Xbox 360 Finally Getting Blu-ray

[QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="jessie5788"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="jessie5788"]if this is true then once again ms is copying sony for getting it right in the beginning. its funny seeing all the lems say great one up for ms when every last one of you bashed sony for doing the same thing. this is not like dualshock 3 no one demanded this no devs asked for this. its a waste to even bring this.jessie5788

very very false. both ps3 owners and kojima demanded rumble http://gaygamer.net/2006/11/kojima_wants_ps3_rumble_back.html

microsoft said from the start that they would support blueray if it were to win the format war. you know whats funny? i dont recall lemmings making a big deala about sony adding an hardrive to the ps3.

i may of reworded this wrong . i m saying no one is demanding blu-ray on the 360 like the way dualshock was demanded. and hardrive was there from the begining it was never introduced later.

:|....So who's on first base?

..BR has never been on the 360 so how can you measure demand? Sony pulled rumble for the PS3 after it's huge success on the PS2...Of course rumble was missed +120 Mil people used it..

its not hard to see if something is demanded. rumble for example was demanded. devs like kojima wanted rumble back fans actually wanted it back. i'm pretty sure if you went back to 06 threads some people were mad about rumble being gone. blu-ray on the 360 is just as easy to find also. how many times do you see lems make threads about wanting a blu-ray on there system how many devs say that they want a blu-ray player on the 360. next to none.

So you base your facts on demand by how many topics are on it in a game forum?.....Emmm...wow..

Note to self: Patent a muffler bearing and post in all the car enthusiasts sites and i will be a millionaire

The quote that re-affirmed my belief that DVD will be the king until next gen...

"Many expected the death of HD-DVD would trigger a growth in Blu-ray hardware sales. However, to the dismay of the industry, acceptance and adoption of Blu-ray has been dismal."

Blue Ray will take around 3-6 years to be widely accepted. Also, by the time it is accepted, we will be in a world were we are downloading are movies in HD, or watching movies in HD on demand through Cable/Sat. Dish networks... Also, for those pirate, pirating movies is evolving into online streaming in high quality... Piracy may kill blue ray sales as well...

that isnt confirmed. The news just came today out of the blu (haha pun). No one has confirmed or denied. Or even gotten a response from M$ yet.

If its true Im taking a safe bet that itll be godly expensive but cheap enough to justify because ull get Xbox games witha blu ray player. However how many people are going to want to be able to hear their 360's fans over their Blu Ray movie? And with Blu Ray probablly increasing usage of the average 360 RRoD will just because a bigger problem. Idk how many people will want to have RRoD in the middle of their movie.

If confirmed, millions of PS3s will be collecting dust.

Blue Ray will take around 3-6 years to be widely accepted. Also, by the time it is accepted, we will be in a world were we are downloading are movies in HD, or watching movies in HD on demand through Cable/Sat. Dish networks...

theonlyGAMESTER

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="Taalon"]Lemmings: "Buh...buh...but teh blu-ray is teh lamez!!!!111!!!"wasted_wisdom

BluRay is great and i'm a lemming but so was HDDVD but it died so if I as a lemming want HD movies then BluRay it is

Wait lemme' get this straight, you're saying MS got owned and so did all of you who said blu-ray wasn't needed for gaming?

You're saying that all that bashing of Bluray and saying its going to fail was wrong afterall? You're actually saying you don't like overhyped exclusive games that come in like 6 dvds? *coughs-Lost odessy-cough*

LEMMENS ALL GOT OWNED!!!

A cow referring to overhyped exclusives is like Michael Jackson referring to perverts, it means nothing.

:lol: I am going to need a more reliable source than some site called tomshardware.l-_-l

Post that in the PC board, they will eat you alive.

lol your forgetting Sony will get a profit off 360 for getting blu ray on there console a good day for Sony indeed.

[QUOTE="ToScA-"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]:lol: I am going to need a more reliable source than some site called tomshardware.Dreams-Visions

Are you serious?

Clearly the guy does absolutely nothing with PCs. At. All.

you sir made my day with you ignorance. thank you

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]:lol: I am going to need a more reliable source than some site called tomshardware.cliff122316

Are you serious?

Clearly the guy does absolutely nothing with PCs. At. All.

you sir made my day with you ignorance. thank you

Says the guy sporting lil'wayne in his signature. The ultimate irony?

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]:lol: I am going to need a more reliable source than some site called tomshardware.SSCyborg

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20080502PB200.html

Some Chinese newspaper is the source

It's manifactured in China. Makes sense...

[QUOTE="cliff122316"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]:lol: I am going to need a more reliable source than some site called tomshardware.Pro_wrestler

Are you serious?

Clearly the guy does absolutely nothing with PCs. At. All.

you sir made my day with you ignorance. thank you

Says the guy sporting lil'wayne in his signature. The ultimate irony?

how is that ignorance

lol hey guys what happened to the "were getting MGS4" thing lol u 360 guys r such liars

[QUOTE="cliff122316"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]:lol: I am going to need a more reliable source than some site called tomshardware.Pro_wrestler

Are you serious?

