Why? Halo 4 alone outsold every PS exclusive ever that isn't Gran Turismo. I expect gargantuan sales for Halo 5 and it will probably match or even out sell Uncharted 4 despite the install base numbers. You are severly underestimating Halo.
In context of being able to move hardware.
There you go using charts for numbers again when you yourself have admitted they don't show any numbers.
I expect Bloodborne to sell at least 2 million units. See this is why Bayonetta 2 should have been exclusive to PS4, more people could appreciate it.
2 million units lifetime or WW by NPD?
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They don't show actual numbers buffoon but they show who is winning and by a considerable margin.
Also show a trending.
You're a fun stupid guy to talk with very entertaining.
You basically said: "They don't show actual numbers, but they show numbers."
Software has never indicated a gap, whether it's exact numbers or whether it's how big a gap could be. It's never done that ever. Call of Duty dropped hard in February, was way in the back, has tons of items and games ahead of it constantly, The Order was pounding, GTAV was constantly in the top 30, often getting around the top 10 area and in it, COD came in at 4 above GTA, The Order entered at number 9,. This was fwebruary.
In fact, Evolve fell off in February completely and it came in at number 2.
Shows nothing, and I hope you have learned something valuable today.
As odd as that may sound I think the Halo MCC did more than people think (more=/=win). Outside of Amazon, on Best Buy best sellers, there were 2 PS4's and the Wii U ahead of the Halo MCC, now the Halo MCC is second behind the TLOU bundle, AC bundle moved up to below the Wii U, the regPS4 dropped (expected with TLOU bundle but...) before the regular Xbox One kinect bundle(?). This is the first time I have seen such rankings on best buy.
In Gamestop best sellers, the Xbox one had the TLOU bundle and White and Black refurbished bundle ahead of it, along with the AC Bundle. Now the AC Bundle has dropped out the top 5, The Xbox One Halo MCC is now ahead of both refurbished consoles, and the TLOU Bundle new consoles, and the only thing ahead of it is the recently revealed Arkam Limited edition bundle pretty much means that the Xbox One Halo MCC cumulative sales are in #1 at Gamestop. Something I have never seen since launch for the GS charts. Ever period.
Target the Xbox One Halo MCC is winning. Walmart has all Xbox One console items in the top 10 have Halo involved in some way, The top 5 is PS4, Ps4, Xbox One, PS4, Xbox One. One thing to consider though is that online Wal mart allows some mixing and matching and other special buys, so the real uninflated rankings in the top 5 are: PS4, Xbox, PS4, Xbox, Xbox. All Xbox have Halo Except for #5, which in this case would be the regular kinect bundle (this sudden rise also happened at best buy so this may be an actual trend.)
Only site not trending is Amazon.
Now I'm not saying that the Xbox one is going to win or anything but the gap may not be as big as it looks like it may in terms of HARDWARE ONLY anyway.
I could see something like 20-40k. There is a slim chance Xbox One could win since there is one more week. Neverwinter also comes (which apparently isn't that good) out today but with 2 big games of Bloodborne and MLB15 I'm not touching that one. But I do believe the Xbox One may not be destroyed as it started to look like.
You're a fun stupid guy to talk with very entertaining.
You basically said: "They don't show actual numbers, but they show numbers."
Software has never indicated a gap, whether it's exact numbers or whether it's how big a gap could be. It's never done that ever. Call of Duty dropped hard in February, was way in the back, has tons of items and games ahead of it constantly, The Order was pounding, GTAV was constantly in the top 30, often getting around the top 10 area and in it, COD came in at 4 above GTA, The Order entered at number 9,. This was fwebruary.
In fact, Evolve fell off in February completely and it came in at number 2.
Shows nothing, and I hope you have learned something valuable today.
Want to bet the PS4 will outsell the xbox one.?
If you are so secure that it shows nothing go ahead.
Amazon charts is a reflection of what is going on now,the PS4 is walking over the XBO sales wise,is not even close on amazon,during January and February the XBO remained close,now it dropped to hell out of even the top 50 while the PS4 has 3 bundles on the top 20 is a massacre,not even on its biggest sales the gap was so big.
The PS4 has 2 bundles which are $100 and $109 more expensive than the xbox one bundles and still both are charting one is on spot 2 the other on spot 20..lol
The closes the xbox one is 50...lol
You're a fun stupid guy to talk with very entertaining.
You basically said: "They don't show actual numbers, but they show numbers."
