XBOX 360 Unreal Tournament 3 to have less MAPS???

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#151 G10mgs4
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[QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

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LEMMINGS YOU BETTER NOT TRY TO SPIN THIS!!!!!!!!1

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haha how is this self owned

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#152 bboycookie2
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it doesnt matter UT3 has always been PC it would feel wrong to play i ton a console.its like playing halo on pc feels weird
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#153 toni_xhoni
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it doesnt matter UT3 has always been PC it would feel wrong to play i ton a console.its like playing halo on pc feels weirdbboycookie2

Well you can still play it with a mouse and keyboard on the ps3 ;)

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#154 Pro_wrestler
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I feel no ownage, I have a PC capable of runing it(And we both know it will be best on there). LOL LMAO! Ownage dodging FTW! :P Losers.
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#155 Marka1700
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If you want to argue amount of Map, PC wins. Infact why would you buy a game like UT for any system other than PC. PC will have insane amount of extra content just like every other UT.

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#156 toni_xhoni
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I feel no ownage, I have a PC capable of runing it(And we both know it will be best on there). LOL LMAO! Ownage dodging FTW! :P Losers.Pro_wrestler

Wow, pc to the rescue!!! :roll:

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#157 toni_xhoni
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If you want to argue amount of Map, PC wins. Infact why would you buy a game like UT for any system other than PC. PC will have insane amount of extra content just like every other UT.

Marka1700

What im saying is the ps3 version of UT3 will be superior to the 360 version, leave pc out of this.

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#158 a_ratchet_fan
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]its funny that you cows are saying oh the unreal for the ps3 is going to have this and that and the 360 version isnt, when nobody even knows anything about the 360's version of unreal-Ninja_Dog-

Its hysteria I think.

They have nothing else to be proud of or excited about so they jump on speculation.

Its quite sad actually.




Let me give you a little reality check:  Lemmings are no better.


"MGS4 is coming to teh 360 too, so there!"

Based on what facts?

"Ninja Gaiden 2 is a 360 exclusive!  Have fun with your Xbox port."

Again, based on what?



At least this is based on what a developer actually said, not what some greg_splicer esque SWer speculated (also known as pulling it out of their ass)
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#159 DeltoidRecon
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Nah its simple.

Epic got lazy because Blu Ray affords them more room.

So of course there going to be lazy about compression.

It has more to do with the space of BluRay then the lack of space on DVD 9.

In other wordsif there were no BR then Epic would just need to compress.

-Ninja_Dog-

Obviously you aren't a TRUE/REAL Unreal player due to the fact that if you played online on any Unreal game (especially 2004) then you'd know that 10 maps can equal up to 10 gigs of temporary space used. So every Unreal gamer (360 fan or not) knew that 360 wasn't gonna have a buffet like package when it came to content. So no matter how many ways you wanna slice it, Microsoft fudged up. They didn't add a HD disc drive and don't allow the development of FREE USER GENERATED CONTENT for some odd reason (I say MS is M$ and they luv tah monay)..

I feel bad for anyone who gets suckered into buying Unreal 2k7 (Hey I call it 2k7 not that 3 bs) for the 360, since you aren't getting the true Unreal experience. Honestly any Unreal vets please tell me the last time you've played a map that wasn't custom made and if you have please give me a ratio of the maps that was part of the game compared to custom maps.

Now I'm sure UT3 is gonna be great for 360 fans since it'll top every other online game in the maps category, but in the end you'll be on these forums looking at pics and reading threads from both PC/PS3 forums talking about mods made for each side.. I'll be on the PC side and enjoying COD4 on 360 instead ;)

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#160 Marka1700
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"]

If you want to argue amount of Map, PC wins. Infact why would you buy a game like UT for any system other than PC. PC will have insane amount of extra content just like every other UT.

toni_xhoni

What im saying is the ps3 version of UT3 will be superior to the 360 version, leave pc out of this.

And Im sayin that the PC version will be overall superior. This is system wars, not console wars.

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#161 Stall0wn3d
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this is ownage, i dont even wanna bother reaeding the pages and pages of damage control
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#162 toni_xhoni
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[QUOTE="toni_xhoni"][QUOTE="Marka1700"]

If you want to argue amount of Map, PC wins. Infact why would you buy a game like UT for any system other than PC. PC will have insane amount of extra content just like every other UT.

