Xbox 360 only has 2 AAA Exclusives since launch.

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#151 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Poop_Slash"]

Pefect Dark Zero...

Don't know if that even counts as AAA..... Chirst.

Forza MotorSport 2

xV1CTORx

Thats according to gamespot. I, like most people use gamerankings (its more accurate since it averages evreything out)

And according to gamerankings, 360's AAA games are:

Call of Duty 2 (also on PC)

Castlevania: symphony of the Night (downloadable game, also on PS Store)

Gears of War (coming to PC, butnot on it yet)

Guitar Hero II (also on many other consoles)

Oblivion (Also on PS3)

G.R.A.W (Exclusivity debated by some)

Forza 2 has a score of 89.9% so its a notable mention. (and deserves it IMO)

he's talking about exclusives. forza 2 counts as 90% cause gamerankings rounds off their numbers.

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#152 AntiType
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[QUOTE="AntiType"]How different does a game have to be in order to be considered unique from the versions being available on different platforms?DaAznSaN

I believe if the base game is the same, then it should not be considered a new game. And when I say base game, I mean if I was to play the first levels of both games and they're the same levels, they're the same base game.

So where does that leave REmake?
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#153 DaAznSaN
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[QUOTE="DaAznSaN"]

[QUOTE="AntiType"]How different does a game have to be in order to be considered unique from the versions being available on different platforms?AntiType

I believe if the base game is the same, then it should not be considered a new game. And when I say base game, I mean if I was to play the first levels of both games and they're the same levels, they're the same base game.

So where does that leave REmake?

Never played REmake so no clue. If it's the same as the PS1 version, as in levels and everything, but with just new graphics, then yes, I would consider it the same game.

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#154 OldParr
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[QUOTE="OldParr"]but u guys realize that gaming dev and gaming divisons look at the pc as a different market right???? SaintBlaze

Well nintendo has stated the wii is aimed at a different audience and not really in competition with the 360 and ps3. It's still a system no matter what. Same can apply to the pc. It may be seen as a different market but you can still play games on it.

ok cool but m$ gaming divison knows that and to increase revenue they will release a game on their OS and on their console.well the game cant only be play on a PC no Mac and a 360

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#155 OldParr
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i meant can
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#156 Chaos_HL21
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I did but its still BASICLY THE SAME GAME

whatever man I really dont want to fight over this(I bet you dont either) it been done a million times but IMO it shouldnt be on the list because there is a GRAW on other systems end of story Im donesparkypants

If they are basicly the same game then NGS is a carbon copy of NGB. GRAW is the same in name only. If NGS was a in first person was given to another team to make, and have a massive differnt in score (like AAA compared to just A with GRAW), then it would be exlusive, it doesn't so it not.

Thats according to gamespot. I, like most people use gamerankings (its more accurate since it averages evreything out)

And according to gamerankings, 360's AAA games are:

Call of Duty 2 (also on PC)

Castlevania: symphony of the Night (downloadable game, also on PS Store)

Gears of War (coming to PC, butnot on it yet)

Guitar Hero II (also on many other consoles)

Oblivion (Also on PS3)

G.R.A.W (Exclusivity debated by some)

Forza 2 has a score of 89.9% so its a notable mention. (and deserves it IMO)

xV1CTORx

Um, last time I checked this is Gamespot, not gameranking. We use Gamespot rankings, and we are talking about exclusives.

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#157 xV1CTORx
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[QUOTE="xV1CTORx"][QUOTE="Poop_Slash"]

Pefect Dark Zero...

Don't know if that even counts as AAA..... Chirst.

Forza MotorSport 2

CaseyWegner

Thats according to gamespot. I, like most people use gamerankings (its more accurate since it averages evreything out)

And according to gamerankings, 360's AAA games are:

Call of Duty 2 (also on PC)

Castlevania: symphony of the Night (downloadable game, also on PS Store)

Gears of War (coming to PC, butnot on it yet)

Guitar Hero II (also on many other consoles)

Oblivion (Also on PS3)

G.R.A.W (Exclusivity debated by some)

Forza 2 has a score of 89.9% so its a notable mention. (and deserves it IMO)

he's talking about exclusives. forza 2 counts as 90% cause gamerankings rounds off their numbers.

not really. The roundoff was made (they do it to the nearest tenth) and it ended up at 89.9.