Software has never indicated a gap, whether it's exact numbers or whether it's how big a gap could be. It's never done that ever. Call of Duty dropped hard in February, was way in the back, has tons of items and games ahead of it constantly, The Order was pounding, GTAV was constantly in the top 30, often getting around the top 10 area and in it, COD came in at 4 above GTA, The Order entered at number 9,. This was fwebruary.
In fact, Evolve fell off in February completely and it came in at number 2.
Shows nothing, and I hope you have learned something valuable today.
Want to bet the PS4 will outsell the xbox one.?
Which was never you argument and the part of your post I cut out continues to talk about numbers. In fact, this whole discussion was based off software not hardware, apparently you have to automatically create a fanboy war situation to even start a conversation.
Secure what? I never said anything about Xbox winning at all what is wrong with you seriously?
As odd as that may sound I think the Halo MCC did more than people think (more=/=win). Outside of Amazon, on Best Buy best sellers, there were 2 PS4's and the Wii U ahead of the Halo MCC, now the Halo MCC is second behind the TLOU bundle, AC bundle moved up to below the Wii U, the regPS4 dropped (expected with TLOU bundle but...) before the regular Xbox One kinect bundle(?). This is the first time I have seen such rankings on best buy.
In Gamestop best sellers, the Xbox one had the TLOU bundle and White and Black refurbished bundle ahead of it, along with the AC Bundle. Now the AC Bundle has dropped out the top 5, The Xbox One Halo MCC is now ahead of both refurbished consoles, and the TLOU Bundle new consoles, and the only thing ahead of it is the recently revealed Arkam Limited edition bundle pretty much means that the Xbox One Halo MCC cumulative sales are in #1 at Gamestop. Something I have never seen since launch for the GS charts. Ever period.
Target the Xbox One Halo MCC is winning. Walmart has all Xbox One console items in the top 10 have Halo involved in some way, The top 5 is PS4, Ps4, Xbox One, PS4, Xbox One. One thing to consider though is that online Wal mart allows some mixing and matching and other special buys, so the real uninflated rankings in the top 5 are: PS4, Xbox, PS4, Xbox, Xbox. All Xbox have Halo Except for #5, which in this case would be the regular kinect bundle (this sudden rise also happened at best buy so this may be an actual trend.)
Only site not trending is Amazon.
Now I'm not saying that the Xbox one is going to win or anything but the gap may not be as big as it looks like it may in terms of HARDWARE ONLY anyway.
I could see something like 20-40k. There is a slim chance Xbox One could win since there is one more week. Neverwinter also comes (which apparently isn't that good) out today but with 2 big games of Bloodborne and MLB15 I'm not touching that one. But I do believe the Xbox One may not be destroyed as it started to look like.
We'll know in a couple of weeks. That's an interesting vantage on the subject.
Which was never you argument and the part of your post I cut out continues to talk about numbers. In fact, this whole discussion was based off software not hardware, apparently you have to automatically create a fanboy war situation to even start a conversation.
Secure what? I never said anything about Xbox winning at all what is wrong with you seriously?
My argument is that the xbox one is been kill on amazon,you start bitching about how amazon didn't show actual numbers,the reality is that the further apart you are on that chart the bigger the gap is,after all if you are on the top 20 is because you are selling between the best 20 products that sell,if you are at spot 50 even with a $100 less product than the competition first bundle is clear you have a problem.
Remember when i claim the gap would not be smaller than 50k this month? I still stand by it go ahead make a prediction.
I think PS4 is in a bad position now, they got lucky at the start of the gen even with terrible exclusive games and sold more
But PS4 has an up hill battle coming on the horizon, it has nothing worth talking about coming for the rest of the year, no big game to hype for the holidays, nothing to get people excited about and want to purchase a PS4
X1 has gamers covered with a stellar line up of big AAA franchise
Halo 5 is going to be massive and MS is already getting the hype train moving
Forza 6 is there for the racing fan's the best racing series around that doesn't take forever to come out
Rise of the Tombraider is going to be incredible and probably be one of the best action adventure game ever made, the first game was amazingly good
Scalebound, Quantum Break and Crackdown don't have launch dates so we don't if MS will push those into 2016 or if one will get a surprise reveal like Forza Horzion 2 and come out this year, but I suspect MS will keep those for next as the competition isn't really trying
I think PS4 is in a bad position now, they got lucky at the start of the gen even with terrible exclusive games and sold more
But PS4 has an up hill battle coming on the horizon, it has nothing worth talking about coming for the rest of the year, no big game to hype for the holidays, nothing to get people excited about and want to purchase a PS4
X1 has gamers covered with a stellar line up of big AAA franchise
Halo 5 is going to be massive and MS is already getting the hype train moving
Forza 6 is there for the racing fan's the best racing series around that doesn't take forever to come out
Rise of the Tombraider is going to be incredible and probably be one of the best action adventure game ever made, the first game was amazingly good
Scalebound, Quantum Break and Crackdown don't have launch dates so we don't if MS will push those into 2016 or if one will get a surprise reveal like Forza Horzion 2 and come out this year, but I suspect MS will keep those for next as the competition isn't really trying
All true SP approved. :P
I think PS4 is in a bad position now, they got lucky at the start of the gen even with terrible exclusive games and sold more
hahaha.... AAAHAHAHAHA. you think they sold more because of LUCK? the amount of denial is baffling.