Clearly the guy does absolutely nothing with PCs. At. All.

you sir made my day with you ignorance. thank you

Says the guy sporting lil'wayne in his signature. The ultimate irony?

woah now. I'm pretty sure he was talking to |-_-|, not me.

Has l-_-l profile always been private? A PC gamer that doesn't know wtf Tomshardware is..thats like a custom builder not knowing what newegg is :| Pro_wrestler

TH isn't a website you know of unless you're upgrading your own stuff and want to be in the know.

will it be just like the HDDVD drive and be only used for moviesstereointegrity

What a letdown for current Xbox 360 ownerspspdseagle

LOL, M$ steals blu ray, I wonder how Sony feels nowKingCotton462

happy someone stated early that ms has to pay sony for blu-ray.

woah now. I'm pretty sure he was talking to |-_-|, not me.

Dreams-Visions

Whoops, sorry cliff:P This is why people need to quote right..

agree. kinda shocking, really. but maybe he's not a Hermit and just buys pre-built PCs?

TH isn't a website you know of unless you're upgrading your own stuff and want to be in the know.

Dreams-Visions

Well he does have a psn ID in his sig, so he could be a primary console gamer but wow, he has 3000 hours logged into guild wars.:o

on another note |-_-| is a funny name..I can't even find the "|" key on my keyboard, so I have to copy/paste it :lol:

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]:lol: I am going to need a more reliable source than some site called tomshardware.ProductNumber49

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20080502PB200.html

Some Chinese newspaper is the source

It's manifactured in China. Makes sense...

I'm just telling him what the source was, because tomhardware wasn't good enough for him. Some PC gamer.

[QUOTE="pspdseagle"]What a letdown for current Xbox 360 ownersDreams-Visions

Because we bought a system without blu ray, whereas if we had of bought a little later, we would get blu ray. It's a bit annoying that we couldn't get it in the first place. It feels like future owners will be spending the same or less and getting more features.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

woah now. I'm pretty sure he was talking to |-_-|, not me.

Pro_wrestler

Whoops, sorry cliff:P This is why people need to quote right..

agree. kinda shocking, really. but maybe he's not a Hermit and just buys pre-built PCs?

TH isn't a website you know of unless you're upgrading your own stuff and want to be in the know.

Dreams-Visions

Well he does have a psn ID in his sig, so he could be a primary console gamer but wow, he has 3000 hours logged into guild wars.:o

on another note |-_-| is a funny name..I can't even find the "|" key on my keyboard, so I have to copy/paste it :lol:

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="pspdseagle"]What a letdown for current Xbox 360 ownersscreamingdoom

Because we bought a system without blu ray, whereas if we had of bought a little later, we would get blu ray. It's a bit annoying that we couldn't get it in the first place. It feels like future owners will be spending the same or less and getting more features.

...and do you remember the production delays on PS3's because of the limited availability of Blu-ray diodes? Imagine if TWO major consoles were trying to vie for the same small supply of Blu-ray diodes! :shock:

would have been a nightmare.

Bottom line here is simple: 360 owners can contiue watching HD moves through their 360s via an add-on that will cost less than any Blu-ray player on the market. If 360 owners like how that sounds, they'll enjoy this add-on, just like they enjoyed the HD-DVD add-on.

Don't want it, don't buy it. But don't assume nobody will. I suspect Microsoft could sell at least a few hundred thousand of these.

It is a little too late in the game for that. If I was MS I would just wait until next generation. RonnieLottinSF

No, they want to slow people down from buying a PS3. If they don't buy a PS3, Microsoft wins a small, but significant battle.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="pspdseagle"]What a letdown for current Xbox 360 ownersscreamingdoom

Because we bought a system without blu ray, whereas if we had of bought a little later, we would get blu ray. It's a bit annoying that we couldn't get it in the first place. It feels like future owners will be spending the same or less and getting more features.

It will probably be an add-on like the HD-DVD player for X360.

if you think about this may not be true, i can't see ms paying sony for blu-ray. i mean really. if ms makes a console with blu-ray there screwing over their consumers. so more than likely they'll have an add-on. but this will be expensive. the hd-dvd add on was 200. how much was it when it launched. i can't remeber if it was more. but the blu-ray add on will be 200-300. rip off. bettter off getting the ps3. its still funny how lems are happy about when they bashed blu-ray on the ps3.jessie5788

Sony pays Microsoft a small royalty to allow for WMA playback on the PSP. Microsoft pays Sony a small royalty for DVD. The list goes on and on.

It's just business. Don't make it deeper than it is.

[QUOTE="screamingdoom"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="pspdseagle"]What a letdown for current Xbox 360 ownersDreams-Visions

Because we bought a system without blu ray, whereas if we had of bought a little later, we would get blu ray. It's a bit annoying that we couldn't get it in the first place. It feels like future owners will be spending the same or less and getting more features.

...and do you remember the production delays on PS3's because of the limited availability of Blu-ray diodes? Imagine if TWO major consoles were trying to vie for the same small supply of Blu-ray diodes! :shock:

would have been a nightmare.