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#158 xV1CTORx
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Thats according to gamespot. I, like most people use gamerankings (its more accurate since it averages evreything out)

And according to gamerankings, 360's AAA games are:

Call of Duty 2 (also on PC)

Castlevania: symphony of the Night (downloadable game, also on PS Store)

Gears of War (coming to PC, butnot on it yet)

Guitar Hero II (also on many other consoles)

Oblivion (Also on PS3)

G.R.A.W (Exclusivity debated by some)

Forza 2 has a score of 89.9% so its a notable mention. (and deserves it IMO)

xV1CTORx

Um, last time I checked this is Gamespot, not gameranking. We use Gamespot rankings, and we are talking about exclusives.

Chaos_HL21

so? gamerankings accuracy > Gamespots accuracy

and if its exclusives only then the only possible one in reality is G.R.A.W (since some say its exclusive)

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#159 CaseyWegner
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not really. The roundoff was made (they do it to the nearest tenth) and it ended up at 89.9.

xV1CTORx

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932731.asp

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#160 SaintBlaze
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="sparkypants"]I did but its still BASICLY THE SAME GAME

whatever man I really dont want to fight over this(I bet you dont either) it been done a million times but IMO it shouldnt be on the list because there is a GRAW on other systems end of story Im donexV1CTORx

If they are basicly the same game then NGS is a carbon copy of NGB. GRAW is the same in name only. If NGS was a in first person was given to another team to make, and have a massive differnt in score (like AAA compared to just A with GRAW), then it would be exlusive, it doesn't so it not.

Thats according to gamespot. I, like most people use gamerankings (its more accurate since it averages evreything out)

And according to gamerankings, 360's AAA games are:

Call of Duty 2 (also on PC)

Castlevania: symphony of the Night (downloadable game, also on PS Store)

Gears of War (coming to PC, butnot on it yet)

Guitar Hero II (also on many other consoles)

Oblivion (Also on PS3)

G.R.A.W (Exclusivity debated by some)

Forza 2 has a score of 89.9% so its a notable mention. (and deserves it IMO)

xV1CTORx

Um, last time I checked this is Gamespot, not gameranking. We use Gamespot rankings, and we are talking about exclusives.

so? gamerankings accuracy > Gamespots accuracy

We use Gamespot's reviews here in system wars. Get used to it. You're not the firts "rebel" to use gamerankings though over gamespot. :P

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#161 Chaos_HL21
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so? gamerankings accuracy > Gamespots accuracyxV1CTORx

On the GAMESPOT forums the GAMESPOT reviews have more pull than the ones at other sites, because this is the GAMESPOT forums.

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#163 xV1CTORx
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[QUOTE="xV1CTORx"]

not really. The roundoff was made (they do it to the nearest tenth) and it ended up at 89.9.

CaseyWegner

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932731.asp

ohh, ok. I was looking at the game description overall:

"Microsoft Game Studios has brought Forza Motorsport 2 to the Xbox 360 and 58 sites and magazines have reviewed it already.After being released on 5/29 publications such as TeamXbox, IGN, 1UP and GameSpot have reviewed the game, coming to an average editoral review ratio of 89.9%.Forza Motorsport 2 is now ranked 190th on the all time list and 7th on the Xbox 360 top game list"

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#164 xV1CTORx
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[QUOTE="xV1CTORx"]so? gamerankings accuracy > Gamespots accuracyChaos_HL21

On the GAMESPOT forums the GAMESPOT reviews have more pull than the ones at other sites, because this is the GAMESPOT forums.

i disagree. Gamerankings > Gamespot and you cant deny it. (in game averages)

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#166 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="xV1CTORx"]so? gamerankings accuracy > Gamespots accuracyxV1CTORx

On the GAMESPOT forums the GAMESPOT reviews have more pull than the ones at other sites, because this is the GAMESPOT forums.

i disagree. Gamerankings > Gamespot and you cant deny it.

in order to avoid and endless opinion vs. opinion debate over game quality, a standard was chosen and gamespot was it.

