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[QUOTE="mazdaspeed-rx8"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"][QUOTE="mazdaspeed-rx8"][QUOTE="Tom_Brady860"]yep and they sure do not know anythign about buying maps that should be free uh?Who buys UT on a console, cows with out a PC thats who
and you can simply download the maps on the 360, but you guys wouldnt know much about downloading anyways....
Snugenz
Who said you would have to pay for them ?
See you're stretching.
Most all of F.E.A.R.S maps are free.
oh please, stop wtih the bull. you and i know since we both own 360's that we are going to be charged for maps. stop with the white fence dream world you are living in. as popular UT is going to be over FEAR, you wouldnt think MS wouldnt charge for the maps like they did for GEOW?MS isnt publishing UT3 you silly tit, so they have no say whatsoever about whether UT3 maps will be free or not :roll:
Anything going onto the Marketplace has to be approved by MS.
Why do you think the Demo for Stranglehold started the "certification process" on July19th and thedemo didn't come out for almost 3 weeks.
Lol, you expect that Microsoft would allow someone to put something on THEIR marketplace without them approving it? They have to approve EVERYTHING, if a demo had a glitch that could steal your credit card information, and someone just HAPPENED to hack into their 360 and do this, you could make millions.
It's not likely, but MS has to THOROUGHLY test anything going onto the marketplace (other then picture packs or that type of thing) to make sure that there isn't serious bugs that could compromise XBL.
Wow, wooooooooooow.
LOL, Lemming ownage indeed.
This is bad for MS considering there's6-7 more years to go until this generation ends.
TLHBO! "Bu bu bu bu but teh compression :cry:" :lol:
Anything going onto the Marketplace has to be approved by MS.Why do you think the Demo for Stranglehold started the "certification process" on July19th and thedemo didn't come out for almost 3 weeks.
Lol, you expect that Microsoft would allow someone to put something on THEIR marketplace without them approving it? They have to approve EVERYTHING, if a demo had a glitch that could steal your credit card information, and someone just HAPPENED to hack into their 360 and do this, you could make millions.
It's not likely, but MS has to THOROUGHLY test anything going onto the marketplace (other then picture packs or that type of thing) to make sure that there isn't serious bugs that could compromise XBL.
Wow, wooooooooooow.
Big_Red_Button
MS 'certification process' =/= cost money, there had been stuff on live for free, and there had been stuff on the PSN that cost money. MS isn't publishing UT3, so don't have any call on the price.
[QUOTE="Klash47"]epic is really showing sony some love. they might eventually jump ship for good. because it seems like they've got the ps3 hardware all figuered out. more maps and mods and k/m support for the ps3 version FTW-Ninja_Dog-
Have fun with your inferior console version !
PC FTW !
...
What are your PC specs?
meh forget about it you'll lie anyway.
COWS AND LEMS NEED TO STOP HIDING BEHIND THE PC WHEN THEY SEE FIT!
[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"][QUOTE="Klash47"]epic is really showing sony some love. they might eventually jump ship for good. because it seems like they've got the ps3 hardware all figuered out. more maps and mods and k/m support for the ps3 version FTWno_submission
Have fun with your inferior console version !
PC FTW !
...
What are you PC specs?
meh forget about you lie anyway.
COWS AND LEMS NEED TO STOP HIDING BEHIND THE PC WHEN THEY SEE FIT!
yes. it really is weaksauce. 95% of the people here don't have a PC that can even run The Sims at max res, much less a legit 2007 relese. :|
[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="mazdaspeed-rx8"][QUOTE="mazdaspeed-rx8"][QUOTE="Tom_Brady860"]yep and they sure do not know anythign about buying maps that should be free uh?oh please, stop wtih the bull. you and i know since we both own 360's that we are going to be charged for maps. stop with the white fence dream world you are living in. as popular UT is going to be over FEAR, you wouldnt think MS wouldnt charge for the maps like they did for GEOW?Who buys UT on a console, cows with out a PC thats who
and you can simply download the maps on the 360, but you guys wouldnt know much about downloading anyways....
Big_Red_Button
MS isnt publishing UT3 you silly tit, so they have no say whatsoever about whether UT3 maps will be free or not :roll:
Anything going onto the Marketplace has to be approved by MS.
Why do you think the Demo for Stranglehold started the "certification process" on July19th and thedemo didn't come out for almost 3 weeks.
Lol, you expect that Microsoft would allow someone to put something on THEIR marketplace without them approving it? They have to approve EVERYTHING, if a demo had a glitch that could steal your credit card information, and someone just HAPPENED to hack into their 360 and do this, you could make millions.
It's not likely, but MS has to THOROUGHLY test anything going onto the marketplace (other then picture packs or that type of thing) to make sure that there isn't serious bugs that could compromise XBL.
Wow, wooooooooooow.