Marka1700

What im saying is the ps3 version of UT3 will be superior to the 360 version, leave pc out of this.

And Im sayin that the PC version will be overall superior. This is system wars, not console wars.

OMG forget about the PC version for a minute, and look at the ps3 and 360 version!

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#163 Primevil702
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[QUOTE="Primevil702"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="toni_xhoni"][QUOTE="OldParr"][QUOTE="toni_xhoni"]

Well this is a big deal, especially for xbox 360's future.

Big_Red_Button

the 360 has AAA titles without the need of a new format.i dont see ur point and i wouldnt be surprise that this guy mark rein make some comments when the version of UT for the 360 comes out.he is just that kind of guy that is nice to something when one of its products is coming out for certain system.he is full of it

Well imagine if 360s AAA titles used bigger format discs (more space), they would have been so much better, with so many extras!

Yes they will magically become so much better an with more extras. Sure the DVD-9 is showing it age but it is not time to pull out the shotgun yet. With the Next Gen then yea it would be time for the DVD-9 to go the way of Old Yeller.

But it doesn't matter UT3 should be played on the PC, that is where it started and that is where I'll play it on (just have to upgrade my PC)

Where is should be played? What? The PS3 version will be great, yet... for some odd reason, according to you it shouldn't be played on the PS3? Get real..

Mods- Yes, technically they exist on the PS3, but they make you jump through hoops and sell your soul to satan just to get them up for download.

90% of the Unreal modding community just isn't going to bother. You'll be missing out on hundreds, if not thousands of mods.

ENTIRE GAMES. Not just new maps, not just new weapons, ENTIRELY NEW GAMES that PC modders will make, and most of them won't put them up on the PSN (whatever they call it).

PS3 owners are missing out on what REAL MODDING is about- FREEDOM. Not a select few corporate approved mods. The FREEDOM for ANYONE with a good idea to make it, the FREEDOM for ANYONE to share in that idea, to become a community of people with creativity.

That is what the PC version is about. Mods are so much more complicated than you could ever understand if you've never experienced their full glory.

*tear comes out of eye*

One thing - The PS3 mod support is not limited to "Corporate" approved mods. As far as anyone knows it'll be an open system... one thing however I'm looking forward to seeing is if they went the extra mile in terms of mod/map distribution. For example havin a way to distribute Maps to users via ingame lobbies, obviously only practical on smaller mods.

Obviously there's going to be restrictions with PS3 mods in technical terms. And there's a whole slew of unanswered questions - Will PS3 mods support new textures? New sounds? I could understand them sticking with stock resources due to Epic content being optimized for the PS3. For all we know the Mods on PS3 could be just new maps with original stock assets, which I would understand.. and would be fine to me. We'll see however, I've definitely got a whole list of questions concerning PS3 mods considering I'm buying both the PC and PS3 version - with the PC version there mainly for the Unreal Editor.

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#164 PS3_3DO
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Better than having each map take minutes to load. :lol:

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#165 mentzer
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[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"][QUOTE="Primevil702"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="toni_xhoni"][QUOTE="OldParr"][QUOTE="toni_xhoni"]

Well this is a big deal, especially for xbox 360's future.

Primevil702

the 360 has AAA titles without the need of a new format.i dont see ur point and i wouldnt be surprise that this guy mark rein make some comments when the version of UT for the 360 comes out.he is just that kind of guy that is nice to something when one of its products is coming out for certain system.he is full of it

Well imagine if 360s AAA titles used bigger format discs (more space), they would have been so much better, with so many extras!

Yes they will magically become so much better an with more extras. Sure the DVD-9 is showing it age but it is not time to pull out the shotgun yet. With the Next Gen then yea it would be time for the DVD-9 to go the way of Old Yeller.

But it doesn't matter UT3 should be played on the PC, that is where it started and that is where I'll play it on (just have to upgrade my PC)

Where is should be played? What? The PS3 version will be great, yet... for some odd reason, according to you it shouldn't be played on the PS3? Get real..

Mods- Yes, technically they exist on the PS3, but they make you jump through hoops and sell your soul to satan just to get them up for download.

90% of the Unreal modding community just isn't going to bother. You'll be missing out on hundreds, if not thousands of mods.