i'm a PC gamer myself, but i had to grab myself a PS4 just for Bloodborne. i truly think that Xbone is in deep shizzle.
btw, both x1 and ps4 had bad games at launch.
edit: i genuinely think that hardcore Xbox fanboys are the only people that are still able to be excited about X1.
Xbox one is in great position. Its not going to be the main stream success that PS4 is, but it still is going to do great things. Lots of goodness to come out in fall/holiday 2015. 2016 is looking promising with Quantum Break and most likely Crackdown 3.
Will have xbox one have taylor swift mass appeal like PS4, maybe/maybe not. Xbox One still has a core audience as a band like Tool where it will survive without the mainstream.
I think PS4 is in a bad position now, they got lucky at the start of the gen even with terrible exclusive games and sold more
hahaha.... AAAHAHAHAHA. you think they sold more because of LUCK? the amount of denial is baffling.
i'm a PC gamer myself, but i had to grab myself a PS4 just for Bloodborne. i truly think that Xbone is in deep shizzle.
btw, both x1 and ps4 had bad games at launch.
edit: i genuinely think that hardcore Xbox fanboys are the only people that are still able to be excited about X1.
F×#ckin hell, how old are you guys? Xb1 might not be doing aswell in sales as ps4, xb1 might not be as powerful when you delve deep into it, who gives a flying f#@k, both consoles have good and bad points. I prefer the xb1 cos its more than just a console. Before that i had a 360, but i'm not some crazy fan boy like you guys, i dont doubt that the ps3/and ps4 are good consoles, i will get a ps3 one day so i can play infamous and mgs4. You guys need to grow up this aint never never land. Fraggle beans
Which was never you argument and the part of your post I cut out continues to talk about numbers. In fact, this whole discussion was based off software not hardware, apparently you have to automatically create a fanboy war situation to even start a conversation.
Secure what? I never said anything about Xbox winning at all what is wrong with you seriously?
My argument is that the xbox one is been kill on amazon,you start bitching about how amazon didn't show actual numbers,the reality is that the further apart you are on that chart the bigger the gap is,after all if you are on the top 20 is because you are selling between the best 20 products that sell,if you are at spot 50 even with a $100 less product than the competition first bundle is clear you have a problem.
Remember when i claim the gap would not be smaller than 50k this month? I still stand by it go ahead make a prediction.
You yourself have said that numbers or any indication of any numbers in any gap, can be seen on Amazon, you know this and have said this, yet Xbox One is "kill" On Amazon and even said the bigger the gap in the chart, the larger the gap is, when that is also never true at all ever, HIGH Evolve how are you doing, the game that charted in the top 3. Remember when you were dead off of the Amazon 100 for weeks and then ended up charting (#2 I believe) on Feb NPD? Well that didn't really happen according to Tormentos.
Right tormentos?
Right?
As odd as that may sound I think the Halo MCC did more than people think (more=/=win). Outside of Amazon, on Best Buy best sellers, there were 2 PS4's and the Wii U ahead of the Halo MCC, now the Halo MCC is second behind the TLOU bundle, AC bundle moved up to below the Wii U, the regPS4 dropped (expected with TLOU bundle but...) before the regular Xbox One kinect bundle(?). This is the first time I have seen such rankings on best buy.
In Gamestop best sellers, the Xbox one had the TLOU bundle and White and Black refurbished bundle ahead of it, along with the AC Bundle. Now the AC Bundle has dropped out the top 5, The Xbox One Halo MCC is now ahead of both refurbished consoles, and the TLOU Bundle new consoles, and the only thing ahead of it is the recently revealed Arkam Limited edition bundle pretty much means that the Xbox One Halo MCC cumulative sales are in #1 at Gamestop. Something I have never seen since launch for the GS charts. Ever period.