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#167 DoctorBunny
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="xV1CTORx"]so? gamerankings accuracy > Gamespots accuracyxV1CTORx

On the GAMESPOT forums the GAMESPOT reviews have more pull than the ones at other sites, because this is the GAMESPOT forums.

i disagree. Gamerankings > Gamespot and you cant deny it.

Doesn't matter if you agree or not. Here on gamespot forums, Gamespot reviews are what matter

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#168 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="xV1CTORx"]so? gamerankings accuracy > Gamespots accuracyxV1CTORx

On the GAMESPOT forums the GAMESPOT reviews have more pull than the ones at other sites, because this is the GAMESPOT forums.

i disagree. Gamerankings > Gamespot and you cant deny it. (in game averages)

Here is a place where Gameranking > Gamespot. But Here Gamespot >Gamerankings

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#169 coldkill19
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Listen, this is my point of view. If it's seen on other consoles when you look to the right in the summary or whatever then it's multiplat. If it's not then it's exclusive/
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#170 rexoverbey
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Well lets see 360 has been almost out two years this November.

3 AAA exclusive titles.

Wii/PS3 have been out 1 year this fall.

Wii 1 AAA exclusive

PS3 0 AAA exclusive

Seems to me 360 is producing AAA exclusives almost 2 times faster than Wii and PS3 infinately faster. So at the current rate at 2 years Wii will have 2 and PS3 will have 0 by fanboy logic.

That's not even counting the other AAA titles that aren't exclusive. R6, Oblvion, Gears. Plus I wouldn't be bragging too much sheep/cows. Your only other AAA titles are both ports (RE4 Wii and Ninja Gaiden PS3).

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#171 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="Poop_Slash"]

Pefect Dark Zero...

Don't know if that even counts as AAA..... Chirst.

Forza MotorSport 2

Blinblingthing

PDZ AAA........ WOW

I loved Perfect Dark Zero. :)

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#172 jg4xchamp
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GRAW. same name different game on 360. the 360 GRAW is a whole different game. so thats 3.

also Gears of War cant be found on PS3 or Wii. how is that a selling point for Cows or Sheep. Hermits yeah they can rub it in lemmings faces all they want.
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#173 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="xV1CTORx"]so? gamerankings accuracy > Gamespots accuracyxV1CTORx

On the GAMESPOT forums the GAMESPOT reviews have more pull than the ones at other sites, because this is the GAMESPOT forums.

i disagree. Gamerankings > Gamespot and you cant deny it. (in game averages)

gamerankings takes scores from yahoo games.

metacritic>>>>>>>>>>>gamerankings.
and we have a standard here and thats gamespot get over it.

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#174 Kevondadon
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That means the Xbox 360 has "no games" except maybe three.

XenogearsMaster

DO YOU LOOK AT THE SHELVES IN THE GAME STORE? hOW CAN YOU ps3 FANS BE SO BLIND TO WHAT THE 360 OFFERS? I see the PS3 games when I go in a store. I look at the artwork on the case and I play the demos in the store. I don't hate the Ps3 cause I had a PS2 and understand what Sony can do. But to act like 360 is total garbage and not recognize what it is doing in this country is plain dumb. Cow, Fanboy, none of those words describe you. you are a plain Hater. A slurping Hater at that.

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#175 Diablo2343
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[QUOTE="Poop_Slash"]

Hey if it's called Graw on PC, PS2, Xbox and god knows what else

It's not Exclusive.

CaseyWegner

not...the...same...game. :|

LOL

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]and graw. we've been over this. :|marklarmer

its funny how cows always concentrate on putting down 360 AAAs rather than counting their pathetic few.

hey man u can say that exact same thing about lemming, too--lemmings put down the PS3 a ton more than cows put down the 360--its a fact

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#177 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]and graw. we've been over this. :|biggamerhk

its funny how cows always concentrate on putting down 360 AAAs rather than counting their pathetic few.

hey man u can say that exact same thing about lemming, too--lemmings put down the PS3 a ton more than cows put down the 360--its a fact

well, to be honest, isn't it easier to bash the system with zero AAAEs than it is to bash the one with three? especially considering all the hype behind the ps3 before it launched.