Your just as silly as him, just because they have to APPROVE IT, doesnt mean they have any say on whether EPIC CHARGES for it, remember its not GeoW and MS isnt publishing UT3 !!
Are ya getting me or do i need to space out my words a bit more or talk in baby english ??
M$ played it very safe. Lemmings aren't complaining to much, they paid $200 less for a system with equal power to the PS3.Wasdie
Exept the fact that Blu-Ray IS NEEDED!!!
[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]Anything going onto the Marketplace has to be approved by MS.Why do you think the Demo for Stranglehold started the "certification process" on July19th and thedemo didn't come out for almost 3 weeks.
Lol, you expect that Microsoft would allow someone to put something on THEIR marketplace without them approving it? They have to approve EVERYTHING, if a demo had a glitch that could steal your credit card information, and someone just HAPPENED to hack into their 360 and do this, you could make millions.
It's not likely, but MS has to THOROUGHLY test anything going onto the marketplace (other then picture packs or that type of thing) to make sure that there isn't serious bugs that could compromise XBL.
Wow, wooooooooooow.
Chaos_HL21
MS 'certification process' =/= cost money, there had been stuff on live for free, and there had been stuff on the PSN that cost money. MS isn't publishing UT3, so don't have any call on the price.
1) I never said it had an effect on the PRICE, but I was quoting someone who said that MS had nothing at all to do with the content released.
2) The new maps for Gears of War were supposed to be free, but then MS stepped in and "polightly suggested" to Epic that people should pay for them.
Don't believe me? I've got a link.
http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/microsoftrejectsfreegearofwarmaps.shtml
I've got another few too, in case you say "omgz no credible sorse!11"
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2007/04/10/microsoft_says_no_to_free_xbox_live_content.html
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/04/09/microsoft-and-epic-disagree-over-gears-of-war-content-and-the-argument-is-now-pubilc
http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/04/09/microsoft-wont-let-new-gow-maps-be-free/
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17516&view=previous&sid=ceb00b0163ff621ac2351291f5bf5867
If they did it to Epic for Gears, why the hell not for UT3?
Mmmk pumpkin?
I say when and if it happens then the cows can claim ownage.
But as it stands now. Its only a maybe.
So I want every cow here to promise not to mention this again until it is a fact.
Because at this point it is far from fact and only speculation.If this continues some of the less then knowledable cows will take this as fact. When it clearly is not.
Can we agree on this ?
[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]Anything going onto the Marketplace has to be approved by MS.Why do you think the Demo for Stranglehold started the "certification process" on July19th and thedemo didn't come out for almost 3 weeks.
Lol, you expect that Microsoft would allow someone to put something on THEIR marketplace without them approving it? They have to approve EVERYTHING, if a demo had a glitch that could steal your credit card information, and someone just HAPPENED to hack into their 360 and do this, you could make millions.
It's not likely, but MS has to THOROUGHLY test anything going onto the marketplace (other then picture packs or that type of thing) to make sure that there isn't serious bugs that could compromise XBL.
Wow, wooooooooooow.
Big_Red_Button
MS 'certification process' =/= cost money, there had been stuff on live for free, and there had been stuff on the PSN that cost money. MS isn't publishing UT3, so don't have any call on the price.
1) I never said it had an effect on the PRICE, but I was quoting someone who said that MS had nothing at all to do with the content released.
2) The new maps for Gears of War were supposed to be free, but then MS stepped in and "polightly suggested" to Epic that people should pay for them.
Don't believe me? I've got a link.
http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/microsoftrejectsfreegearofwarmaps.shtml
I've got another few too, in case you say "omgz no credible sorse!11"
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2007/04/10/microsoft_says_no_to_free_xbox_live_content.html
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/04/09/microsoft-and-epic-disagree-over-gears-of-war-content-and-the-argument-is-now-pubilc
http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/04/09/microsoft-wont-let-new-gow-maps-be-free/
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17516&view=previous&sid=ceb00b0163ff621ac2351291f5bf5867
If they did it to Epic for Gears, why the hell not for UT3?
Mmmk pumpkin?
Because Microsoft PUBLISHED Gears of War.
[QUOTE="OldParr"][QUOTE="toni_xhoni"][QUOTE="OldParr"][QUOTE="toni_xhoni"]Well this is a big deal, especially for xbox 360's future.
toni_xhoni
the 360 has AAA titles without the need of a new format.i dont see ur point and i wouldnt be surprise that this guy mark rein make some comments when the version of UT for the 360 comes out.he is just that kind of guy that is nice to something when one of its products is coming out for certain system.he is full of it
Well imagine if 360s AAA titles used bigger format discs (more space), they would have been so much better, with so many extras!
who said that extras means better
The more the merrior (or however its spelled :? )
just b/c there is more space to use does not mean devs will use it...using more space = longer dev time... by the way i like how u ignored the statement the devs of PGR4 made when they said they never consider CD space when making games... games....1) I never said it had an effect on the PRICE, but I was quoting someone who said that MS had nothing at all to do with the content released.