ENTIRE GAMES. Not just new maps, not just new weapons, ENTIRELY NEW GAMES that PC modders will make, and most of them won't put them up on the PSN (whatever they call it).

PS3 owners are missing out on what REAL MODDING is about- FREEDOM. Not a select few corporate approved mods. The FREEDOM for ANYONE with a good idea to make it, the FREEDOM for ANYONE to share in that idea, to become a community of people with creativity.

That is what the PC version is about. Mods are so much more complicated than you could ever understand if you've never experienced their full glory.

*tear comes out of eye*

One thing - The PS3 mod support is not limited to "Corporate" approved mods. As far as anyone knows it'll be an open system... one thing however I'm looking forward to seeing is if they went the extra mile in terms of mod/map distribution. For example havin a way to distribute Maps to users via ingame lobbies, obviously only practical on smaller mods.

Obviously there's going to be restrictions with PS3 mods in technical terms. And there's a whole slew of unanswered questions - Will PS3 mods support new textures? New sounds? I could understand them sticking with stock resources due to Epic content being optimized for the PS3. For all we know the Mods on PS3 could be just new maps with original stock assets, which I would understand.. and would be fine to me. We'll see however, I've definitely got a whole list of questions concerning PS3 mods considering I'm buying both the PC and PS3 version - with the PC version there mainly for the Unreal Editor.

The mods for PS3 are possible because of the open nature of PSN as stated by Mark Rein, so what "corporate" approving do they need??

The prior poster has no clue what they are typing.

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#166 Velocitas8
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I find this difficult to believe. Maps made with UnrealED don't take up much space, especially when textures and static meshes are recycled as is often the case with most games.

New static meshes are also extremely tiny..so that isn't an issue either. Textures are generally what take up the most space and they're required resources for maps, of course..but again textures are easily recyclable..so if space became an issue that could be done.

Not to mention there's tons of solutions to solve this problem, mainly compressing map data on the disc and extracting it onto the hard drive as needed. So this article is meaningless..

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#167 Stall0wn3d
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damage damage, dama, damadama, damdamdamage, damage control.

Velocitas8
im sure you read the article, and comprehend what he said, im sure they have or are trying to solve the problems, but some things you just cant get around and you have to make some sacrifices. i dont think he is saying its gonna happen but that it is a real possibility. and this isnt the first time people have run into limitations.
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#168 sakura_Ex
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Who buys UT on a console, cows with out a PC thats who

and you can simply download the maps on the 360, but you guys wouldnt know much about downloading anyways....

Tom_Brady860

It has begun,Lol.

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#169 Velocitas8
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im sure you read the article, and comprehend what he said, im sure they have or are trying to solve the problems, but some things you just cant get around and you have to make some sacrifices. i dont think he is saying its gonna happen but that it is a real possibility. and this isnt the first time people have run into limitations.Stall0wn3d

LOL damage control?

I'm a hermit, genius. I'm a long time Unreal fan and I'm buying the PC version and the PC version ONLY.

My post implied sacrifices being made too, like recycling textures and static meshes from other maps. Read next time.

Oh, and editing other people's posts because you can't come up with anything to counter what I've said is idiotic and childish. Then again this is System Wars..

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#170 AgentVX
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LOL, Sony fanboys getting owned on UT.

Please, I will buy the PC version, that is and will be the best version. Why buy a PS3 when you can get better versions on the PC.

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#171 XenogearsMaster
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LOL, Sony fanboys getting owned on UT.

Please, I will buy the PC version, that is and will be the best version. Why buy a PS3 when you can get better versions on the PC.

AgentVX

You need to upgrade.

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#172 sakura_Ex
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[QUOTE="mazdaspeed-rx8"]

all i have to say is

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Know whats worse than a fanboy who blindly hates a machine and would rather die before having one ...

Someone who buys a machine just so he can bash it on the internet and not be called a liar .........

So very sad .....

You know what's even more sad?...... the fact that you let his joke get to you.

It looks like he pulled your strings like the puppet that you are.

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#173 Gangans
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They could release the game on multiple dvds, and you could install the game on your xbox360 harddrive, then play it. :lol: Enjoy your gimped pc lems. :lol:
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#174 sakura_Ex
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[QUOTE="Broman6015"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

I say when and if it happens then the cows can claim ownage.