Bottom line here is simple: 360 owners can contiue watching HD moves through their 360s via an add-on that will cost less than any Blu-ray player on the market. If 360 owners like how that sounds, they'll enjoy this add-on, just like they enjoyed the HD-DVD add-on.

Don't want it, don't buy it. But don't assume nobody will. I suspect Microsoft could sell at least a few hundred thousand of these.

[QUOTE="screamingdoom"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="pspdseagle"]What a letdown for current Xbox 360 ownersDreams-Visions

Because we bought a system without blu ray, whereas if we had of bought a little later, we would get blu ray. It's a bit annoying that we couldn't get it in the first place. It feels like future owners will be spending the same or less and getting more features.

...and do you remember the production delays on PS3's because of the limited availability of Blu-ray diodes? Imagine if TWO major consoles were trying to vie for the same small supply of Blu-ray diodes! :shock:

would have been a nightmare.

Bottom line here is simple: 360 owners can contiue watching HD moves through their 360s via an add-on that will cost less than any Blu-ray player on the market. If 360 owners like how that sounds, they'll enjoy this add-on, just like they enjoyed the HD-DVD add-on.

Don't want it, don't buy it. But don't assume nobody will. I suspect Microsoft could sell at least a few hundred thousand of these.

It is a little too late in the game for that. If I was MS I would just wait until next generation. RonnieLottinSF

No, they want to slow people down from buying a PS3. If they don't buy a PS3, Microsoft wins a small, but significant battle.

Agreed....in addition we should see a sub $200 player by the end of the year..If an add on is introduced say for the holiday 08 season it would be less expensive..

At the end of the day..If MS comes on board with BR...EVERYONE in the chain wins...Sony..MS..the studios..retailers and consumers

the only people that don't win are the ignorant fanboys

:lol: I am going to need a more reliable source than some site called tomshardware.l-_-l

:lol: I am going to need a more reliable source than some site called tomshardware.l-_-l

Wait you have links to your PC rig but have never heard of Tomshardware??? Wow, talk about a credibility killer...

if you think about this may not be true, i can't see ms paying sony for blu-ray. i mean really. if ms makes a console with blu-ray there screwing over their consumers. so more than likely they'll have an add-on. but this will be expensive. the hd-dvd add on was 200. how much was it when it launched. i can't remeber if it was more. but the blu-ray add on will be 200-300. rip off. bettter off getting the ps3. its still funny how lems are happy about when they bashed blu-ray on the ps3.jessie5788

[QUOTE="jessie5788"][QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="jessie5788"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="jessie5788"]if this is true then once again ms is copying sony for getting it right in the beginning. its funny seeing all the lems say great one up for ms when every last one of you bashed sony for doing the same thing. this is not like dualshock 3 no one demanded this no devs asked for this. its a waste to even bring this.masiisam

very very false. both ps3 owners and kojima demanded rumble http://gaygamer.net/2006/11/kojima_wants_ps3_rumble_back.html

microsoft said from the start that they would support blueray if it were to win the format war. you know whats funny? i dont recall lemmings making a big deala about sony adding an hardrive to the ps3.

i may of reworded this wrong . i m saying no one is demanding blu-ray on the 360 like the way dualshock was demanded. and hardrive was there from the begining it was never introduced later.

:|....So who's on first base?

..BR has never been on the 360 so how can you measure demand? Sony pulled rumble for the PS3 after it's huge success on the PS2...Of course rumble was missed +120 Mil people used it..

its not hard to see if something is demanded. rumble for example was demanded. devs like kojima wanted rumble back fans actually wanted it back. i'm pretty sure if you went back to 06 threads some people were mad about rumble being gone. blu-ray on the 360 is just as easy to find also. how many times do you see lems make threads about wanting a blu-ray on there system how many devs say that they want a blu-ray player on the 360. next to none.

So you base your facts on demand by how many topics are on it in a game forum?.....Emmm...wow..

Note to self: Patent a muffler bearing and post in all the car enthusiasts sites and i will be a millionaire

That would be sweet. Not only was HD-DVD backed by microsoft, but so was the video compression used. If this comes true, it will go to show that Microsoft is Sony's ****dxmcat

Are you retarded? Hows does that make MS Sony's *****? Sony is not the soul creator of the BD like some of you people seem to think. MS decided to side with HDDVD, big deal. Plus really at the time of release HD had more features anyways, just not the space capacity. Its taken Blu-ray what like 2+ years to get all the features that was availabe on HD-DVD at launch. /sigh fanboys never cease to amaze.

For the record I'm a huge BD fan, just felt to share a few facts for those to close minded to see them for themselves.

BR is over rated. Sure its the future of gaming... But for movies... I think it looks worse then DVD's. Because HD grain in movies looks like crap.

Although I will admit some BR movies do look fantastic... If they don't have special effects over the image.

Truth_Hurts_U

The noise is not from the special effects. Its from the transfer from older movies to HD. Most of your newer movies coming out, especially those shot in digital have very very little noise if any at all. I.E. I am Legend.

:lol: I am going to need a more reliable source than some site called tomshardware.l-_-l

Wow, just wow.