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#178 Wanderer5
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Pefect Dark Zero...

Don't know if that even counts as AAA..... Chirst.

Poop_Slash

Well some people like it. It their opinion. It AAA in SW whether you like it or not.

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#179 x_boyfriend
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oh and the PC hasnt had a single AAAE so :Psupermechakirby

Are you that ill-informed?

World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade

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#180 x_boyfriend
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[QUOTE="xV1CTORx"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="xV1CTORx"]so? gamerankings accuracy > Gamespots accuracyjg4xchamp

On the GAMESPOT forums the GAMESPOT reviews have more pull than the ones at other sites, because this is the GAMESPOT forums.

i disagree. Gamerankings > Gamespot and you cant deny it. (in game averages)

gamerankings takes scores from yahoo games.

metacritic>>>>>>>>>>>gamerankings.
and we have a standard here and thats gamespot get over it.

No use. Sounds like a noob.

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#181 WhySoCry
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[QUOTE="supermechakirby"]oh and the PC hasnt had a single AAAE so :Px_boyfriend

Are you that ill-informed?

World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade

Galactic Civilizations 2: Dark Avatar

And that's just this year too XD

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#182 gamergeekgeek
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[QUOTE="biggamerhk"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]and graw. we've been over this. :|CaseyWegner

its funny how cows always concentrate on putting down 360 AAAs rather than counting their pathetic few.

hey man u can say that exact same thing about lemming, too--lemmings put down the PS3 a ton more than cows put down the 360--its a fact

well, to be honest, isn't it easier to bash the system with zero AAAEs than it is to bash the one with three? especially considering all the hype behind the ps3 before it launched.

yep
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#183 kman3002
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And PS3 and Wii only have one.Your point?

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caseys a chick right?
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if we had the new rating system at 360 launch , we would had 3 AAA at launch . THAT IS PWNAGE .

(PGR3 , CoD2 , PDZ )

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and graw. we've been over this. :|CaseyWegner
isn't graw the same on PC with just some minor tweaks like NGS?
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caseys a chick right?---OkeyDokey---

it's one of the greatest myth in sw

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]and graw. we've been over this. :|Ragashahs
isn't graw the same on PC with just some minor tweaks like NGS?

no :|

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#189 Carmilla31
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[QUOTE="Poop_Slash"]

Hey if it's called Graw on PC, PS2, Xbox and god knows what else

It's not Exclusive.

CaseyWegner

not...the...same...game. :|

What would give people the idea that its the same game? I wonder...     Its NOT exclusive to the 360.
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#190 Prid3r
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Poop_Slash"]

Hey if it's called Graw on PC, PS2, Xbox and god knows what else

It's not Exclusive.

Carmilla31

not...the...same...game. :|

What would give people the idea that its the same game? I wonder...     Its NOT exclusive to the 360.

god , stupidity have hit new lows there days :roll: .

FPS vs TPS . even mods say so , so STFU .

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#191 gamergeekgeek
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Poop_Slash"]

Hey if it's called Graw on PC, PS2, Xbox and god knows what else

It's not Exclusive.

Carmilla31

not...the...same...game. :|

What would give people the idea that its the same game? I wonder... Its NOT exclusive to the 360.

you should do some more research before embarrassing yourself

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#193 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Poop_Slash"]

Hey if it's called Graw on PC, PS2, Xbox and god knows what else

It's not Exclusive.

Carmilla31

not...the...same...game. :|

What would give people the idea that its the same game? I wonder...

I'm not wondering about that. I'm wondering how you'll ever be able to save face after making such an ignorant post. Tell me, did the 20+ posts explaining this go over your head, or did you intentionally ignore them?:|

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#194 swamprat_basic
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But it does have a GOTY that cannot be played anywhere else.
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#195 Carmilla31
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[QUOTE="Carmilla31"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Poop_Slash"]

Hey if it's called Graw on PC, PS2, Xbox and god knows what else

It's not Exclusive.

gamergeekgeek

not...the...same...game. :|

What would give people the idea that its the same game? I wonder... Its NOT exclusive to the 360.

you should do some more research before embarrassing yourself

GRAW is not exclusive since its on four different platforms. The 360 version has different, aka exlusive content. Does that also make RE1 on the GC and Ninja Gaiden Sigma exlcuive since they have different, aka exclusive content?
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#196 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Poop_Slash"]

Hey if it's called Graw on PC, PS2, Xbox and god knows what else

It's not Exclusive.