But as it stands now. Its only a maybe.

So I want every cow here to promise not to mention this again until it is a fact.

Because at this point it is far from fact and only speculation.If this continues some of the less then knowledable cows will take this as fact. When it clearly is not.

Can we agree on this ?

-Ninja_Dog-

althought this would be the logical thing to do, logic doesn't really flow like water here. There will always be people who will bring this up before anything is confirmed. But there fanboys, so there is not much you can do. Just ignore it and wait to see what happenes

Yeah. You're right.

Enjoy the speculation cows !

God knows you need something to feel good about.

You agreed with him but yet you made yourself look like a fanboy,nice one....

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#175 k-diddy66
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dont worry they will release that te ps3 has somethingg inferior to the ps3 version:(
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#176 imprezawrx500
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Nah its simple.

Epic got lazy because Blu Ray affords them more room.

So of course there going to be lazy about compression.

It has more to do with the space of BluRay then the lack of space on DVD 9.

In other wordsif there were no BR then Epic would just need to compress.

-Ninja_Dog-
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#177 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="Klash47"]epic is really showing sony some love. they might eventually jump ship for good. because it seems like they've got the ps3 hardware all figuered out. more maps and mods and k/m support for the ps3 version FTW-Ninja_Dog-

Have fun with your inferior console version !

PC FTW !

...

KB+M support, Mods? There is nothing inferior about the PS3 version sorry.

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#178 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="AgentVX"]

LOL, Sony fanboys getting owned on UT.

Please, I will buy the PC version, that is and will be the best version. Why buy a PS3 when you can get better versions on the PC.

XenogearsMaster

You need to upgrade.

There is nothing better about the PC version are you just a lame hermit are a lemming hiding behind the pc? The pc version has no advantages over the PS3 version. Yes im sure if you have a higher end rig you can run it at higher res or better framerates( but you will be paying a hell of alot more then a PS3) and the PS3 version already looks OUTSTANDING. The videos shown at E3 looked as good as anything they have shown on the PC. The only other advantage the pc would have is KB+M support and mods and the PS3 version gets both of those as well.

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#179 no_submission
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So all of a sudden all lems have top-of-the-line PC's?

Can I see your 3D Mark 06 scores?

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#180 Meu2k7
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didnt epic make m$ spent one billion for a 512mb to get gears graphics.damn im begining to hate that company especially that mark reinOldParr

If epic didnt do that, then 360 would of died along time ago ... crap CPU , crap GPU , then crap RAM? insult to injury.

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#181 SiiSsy
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I can't believe I read this whole thing....page after page of BS....the people who actually new what was going on just stopped talking and logic fell silent before a tidal wave of ignorance....:|

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#182 ragrdoll21
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LOL, Sony fanboys getting owned on UT.

Please, I will buy the PC version, that is and will be the best version. Why buy a PS3 when you can get better versions on the PC.

AgentVX
Coming from a 360 owner?!:roll:
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#183 Supafly1
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epic is really showing sony some love. they might eventually jump ship for good. because it seems like they've got the ps3 hardware all figuered out. more maps and mods and k/m support for the ps3 version FTWKlash47

As long as Epic games stay on PC, they will also come out on X-box 360.

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#184 mlaky
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well the PC version is also going to be on a DVD9, so what's the problem?they should compress and make it a hard drive required game(for the 360 that is)
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#185 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="OldParr"]didnt epic make m$ spent one billion for a 512mb to get gears graphics.damn im begining to hate that company especially that mark reinMeu2k7

If epic didnt do that, then 360 would of died along time ago ... crap CPU , crap GPU , then crap RAM? insult to injury.

The 360 doesnt have crap anything from a power standpoint. There is certanley pc hardware capable of outpeforming it and it is clearly not the most powerful console but its not crap hardware especially for doing what its doing a year and a half after its release.

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#186 Polaris_choice
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well the PC version is also going to be on a DVD9, so what's the problem?they should compress and make it a hard drive required game(for the 360 that is)mlaky

Because every gaming pc has a hardrive and one that can store over 20 gigs also. What should Epic do make a game that only people with only the 120gb HDD on there 360can play.

