Xbox 720 Announcement Delayed From April To May

The next Xbox was reported to be announced in late April, something that Microsoft insiders had confirmed, along with corroboration by way of the registration of the xboxevent.com domain. Now it seems, however, that they are delaying it to late May, pushing it periliously close to E3.

What do you all make of this?

Who is this Paul guy?

Another Rumor yawn

Who is this Paul guy?

EPaul

Dey scurred

Microsoft needs more time for damage control.

Who knows man?

These guys aren't playing the console release game properly man. 

Can't guess what them crazy cowboys at Microsoft are doing man. 

I just wish they'd hurry up and announce their TNT 2 Pentium 2 powered console man. 

MS is not doomed.

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Who is this Paul guy?

charizard1605

Ok cool he should have some insight into the 720

At this point why not just wait till E3?

At this point why not just wait till E3?

Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

At this point why not just wait till E3?

charizard1605

lol

Though, I think they should do that anyway, even if it is games centric. 

At this point why not just wait till E3?

Animal-Mother

Seems to me like the next xbox is being re-speced.

 

Seems to me like the next xbox is being re-speced.

Zaibach

 

Seems to me like the next xbox is being re-speced.

Zaibach

I could see that happening. 

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

 

Seems to me like the next xbox is being re-speced.

psymon100

I could see that happening. 

Lol you can feel the desperation on M$ side. Poor lems :(kuraimen

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

 

Seems to me like the next xbox is being re-speced.

charizard1605

Look at what a great job Nintendo are doing with their clear playing field. 

Might be 'cheaper' as part of a ten year plan, to delay now and release something competitive than to release something nobody will want to buy when compared to it's competitors. 

But of course, your points are valid. If they've had a plan and production in place, re speccing now is going to be hugely expensive. Not to mention the undoing of all their research in going with the original spec in the first place! Quality testing (if MS is doing it this time around). 

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Lol you can feel the desperation on M$ side. Poor lems :(TheEroica

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Seems to me like the next xbox is being re-speced.

charizard1605

I disagree. I think they are tweaking the specs to make it at least (if not more) powerful than the PS4. I think they would let Sony get a head start if they know they can come out with a more powerful system. I am sure that MS is not short sighted and know all too well that its not how you start the race, but how you finish. Then again, they have been making quite a few mistakes the last couple years.

Well I guess this fits the tweet from the Kaos Studio's guy who said Microsoft was still working on what they were gonna have inside the new Next Box. Pretty sure Microsoft is talking to people from EA and Bethesda right now on what they want.

I bet Sony is still doing tweeks as well.

My guess is Cows will look pretty stupid when Microsoft does have their conference.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

 

Seems to me like the next xbox is being re-speced.

psymon100

Look at what a great job Nintendo are doing with their clear playing field. 

Might be 'cheaper' as part of a ten year plan, to delay now and release something competitive than to release something nobody will want to buy when compared to it's competitors. 

But of course, your points are valid. If they've had a plan and production in place, re speccing now is going to be hugely expensive. Not to mention the undoing of all their research in going with the original spec in the first place! Quality testing (if MS is doing it this time around). 

Precisely, and I wasnt refering to a ground up re-specing from scratch but surely, it is undeniable that there is some reaction to the PS4

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

 

Seems to me like the next xbox is being re-speced.

psymon100

Look at what a great job Nintendo are doing with their clear playing field. 

Might be 'cheaper' as part of a ten year plan, to delay now and release something competitive than to release something nobody will want to buy when compared to it's competitors. 

But of course, your points are valid. If they've had a plan and production in place, re speccing now is going to be hugely expensive. Not to mention the undoing of all their research in going with the original spec in the first place! Quality testing (if MS is doing it this time around). 

M$ is desperately trying to change their specs to make the 720 look good after the megaton that is the PS4 was announced. Face it lems, Kaz owns your souls.

:cool: SDC

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

 

Seems to me like the next xbox is being re-speced.

dogfather76

I disagree. I think they are tweaking the specs to make it at least (if not more) powerful than the PS4. I think they would let Sony get a head start if they know they can come out with a more powerful system. I am sure that MS is not short sighted and know all too well that its not how you start the race, but how you finish. Then again, they have been making quite a few mistakes the last couple years.

Clearly the megaton that was shown by Sony has them scrambling for something to contest. :P

Well I guess this fits the tweet from the Kaos Studio's guy who said Microsoft was still working on what they were gonna have inside the new Next Box. Pretty sure Microsoft is talking to people from EA and Bethesda right now on what they want.

I bet Sony is still doing tweeks as well.

My guess is Cows will look pretty stupid when Microsoft does have their conference.

timbers_WSU

You just said Sony is probably still tweaking as well. How would a M$ conference make cows looks stupid. I will bet you the M$ console will still be inferior. They are probably trying to minimize the gap now.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It's too late to re-spec a games console without a) taking a massive hit as far as finances are concerned, and b) delaying the console's release by at least a year, giving Sony a clear playing field. No, these things are planned well in time. It is possible that maybe Microsoft was taken aback at how high specc'd the PS4 was, but they will not re-spec the next Xbox.charizard1605

Look at what a great job Nintendo are doing with their clear playing field. 

Might be 'cheaper' as part of a ten year plan, to delay now and release something competitive than to release something nobody will want to buy when compared to it's competitors. 

But of course, your points are valid. If they've had a plan and production in place, re speccing now is going to be hugely expensive. Not to mention the undoing of all their research in going with the original spec in the first place! Quality testing (if MS is doing it this time around). 

