Xbox 360: Dead Space 2 is on two discs.

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#51 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="iAtrocious"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] It was not. Not from a gaming standpoint, at least. It served its purpose, which was helping Sony win the format war, but avoiding disc-swaps is not really a positive income when added everything lost because of it.Animal-Mother

I'm not doubting your statement, but what did the PS3 lose by using the Blu-Ray discs?

A step ahead of the 360. It lost a year on the market due to blu-ray

Posted at the same time.

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#52 EliteM0nk3y
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Just read the 360 review on IGN... he never mentions the 2 discs. So it isn't a big apparently. Especially since it looks like he REALLY likes the game.
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#53 UpJTBoogie
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That blu ray is paying off, hope it doesn't get worse over the rest of the gen,
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#54 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="iAtrocious"]I'm not doubting your statement, but what did the PS3 lose by using the Blu-Ray discs?IronBass
Money, marketshare and third-party exclusive support. Having Blu-Ray is the biggest reason why the PS3 was so expensive at launch, which led to the massive difference in sales from the PS2 to the PS3. During that time the 360 built a very solid userbase, and that's why games believed/supposed PS3 exclusives (GTAIV, Assassin's Creed, FFXIII, Tekken, etc) ended in the 360. That's without saying how much money it was lost for selling the PS3 at a loss.

Blaming why PS3 is at where it is at right now is fooie. Why not take out the entire history of Sony if we are going to put the blame on blu-ray? It's Sony. That's what they do. "Wow look at what the PS2 did to GC and Dreamcast!" No no. Cd to DVD good. DVD to blu-ray bad. It's common sense really.

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#55 gamer620
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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

[QUOTE="James161324"]

Worst news ever you have to get off your butt for 5 secs

It's not the getting up your seat, but interrupting the experience(even though it's only for a little moment) Installing the game would fix this minor annoyance(though I won't lie, I prefer having the game in one disc).

News flash.... Developers are getting pretty smart with disc swaps now where it is more often than not in a place where it does NOT interrupt the experience. (excluding star ocean 4...)
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#56 Reach-The-Myth
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[QUOTE="Reach-The-Myth"]

Remember guys, the disc swap is for the immersion... Once you open the disc tray - A NECROMORPH BABY JUMPS OUT THE DISC AND RIPS YOUR THROAT OPEN!... I don't see that immersion on any other console, do I?

GreenGoblin2099

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*walks away*

Some people just can't take that level of horror... So You Walk Away!!!!!!!!!!!
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#57 lhughey
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You mean I have to get up every 10 -15 hours to change a disk? I'd prefer to change a disk everyone once in a while than to do a 10 minute install for almost every PS3 game.
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#58 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Blaming why PS3 is at where it is at right now is fooie. Why not take out the entire history of Sony if we are going to put the blame on blu-ray? It's Sony. That's what they do. "Wow look at what the PS2 did to GC and Dreamcast!" No no. Cd to DVD good. DVD to blu-ray bad. It's common sense really.LOXO7

I don't think I understand what are you saying. Especially because that sounds a lot like what I said.

Could you clarify it, please?

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#59 tomarlyn
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For something like an RPG I can understand but thats just funny :lol:, PS3 version it is then. I wanted the 360 version at first because I'm used to playing it with the 360 controller, but now this on top of everything else its not worth it.
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#60 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Reach-The-Myth"]

Remember guys, the disc swap is for the immersion... Once you open the disc tray - A NECROMORPH BABY JUMPS OUT THE DISC AND RIPS YOUR THROAT OPEN!... I don't see that immersion on any other console, do I?

Reach-The-Myth

:|

*walks away*

Some people just can't take that level of horror... So You Walk Away!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm like your mom... I hate Dead Space 2.

DISCLAIMER: Mods, this is obviously a joke about the DS2 add, not truly a "your mom" joke.

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#61 Funconsole
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And people says Sony paid EA for Extraction... when the truth is, it wouldn't even fit in a single disc. It would've been 3 discs and that's not sexy at all.

:P

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Yet it fit perfectly on one disc on the Wii :?
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#62 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

And people says Sony paid EA for Extraction... when the truth is, it wouldn't even fit in a single disc. It would've been 3 discs and that's not sexy at all.

:P

Funconsole

Yet it fit perfectly on one disc on the Wii :?

Because that disc didn't have DS2 ;)

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#63 VensInferno
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THIS IS MADNESS! I expect to sit on my couch and never get off ! I am going to sue Microsoft! They take my money and now they are taking 5 seconds of my Life!

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#64 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="Reach-The-Myth"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

:|

*walks away*

GreenGoblin2099

Some people just can't take that level of horror... So You Walk Away!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm like your mom... I hate Dead Space 2.

DISCLAIMER: Mods, this is obviously a joke about the DS2 add, not truly a "your mom" joke.