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#187 hongkingkong
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Who cares? UT3 PC FTW!!!!
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#188 ragrdoll21
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well the PC version is also going to be on a DVD9, so what's the problem?they should compress and make it a hard drive required game(for the 360 that is)mlaky
Ouch.....Core owners will cry!
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#189 AgentVX
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[QUOTE="AgentVX"]

LOL, Sony fanboys getting owned on UT.

Please, I will buy the PC version, that is and will be the best version. Why buy a PS3 when you can get better versions on the PC.

ragrdoll21

Coming from a 360 owner?!:roll:

LOL........no, I'm typing this right now on my 360 controllerbecause I don't have a computer to do that.:roll:

Just face it Cows, PC version is and will be better. Please let it go, "NO" you will not have the best version. BluRay all you want, it still will be trailing the PC version............8)

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#190 froidnite
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I just love the way SW works.

When lemmings are bragging about Bioshock, cows claim they have a PC powerful enough to play Bioshock and lemmings claim it isn't true.

When cows are bragging about UT3, lemmings claim they have a PC powerful enough to play UT3 and cows claim it isn't true.

When Hermits brag about Bioshock AND UT3, lemmings and cows unite to say PC isn't even a gaming platform and only *insert very small number* % of people in SW have PC powerful enough to play those games.

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#191 SiiSsy
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="AgentVX"]

LOL, Sony fanboys getting owned on UT.

Please, I will buy the PC version, that is and will be the best version. Why buy a PS3 when you can get better versions on the PC.

AgentVX

Coming from a 360 owner?!:roll:

LOL........no, I'm typing this right now on my 360 controllerbecause I don't have a computer to do that.:roll:

Just face it Cows, PC version is and will be better. Please let it go, "NO" you will not have the best version. BluRay all you want, it still will be trailing the PC version............8)

I think you got that backwards

7.1 audio top of the line audio fidelity with 150 dollar fiber optical hookups?a 52 inch 1080p resoluting death star i call my tv? I think you are sadly misinformed over whom is having the better time gaming. Hunched over like a crab glaring at tiny screen is silly....

but seriously i only got like a 32 inch normal tv with broken color and cheap speakers but hey it sunded good right? lol

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#192 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="AgentVX"]

LOL, Sony fanboys getting owned on UT.

Please, I will buy the PC version, that is and will be the best version. Why buy a PS3 when you can get better versions on the PC.

AgentVX

Coming from a 360 owner?!:roll:

LOL........no, I'm typing this right now on my 360 controllerbecause I don't have a computer to do that.:roll:

Just face it Cows, PC version is and will be better. Please let it go, "NO" you will not have the best version. BluRay all you want, it still will be trailing the PC version............8)

What the hell?Why do you have a Gaming PC and a 360?So you're saying that the PC version will destroy the 360 version then right?No mods,less maps,May need Hdd plus live? that sucks RIGHT?
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#193 ragrdoll21
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I just love the way SW works.

When lemmings are bragging about Bioshock, cows claim they have a PC powerful enough to play Bioshock and lemmings claim it isn't true.

When cows are bragging about UT3, lemmings claim they have a PC powerful enough to play UT3 and cows claim it isn't true.

When Hermits brag about Bioshock AND UT3, lemmings and cows unite to say PC isn't even a gaming platform and only *insert very small number* % of people in SW have PC powerful enough to play those games.

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#194 froidnite
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[QUOTE="froidnite"]

I just love the way SW works.

When lemmings are bragging about Bioshock, cows claim they have a PC powerful enough to play Bioshock and lemmings claim it isn't true.

When cows are bragging about UT3, lemmings claim they have a PC powerful enough to play UT3 and cows claim it isn't true.

When Hermits brag about Bioshock AND UT3, lemmings and cows unite to say PC isn't even a gaming platform and only *insert very small number* % of people in SW have PC powerful enough to play those games.

ragrdoll21

Don't you just love it?! ?

I love it so much that I can't live without it;)

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#195 AgentVX
Member since 2006 • 1160 Posts
[QUOTE="AgentVX"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="AgentVX"]

LOL, Sony fanboys getting owned on UT.

Please, I will buy the PC version, that is and will be the best version. Why buy a PS3 when you can get better versions on the PC.