I don't deny, there are problems with either approach. 

The question is, what will they actually do and why? The other day you talked about Devil's Advocate. 

Well, Something I've thought of before is that a powerful 8th gen console from MS is wasteful. Why? Because MS can very easily fight and win the power front on Games for Windows Live. So if they have put any thought into improving GFWL 8th gen, then that's a good reason not to re spec the nextbox. 

I agree that they need to launch ASAP. Personally, I think the next xbox should already be out. 

Is that becasue they can't get kniect 2.0 to work properly yet?

I don't get why everyone seems to think it means Microsoft is re specking the system. With the current direction they've been heading with the 360 a powerful machine stronger then the competitors on the market doesn't make any sense.  The next xbox could possibly even be a tablet like device based off of certain rumors. As far as rumors and speculation goes the next machine is more ment for media consumption. Games will not be the main focus but apps and services.  If the last few years of the 360 are any hint at the direction they want to go games will not be the main focal point of this machine. So re-specking it because Sony released their specs makes zero sense, with the current rumors and their current direction with their existing xbox brand.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="psymon100"]

Look at what a great job Nintendo are doing with their clear playing field. 

Might be 'cheaper' as part of a ten year plan, to delay now and release something competitive than to release something nobody will want to buy when compared to it's competitors. 

But of course, your points are valid. If they've had a plan and production in place, re speccing now is going to be hugely expensive. Not to mention the undoing of all their research in going with the original spec in the first place! Quality testing (if MS is doing it this time around). 

psymon100

I don't deny, there are problems with either approach. 

The question is, what will they actually do and why? The other day you talked about Devil's Advocate. 

Well, Something I've thought of before is that a powerful 8th gen console from MS is wasteful. Why? Because MS can very easily fight and win the power front on Games for Windows Live. So if they have put any thought into improving GFWL 8th gen, then that's a good reason not to re spec the nextbox. 

I agree that they need to launch ASAP. Personally, I think the next xbox should already be out. 

Oh dear.

Well I guess this fits the tweet from the Kaos Studio's guy who said Microsoft was still working on what they were gonna have inside the new Next Box. Pretty sure Microsoft is talking to people from EA and Bethesda right now on what they want.

I bet Sony is still doing tweeks as well.

My guess is Cows will look pretty stupid when Microsoft does have their conference.

timbers_WSU

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Lol you can feel the desperation on M$ side. Poor lems :(charizard1605

Games FOr Windows LIVE is a bust. It has failed to catch on after three full rebrandings, Microsoft itself has given up on it and has completely embraced Steam. The PC market does not have as much scope for revenue for Microsoft as a fully closed ecosystem like the Xbox does. At the same time, the next Xbox needs to be at least competitive with the PS4. There is absolutely no chance Microsoft will have gimped the Xbox to compete on the power front via a PC storefront. At the same time, they will also not delay the next Xbox just to get into an e-peen measuring contest with Sony. The N64, PS2, and 360 eras all prove excess power means nothing if third parties develop for the lowest common denominator, and they will. The next Xbox will launch this year. It will launch this holiday. It will not be a machine you or I care about that much, no, that machine will be the PS4. However, the next Xbox will still break all manner of sales records.charizard1605

Ha, that's quite an interesting post. 

I don't think they're doing anything right. Now, I'm not saying they'd gimp the box to fight the power front on PC, but, that's got to be the best place to play and win the power front? PC seldom (like, less than 1% of the time) loses the graphics war. For some people, that's a top priority. But I absolutely agree, graphics are not the key to winning the gen. 

Games for Windows Live does not do well, that's right. I think it's main problem is it isn't respected by gamers due to teething issues. Ask an average person around here what they think of new Sim City and you'll probably get a regurgitation of first impressions (though I admit this is a bit of a generalisation). They've got to improve the system first, then get people to try it. How will they try it? It will need a killer app. 

Now I'm not suggesting the next xbox is gimped on purpose in order to use GFWL, no sir. What I'm suggesting is that there is a power contest among gaming systems, and that PC easily wins. What about if next gen MS take a two pronged approach with their exclusives? Revenue scope is so dynamic. What about the effect of people buying a game on PC instead of a higher specced competitor of Next Xbox for teh graffix? Something I've been doing the past couple of years due to slouching console performance. 

I guess what I'm saying is, the PC is an option for fighting the power front instead of a respec, or just flat out losing. 

In all seriousness Charizard this is probably Microsoft's thinking - What's the cheapest decision we can make now which is likely to provide the most earnings over the next 5 to 10 years?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

At this point why not just wait till E3?

charizard1605

I don't get why everyone seems to think it means Microsoft is re specking the system. With the current direction they've been heading with the 360 a powerful machine stronger then the competitors on the market doesn't make any sense.  The next xbox could possibly even be a tablet like device based off of certain rumors. As far as rumors and speculation goes the next machine is more ment for media consumption. Games will not be the main focus but apps and services.  If the last few years of the 360 are any hint at the direction they want to go games will not be the main focal point of this machine. So re-specking it because Sony released their specs makes zero sense, with the current rumors and their current direction with their existing xbox brand.

wazzap76

This makes the most sense. I don't think Microsoft is trying to wins the power battle any more. They are going after casuals. Probably just tinkering the marketing presentation at this point.

I wonder what for? 

Actually, an addendum Charizard. 

Let's imagine that a respec was on the cards for MS. If I was in charge, what I'd do would be to calculate the cost of a respec, including lost sales etc. Then, I would spend all this money on the development of exclusive games for the system.