Carmilla31

not...the...same...game. :|

What would give people the idea that its the same game? I wonder... Its NOT exclusive to the 360.

you should do some more research before embarrassing yourself

GRAW is not exclusive since its on four different platforms. The 360 version has different, aka exlusive content. Does that also make RE1 on the GC and Ninja Gaiden Sigma exlcuive since they have different, aka exclusive content?

...My theory that reading comprehension skills in this country is low gains further proof

The PC and 360 versions of GRAW do not have;

1) The same developers

2) The same viewpoint

3) The same gameplay mechanics

4) The same levels

5) The same plot

6) The same characters

You cannot find ANY of the things mentioned above in both variants. Now, onto Sigma.

Sigma differentiates itself from its Black counterpart with the following;

1) A few extra missions with Rachel

2) Suped-up graphics

The VAST MAJORITY of Sigma's content can be found on Black.

That's it.

Now, are we clear on why the 'if you count GRAW, we can count Sigma!!!1' rebutal can NOT work? And even if you want to disagree with me and claim that all versions of GRAW are identical, take a look at the reviews pal. Gamespot themselves repeatedly state otherwise.

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#197 squallff8_fan
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]and graw. we've been over this. :|marklarmer

its funny how cows always concentrate on putting down 360 AAAs rather than counting their pathetic few.

And u act like 3 AAA exclusives for a system almost out 2 years is an amazing task, lol. The ps3 should already have 1 AAA Exclusive which is Ninja Gaiden Sigma but guess the rules here are in xbox 360's favor. It doesnt matter, because everyone knows Resistance Fall of Man shouldve been AAA, and if u say no, then tell me how does PDZ get an AAA and RFOM is a much better all around game, and even gamerankings proves that RFOM is a better game. Anywayz look for heavenly sword and uncharted drakes fortune to be the first 2 ps3 exclusive AAA titles.

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#198 lettuceman44
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I dislike the 360(im a hermit/sheep), but I even say that Graw is an exclusive. It is nothing like the pc version, it is not the same game, just the same name. everything is totally different.
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#199 kman3002
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[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]and graw. we've been over this. :|squallff8_fan

its funny how cows always concentrate on putting down 360 AAAs rather than counting their pathetic few.

And u act like 3 AAA exclusives for a system almost out 2 years is an amazing task, lol. The ps3 should already have 1 AAA Exclusive which is Ninja Gaiden Sigma but guess the rules here are in xbox 360's favor. It doesnt matter, because everyone knows Resistance Fall of Man shouldve been AAA, and if u say no, then tell me how does PDZ get an AAA and RFOM is a much better all around game, and even gamerankings proves that RFOM is a better game. Anywayz look for heavenly sword and uncharted drakes fortune to be the first 2 ps3 exclusive AAA titles.

Just like how Motorstorm and Lair were going to be the first two AAA titles?

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#200 dylan9999
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[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]and graw. we've been over this. :|squallff8_fan

its funny how cows always concentrate on putting down 360 AAAs rather than counting their pathetic few.

And u act like 3 AAA exclusives for a system almost out 2 years is an amazing task, lol. The ps3 should already have 1 AAA Exclusive which is Ninja Gaiden Sigma but guess the rules here are in xbox 360's favor. It doesnt matter, because everyone knows Resistance Fall of Man shouldve been AAA, and if u say no, then tell me how does PDZ get an AAA and RFOM is a much better all around game, and even gamerankings proves that RFOM is a better game. Anywayz look for heavenly sword and uncharted drakes fortune to be the first 2 ps3 exclusive AAA titles.

I agree with you. the 360 has been out longer than the ps3 and the wii, giving it more time to come up with AAA exclusives this cannot bedenied.