Nicely done :P
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#65 TintedEyes
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Nice, and people used to laugh at BR
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#66 The_RedLion
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Nice, and people used to laugh at BRTintedEyes
They still do, recently in ME2 mandatory install lol
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#67 LOXO7
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Money, marketshare and third-party exclusive support.

Having Blu-Ray is the biggest reason why the PS3 was so expensive at launch, which led to the massive difference in sales from the PS2 to the PS3. During that time the 360 built a very solid userbase, and that's why games believed/supposed PS3 exclusives (GTAIV, Assassin's Creed, FFXIII, Tekken, etc) ended in the 360. That's without saying how much money it was lost for selling the PS3 at a loss.

Part of the pre-hype/marketing popularized the idea that games were gonna get sooo big that they couldn't fit on DVDs, but now, more than 5 years into this gen, we can see that that's simply not true, since the vast majority of games fit on a single DVD, and the fewthat don't solve that problem easily with more.IronBass

[QUOTE="LOXO7"] Blaming why PS3 is at where it is at right now is fooie. Why not take out the entire history of Sony if we are going to put the blame on blu-ray? It's Sony. That's what they do. "Wow look at what the PS2 did to GC and Dreamcast!" No no. Cd to DVD good. DVD to blu-ray bad. It's common sense really.IronBass
I don't think I understand what are you saying. Could you clarify it, please?

Sony just did what Sony does. PS1, PS2, PS3. They are all different formats. We could say the PS3 would have been as much of a success as the PS2 if it stayed in DVD AND have more exclusive lineups at the start AND probably have it being launched at the same time as the 360. But that isn't Sony. PS1, PS2, PS2.1? No.

That "common sense" part was saracasm. As in what ever Sony did with PS2 was right. And what ever Sony did with PS3 was bad.

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#68 Giant_Panda
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So everyone one should use Blu-Ray next gen. Except one that is actually fast, not like the one PS3 has. A good Blu-Ray drive could actually reduce load times quite a bit over DVD.

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#69 Hakkai007
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TC must not be old enough to remember the PS1 era when we had Final Fantasy games that were 4 discs.

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#70 Twin-Blade
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Nothing wrong with swapping disks unless you're in some sort of extreme pain or discomfort doing so, & if that's the case, the problem isn't multiple disks...

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#71 TakeOFF250
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Yep mandatory install for almost all big games and multiple bluray disc for big movies and tvseries... bluray will not last long ;)
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#72 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Sony just did what Sony does. PS1, PS2, PS3. They are all different formats. We could say the PS3 would have been as much of a success as the PS2 if it stayed in DVD AND have more exclusive lineups at the start AND probably have it being launched at the same time as the 360. But that isn't Sony. PS1, PS2, PS2.1? No.LOXO7
So basically you are saying what I said. Good to know that we agree.
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#73 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Nice, and people used to laugh at BRThe_RedLion
They still do, recently in ME2 mandatory install lol

And now they can laugh at switching discs. *thumbs up*
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#74 djsifer01
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I hate having to swap discs, it interrupts the experience and most times has to be swap alot more than just once. Its so nice to have everything on one disc. So much for BD not being needed this Gen, eh. So, with the PS3 version we get one disc with two games and the 360 version we get one game with two discs. Why would anyone in there right mind get the 360 version unless thats the only console they have?
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Nice, and people used to laugh at BRlbjkurono23
They still do, recently in ME2 mandatory install lol

And now they can laugh at switching discs. *thumbs up*

lol nice
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#76 TintedEyes
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TC must not be old enough to remember the PS1 era when we had Final Fantasy games that were 4 discs.

Hakkai007
So your showing that the 360 is still doing last generation qualities, thats messed up
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#77 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Oh noes, now I have to get my butt off the couch to spend like a minute switching discs, how will I ever recover from the trauma? :cry:
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#78 mccoyca112
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If its a true, I dont see why its a huge deal. Swaps, like installs, aren't a problem unless it'd be 4 disks, or installs like mgs4.

Nothing more than a slight annoyance, though Im getting the ps3 version anyway.

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#79 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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So your showing that the 360 is still doing last generation qualities, thats messed upTintedEyes
The three of them still do (plenty) of last generation qualities. That's neither messed up nor something to be suprised of.
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#80 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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So much for BD not being needed this year, eh.djsifer01
Actually, the fact that it's done in two DVDs proves BD is not needed.
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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Nice, and people used to laugh at BRThe_RedLion
They still do, recently in ME2 mandatory install lol

Yeah, because we all know it better to have multiple discs than spend 15 minutes installing the game. Im sure alot of people like my self when playing a 360 game like to install the game to the HDD. Installing multiple discs sure is faster than a mandatory, right?
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#82 lbjkurono23
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If its a true, I dont see why its a huge deal. Swaps, like installs, aren't a problem unless it'd be 4 disks, or installs like mgs4.

