Xbox 360 game going to PC doesn't take its exclusiveness away

I recall Crysis has "Games For Windows".

Was Crysis available for AmigaOS 4.1 PowerPC, Android OS 2.2 X86, BeOS X86, MacOS X PowerPC, MacOS X X86, OS2/Warp X86?

ronvalencia

You do realize that in no way shape or form makes it a Microsoft property right?

question: Why are exclusives so important to you?

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]I'm not talking about dictionaries or online forums. I'm talking about the real world. Please, please don't pretend to me that Wii, PS3, and 360 are called "PCs". They are addressed as consoles by everybody, or damn near 97% majority of the population. Walk into any GameStop or BestBuy and the staff and any shopper will call em as such. PCs are a distinct category from consoles, thus why we have these labels in the first place. Its as universally recognized as anything can get, and your denial and quoting dictionary definitions, which in itself is only as relevant as its practiced by the masses, will not change that.Vandalvideo

So in other words, you just want to bury your head in the sand, or just hide behind the dictionary, despite the fact that it doesn't reflect actual attitudes some people have towards PCs and consoles. Maybe I wasn't clear before, but its the attitudes which is reflected in how we actually have the term console as a seperate device from PC. Does anybody equate PS3, 360, or Wii to "PC gaming"? No. Then it's NOT PC gaming, which means consoles are not the same as playing on a Dell, HP, VIAO, or any home built computer. STOP denying this already.

So in other words, you just want to bury your head in the sand, or just hide behind the dictionary, despite the fact that it doesn't reflect actual attitudes some people have towards PCs and consoles. Maybe I wasn't clear before, but its the attitudes which is reflected in how we actually have the term console as a seperate device from PC. Does anybody equate PS3, 360, or Wii to "PC gaming"? No. Then it's NOT PC gaming, which means consoles are not the same as playing on a Dell, HP, VIAO, or any home built computer. STOP denying this already.AdobeArtist

1)Sorry i strongly disagree and call this atitude complete lemming talk.

2)If it was "Exclusive" than how else would have i finished Gears of War, Some of Halos, Mass Effect ...etc ?? You know what these are ? These are the best selling and the best "Exclusives" available on the 360.

3)Now coming to that why would i wanna waste my 400$ getting a console which has a tendancy to break down a lot, doesnt even offer anything "Next-Gen" close to its competitors like the Play Station 3 and above all i already can experience its best games in god like graphics with a much better gameplay and with alot of free modes ?

Now come to 360s main competitor the Play Station 3.

1)Its best exclusives such as God of War, Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid 4 (The only AAAAe in this generations gaming history !), Uncharted series, Resistance Series, inFamous series, Little Big planet, Killzone series ...... Are only available on the Play Station 3.Keep in mind that not only on the Play Station 3 but on all gaming platforms, thats atleast 200+ hours of GROUND BREAKING gaming that i should not miss out on as a gamer.

2)Offers such ground breaking Entertainment such as Movies in pure crisp 1080p or absolutely true HD quality through blu ray player, which the 360 unfortunately can not offer(i know it has the 1080p movie download thing, which according to me is a scam as it costs you and doesnt even give you the quality of Blu Ray).

3)Now on top of all this as a multiplayer i simply like to go online invite my friends and have the actionin game but not in freaking menus. Does PS3 offer me that lag free for a good price ? Yes it does, infact its free, it handles more players than the 360 can dream of and its completely lag free. Does 360 offer me that experience ? Not even close, apart from 360s lagfest p2p network sharing, its actually costs you $$s ! Thats my friends is a complete rip off.

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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Doesn't change my opinion at all... refer to this post instead to make things clearer for you. [QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

All I'm saying is...

Crysis was NEVER considered a Microsoft exclusive, so how is it if it came out on 360 & PC that it's suddenly a Microsoft exclusive?

Shenanigans.

ronvalencia

I recall Crysis has "Games For Windows".

Was Crysis available for AmigaOS 4.1 PowerPC, Android OS 2.2 X86, BeOS X86, MacOS X PowerPC, MacOS X X86, OS2/Warp X86?

Actaully, the game becomes even more exclusive when it gets released on the PC. :O

I don't believe this.

Exclusive= on one platform
Not exclusive= more than one platform

I mean, really?

