Xbone is in a really bad position right now.

A score that means something to 1 out of every 200 gamers, congrats, I couldn't care less and neither could essentially the rest of the gaming community. I played the game and it's one of the most uninteresting, substance lacking, boring and repetitive hack and slash games I have ever touched, complete waste of my money.

@nyadc: bb bb bbut score doesn't matter, but my opninion does GTFO

you just bad at it

who can play borza more then 10 minutes withougt wanting to switch game

true gamers are beating the hell outa bloodborne and going deep in that game

or mastering street fighter 5 etc

borza gtho ur only good for like 10 mins every week

Sony promised you a racer, but delayed it 50 times, and then delivered a shit product. Yeah, that's so much better way to deal with your customers...

Dodging enemies, shooting them and slashing, it's not exactly difficult meta. It takes a whole five minutes to familiarize yourself with the game mechanics and then you rinse and repeat the same actions over and over again to progress, it's boring as shit.

@FastRobby: after 3 years waiting he got himself a racer LOLOL

and a flop called MCC

@nyadc: sure whatever makes your bed wet

93 hur hur

TMCC didn't flop, flop implies the game sold poorly or the game was poor, that of which neither apply. It had a match making issue which while took months to fix completely and was a huge problem, doesn't make the game a flop. Driveclub flopped because it's mediocrity and had issues, The Order flopped because it's five hours long and it's mediocrity. If you take the aggregate scores of the individual games housed inside of The Master Chief Collection and average them out what does it equal?

A 93.25 on Metacritic, egg on your face...

MCC really only flopped here and has an 86 on MC, hardly the biggest flop of the gen.

@nyadc: first learn how SW works then talk

MCC is FLOP, master sixflop collection

I think only the number matters to him, context can go suck a lemon as far he's concerned.

@extrodinare101: who said the biggest ?

FLOP

I couldn't give less of a damn how things work in this stupid system wars bubble, 2 million sales, four games with Metacritic ratings which average out to a 93.25, you ain't got shit kid.

@nyadc: FLOP

you do care, because you keep trying

You did, you stated exactly

"ohh and never forget the biggest flop of the generation MCC LMAO"

I literally quoted you before you edited your post, you were too slow.

@extrodinare101: alright it is man

sixflop collection 9+ franchise dropped this hard

halo is no more

I saw it too.

So you're basically using Metacritic and then using Gamespot when it suits your argument. No wonder Playstation fans have such a poor rep on this forum. Jesus

Four games which launched broken. Match making was obviously trash. On top of that frame rate issues plagued the split screen and the exact same frame rate issues that were present in Halo 4 weren't fixed in this release. On top of that there were lots of bugs such as saves not working correctly, game crashing, achievements not unlocking. The game was broken to hell and back. I'm failing to see why you're bringing up the scores for the initial release when these games couldn't be played in the same capacity as the original releases.

Not just that, this lglz1337 nerd probably doesn't even own Bloodborne and he's going nuts defending it... I don't doubt it.

"A racer"

You fool, GT vs Forza was far and AWAY one of the biggest arguments on SWs. People give a whole lot more of a shit about them then this. FM6 and GT7 will make Bloodbourne look like a memory.

lems got their first nich exlusive game after 3 years waiting LOL

and also a product that shatterd their dreams MCC

To be honest I couldn't care less about scores, I've played plenty of games that have scores in the 60's and 70's that I enjoyed way more than some games in the 90's. I just think the logic being used is ridiculous, Playstation fans will change their colors more than an Everlasting Gobstopper.

@extrodinare101: always use metacritic

85 is a flop

Those other issues were fixed within the first two weeks of release which is typical of most games having hotfixes, anything else? Also you people are greatly over-dramatizing not only the frequency of the issues, but also the capacity in which they affected the game.

P.S. Bloodborne has a very poor framerate in general, it feels like it's running at 22 FPS, and ridiculous load times, you die and have to literally wait 30 second to spawn again. In a game where you can die within seconds of being respawned that is unacceptable.