SiiSsy

Coming from a 360 owner?!:roll:

LOL........no, I'm typing this right now on my 360 controllerbecause I don't have a computer to do that.:roll:

Just face it Cows, PC version is and will be better. Please let it go, "NO" you will not have the best version. BluRay all you want, it still will be trailing the PC version............8)

I think you got that backwards

7.1 audio top of the line audio fidelity with 150 dollar fiber optical hookups?a 52 inch 1080p resoluting death star i call my tv? I think you are sadly misinformed over whom is having the better time gaming. Hunched over like a crab glaring at tiny screen is silly....

but seriously i only got like a 32 inch normal tv with broken color and cheap speakers but hey it sunded good right? lol

Well, sorry about your broken 32' TV and shotty speakers. Unlike you, I do have a high end reciever, high end speakers, and a 60' 720p/1080iDLP. Couldn't care less, UT on my 24' Widescreen with 5.1 Klipsche speakers will outperform the PS3/360 version of UT, plain and simple.

They are having problems with the console version of the game because it can't run UT as fast as the PC. Mind you, I will have to get a new graphics card, as my X850 XT just won't due. But this was something that I was gonna upgrade soon enough, even before they release the game.

And you know why, because I can. PC version will be better, that's plain and simple.

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#196 VACASCULIADAS
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Gamefest 2007: Microsoft Approves PC-to-360 Map Editors

Someone should tell Epic Games.

By Patrick Klepek, 08/14/2007
One of the reasons Unreal Tournament 3 isn't showing up on Xbox 360 this Fall is Microsoft's approach to user generated content. At E3, Microsoft Game Studios head Shane Kim told 1UP that Microsoft wants complete control over what's transferred through Xbox Live, thus preventing Epic Games from allowing PC-created mods (a step further than just levels, as these could be completely new modes or even games) to appear in Unreal Tournament 3. Sony has no such restriction, thus helping its appearance on PlayStation 3.

At Gamefest 2007, however, Microsoft's official line was less clear. To deliver user generated content, developers can take advantage of what's called Xbox Live Silver Platform (XLSP), where the data transferred runs through the publisher's servers, not Microsoft's. Publishers then become responsible for what runs through it, monitoring and policing offensive content, etc. Taking advantage of it, however, requires Microsoft approval.

During a Q&A session on the topic, someone asked Microsoft Software Design Engineer Zsolt Mathe whether this meant a developer could then construct a level editor for use on a PC but created levels playable that were then playable on Xbox 360. "Even though nobody has done that, I would highly recommend that," said Mathe.

During the Gamefest panel, Microsoft was very specific about how publishers would have to keep a keen eye on the content, as it doesn't explicitly pass by Microsoft's eyes. Of course, as we mentioned, taking advantage of XLSP requires Microsoft's approval -- maybe that's the hold up for Epic, considering what Shane Kim told us in May about Microsoft's desire to keep a firm grip on content being exchanged on Xbox Live:

"We have just as much interest in that space as anybody else, but I will tell you that there is a lot of value to managing the service and system the way we do on Xbox Live, versus the wild, open, supposedly open PlayStation Network. You're going to have to be very careful about what happens and we'll see how much responsibility the platform holder actually takes there in terms of managing that stuff.

It's not unlike Sony PlayStation HOME. It's great to talk about all this, but assuming you could even build it, one of the biggest challenges is actually managing the behavior. We have a lot of experience doing this on Xbox Live and that's part of the value proposition we bring to our customers, is that you're going to have a great experience on Xbox Live and we take care of a lot of problems for you and don't just say it's the responsibility of the publisher of the responsibility of the community to manage this. We take accountability, we do that as the owner."

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161957
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#197 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="SiiSsy"][QUOTE="AgentVX"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="AgentVX"]

LOL, Sony fanboys getting owned on UT.

Please, I will buy the PC version, that is and will be the best version. Why buy a PS3 when you can get better versions on the PC.