Nothing more than a slight annoyance, though Im getting the ps3 version anyway.

mccoyca112
I didn't like how they handled the installs on mgs4. I would 've preferred to install the entire game and be done with it(it makes replaying your favorites parts a bit annoying)
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#83 Animal-Mother
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Yep mandatory install for almost all big games and multiple bluray disc for big movies and tvseries... bluray will not last long ;)TakeOFF250
Lol, wut? you don't have to install movies unless your being sarcastic

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[QUOTE="TakeOFF250"]Yep mandatory install for almost all big games and multiple bluray disc for big movies and tvseries... bluray will not last long ;)Animal-Mother

Lol, wut? you don't have to install movies unless your being sarcastic

So you have to install movies if you're being sarcastic? Interesting, I did not know that.
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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]So your showing that the 360 is still doing last generation qualities, thats messed upIronBass
The three of them still do (plenty) of last generation qualities. That's neither messed up nor something to be suprised of.

Last gen flaw is a better way to put it, a flaw from 2 gens ago
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#86 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="TakeOFF250"]Yep mandatory install for almost all big games and multiple bluray disc for big movies and tvseries... bluray will not last long ;)charizard1605

Lol, wut? you don't have to install movies unless your being sarcastic

So you have to install movies if you're being sarcastic? Interesting, I did not know that.

I lol'd but seriously you don't have to install movies,tv series etc...
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#87 FastEddie2121
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Its a wonder this topic didn't come up with the whole ME2 ps3 getting an 8.5 debacle since the 360's me2 is on two discs (oh the humanity!). Cows were still stinging over the flop that was to be the "definitive me2." The disc swapping argument has to be one of weakest here in SW.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Lol, wut? you don't have to install movies unless your being sarcastic

lbjkurono23

So you have to install movies if you're being sarcastic? Interesting, I did not know that.

I lol'd but seriously you don't have to install movies,tv series etc...

I know, I was just (humorously) pointing out how his sentence read thanks to lack of punctuation :P

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Last gen flaw is a better way to put it, a flaw from 2 gens agoTintedEyes
Flaws are things that affects negatively either the game experience or the games made. Considering that the game in question is also on the 360, and that disc-swapping hardly affects the game (especially when you consider that the alternative is mandatory installs), none of both requisites are met.
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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Last gen flaw is a better way to put it, a flaw from 2 gens agoIronBass
Flaws are things that affects negatively either the game experience or the games made. Considering that the game in question is also on the 360, and that disc-swapping hardly affects the game (especially when you consider that the alternative is mandatory installs), none of both requisites are met.

yeah, and switching discs negatively affects the experience.
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#91 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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yeah, and switching discs negatively affects the experience.TintedEyes
Not really. It's a nonissue, just like mandatory installs.
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#92 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] So you have to install movies if you're being sarcastic? Interesting, I did not know that.charizard1605

I lol'd but seriously you don't have to install movies,tv series etc...

I know, I was just (humorously) pointing out how his sentence read thanks to lack of punctuation :P

I know, twas quite funny :P
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#93 TintedEyes
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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]yeah, and switching discs negatively affects the experience.IronBass
Not really. It's a nonissue, just like mandatory installs.

depends on the person some peopel hate to do both
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#94 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]yeah, and switching discs negatively affects the experience.IronBass
Not really. It's a nonissue, just like mandatory installs.

But its really not the kind of thing you're going to expect from an action game. Its quite archaic and antiquated these days.
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depends on the person some peopel hate to do bothTintedEyes
"Depending on the person", everything is a issue. Especially on a forum called System Wars. There's not a solid argument for why a 30 sec disc switch or a 5 minutes install is an issue.
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#96 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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But its really not the kind of thing you're going to expect from an action game. Its quite archaic and antiquated these days.tomarlyn
It has nothing to do with genre.
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#97 mccoyca112
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[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

If its a true, I dont see why its a huge deal. Swaps, like installs, aren't a problem unless it'd be 4 disks, or installs like mgs4.

Nothing more than a slight annoyance, though Im getting the ps3 version anyway.

lbjkurono23

I didn't like how they handled the installs on mgs4. I would 've preferred to install the entire game and be done with it(it makes replaying your favorites parts a bit annoying)

That, almost single handedly, stirs me away from firing it up. I also like to save at each area, each boss(etc), so I can jump into any section I want and that means install time. True enough its just a bit of time, but its enough to get me fed up about there not being a workaround solution ala Install once and be done.

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#98 SaltyMeatballs
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2 discs for the price of 1. Awesome...
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#99 lbjkurono23
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2 discs for the price of 1. Awesome...SaltyMeatballs
Thats one way of looking at it. :P
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#100 Hakkai007
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So your showing that the 360 is still doing last generation qualities, thats messed upTintedEyes

More like showing that the newer generation of gamers are spoiled and lazier.