Big_Red_Button
No you werent because i never stated MS had nothing to do with content released on XBLM, i said MS have no say on whether future UT3 maps would be charged for or not, because THEY DONT PUBLISH UT3 (i really wish they allowed HTML marquee's and flashing text maybe then this guy would actually get it).
Seriously i think i am gonna have to start typing in baby english for you, your reading comprehension is useless.....
If they did it to Epic for Gears, why the hell not for UT3?Mmmk pumpkin?
Big_Red_Button
I'm not talking about Gears, because the publisher of Gears starts with Micro and ends in soft, so they had a call in the price. The Big M doesn't have any call in UT 3.
Epic got lazy? That's what you come up with? What a joke. Epic got lazy and made too much content for 360's disc.... right. They made the game to fit on a PC DVD install (smaller than off disc) and streamed off a Blu-ray disc. 360 just has limited space and magic compression isn't going to fix it.Nah its simple.
Epic got lazy because Blu Ray affords them more room.
So of course there going to be lazy about compression.
It has more to do with the space of BluRay then the lack of space on DVD 9.
In other wordsif there were no BR then Epic would just need to compress.
-Ninja_Dog-
And do you think those 5 extra single player levels in GeOW PC were made just for it? Most certainly were cut because the nice texture streaming that makes the game look so good takes up huge amounts of space.
I say when and if it happens then the cows can claim ownage.
But as it stands now. Its only a maybe.
So I want every cow here to promise not to mention this again until it is a fact.
Because at this point it is far from fact and only speculation.If this continues some of the less then knowledable cows will take this as fact. When it clearly is not.
Can we agree on this ?
-Ninja_Dog-
Again for the reasonable
[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]Anything going onto the Marketplace has to be approved by MS.Why do you think the Demo for Stranglehold started the "certification process" on July19th and thedemo didn't come out for almost 3 weeks.
Lol, you expect that Microsoft would allow someone to put something on THEIR marketplace without them approving it? They have to approve EVERYTHING, if a demo had a glitch that could steal your credit card information, and someone just HAPPENED to hack into their 360 and do this, you could make millions.
It's not likely, but MS has to THOROUGHLY test anything going onto the marketplace (other then picture packs or that type of thing) to make sure that there isn't serious bugs that could compromise XBL.
Wow, wooooooooooow.
LTomlinson21
MS 'certification process' =/= cost money, there had been stuff on live for free, and there had been stuff on the PSN that cost money. MS isn't publishing UT3, so don't have any call on the price.
1) I never said it had an effect on the PRICE, but I was quoting someone who said that MS had nothing at all to do with the content released.
2) The new maps for Gears of War were supposed to be free, but then MS stepped in and "polightly suggested" to Epic that people should pay for them.
Don't believe me? I've got a link.
http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/microsoftrejectsfreegearofwarmaps.shtml
I've got another few too, in case you say "omgz no credible sorse!11"
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2007/04/10/microsoft_says_no_to_free_xbox_live_content.html
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/04/09/microsoft-and-epic-disagree-over-gears-of-war-content-and-the-argument-is-now-pubilc
http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/04/09/microsoft-wont-let-new-gow-maps-be-free/
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17516&view=previous&sid=ceb00b0163ff621ac2351291f5bf5867
If they did it to Epic for Gears, why the hell not for UT3?
Mmmk pumpkin?
Because Microsoft PUBLISHED Gears of War.
*thinks very hard at how to argue after clearly being proven wrong*
Um... Uh...
Hmm...
*Gets an idea*
Me sorry! Big Red Button no speaka de English!
Ok, you win.
[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]Epic got lazy? That's what you come up with? What a joke. Epic got lazy and made too much content for 360's disc.... right. They made the game to fit on a PC DVD install (smaller than off disc) and streamed off a Blu-ray disc. 360 just has limited space and magic compression isn't going to fix it.Nah its simple.
Epic got lazy because Blu Ray affords them more room.
So of course there going to be lazy about compression.
It has more to do with the space of BluRay then the lack of space on DVD 9.
In other wordsif there were no BR then Epic would just need to compress.
Lazy_Boy88
And do you think those 5 extra single player levels in GeOW PC were made just for it? Most certainly were cut because the nice texture streaming that makes the game look so good takes up huge amounts of space.
Maybe at the time of the statement.
But I'm sure they will work it out.
I think its more of a ploy to get more PS3 bought because we all know Sony's sell numbers suck.
I think its just a ploy.