AgentVX

Coming from a 360 owner?!:roll:

LOL........no, I'm typing this right now on my 360 controllerbecause I don't have a computer to do that.:roll:

Just face it Cows, PC version is and will be better. Please let it go, "NO" you will not have the best version. BluRay all you want, it still will be trailing the PC version............8)

I think you got that backwards

7.1 audio top of the line audio fidelity with 150 dollar fiber optical hookups?a 52 inch 1080p resoluting death star i call my tv? I think you are sadly misinformed over whom is having the better time gaming. Hunched over like a crab glaring at tiny screen is silly....

but seriously i only got like a 32 inch normal tv with broken color and cheap speakers but hey it sunded good right? lol

Well, sorry about your broken 32' TV and shotty speakers. Unlike you, I do have a high end reciever, high end speakers, and a 60' 720p/1080iDLP. Couldn't care less, UT on my 24' Widescreen with 5.1 Klipsche speakers will outperform the PS3/360 version of UT, plain and simple.

They are having problems with the console version of the game because it can't run UT as fast as the PC. Mind you, I will have to get a new graphics card, as my X850 XT just won't due. But this was something that I was gonna upgrade soon enough, even before they release the game.

And you know why, because I can. PC version will be better, that's plain and simple.

Im sorry yet you are another misinformed Hermit that simply doesnt have a clue. The fact is the PS3 looked as good as any pc clip they showned and it was even running at a smooth framerate. Add in KB+M support and mods and the pc has no advantages. As ive said you may get higher res and better framerates but why does that matter when the PS3 version basically looks like a high end rig for about half the price. And yes I haved a 40inch 1080P LCD TV with a contrast ratio that brings most monitors to shame. Im sorry but as of now the pc version really has nothing on the PS3 version.

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#198 VACASCULIADAS
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[QUOTE="AgentVX"][QUOTE="SiiSsy"][QUOTE="AgentVX"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="AgentVX"]

LOL, Sony fanboys getting owned on UT.

Please, I will buy the PC version, that is and will be the best version. Why buy a PS3 when you can get better versions on the PC.

Polaris_choice

Coming from a 360 owner?!:roll:

LOL........no, I'm typing this right now on my 360 controllerbecause I don't have a computer to do that.:roll:

Just face it Cows, PC version is and will be better. Please let it go, "NO" you will not have the best version. BluRay all you want, it still will be trailing the PC version............8)

I think you got that backwards

7.1 audio top of the line audio fidelity with 150 dollar fiber optical hookups?a 52 inch 1080p resoluting death star i call my tv? I think you are sadly misinformed over whom is having the better time gaming. Hunched over like a crab glaring at tiny screen is silly....

but seriously i only got like a 32 inch normal tv with broken color and cheap speakers but hey it sunded good right? lol

Well, sorry about your broken 32' TV and shotty speakers. Unlike you, I do have a high end reciever, high end speakers, and a 60' 720p/1080iDLP. Couldn't care less, UT on my 24' Widescreen with 5.1 Klipsche speakers will outperform the PS3/360 version of UT, plain and simple.

They are having problems with the console version of the game because it can't run UT as fast as the PC. Mind you, I will have to get a new graphics card, as my X850 XT just won't due. But this was something that I was gonna upgrade soon enough, even before they release the game.

And you know why, because I can. PC version will be better, that's plain and simple.

Im sorry yet you are another misinformed Hermit that simply doesnt have a clue. The fact is the PS3 looked as good as any pc clip they showned and it was even running at a smooth framerate. Add in KB+M support and mods and the pc has no advantages. As ive said you may get higher res and better framerates but why does that matter when the PS3 version basically looks like a high end rig for about half the price. And yes I haved a 40inch 1080P LCD TV with a contrast ratio that brings most monitors to shame. Im sorry but as of now the pc version really has nothing on the PS3 version.



MM keep dreaming PC version is superior with DX10 effect the ps3 can't do that, how it looks like the high end pc version?
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#199 froidnite
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Im sorry yet you are another misinformed Hermit that simply doesnt have a clue. The fact is the PS3 looked as good as any pc clip they showned and it was even running at a smooth framerate. Add in KB+M support and mods and the pc has no advantages. As ive said you may get higher res and better framerates but why does that matter when the PS3 version basically looks like a high end rig for about half the price. And yes I haved a 40inch 1080P LCD TV with a contrast ratio that brings most monitors to shame. Im sorry but as of now the pc version really has nothing on the PS3 version.

Polaris_choice

If everyone thought like you, and nobody buys PC version of UT3, there won't be any mods.

And no way will Sony allow just any mod to be played on PS3. Believe me, there will be restrictions.

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#200 solidte
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Oooh....oh well it doesn't decide the fact that the X360 has crap software because of that.