software or hardware is the difference. It seems now they are preprogramming shaders to allow for it just making it easier that is all. S3TC compression has been around since the 80's if i remember correctly.

Yeah that is call virtual texturing which is what Rage uses,but Skyrim is not a virtual texture game neither is Crysis.

S3TC compression doesn't work like PRT does.

It is always good to have more memory,but the fact is for the class GPu both the xbox one and PS4 have 5GB of vram, is more than enough,look what the 360 and PS3 achieved with much less,and stronger GPU than both still deliver sharper textures even when they have less memory,for example my R270 which allow me to have sharper textures than my PS4 yet it only has 2GB of vram.

@tormentos: You are diverting - don't change the subject. I am talking about your incessant use of a "list war" site that lists stellar titles such as Aqua Kitty on it to proclaim a PS4 advantage.

@tormentos

1-No you haven't show a single link from AMD claiming PRT work better on 2 memory pools.

1. I have shown you Microsoft's 9 GB texture data being stream from system memory to VRAM and DDR3 memory is faster than SSD.

2. The programming expectation for PS4 doesn't include SSD.

3. The programming expectation for PC is non-fix hardware e.g. minimum specs and recommended specs.

4. Better multiplatform PRT game would be Doom 4 e.g. a player can get close to the walls.

Find me a link where AMD state that PRT work better with 2 memory pool,and prove to me how having to move date from one pool to another is faster than moving data from just 1.

And textures are stored on the disc and have to load from the disc into the main memory where the hell do you think they will load from,DDR3 doesn't come pre loaded with Tile resources from games,no the textures get install on the HDD and stream to memory no matter what you are limit by what your HDD can stream to memory,my professor in PC use to call that a Bottleneck.

You don't have to program for SSD to be able to take advantage of it buffoon,and your own chart showed that.

Trials is superior on PS4 and Tile Resources didn't change that so yeah it is useless to brad about 2 memory pools and crap like that when the end result is simple the PS4 will have the superior version because it is stronger period.

What the xbox one has for the next 8 months..hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ill wait because i prefer to play Aqua kitty to play shit which is what you have for the next 8 month on the dust collector one.

No they hype games like TBOI which scored higher the Halo,Forza,Titanfall and sunset over drive..hahahaa

Or towerlfall which again score higher than Halo,Forza,Titanfall or sunset over drive..

I prefer games to nothing we have games out and coming you have nothing..hhahaa

but but but evolve...lol

No i didn't call it that way the game use tile resources,since you don't understand what that mean well your are basically loss on this argument.

No superior is that the PS4 version is 1080p and has sharper textures and not shimmering vs the xbox one,the xbox one version is 900p...

@tormentos

It's simple, DDR3 is faster than the fastest SSD i.e. higher streaming bandwidth.

Yes it is but you are streaming textures to partially load them in DDR3,then move them to ESRAM how is that faster than moving textures directly to GDDR5.?

Is the notion that using 2 things to do the same thing is better than using one..

AMD PRT was initially designed for OpenGL workstation applications with fast RAID array setups.

Trial Fusion shows direct HDD to VRAM on consoles shows texture pop in issues i.e. there's a mismatch with console's storage selection or the size of the texture stream. AMD PRT looks nice on paper and doesn't look nice when it's coupled with a slow HDD. We'll see how Doom 4 overcomes console's storage issues or it's another texture pop in issue game title.

MS's 9 GB Tiled Resource demo doesn't have to worry about HDD issues since it's streaming textures from faster main memory to fastest/smaller VRAM. Remember, fast/smaller VRAM is being use as a cache and cache hit rates are important. Notice CPU has several level of cache e.g. level 1, level 2 and level 3. My point, use DDR3 as lesser level cache below the faster/smaller VRAM. For PS4, there's no option but to use GDDR5 as a-look-ahead buffer. Again, Trial Fusion's texture pop ins shows the limit for direct slow HDD to VRAM streaming.