It seems only in this forum, that if an Xbox 360 game is released on PC, it is no longer exclusive. Except that is because last I checked Windows is a Microsoft platform along with Xbox 360. And the game is not getting released on PS3 or Wii which are their competitors. PC is not a competitor to Xbox. The OS's are owned by the same company and Microsooft is willingly letting developers release on both.

It's the same as saying a game that was on Wii gets released on DS is no longer an exclusive. It's a stupid argument.

DumbDubya

how old are you? What's the highest education level you have reached? just curious

It seems only in this forum, that if an Xbox 360 game is released on PC, it is no longer exclusive. Except that is because last I checked Windows is a Microsoft platform along with Xbox 360. And the game is not getting released on PS3 or Wii which are their competitors. PC is not a competitor to Xbox. The OS's are owned by the same company and Microsooft is willingly letting developers release on both.

It's the same as saying a game that was on Wii gets released on DS is no longer an exclusive. It's a stupid argument.

DumbDubya

Then you have poor understanding of what exclusivity stands for. In case you didn't know, exclusivity is something like bragging rights, to say "I can play this game because it's only on a platform which i have, and you don't have that platform, so you can't play it."

That basis doesn't really work when the game is on another platform which people have access to, especially a pc. Everyone has a pc. The bigger question is whether their pc is powerful enough to play games. But we give people the benefit of doubt.

So let's say you're a lemming because you primarily game on 360, while i'm a cow for primarily gaming on the ps3. Any game which is exclusive only to the 360 is at a cow's disadvantage yes? because he won't be able to play it. But if you come to me and say "Oh yeah!! I get to play mass effect and you don't!", my response could be just "Uh...I just finished the game on my pc last week."

You get my point? It isn't about whether it's a Microsoft exclusive or not. It's whether the defined exclusivity denies rival fanboys the opportunity to play the game or not.

Xbox 360 game going to PC doesn't mean you can play it on PS3.

There, title is fixed and this craziness can stop.

Xbox 360 game going to PC doesn't mean you can play it on PS3.

There, title is fixed and this craziness can stop.

JonSnow777

I don't think anybody ever did make points in disagreement with your statement. The question was whether the term 'exclusive' was appropriate, in which the answer is NO. Exclusivity is platform specific. Xbox exclusive, ps3 exclusive, pc exclusive etc.

There's no such thing as a Microsoft exclusive which accounts for exclusivity on both the 360 and pc, because even if you do invent that term, many cows will be able to play it too, so the objective is moot.

If a game is on any other platform than jsut the 360, it's not a 360 exclusive. Simple as that.

Xbox 360 game going to PC doesn't mean you can play it on PS3.

There, title is fixed and this craziness can stop.

JonSnow777

Irrelevant. The point is that an EXCLUSIVE ceases to be exclusive if it's on multiple platforms. That's hugely relevant for someone who is a fanboy. Let's say you are a diehard Sony fan. You own a Sony HDTV, you have a PS3, you have a PSP and you have a VAIO Laptop. The only games you cannot play are games which are *actual* 360 exclusives, if a game is released on PC, you can play it on your Sony VAIO.

For someone who believes that Sony makes superior hardware and doesn't want to mess with what they believe to be a badly designed Xbox 360, that point is salient. And theres' nothing you can do to argue that point away by saying "but you can't play it on your PS3"... nope, they can just play it on their other Sony system.

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This arguing so that 360 fanboys can weasel a better position in System Wars is idiotic. Not only do you have to redefine the English dictionary, pretend the PC doesn't exist (for a variety of reasons, including that it beats you in every single category you can debate) and ignore the Wii, but you also have to play games to make the PS3 cease to be a competitor. What's the point? The 360 has been a solid platform, why bull**** to make it something it's not?

[QUOTE="JonSnow777"]

Xbox 360 game going to PC doesn't mean you can play it on PS3.

There, title is fixed and this craziness can stop.

subrosian

Irrelevant. The point is that an EXCLUSIVE ceases to be exclusive if it's on multiple platforms. That's hugely relevant for someone who is a fanboy. Let's say you are a diehard Sony fan. You own a Sony HDTV, you have a PS3, you have a PSP and you have a VAIO Laptop. The only games you cannot play are games which are *actual* 360 exclusives, if a game is released on PC, you can play it on your Sony VAIO.

For someone who believes that Sony makes superior hardware and doesn't want to mess with what they believe to be a badly designed Xbox 360, that point is salient. And theres' nothing you can do to argue that point away by saying "but you can't play it on your PS3"... nope, they can just play it on their other Sony system.