I do agree that MCC was a total bust regardless of the 86 it has, they really should of just released Halo 2A by itself, no one wanted Halo 4 again...

lol you literally just called it the Sixflop collection, where else are you getting the 6 from? Certainly not MC, can you keep track of your own post for like....more than 30 seconds?

@HalcyonScarlet: lmao after 3 years waiting you got yourself a "killer app"

Part of me wants to believe that lglz1337 is a brilliant troll, but I'm honestly convinced at this point that he's legitimately this stupid.

I got the game after two weeks of it being released and they were most certainly not fixed. The frequency of the issue? Playing splitscreen Halo 2 is nearly a constant slide show, the game drops to the 20s at times with it averaging in the 30s (when it's meant to run at 60fps). As of just after Christmas, that issue was certainly not fixed.

You can defend the game all you want, you're only fooling yourself about its quality.

That is total bullshit....

@PonchoTaco said:

haha, good prediction.

On topic, I think it's a good thing what happened to both MS & Nintendo. So they would never do that (releasing underpowered hardware) next time around.

@extrodinare101: sixflop sounding better man

85 not so much, but still a Flop

either way MCC is a flop

Microsoft didn't release underpowered hardware, one console was always going to have more power than the other, it's an inevitability.

I'm glad you're able to tell me I'm wrong about something I've experienced myself after playing through all the single player campaigns and dabbling in multiplayer when it decided to work. The game released in a very broken state and it stayed that way for a considerable amount of time. There is evidence all over the internet of this. You seem to be the only one saying most things were fixed after a few weeks when the reality of the matter is, they weren't.

But you just called it the biggest flop of the generation, you said, and I quote

"ohh and never forget the biggest flop of the generation MCC LMAO"

I seriously doubt you can remember what you had for breakfast this morning.

But most things were fixed within a matter of a few weeks... The only real issue which remained a constant was the match making and multi-player issues... All of these fixes are documented I hope you realize...

@extrodinare101: so far it's

is a joke for this industrie after 3 years MS are still not able to come up with fresh ideas, only broken games and a racer that's freaking it LOL.

MS are clowning their customers

Documented? You mean they say they've fixed them, thus they've definitely been fixed? I guess that explains the constant issues people posted about the game months after release, yes that makes a lot of sense. Like I said, you can keep lying to yourself, or you can accept the reality that these games remained broken for at least a matter of months.

lol this is too funny, you made a stupid comment, I called you out on it and you're changing the subject now.

Yeah, MS is clowning their customers, as oppose to Sony giving you a 4 hour 60$ movie, a racing game that was broken and it's free version that vanished off the face of the planet, terrible online even though they're charging for it now, and Bloodborne, that's $400 well spent.

It doesn't matter how much you type when the whole point of it is 'tales-from-my-ass'. The dude you replied to, and I, asked for some evidence, it's basically just your own speculation.

Fucking lol'd.

@extrodinare101: or was it lems ignoring the subject ?

fact is MS are clowning their customers for 3+ years waiting and release broken games and anual games afyer those long long years

how can you be a proud xbox gamer atm ?LMAO

Lol this is too funny, you can't even make a post without flip flopping in the span of a minute, you called the game the biggest flop of the gen even though most of the PS4's exclusives have flopped harder. Then you changed it to MS clowning their customers when Sony is clowning their customers just as badly. Did you enjoy paying $60 for 4 hours of gameplay, do you enjoy awful servers that you're now paying for? Do you enjoy having to go through 10 flops to finally get a game? $400 Bloodborne player right?

I'd continue this discussion with you but I don't want any more of my brain cells to commit suicide.

Dude I'm a PC gamer, I'm not starved for games. I'm a Forza Motorsport fan too though.

Now how about you cows? Infamous was good but not a killer app. So you guys haven't had a game since 2013 and that was on the PS3? Now you have a niche Souls game. Now you won't have another big retail exclusive until next year? Do you know how ridiculous you sound trying to make this out to be a big deal?