[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]Epic got lazy? That's what you come up with? What a joke. Epic got lazy and made too much content for 360's disc.... right. They made the game to fit on a PC DVD install (smaller than off disc) and streamed off a Blu-ray disc. 360 just has limited space and magic compression isn't going to fix it.Nah its simple.
Epic got lazy because Blu Ray affords them more room.
So of course there going to be lazy about compression.
It has more to do with the space of BluRay then the lack of space on DVD 9.
In other wordsif there were no BR then Epic would just need to compress.
Lazy_Boy88
And do you think those 5 extra single player levels in GeOW PC were made just for it? Most certainly were cut because the nice texture streaming that makes the game look so good takes up huge amounts of space.
so your telling me the devs cut a huge cunk of the game b/c of limited space? they wasted all that time developing it on the 360 b/c they had no idea they were not going to be able to fit it? hmm ok....:roll:I say when and if it happens then the cows can claim ownage.
But as it stands now. Its only a maybe.
So I want every cow here to promise not to mention this again until it is a fact.
Because at this point it is far from fact and only speculation.If this continues some of the less then knowledable cows will take this as fact. When it clearly is not.
Can we agree on this ?
-Ninja_Dog-
althought this would be the logical thing to do, logic doesn't really flow like water here. There will always be people who will bring this up before anything is confirmed. But there fanboys, so there is not much you can do. Just ignore it and wait to see what happenes
[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]I say when and if it happens then the cows can claim ownage.
But as it stands now. Its only a maybe.
So I want every cow here to promise not to mention this again until it is a fact.
Because at this point it is far from fact and only speculation.If this continues some of the less then knowledable cows will take this as fact. When it clearly is not.
Can we agree on this ?
Broman6015
althought this would be the logical thing to do, logic doesn't really flow like water here. There will always be people who will bring this up before anything is confirmed. But there fanboys, so there is not much you can do. Just ignore it and wait to see what happenes
Yeah. You're right.
Enjoy the speculation cows !
God knows you need something to feel good about.
[QUOTE="Klash47"]epic is really showing sony some love. they might eventually jump ship for good. because it seems like they've got the ps3 hardware all figuered out. more maps and mods and k/m support for the ps3 version FTW-Ninja_Dog-
Have fun with your inferior console version !
PC FTW !
...
[QUOTE="Broman6015"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]I say when and if it happens then the cows can claim ownage.
But as it stands now. Its only a maybe.
So I want every cow here to promise not to mention this again until it is a fact.
Because at this point it is far from fact and only speculation.If this continues some of the less then knowledable cows will take this as fact. When it clearly is not.
Can we agree on this ?
-Ninja_Dog-
althought this would be the logical thing to do, logic doesn't really flow like water here. There will always be people who will bring this up before anything is confirmed. But there fanboys, so there is not much you can do. Just ignore it and wait to see what happenes
Yeah. You're right.
Enjoy the speculation cows !
God knows you need something to feel good about.
[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]so you will just have to download the extra maps from live so i guess blueray isnt neededFinale-
What an amazing excuse. :lol:
how is that an excuse, you can still get the extra maps so why do you need blueray?
[QUOTE="Finale-"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]so you will just have to download the extra maps from live so i guess blueray isnt neededParadiddleFill
What an amazing excuse. :lol:
how is that an excuse, you can still get the extra maps so why do you need blueray?
Microsoft is goin to make you guys pay for it..lol..
Honestly, this isn't even the biggest problem for the 360 version. Without KB+M support, 360 owners are going to get steamrolled by their PS3 or PC counter parts. UT was not made with gamepads in mind. It's a twitch shooter and precision counts, and you can only get that with KB+M.Finale-
uh there is not cross platform when it come to the 360 version, so no u fail
Answer this truthfully people.
Is this fact ?
And do you understand the meaning of the word "might" ?
If you answered:
No
Yes.
Then you know there is no ownage.
You can't spin it any other way people.
Honestly, this isn't even the biggest problem for the 360 version. Without KB+M support, 360 owners are going to get steamrolled by their PS3 or PC counter parts. UT was not made with gamepads in mind. It's a twitch shooter and precision counts, and you can only get that with KB+M.Finale-
I never understood this. I play just fine with a controller as I do with a keyboard and mouse. I just up the sensitivity. Also, I play with a weird way of holding the 360 controller (I call it the gaming claw; use right middle finger for the trigger while my index presses face buttons, leaving my thumb fully free to use the right stick.
Keyboard and mouse aren't better or worse than the 360 controller. Just different, though people assume K+B are better due to how long PC's and FPS games go back. But really, it has and will always be determined by the player.;)
its funny that you cows are saying oh the unreal for the ps3 is going to have this and that and the 360 version isnt, when nobody even knows anything about the 360's version of unrealParadiddleFill
Its hysteria I think.
They have nothing else to be proud of or excited about so they jump on speculation.
Its quite sad actually.
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