Target the Xbox One Halo MCC is winning. Walmart has all Xbox One console items in the top 10 have Halo involved in some way, The top 5 is PS4, Ps4, Xbox One, PS4, Xbox One. One thing to consider though is that online Wal mart allows some mixing and matching and other special buys, so the real uninflated rankings in the top 5 are: PS4, Xbox, PS4, Xbox, Xbox. All Xbox have Halo Except for #5, which in this case would be the regular kinect bundle (this sudden rise also happened at best buy so this may be an actual trend.)
Only site not trending is Amazon.
Now I'm not saying that the Xbox one is going to win or anything but the gap may not be as big as it looks like it may in terms of HARDWARE ONLY anyway.
I could see something like 20-40k. There is a slim chance Xbox One could win since there is one more week. Neverwinter also comes (which apparently isn't that good) out today but with 2 big games of Bloodborne and MLB15 I'm not touching that one. But I do believe the Xbox One may not be destroyed as it started to look like.
We'll know in a couple of weeks. That's an interesting vantage on the subject.
It's really even more interesting since yesterday night and right now, as I believe a lot of core gamers were inflating the sales charts which is easy to do on Amazon, Yesterday night Halo MCC game by itself shot up to the top 20 at 18 and stayed for a bit, it fell back down, but is still top of the second page. COD AW Xbox One version, which has constantly been in the 60's area, is not in the top 40 and rising. Even a few Wii U related material is shooting upward, so that would indicate that whatever the charts were showing the last few weeks were just pushing everything else down. Even the AC bundle is randomly getting some boosts all of a sudden and it's still sold by TPS.
As of today, AC unity bundle moved up in Best Buy charts, and it's now Limited Arkam PS3, PS4 TLOU, Halo MCC, ACVU, Wii U, for the top 5.
At Gamestop as of today, the order is Limited Arkam, 3DS Majoras Mask, PS4 TLOU, Xbox HaloMCC, and ACU moving up to right below Halo MCC.
Walmart is the same.
Target the Halo MCC moved up one. For best selling electronics.
Now will this mean that the Xbox One will win no no no no no. It's a slim possibility at best.
But the gap will probably be around the same or less than January. Possibly less since there's still the rest of the week left for this months NPD and Halo MCC is doing much better everywhere else outside of Amazon.
No, it's an impossibility at best. The degree to which the Xbox gets destroyed in March will set the tone for the rest of the year, though.
Dare we said it could be bloodbourne? How fitting.
If the Xbone shows resilliency in the face of a JRPG (massively in favor of the PS fanbase despite being cross-platform) and a AAAE exclusive like Bloodborne, then I'd say people's faith in it is not entirely misplaced. However, I am highly skeptical. All of the factors that have played to NPD results before are showing that it's going to get ugly.
its just a bad console
I think PS4 is in a bad position now, they got lucky at the start of the gen even with terrible exclusive games and sold more
hahaha.... AAAHAHAHAHA. you think they sold more because of LUCK? the amount of denial is baffling.
i'm a PC gamer myself, but i had to grab myself a PS4 just for Bloodborne. i truly think that Xbone is in deep shizzle.
btw, both x1 and ps4 had bad games at launch.
edit: i genuinely think that hardcore Xbox fanboys are the only people that are still able to be excited about X1.
F×#ckin hell, how old are you guys? Xb1 might not be doing aswell in sales as ps4, xb1 might not be as powerful when you delve deep into it, who gives a flying f#@k, both consoles have good and bad points. I prefer the xb1 cos its more than just a console. Before that i had a 360, but i'm not some crazy fan boy like you guys, i dont doubt that the ps3/and ps4 are good consoles, i will get a ps3 one day so i can play infamous and mgs4. You guys need to grow up this aint never never land. Fraggle beans
omfg man.... it's still a GAMING CONSOLE! that's it's main focus! M$ really sold their marketing shit to you, didn't they? X1 does NOTHING of interest to me besides games. i've read that it serves as some sort of cable box or streaming device in US? well, i have access to all that crap here in europe without any separate devices other than TV, so no thank you.
No, it's an impossibility at best. The degree to which the Xbox gets destroyed in March will set the tone for the rest of the year, though.
Not really, say if for some reason the gap is 100k, that probably won't continue as both won't really have any noteworthy games until Batman and the Witcher 3.
However. the chances of a 100k victory or more for this month look slim looking at other retailers top lists. Very slim chance of winning however, if that happened something went wrong. Like I said before maybe the same or less than January.
Even on Amazon a ton of Xbox One related items, not jsut consoles, have gotten big increases since April started, so I don't think they will be destroyed but there's a higher chance of that happening then of them winning.
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