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This arguing so that 360 fanboys can weasel a better position in System Wars is idiotic. Not only do you have to redefine the English dictionary, pretend the PC doesn't exist (for a variety of reasons, including that it beats you in every single category you can debate) and ignore the Wii, but you also have to play games to make the PS3 cease to be a competitor. What's the point? The 360 has been a solid platform, why bull**** to make it something it's not?

Okay, but why is being a fanboy relevant to anything else in the universe?

The word exclusive can change depending on the way it is used.

You can say that a rare disease is exclusive to dogs, or you can widen it and say a certain disease is exclusive to a certain 1,000 species of plants.

You're just creating a group with the context the word is used in.

You can make a group out of anything then say that group has exclusive content.

The word exclusive can change depending on the way it is used.

Hakkai007

In SW, the word "exclusive" only has one meaning: to be available for one and only one platform.

Sure,then I guess Fable 3,Gears of War,Mass Effect 1 & 2 among many others are PC exclusives.Arach666

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

The word exclusive can change depending on the way it is used.

Silverbond

In SW, the word "exclusive" only has one meaning: to be available for one and only one platform.

That is your subjective definition which is not objective.

Others see it differently.

So many pages of people arguing over this.

As lemming general as voted by my fellow system wars peers all that has to be said has all ready been said...yes it does, it totally does.

Okay, but why is being a fanboy relevant to anything else in the universe?

Hakkai007

Xbox 360 fanboys attempt to subvert PC gaming in order to make some magical argument for their console that doesn't hold up. PC gamers aren't friends with 360 gamers, they aren't part of "Team MIcrosoft", if anything, they're livid that the 360 has resulted in so many PC franchises being watered-down, trashed and otherwise compromised. I don't particularly care for ANY of the fanboys, but you have to be realistic here: 360 fans don't get to claim PC gaming.

Trust me, PC gamers were around long before the Xbox, and they'll be around long after.

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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

Irrelevant. The point is that an EXCLUSIVE ceases to be exclusive if it's on multiple platforms. That's hugely relevant for someone who is a fanboy. Let's say you are a diehard Sony fan. You own a Sony HDTV, you have a PS3, you have a PSP and you have a VAIO Laptop. The only games you cannot play are games which are *actual* 360 exclusives, if a game is released on PC, you can play it on your Sony VAIO.

For someone who believes that Sony makes superior hardware and doesn't want to mess with what they believe to be a badly designed Xbox 360, that point is salient. And theres' nothing you can do to argue that point away by saying "but you can't play it on your PS3"... nope, they can just play it on their other Sony system.

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This arguing so that 360 fanboys can weasel a better position in System Wars is idiotic. Not only do you have to redefine the English dictionary, pretend the PC doesn't exist (for a variety of reasons, including that it beats you in every single category you can debate) and ignore the Wii, but you also have to play games to make the PS3 cease to be a competitor. What's the point? The 360 has been a solid platform, why bull**** to make it something it's not?

subrosian

Okay, but why is being a fanboy relevant to anything else in the universe?

Xbox 360 fanboys attempt to subvert PC gaming in order to make some magical argument for their console that doesn't hold up. PC gamers aren't friends with 360 gamers, they aren't part of "Team MIcrosoft", if anything, they're livid that the 360 has resulted in so many PC franchises being watered-down, trashed and otherwise compromised. I don't particularly care for ANY of the fanboys, but you have to be realistic here: 360 fans don't get to claim PC gaming.

Trust me, PC gamers were around long before the Xbox, and they'll be around long after.

I'm not a 360 fanboy, but I have one. And I think it's fun enough that it really doesn't need anybody arguing for it. Same with Wii and PC.

So, thank you fanboys, but your job is done here.

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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

The word exclusive can change depending on the way it is used.

Hakkai007

In SW, the word "exclusive" only has one meaning: to be available for one and only one platform.

That is your subjective definition which is not objective.

It's not subjective at all.

It is the only way to use the term "exclusive" here in SW.

Trust me, PC gamers were around long before the Xbox, and they'll be around long after.subrosian

[QUOTE="subrosian"]Trust me, PC gamers were around long before the Xbox, and they'll be around long after.xsubtownerx

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="subrosian"]Trust me, PC gamers were around long before the Xbox, and they'll be around long after.millerlight89