Not quite sure how it's in a bad spot when it's doing just as well if not better I believe than the 360 at the same point in time. Is the ps4 doing better than the Xbox One in sales? Sure it is but the ps4 doing better than the Xbox One does not mean the Xbox One is doing poorly. Also I know cows are happy that bloodborne finally let them exhale a little but as far as upcoming games on the ps4 can you name me some games I should get excited about compared to these:

Halo 5

Quantum Break

Tomb Raider

Crackdown 3

Scalebound

Forza 6

Phantom Dust

Fable Legends

The new Gears

Real talk except for Uncharted 4 I can't think of any upcoming games on the ps4 to get excited about. Okay maybe Street Fighter 4....MAYBE. Also I just want to mention that Uncharted 4 getting pushed into 2016 pretty much guarantees the ps4 getting raped again this holiday season and the first title mentioned on this list can do that all by itself. Adding any other titles to release alongside it (including any big AAA multiplats--Star Wars Battlefront anyone?) is basically humiliation and that's not even counting any surprises MS has in store at E3. Lol this thread is a joke.

The difference is drastic enough to deter gamers from preferring X1 when it comes to multiplats.

I own both launch consoles and went into this gen thinking my favorite is going to be X1 (since my favorite last gen was by far X360 due to multiplats).

However, similar to what happened last gen, the moment I noticed myself purchasing multiplats exclusively on my PS4, I knew it's game over for my X1. And sure enough, it's now collecting dust (rarely used / only for exclusives).

This experience (for myself and others like me) translates into this:

a) Poor 3rd party sales

b) Abandonment.

c) More 3rd party exclusives towards PS4.

d) Less X1 sales

e) vicious circle => goto (a)

In any case, I think this is a positive thing for MS if they learned from this gen's mistake.

However, if they again released an underpowered console next gen, then they evidently learned nothing.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/system-wars-survival-guide-2-0-forum-guidelines-an-31089433/#0

MCC flopped here it scored a 6 read that link i pasted there it explain what a flop is here.

MCC has 85% and still broken in some parts months after release,and on release it was broken as hell it got 85% because it was Halo and many sites score it well regardless of the broken online which on Halo is the bread and butter of the game,so those games you could have them on 360 on working form on XBO they didn't work online.

So the damage control for Bloodborn continnues..hahaha

You have 70+ games less on xbox one,the xbox one has lower scoring games than the PS4 2,that is all i care since it is a gaming console not a TV cable box.

Reality is no APP on xbox one compete with share play on PS4 the xbox one is behind on apps that really count toward gamers,no i don't want a pizza hut app or a TV tunner,i have my phone and my cable box for that.

Considering that both live and PSN+ have problems last year i say both have problems.

It could be worse get less games,inferior versions and pay $500 $100 more than the competition...lol

Those minute issues you were speaking of were all quashed in the first few game updates, just as I said they were. The rest of the updates were polishing things, getting rid of stupid little bugs that didn't really matter and working on match making. I'm really not going to bother with you any longer, enjoy the read and piss off.

11/14/14 Update

11/20/14 Update

11/26/14 Update

12/3/14 Update

12/7/14 Update

12/15/14 Update

12/22/14 Update

1/19/15 Update

1/31/15 Update

3/3/15 Update

You sound quite mad and went through a lot of trouble to try and prove me wrong. I don't particularly care to trawl through their update listings especially when I have played the game and have experienced numerous issues well after launch as have numbers of other people.

There's a big difference between being mad and halting the spread of over-dramatization and misinformation.

I'm not talking about the "System Wars" bubble you people live in where you think that the outside world does not exist and you base your entire view of a game off of the subjective findings and score of a single person, that's not only idiotic, gauging a games worth and standing in reality based upon that is mind bogglingly ridiculous.

It hasn't been broken in a quite a while friend, like the other guy in this thread you're simply making things up, the issues are for the most part completely fixed, most were fixed in the first few updates.... Everything is within perfectly normal or acceptable parameters of a video game functioning as a cohesive and complete product.